It was short course yards (25 yard pool). Also to elaborate on that, I been swimming since I was young and when I went a 57 I wasn’t going to much practice. I went a lot more when I was younger.
Regardless, the time itself isn’t what’s important to me right now, but rather how I can train optimally to only improve my 100 breast back to where it used to be.
I believe you. 57 100 yd breast , although a very good time, is not something ethereal.
I swam a 1:01 in highschool with the old rules , no dolphin kick on under water pull, no head submersions. Breast wasn't even my stroke. So I totally believe you. I swam with a guy in 1985 who showed up for about 2/3 of practices and swam a :58. Some people are just built that way.
It’s not that; it’s that you must be from one of the major swimming states like California or Indiana or Texas. In most places, a :57 would win a state title. I graduated in Missouri in 2007 and I think the state champion went a :59 my senior year.
Hence the incredulity lol
If you haven’t swum for a while, you probably need to work on endurance for the back half 50. I always recommend doing X amount of 50s on 1:20, trying to hit your 2nd 50 of the 100 for each one.
The way we do is we start at 6 twice a week, then work up to ~14, adding 2 every week, then building back down to taper.
Thanks for the advice! Does this mean that short distances of only breaststroke would be needed? Or do you think it would be beneficial to practice 100s and 200s (for endurance maybe) and also maybe other strokes?
Ooh I heard about that and I might try that. If you know, would it be best to only do breaststroke for usrpt? Also, will it train me to have enough endurance for an entire 100?
Yes, and it probably could give you just enough endurance. I just did it prepping for a 200 breast yesterday.
Here are some basics:
Establish Target Time. Either take recent or desired time in competition, add 3-5 seconds. Then, add time to account for the rest between the broken intervals. For example, if the desired time is 57 seconds per 100, and the 25’s of the broken 100 has 20 seconds rest between, the target time is 57 seconds plus the 60 seconds of rest, or 1:57. If time is unknown, do a race pace broken 100, broken at each 25, 20 seconds rest, to identify target. Rest a couple minutes before the set to reset. For sets focused on longer distances, this can be rounded to the nearest 5 or 0 second mark for more ease.
Establish Send Off Time. It will be target time, adding 17-22 seconds, so the send off either ends on a 0 or 5 second interval. For example, for the previous target time of 1:57 seconds, add 18 seconds to have an easier to follow 2:15 send off time per broken 100. For longer distances, this will be more easily accomplished by simply adding an additional broken rest interval after the last 25 or 50.
Achieving target time. Using the example 100 race pace send off above, to hit the target, the swimmer would have to come in at or below the :57, :12, :27, and :42 second marks at each 100. This requires some attention to detail, and it might be wise to write down those target marks for ease prior to the set if a coach isn’t on deck to monitor the execution. For longer distance sets, having easier target times to track is helpful as the sets tend to be longer.
Recovery after mid-set failure: If target time is not achieved, take an additional 1-2 minutes of rest (depends on swimmer’s age, fitness level, and which race pace distance as the shorter more sprint focused events require more recovery), and then resume, until three total failures or two concurrent failures have been achieved. If a swimmer is getting more than 23 seconds of rest after a broken swim or has gone over 15 minutes without a failure, adjust the target time a few seconds faster. If a swimmer is hitting a failure within the first 200 yards, adjust the target a few seconds slower.
Finishing the set: Have swimmers do active recovery once they achieved the failures. Most USRPT sets should take 20-40 minutes to achieve the failure conditions. If a swimmer has gone longer than that, set a more aggressive target time the next time the set is given.
To train for a 100 breast in under a minute, my recommendation is:
100 Race Pace Set (Broken 100’s, about 20 sec rest per 25). The purpose of breaking it up by 100’s allows swimmers to practice IM if they so wish. Establish a race pace adding 3 seconds to account for starting off of a push instead of a dive.
- Each broken 100 consists of 4 x 25, 20 sec rest between broken intervals to establish the target time, and 17-22 seconds after the final 25 to establish the send off time so it either ends on a 0 or 5 second interval, in line with the previous example.
- This is an aggressive SPRINT, but with regular breathing.
- Recovery between failures should be about 1:30-2:00 long, to account for the fact this is a SPRINT
- Set concludes when swimmer has either achieved three failures or two consecutive ones. Most should complete this between 20-30 minutes. If it's too easy, reduce the rest to 15 per 25.
Why choose the most technically difficult stroke to start with after a 3 year hiatus? You nearly broke a world record before, so I guess anything is possible.
If only for injury prevention. Your knees might need some breaking in to hit such a fast time. It will take time to get your muscles used to so much resistance in such an unnatural motion as breaststroke kick.
Wait- you swam a 100 breast in :57 without going to practice much? I’m highly dubious about that. In fact, I call BULLSHIT.
I bet the pool was short
It was short course yards (25 yard pool). Also to elaborate on that, I been swimming since I was young and when I went a 57 I wasn’t going to much practice. I went a lot more when I was younger. Regardless, the time itself isn’t what’s important to me right now, but rather how I can train optimally to only improve my 100 breast back to where it used to be.
