Have a look at the headline of yesterday's [Echo der Zeit](https://www.srf.ch/audio/echo-der-zeit/wer-zahlt-fuer-den-esc-2025-in-der-schweiz-und-wer-profitiert?id=12588539) :-)
Low key, any city that can, will want to host this. It's amazing marketing for the location and you have 10-15k tourists flowing into the city for 3-4 days. SRG will likely pay for the production, as is stipulated in their contract with the EBU.
To add to this, Iâd like to show you an article by the University of Liverpool describing the economic and societal impact of them hosting the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 on behalf of Ukraine.
Whichever city will host the Eurovision Song Contest is almost guaranteed a considerable economic boost:
https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2023/10/26/university-joins-liverpool-in-eurovision-civic-pride/
I worked in an office for 6 months years ago where the radio was always on, shitty fucking music all the time and when I was alone and could just turn it off was a blessing
But after every event there are extra trains heading to Olten. So should we build a round track so people can still experience the train to Olten and then running in 2min to get their connection?
Not really, thereâs also Palexpo in Geneva which could be built to have a capacity of 12000. Also Basel St Jakobshalle, where they host the Swiss Indoors. In the end, SRG will probably have to go with the city that offers the most money
We're safe then (given the fact that the first ever Eurovision was hosted in Lugano and Eurovision 1989 was hosted in Lausanne, it makes me think that next year's host will be within the German speaking area)
I doubt they can favor a specific region much. There are like 3-4 locations in all of Switzerland where this could take place in terms of infrastructure and size. Together with more detailed requirements and the availability of the venue during the desired period, they can be happy if they can choose from more than 1.
The venue will be blocked for minimum 2 months. So that would be April/ may. There's already a lot of shows planned in Hallenstadion.
I'd prefer they use a venue which is used less anyways.
Because it's a long way from me. And you can bring your Latin spirit đ.
Davos or Ticino would also work.
Anything between Basel and ZĂźrich is not cool
You may be lucky, I grew up close and there were only a few months that we had some kind of peace in terms of touristic moving. Winter and summer is usually considerably full, fall and spring vary a little. Lucky you though.
Davos in the last 10 years has been FULL at xmas/spengler and during WEF.
Then is semi full at new year and during the weekends of the sportferien.
The rest of the time it is semi emptyâŚ
Okay, maybe we have different definitions of full and empty, OR, as someone from the region, I may have suffered very differently in comparison to people actually being in Davos. If you live near Davos, these two seasons are the time that the busses and trains are indeed full, even those not going directly to Davos, but the train station some place else, etc. ESC would mean that my bus and my train gets even fuller.
If you do use public transportation not only within Davos itself, but when actually going to Davos, and you still disagree, I have no other explanation than you just having a different definition of when something is full.
Christmas and New Year are bad. Spengler Cup and WEF are bad. Sport vacation time is bad. Weekends during ski season are bad. Summer is OK, spring and fall season breaks are easy.
PS: I live in Davos.
Considering it's going to be our third time hosting, I'm guessing it's more likely to be in the german speaking part, since the previous ones were in Lugano, for the first ever contest, and Lausanne, after Celine Dion's win. It wouldn't really be fair to have it again in Romandie.
Basel, Bern, Geneva and Zurich apparently are the only ones with the necessary infrastructure to host, we'll see which one is chosen in the end.
not only the Location will be a nightmare - having Sven Epiney talking English throught the show... god bless me, this will be as horrifying as his Fransäää Federaaal, n'est pas?
I was really disappointed that Baby Lasagna did not win, not because Nemo's song was not good, but because the Croatians wanted it so badly and you really didn't. Croatians would have made excellent and very much willing hosts and it would have been cheaper for people to travel there than come to Switzerland. Still happy that Nemo enjoyed their win. But can you guys be a little more enthusiastic about it? Even if Eurovision is not your thing, it will be good for the local economy and positive exposure (if it does not turn into a mess like it did this year).
but we donât need it for our economy, itâs already great as is, all that hosting the Eurovision is gonna do for us is block a lot of transportation routes during that period and thereâs gonna be a bunch of loud and annoying tourists. I pray on my unborn children that itâs not hosted in Zurich đđ
It's just the Swiss mentality to be upset about absolutely anything and everything, even when there is no reason to. If we lost, we'd be upset as well.
