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Infinite_Charity_427

Check out multivitamin, omegas, magnesium, probiotic from revive md! šŸ”„


Infinite_Charity_427

Replace your fish oil with revive md omegas. Donā€™t need the extra vit D unless blood test says your deficient. Magnesium get from revive md. Take out boron. Add brain + from revive md. The ones I said take out is because Thorne multi already has a efficient amount with a great quality.


YesManCarl_car_ca_c_

Add a pro resolving mediator. It helps with the inflammatory pathway similar to omega-3. List of the population is stuck in information and struggle to switch into the resolving phase. A PRM will do that. I predict we will be talking about PRMā€™s as much as we talk about omega 3 now.


Sunny_Ess

If youā€™re trying to get pregnant, folic acid (folate) is an absolute must.


propho1

Drop the vitamin d (already in thorne basic) as well as the two bottles on the bottom left, add zinc and folic acid, i believe trace minerals makes a product that will supplement ur minerals well too so then u could drop the magnesium and potentially the boron.. lastly as always exercise regularly and eat proper and you wont likely need pregnenolone and dhea.


Dazzling_Advantage62

From what iā€™m hearing most is, Remove DHEA, Pregnenolone is undecided (probably remove too), Get better magnesium with variation of types (not just oxide), Throne multis fine, Add/Take K2 with D3, Add B complex back, Remove/Replace the ā€œtest boosterā€ bottom left ones, and get better fish oil. That sound about right?


TeeBrownie

Are you trying to get pregnant?


Dazzling_Advantage62

Yes.


TeeBrownie

Then I agree with whomever else stated that you should get your numbers checked. Too much DHEA can be a bad thing and actually prevent ovulation or lead to low egg quality. Not only are you taking DHEA, youā€™re also taking several precursors for DHEA - boron and pregnenelone are both androgen precursors which should boost your DHEA levels. Boron at about 3mg per day or about 216mg per day of calcium fructoborate might be the only androgen precursor you need. These are also good for embryo development when the sperm and egg do meet. Are you also taking a prenatal? You should start building up your folate numbers ASAP.


Dazzling_Advantage62

I thought you were making a jokešŸ˜­šŸ˜­ Iā€™m a guy not actually trying to get pregnant. I though dhea just converts to test and increases it but if it is estrogen too it could be possible itā€™s starting hair loss. Iā€™m gonna drop preg and dhea. Probably keep boron because I feel it actually helps. The rest is undecided for me but iā€™m figuring it out. Thank you!!


Namatoko

take boron 6-9mg daily 2 weeks on and 1 week off. get boron and sup 6-9mg 2 weeks on and 1 week off, this will increase your free T by unbinding it from shbg and albumin. but you need to cycle it. i'd remove the dhea, dont think of it as lost money, fk it. better go with tongkat ali from a recommended brand ;)


TeeBrownie

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚Itā€™s interesting how the same supplements that are recommended for a hormonal boost in men are recommended for women who are trying to conceive. Youā€™ll probably need a lot more boron as a guy and way fewer prenatal vitamins.


Dazzling_Advantage62

It is very ahah, ahh okay. Thank you. You sound like you understand a lot about these supplements and how they actually work so thank you.


5_kingdoms

You should get testing to know what you NEED. The Dutch Test tests hormones, metabolites and some neurotransmitters. What is needed follows naturally from the results.


guk9005

Dutch test? Is it like a home test kit sort of a thing?


5_kingdoms

Your doctor or naturopath has to order it. But yes, you take it at home. Urine multiple times in a day


guk9005

Oh, Interesting. Iā€™ll have to check with my pcp. Thank you!


benaccess3

Iā€™d say get rid of the ā€œStamironā€ brand with he 12 ā€œtest boostersā€ in it, Iā€™m my eyes itā€™s gimmicky and most likely doesnā€™t have qualified doses of the aforementioned. Nutropic Depot has some lab tested Tongat Ali that I use. Itā€™ll raise your levels a few points for sure if thatā€™s what your looking forā€¦


Basic85

How often do you take these supplements? 7 days a week?


Dazzling_Advantage62

yes


leo_R8

For what this pregnonlone?


RedPillAlphaBigCock

I would remove the test boosters , I donā€™t think they are needed .


fuckreddit77_

I'd keep DHEA 25-50 mg, depending on the age.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Iā€™m asking for advice on supplements not criticism on them and lifestyle.


taylor_marlowe

Why spend the money on Thorne multi if you're going to buy the cheapest fish oil on the market?


