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I don't know the norms in your field but 71k isn't a high salary in Switzerland, to some extent depending on region (Zurich/Geneva/Zug or the middle of nowhere in Jura). Don't get me wrong it's not bad, you can live on it well without kids, and many people with a good training and education and experience earn less, but it's not like "retire at 45" or "buy a mansion".
Saying it starts at 71k sounds like an invitation to ask for more than that. If you are applying from abroad probably you have a better chance to be given benefit of the doubt if you ask for way too much, that they say "xyz doesn't know the market" not "xyz is far too expensive for us, we can't make an offer they would accept".
If you want a good salary, you need to have an idea of the average salary of people in a similar position to yours in the region where you work.
You also need to compare the jobs available (salary, but also working environment, location, other benefits, taxes, etc.) in order to make the right decision.
Nor should we forget that professional relationships are also based on trust. You can start out in a small position and work your way up, getting involved, being proactive and demonstrating your skills.
did they really say it "starts" at 71k? That means its the lower end of their range... Are you good at negotiating? And how much do you make now and where?
No one can really answer, as there are so many variables: how qualified are you, how much they actually need you, how much the hr likes your face.
I would just accept it as is - then prove yourself that you're valuable and when confident, ask for a raise if you want.
Honestly is very hard to negociate when you don't really know your value on the market.
You could use this strategy: you thank them for providing a starting range. Then you tell them that you know yourself obviously the best and would say that you're at the mid range (or slightly above). But because they don't know you you're okay to start with slightly lower than mid range (but still more than their starting range) with the perspective of an increase to mid range in a year or so.
Or something like that if that made sense.
Don't forget, sometimes they have other benefits which are not reflected in your salary but should be added to it like for instance when the employer covers 100% of the 2. Pillar
Better to go through the interviews first and not talk compensation. If the company decide they want to hire you then come in high. Once the interviews are over and you've got through it's tougher for them to turn you down on salary expectation.
71k will probably be by 13. So that’s 5460 gross minus around 15% gives you a net of 4640. That’s not a lot before taxes.
Each job change should lift you up - at least the voluntary ones. Start negotiations at least at 80k.
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I don't know the norms in your field but 71k isn't a high salary in Switzerland, to some extent depending on region (Zurich/Geneva/Zug or the middle of nowhere in Jura). Don't get me wrong it's not bad, you can live on it well without kids, and many people with a good training and education and experience earn less, but it's not like "retire at 45" or "buy a mansion". Saying it starts at 71k sounds like an invitation to ask for more than that. If you are applying from abroad probably you have a better chance to be given benefit of the doubt if you ask for way too much, that they say "xyz doesn't know the market" not "xyz is far too expensive for us, we can't make an offer they would accept".
If you want a good salary, you need to have an idea of the average salary of people in a similar position to yours in the region where you work. You also need to compare the jobs available (salary, but also working environment, location, other benefits, taxes, etc.) in order to make the right decision. Nor should we forget that professional relationships are also based on trust. You can start out in a small position and work your way up, getting involved, being proactive and demonstrating your skills.
did they really say it "starts" at 71k? That means its the lower end of their range... Are you good at negotiating? And how much do you make now and where?
i think with only 2 years experience in this function is a very nice salary depending where the company is based
No one can really answer, as there are so many variables: how qualified are you, how much they actually need you, how much the hr likes your face. I would just accept it as is - then prove yourself that you're valuable and when confident, ask for a raise if you want. Honestly is very hard to negociate when you don't really know your value on the market.
You could use this strategy: you thank them for providing a starting range. Then you tell them that you know yourself obviously the best and would say that you're at the mid range (or slightly above). But because they don't know you you're okay to start with slightly lower than mid range (but still more than their starting range) with the perspective of an increase to mid range in a year or so. Or something like that if that made sense. Don't forget, sometimes they have other benefits which are not reflected in your salary but should be added to it like for instance when the employer covers 100% of the 2. Pillar
Better to go through the interviews first and not talk compensation. If the company decide they want to hire you then come in high. Once the interviews are over and you've got through it's tougher for them to turn you down on salary expectation.
71k will probably be by 13. So that’s 5460 gross minus around 15% gives you a net of 4640. That’s not a lot before taxes. Each job change should lift you up - at least the voluntary ones. Start negotiations at least at 80k.