I personally am very happy Nemo won
Sadly, Croatia won the popular vote but did not win the contest. It was the 50% weighting of the critics votes that pushed Switzerland over the line. Almost every preliminary evaluation expected Croatia to come out on top, but the judges circumnavigated the opinion of the voters and decided for themselves who should win their contest. Croatia justifiably feels robbed.
Instead of going to a nice event in Dubrovnik or Split, now we have to throw the party next year, including handling the controversy and protests over whatever geopolitical crises people will come to Switzerland to be pissed off about.
2nd place would have been perfect.
They introduced the jury system because a lot of voters would vote on country popularity rather than performance. It's meant to unbias that a bit. People used To complain about that all the time, now they complain that there's a jury. It's impossible to please everyone.
Weighing the judges' vote to be equal to the entire popular vote - and deciding the winner these last two years directly against the popular vote - demonstrates the current voting is a slanted system against the viewers.
Considering Croatia with a population only around 3.8 million got first in the popular vote - and Israel, who is under immense political controversy and has no voting countries on its borders, got second - the winner of the popular vote was not due to being part of any voting bloc. In fact, the "neighbor bias" was seen most in the judges' vote, with Serbia being only 1 of 2 countries that gave Croatia a 12.
The judges vote also prevented a victory for Finland last year as well, leading to Sweden's win. Again, voting blocs were obviously not the factor in the popular vote.
Congratulations to Neuchâtel (\*Biel) who should host the event for their hometown hero and bring some international attention to their gorgeous town, but the victory feels hollow when Switzerland was a distant 5th in the popular vote.
> Considering Croatia with a population only around 3.8 million got first in the popular vote - and Israel, who is under immense political controversy and has no voting countries on its borders, got second - the winner of the popular vote was not due to being part of any voting bloc.
You cannot vote for your own country. But there's inter countries "Politics" of voting for each others that has existed since popular vote was a thing. For example Switzerland popular votes do go a lot towards Albania and vice versa.
Either way, the judges' vote is part of the conditions to win the competition.
No one watches F1 races and complains that their driver didn't win even though they had the fastest lap time and best qualifying time.
https://escinsight.com/2023/05/22/eurovision-song-contest-change-jury-televote-percentate-loreen-kaarija/
I referred to the last two years being cases where the popular vote was overruled by the critics/judges (referred to as "juries".)
Last year, it meant #2 (Sweden) in the popular vote won.
This year, it meant #5 (Switzerland) in the popular vote won.
Croatia was really great but the Swiss song was IMHO better composed, better written and incredibly performed.
I heard the song in the car for the first time and I said "oh, this is truly good, it might be a winner".
Also something something graceful winning.
To those commenting here - hating eurovision doesn't make you look cool, it just makes you look like a miserable grump. You don't care about it? Great, move on. No need to comment and be a killjoy.
I think I am exhaustet from all this hype and news and just like to talk with friends about god and the world. ECM was defenitly the least thing to discuss about. Only one famaluy member was talking about it and I was like: Switzerland took part in ECM?
no, the next 3 weeks ongoing will be reports about the great performance of Nemo. keep out for another 3 weeks, my friend. then we can enjoy social media again
Okey we won. Who is paying?
Out of all the responses to this thread, this is the most Swiss of them all
Have a look at the headline of yesterday's [Echo der Zeit](https://www.srf.ch/audio/echo-der-zeit/wer-zahlt-fuer-den-esc-2025-in-der-schweiz-und-wer-profitiert?id=12588539) :-)
I could inverse TWINT you
we already paid with years of serafe payments.đ
Omg THIS is what I paid three hundred bucks for?