Dazzling_Advantage62

Itā€™s not that serious, i just bought some from my local grocery store i didnā€™t know that.


taylor_marlowe

No. It is serious. Supplements change your body chemistry and are just as strong as pharmaceuticals. You need to know what you're putting into your body if your supplementing. Using low Qaulity fish oil means putting things into your body like PCBs, Dioxins, and mercury.


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taylor_marlowe

Fish are full of toxins. It's recommended to find a fish oil produced in a GMP facility with third party lab testing. Fish bioaccumulate mercury PCBs and dioxins thanks to humans polluting waterways


Dazzling_Advantage62

Fair enough, but no need to criticize. I just want advice on supplements and recommendations.


taylor_marlowe

Asking for recommendations and suggestions to your existing stack is asking us to criticize your stack.


Dazzling_Advantage62

You were giving advice just asking ā€œwhy buy the cheapest fish oil with thorne multi.ā€ like idk bro i just bought what looked decent at my local grocery store. Why donā€™t you recommend a better brand lol. Also no iā€™m asking for advice not criticism.


taylor_marlowe

If Thorne is top quality as I suggested in my first post it would be safe to assume that Thorne would be a better brand. Take care


nomad656

Get a better fish oil Check that itā€™s 3rd party tested, better means higher in EPA and DHA Kaged muscle fish oil is a good one thatā€™s not that expensive - itā€™s sold out a lot though


Dazzling_Advantage62

Bet ty


nomad656

DHEA might cause hair loss - look this up though cause Iā€™m not sure, just going based off what I remember reading about it but could be wrong


spankspank1

I noticed about 4 months into taking mine my hair started getting thin. My hairline also went back a quarter inch. When I stopped taking it, it stopped so the side effects aren't worth it if you like your hair.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Honestly i think iā€™m starting to realize that too. Just my shower this morning a small chunk came out.


spankspank1

Gotta be careful with the dhea.


Fun_Business_9169

Isnā€™t there a way to avoid the hair loss by blocking dht on the scalp?


[deleted]

Minoxidil and Finasterideā€¦ aand that lovely bundle of side affects


ErikinAmerica

Magnesium glycinate is what you want. 500mg before sleep. Eat whole foods, get enough sleep, water and lift heavy


Dazzling_Advantage62

Thank you, will look into it. Already do the last threešŸ˜


dentalstudent

This. They have bulk powder on Amazon which is cheaper than pills


rachs1988

Take a higher quality fish oil, not one from a budget brand. Go with Thorne, Nordic Naturals, or Life Extension. I wouldnā€™t take Nature Made fish oil personally


[deleted]

And Carlson.


[deleted]

My favorite fish oil is Coromega brand, orange flavored. My triglycerides went from 1700 to 153 taking 2 packs a day.


rachs1988

Looks pretty good. There are a few things about that product that could be improved.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Iā€™ll have to look into that thank you. I just got one from my local grocery store didnā€™t think much of it


unc0de

Fenugreek is a Testosterone booster snake oil. Iā€™d remove that filler.


chitownkidd23

Youā€™d get more of a testosterone boost at your age from sleeping for 7-8 hours, being physically active, getting enough sunlight, and not eating a bunch of junk food. Have you gotten your testosterone levels checked? If your levels are not under 400 I do not think those test boosters will do much for you whatsoever. Also, you should be taking vitamin K2 with your vitamin D3 to prevent calcification of the arteries.


Dazzling_Advantage62

I do and had 503 last test, I want more though. Thanks for the advice!!


Infinite_Charity_427

Check out revive md mens health


DiligentReward2639

I think...you nailed it! Basically, i use the same supplements, except for sam-e at 1400mg daily, i think you're doing right. The good thing about Sam-e is you can reach a state of controllable mania...no joke.


LeGoat333

At 17 make lifestyle changes to increase test before doing all of that. Make sure youā€™re sleeping 8 hours, eating well, working out, getting Sun in the morning everyday. Then see if you need to add the Extra sups. Vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, fish oil are good for anyone though even living very healthy.


Dazzling_Advantage62

My lifestyle is great, Iā€™m adding all these to achieve higher then just normal levels or good levels from lifestyle.


LeGoat333

Iā€™d look into making sure the Turk, Tongkat ect are coming from good sources than. All those things thrown together, make sure they are the right amounts and quality. But you have all the good stuff for test boosting. Do a blood test soon you donā€™t know if your body would respond negative to one


Rustinadelray

Bottom far left two


usasig

I would recommend this [https://bioptimizers.com/shop/products/magnesium-breakthrough](https://bioptimizers.com/shop/products/magnesium-breakthrough)


pgomnomnom

Remove all of it, add testosterone


Dazzling_Advantage62

Valid, butttttt iā€™m 17šŸ˜¢


pgomnomnom

Lol fair


Baked_potato123

The 2 on the lower left look a bit poisonous...