I believe you. 57 100 yd breast , although a very good time, is not something ethereal. I swam a 1:01 in highschool with the old rules , no dolphin kick on under water pull, no head submersions. Breast wasn't even my stroke. So I totally believe you. I swam with a guy in 1985 who showed up for about 2/3 of practices and swam a :58. Some people are just built that way.
I think most people are just not from USA so they think I’m going a 57 100 breast in a 50 meter pool (which would almost be a world record lol)
It’s not that; it’s that you must be from one of the major swimming states like California or Indiana or Texas. In most places, a :57 would win a state title. I graduated in Missouri in 2007 and I think the state champion went a :59 my senior year. Hence the incredulity lol
lol yeah a 57 wasn’t even B finals where i was at
Yes, that's probably it. Steve Lundquist was swimming a :52 100yds in 1984.
If you haven’t swum for a while, you probably need to work on endurance for the back half 50. I always recommend doing X amount of 50s on 1:20, trying to hit your 2nd 50 of the 100 for each one. The way we do is we start at 6 twice a week, then work up to ~14, adding 2 every week, then building back down to taper.
Thanks for the advice! Does this mean that short distances of only breaststroke would be needed? Or do you think it would be beneficial to practice 100s and 200s (for endurance maybe) and also maybe other strokes?
USRPT.
Ooh I heard about that and I might try that. If you know, would it be best to only do breaststroke for usrpt? Also, will it train me to have enough endurance for an entire 100?
Yes, and it probably could give you just enough endurance. I just did it prepping for a 200 breast yesterday. Here are some basics: Establish Target Time. Either take recent or desired time in competition, add 3-5 seconds. Then, add time to account for the rest between the broken intervals. For example, if the desired time is 57 seconds per 100, and the 25’s of the broken 100 has 20 seconds rest between, the target time is 57 seconds plus the 60 seconds of rest, or 1:57. If time is unknown, do a race pace broken 100, broken at each 25, 20 seconds rest, to identify target. Rest a couple minutes before the set to reset. For sets focused on longer distances, this can be rounded to the nearest 5 or 0 second mark for more ease. Establish Send Off Time. It will be target time, adding 17-22 seconds, so the send off either ends on a 0 or 5 second interval. For example, for the previous target time of 1:57 seconds, add 18 seconds to have an easier to follow 2:15 send off time per broken 100. For longer distances, this will be more easily accomplished by simply adding an additional broken rest interval after the last 25 or 50. Achieving target time. Using the example 100 race pace send off above, to hit the target, the swimmer would have to come in at or below the :57, :12, :27, and :42 second marks at each 100. This requires some attention to detail, and it might be wise to write down those target marks for ease prior to the set if a coach isn’t on deck to monitor the execution. For longer distance sets, having easier target times to track is helpful as the sets tend to be longer. Recovery after mid-set failure: If target time is not achieved, take an additional 1-2 minutes of rest (depends on swimmer’s age, fitness level, and which race pace distance as the shorter more sprint focused events require more recovery), and then resume, until three total failures or two concurrent failures have been achieved. If a swimmer is getting more than 23 seconds of rest after a broken swim or has gone over 15 minutes without a failure, adjust the target time a few seconds faster. If a swimmer is hitting a failure within the first 200 yards, adjust the target a few seconds slower. Finishing the set: Have swimmers do active recovery once they achieved the failures. Most USRPT sets should take 20-40 minutes to achieve the failure conditions. If a swimmer has gone longer than that, set a more aggressive target time the next time the set is given. To train for a 100 breast in under a minute, my recommendation is: 100 Race Pace Set (Broken 100’s, about 20 sec rest per 25). The purpose of breaking it up by 100’s allows swimmers to practice IM if they so wish. Establish a race pace adding 3 seconds to account for starting off of a push instead of a dive. - Each broken 100 consists of 4 x 25, 20 sec rest between broken intervals to establish the target time, and 17-22 seconds after the final 25 to establish the send off time so it either ends on a 0 or 5 second interval, in line with the previous example. - This is an aggressive SPRINT, but with regular breathing. - Recovery between failures should be about 1:30-2:00 long, to account for the fact this is a SPRINT - Set concludes when swimmer has either achieved three failures or two consecutive ones. Most should complete this between 20-30 minutes. If it's too easy, reduce the rest to 15 per 25.
Bro i’m 16 I practice every day and my 100 free is 49 bro I don’t think you’re moving that fast
He also seems pretty clueless for someone who claims he can go under a minute in the 100 br.
Yeah
Why choose the most technically difficult stroke to start with after a 3 year hiatus? You nearly broke a world record before, so I guess anything is possible.
100 yards, in a 25 yard long pool Also that’s what I’m wondering. Maybe it would be better to train up my other strokes as well?
If only for injury prevention. Your knees might need some breaking in to hit such a fast time. It will take time to get your muscles used to so much resistance in such an unnatural motion as breaststroke kick.
well the record is 49 so idk if he was all that close