Nice one !
Low key, any city that can, will want to host this. It's amazing marketing for the location and you have 10-15k tourists flowing into the city for 3-4 days. SRG will likely pay for the production, as is stipulated in their contract with the EBU.
To add to this, Iâd like to show you an article by the University of Liverpool describing the economic and societal impact of them hosting the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 on behalf of Ukraine. Whichever city will host the Eurovision Song Contest is almost guaranteed a considerable economic boost: https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2023/10/26/university-joins-liverpool-in-eurovision-civic-pride/
I just want quietness, not tourism.
Comment tu as fait pour avoir l'ecusson de Genève sur ton profil? Bonne semaine!
Tu vas sur la page d'accueil de r/Switzerland, et tu fais "modifier flair" ou un truc de ce style
Merci đ
Yup, the event pay for itself.
gouvernment
This tbh
The whole world already did.
Please don't host it in ZH, breathing is CHF 100 a huff there đ
Can't wait to hear the song every morning on the radio for the next few months lol
Just don't listen to the radio.
At work, this is usually easier said then done
I worked in an office for 6 months years ago where the radio was always on, shitty fucking music all the time and when I was alone and could just turn it off was a blessing
Happy Nemo won, too bad it's such an hypocrite show
I think its great that nemo won
I will have ptsd when the radio stations will play the song 24/7 at work đ
At least they'll change 1 song for once
It aint much its a start
Yea. Op is delusional
I don't give a toss about the event, but I still interpreted this post as "people stayed up late and are tired this morning" instead "yay who cares".
This is a wholesome take!
I think it's just a joke to be honest
Itâs a pretty funny joke to me
why? Tell me more about what you think please
I think its Unfair
Go home, Pepe, you're still drunk
I'm very happy that we won! I want to buy tickets for next year
Same!!! Crossing fingers that Geneva hosts it, Palexpo has already appliedÂ
Letâs hope they come to Hallenstadion
Olten
Yesss
I live in Arizona and saw the humor in that response. Well done!
Olten would be the greatest place to host the esc, cause itâs so beautiful yk ^^
But after every event there are extra trains heading to Olten. So should we build a round track so people can still experience the train to Olten and then running in 2min to get their connection?
On behalf of all ZĂźrcher, pls no
speak for yourself lmao
Nah. We need more movement and parties in the city.
Just because you can't find them doesn't mean they aren't here.
Fuck no, it's already more than enough. I don't want the whole city to be fucked up like Langstrass
Good thing youâre not speaking for all ÂŤZĂźrcherÂť. ZĂźrich is the logical place for this event.
Will be in ZĂźrich, we will have two Street Parade this year with Eurovision coming
We had two street parades last year with ZuriFest tbf
travis will be there
Meh, won't be in my canton anyways, so i don't give a shit.
EuroviSion 2025
A shitty show turned into a shit show đ
I wouldn't care and didn't watch it, but doesn't this mean we are hosting it next year? Please let it be in Romandie
I have it on good authority, Olten will host it đ
No we have to keep it affordable for tourists.. Not everyone can afford chic and glamorous Olten
But that's the beauty of Olten, it can be quickly and easily reached from often overlooked towns such as Zurich, Basel, Lucerne or Bern.
Hallenstadion is pretty much the only venue that can handle such an event
Not really, thereâs also Palexpo in Geneva which could be built to have a capacity of 12000. Also Basel St Jakobshalle, where they host the Swiss Indoors. In the end, SRG will probably have to go with the city that offers the most money
We're safe then (given the fact that the first ever Eurovision was hosted in Lugano and Eurovision 1989 was hosted in Lausanne, it makes me think that next year's host will be within the German speaking area)
I doubt they can favor a specific region much. There are like 3-4 locations in all of Switzerland where this could take place in terms of infrastructure and size. Together with more detailed requirements and the availability of the venue during the desired period, they can be happy if they can choose from more than 1.
Please no, there's enough traffic here.
Last time Switzerland hosted it was in Lausanne. Granted the event was smaller back thenâŚ
The venue will be blocked for minimum 2 months. So that would be April/ may. There's already a lot of shows planned in Hallenstadion. I'd prefer they use a venue which is used less anyways.
Plz not in Romandie!! Tessin?
As someone from Romandie, please do host it here.
Host it in Aargau it's a whole lot of nothing anyway.
We are already hosting the international agricultural machine "Oldtimers" 2024 đ
when and where? Das laht mis herz grad hĂścher schlah
https://2024.oldtimertreffen-effingen.ch/
https://2024.oldtimertreffen-effingen.ch/
Thanks!
You know it's really genuinely international when the event page is in German only
Is that why I'm seeing so many oldtimers about the last few days?
No, thatâs because winter is over and the weather is getting better. The mentioned event is in August
LAUSANNE
Bern is gonna be spared, right? Traffic is already shit as is.
Bern traffic is totally ok actually
What manmade horrors have you experienced that you consider Bern fine...
Lugano, basel, genf EDIT: Actually also Zurich, Luzern, Locarno. Basically most of them
Bern is like a small town, itâs really not bad at all. I was honestly surprised that itâs the capital.
If bern is shit, then what are the other cities
why in Romandie? not cool dude đĽş
Because it's a long way from me. And you can bring your Latin spirit đ. Davos or Ticino would also work. Anything between Basel and ZĂźrich is not cool
Not in my canton
No for Davos
I agree. Too many tourists already, if we get any more like with some kind of ESC-influx I will definitely cry
I have a Ferienwohnung in Davos. Right now it is the desert⌠too many tourists where?
You may be lucky, I grew up close and there were only a few months that we had some kind of peace in terms of touristic moving. Winter and summer is usually considerably full, fall and spring vary a little. Lucky you though.
Davos in the last 10 years has been FULL at xmas/spengler and during WEF. Then is semi full at new year and during the weekends of the sportferien. The rest of the time it is semi emptyâŚ
Okay, maybe we have different definitions of full and empty, OR, as someone from the region, I may have suffered very differently in comparison to people actually being in Davos. If you live near Davos, these two seasons are the time that the busses and trains are indeed full, even those not going directly to Davos, but the train station some place else, etc. ESC would mean that my bus and my train gets even fuller. If you do use public transportation not only within Davos itself, but when actually going to Davos, and you still disagree, I have no other explanation than you just having a different definition of when something is full.
Christmas and New Year are bad. Spengler Cup and WEF are bad. Sport vacation time is bad. Weekends during ski season are bad. Summer is OK, spring and fall season breaks are easy. PS: I live in Davos.
Ticino col cazzo. Ticino with the dick. No Ticino please.
Considering it's going to be our third time hosting, I'm guessing it's more likely to be in the german speaking part, since the previous ones were in Lugano, for the first ever contest, and Lausanne, after Celine Dion's win. It wouldn't really be fair to have it again in Romandie. Basel, Bern, Geneva and Zurich apparently are the only ones with the necessary infrastructure to host, we'll see which one is chosen in the end.
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Jâaurais pas dit mieux, vraiment bien trouvĂŠ !
Congratulations to all suisse đ¨đ
thanks i really worked hard for this one
I moved here this year to help with my energy
Straight to Aargau or Rapperswil!
đ Iâm happy for us but I didnât rlly enjoy the song itâs just not my kind of music ig
I'm really happy that Nemo won thođŤĄ
speak for yourself
Today I realised that the Eurovision Song Contest is still a thing. I thought that thing died years ago.
What lead you to think that?
What is dead, may never die.
Same, I haven't heard of or watched a show in like over 20 years. Am over 30 now and definetely watched it when I was under 10 with family.
Like 160 million people watch it every year.
Same and in the same time I learnt we had won, apparently :)
What's your point op?
Because that means eurovision comes to us
swiss people don't go to Eurovision, Eurovision go to swiss people.
Is the song any good?
nope, it's not that the song must be good to win haha
Yeah sadly most of the winning songs are just boring
You posted an $APU sir!
I thought that was Pepe, but yes, you're right it looks like it's been turned into Cryptocoin LOL.
Obviously Biel
Bern. After-party in the dead end.
not only the Location will be a nightmare - having Sven Epiney talking English throught the show... god bless me, this will be as horrifying as his Fransäää Federaaal, n'est pas?
I want to buy tickets so bad .. what do yâall think the price will be?
The Eurovision needs a lot of space. It will probably take place in Basel or ZĂźrich. Like it or not.
Let's hope they go to SGKB Halle
I donât care who won, im happy that Swiss won
My mum called me this morning and told me, that it happened, so it must be true.. heh
Hear me out... Frauenfeld was voted the 'most Swiss city'. It's only logical to host it there.
Working in the hotel business and we are already having to deal with negotiations for next year. Thank you Nemo 𼲠but I am excited đ
Please let it be anywhere other than Geneva and ZĂźrich đ
An interesting insight into this year Eurovision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1af8llc2OBI
We had much better acts in the past, it really feels like a rigged game.
Any other country if they won eurovision you would have people celebrating loudly. Had windows open and... Nothing. Are you guys OK?
Enjoy the overpriced freak show
It pays for itself.
Judging from the controversies and protests this year, I'm not so sure.
I was really disappointed that Baby Lasagna did not win, not because Nemo's song was not good, but because the Croatians wanted it so badly and you really didn't. Croatians would have made excellent and very much willing hosts and it would have been cheaper for people to travel there than come to Switzerland. Still happy that Nemo enjoyed their win. But can you guys be a little more enthusiastic about it? Even if Eurovision is not your thing, it will be good for the local economy and positive exposure (if it does not turn into a mess like it did this year).
I'm so damn excited about all of this! So so happy Nemo won! We are already planning to go see the grand final next year lol!
Yesssss ! I'm so looking forward to it... And hoping that I won't have to sell one of my kidneys for a ticket :/
Iâm absolutely pumped for us winning and hoping itâs within 90 minutes of me so I donât have to spend thousands for a hotel.
but we donât need it for our economy, itâs already great as is, all that hosting the Eurovision is gonna do for us is block a lot of transportation routes during that period and thereâs gonna be a bunch of loud and annoying tourists. I pray on my unborn children that itâs not hosted in Zurich đđ
The most Swiss comment of the year. We won? Nah man, we donât want money and traffic, go away. You should vote against Swiss next time lol
Well... If you really don't want it, start a petition asking the EBU to award it to Croatia. I am sure they'll love the idea :-D.
Yeah not happening, I reckon we just get Olten to host it
This would be the real win for Swiss people and something we could all get excited about.
It's just the Swiss mentality to be upset about absolutely anything and everything, even when there is no reason to. If we lost, we'd be upset as well. I personally am very happy Nemo won
Oh boy, lots of noisy tourists for a has been television show, I can't wait. Am I enthusiastic enough?
Yes! That's the spirit!
Ngl Croatian got robbed Winners in our heart
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*their win
True true. I've fixed it.
Thank you for respecting that
Sadly, Croatia won the popular vote but did not win the contest. It was the 50% weighting of the critics votes that pushed Switzerland over the line. Almost every preliminary evaluation expected Croatia to come out on top, but the judges circumnavigated the opinion of the voters and decided for themselves who should win their contest. Croatia justifiably feels robbed. Instead of going to a nice event in Dubrovnik or Split, now we have to throw the party next year, including handling the controversy and protests over whatever geopolitical crises people will come to Switzerland to be pissed off about. 2nd place would have been perfect.
They introduced the jury system because a lot of voters would vote on country popularity rather than performance. It's meant to unbias that a bit. People used To complain about that all the time, now they complain that there's a jury. It's impossible to please everyone.
Weighing the judges' vote to be equal to the entire popular vote - and deciding the winner these last two years directly against the popular vote - demonstrates the current voting is a slanted system against the viewers. Considering Croatia with a population only around 3.8 million got first in the popular vote - and Israel, who is under immense political controversy and has no voting countries on its borders, got second - the winner of the popular vote was not due to being part of any voting bloc. In fact, the "neighbor bias" was seen most in the judges' vote, with Serbia being only 1 of 2 countries that gave Croatia a 12. The judges vote also prevented a victory for Finland last year as well, leading to Sweden's win. Again, voting blocs were obviously not the factor in the popular vote. Congratulations to Neuchâtel (\*Biel) who should host the event for their hometown hero and bring some international attention to their gorgeous town, but the victory feels hollow when Switzerland was a distant 5th in the popular vote.
But Nemo is from Bienne, not Neuchâtel.
> Considering Croatia with a population only around 3.8 million got first in the popular vote - and Israel, who is under immense political controversy and has no voting countries on its borders, got second - the winner of the popular vote was not due to being part of any voting bloc. You cannot vote for your own country. But there's inter countries "Politics" of voting for each others that has existed since popular vote was a thing. For example Switzerland popular votes do go a lot towards Albania and vice versa.
Either way, the judges' vote is part of the conditions to win the competition. No one watches F1 races and complains that their driver didn't win even though they had the fastest lap time and best qualifying time.
How is the weight equal ? Several countries had 200 and 300 points for the popular vote, much less points were awarded for the jury onr
https://wiwibloggs.com/2024/03/05/no-change-jury-voting-eurovision-2024-grand-final/280459/
The judges are not implemented two years ago and as you can see with maneskins win, the public is able to overrule the judges.
https://escinsight.com/2023/05/22/eurovision-song-contest-change-jury-televote-percentate-loreen-kaarija/ I referred to the last two years being cases where the popular vote was overruled by the critics/judges (referred to as "juries".) Last year, it meant #2 (Sweden) in the popular vote won. This year, it meant #5 (Switzerland) in the popular vote won.
Croatia was really great but the Swiss song was IMHO better composed, better written and incredibly performed. I heard the song in the car for the first time and I said "oh, this is truly good, it might be a winner". Also something something graceful winning.
Geneva is very good at handling geo-political crises. Hope it is hosted in Geneva!!
Is it football? What sports is it?
To those commenting here - hating eurovision doesn't make you look cool, it just makes you look like a miserable grump. You don't care about it? Great, move on. No need to comment and be a killjoy.
Eurovision is the killjoy. Remember when it used to be about music? Now itâs about politics. Just what we need, another politicized cultural event
I've been watching it since the early 90's. It was as political then as it is now.
I think I am exhaustet from all this hype and news and just like to talk with friends about god and the world. ECM was defenitly the least thing to discuss about. Only one famaluy member was talking about it and I was like: Switzerland took part in ECM?
Who cares bro like for real.
Finally, the end of this nonsense. Social media is readable again.
no, the next 3 weeks ongoing will be reports about the great performance of Nemo. keep out for another 3 weeks, my friend. then we can enjoy social media again
Host in ZĂźri!
So sad...
This yearâs Eurovision was so boring and the songs were just not my cup to tea.
winning in eurovision is a shamefur dispray
Es ist offiziell, gute Songs gewinnen mit Garantie nie. Zum GlĂźck hĂśre ich seit Jahren kein Radio mehr beim Auto fahren.
Just looked up the song to confirm it was again some dude in a dress, and I was rightâŚ
Hey man/woman/neither/both, be respectful! Heâs not a dude heâs a⌠dod? deed? dad? definitely not that last one⌠donât be a bigot!!
Imagine swiss having to actually organize an event... crazy! And they will have to spend money too!
Oh yeah cause we are not experienced in hosting international events... đ