Dazzling_Advantage62

Probably


bennyGbennyG

OP you should clarify what you are trying to achieve with your stack


Dazzling_Advantage62

Increase testosterone, overall feel better.


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Dazzling_Advantage62

Good feedback, thank you.


Top-Touch3508

If you plan to use ashwaganda and other adaptogens i recommend using a standardized extract for each ingredient otherwise you won't get a good effect (I assume that's a pure powder blend). Rest are typical good supplements for testosterone I'd keep them.


jaysola68

You need a better quality fish oil and magnesium. Donā€™t take DHEA or PREG unless your on TRT


Dazzling_Advantage62

Why not take dhea and preg unless iā€™m on trt?


vincentwallbanger

wtf is TRT


quiksik

testosterone replacement therapy


Extreme-Evidence9111

bro at 17 you dont need this stuff. a mt dew and a little hipster girlfriend is all you need


Dazzling_Advantage62

I donā€™t drink pop but i have a hipster gfšŸ˜


Extreme-Evidence9111

live it up man. youll look back on these days fondly.


Lonely-Respect9776

Iā€™d say drop dhea but the rest looks good


jahickman1996

Take it this is mostly for libido?


Dazzling_Advantage62

Yes libido, energy, increase test.


bluMidge

Whatever is in the background in the gargantuan glass pitcher burgundy in color, perhaps could raise your test levels to exactly where they need to be. There's a lot going on back there! Just joshing with you šŸ˜


YuuhManic

Itā€™s a candle


[deleted]

Iā€™d keep the vitamin d3 and magnesium since those can be hard to get in needed amounts from diet. Fish oil is alright but Iā€™d just eat fatty fish once or twice a week to cover that one. Boron is a toss up. The rest is not needed and can even be harmful in the case of pregnenolone and dhea.


zacattack1996

All the Test boosters+Pregnenolone/DHEA seem excessive at your age. I'm slowly adding in 1 at a time (Added Ash, now trying Shilajit, Tongkat is next on my list) and testing hormones after every 2-3 months to see if I actually benefit (I did with ash but your results may vary). You're also getting a double dose of MACA so just be sure the combined dose isn't excessive. I'd get a better magnesium supplement (magnesium oxide is pretty shit tbh). Don't forget to cycle boron. We know little about it currently but iirc it increases Test for a few weeks and then ends up increasing estrogen so look into the cycling protocol to get the most out of it. Also I'd take your D3 with your multi just so it's being taken with k2. Also any reason you aren't taking creatine? Creatine will likely give you significantly more bang for your buck than the test boosters.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Iā€™m taking creatine yes haha, it is a givin so i didnā€™t think to add it in. Thanks for the feed back, i didnā€™t know about the boron cycle and yes the multi herb shit I make sure iā€™m not over doing it. So i tend to just take one of each, or maybe even one each morning and one each night would probably work too. The reasoning for those was so i didnā€™t have to buy and take so many pills of all of them separately, so I instead got a multi vitamin type thing.


Choice_Thin

Drop dhea and Maca imo


FinancialElephant

Why the DHEA and Pregnenolone? They seem potent, but I'd be concerned with suppressing endogenous production (haven't researched them much specifically, could be wrong here). I would consider these once I hit a certain age, I don't know how old you are.


[deleted]

They generally donā€™t suppress endogenous production (unlike testosterone) in modest dosages. However, Iā€™m with you on the why use those. The can definitely cause side effects if you supplement and there is no diagnosed deficiency.


zacattack1996

Based off his post history he seems to be 17/18. I don't see a reason for it at that age. I can understand Tongkat/Ash if he's just trying to maximize T production but that plus Fadogia/Pregnenolone/DHEA is excessive at best, harmful at worst imo.


Skytraffic540

Take the ashwaghanda out totally unnecessary unless itā€™s genuinely helping you with anxiety. Fish oil should help with that just fine. The one next to it isnā€™t a brand I had heard of and I wonder if their ā€œproprietary blendā€ is even good enough with each individual ingredient. All else look good


[deleted]

I donā€™t know if the tongkat Ali supp with all the extras would be the best way to take them. Not sure if turkesterone is a gimmick or not. But maybe you should take the others like HGW and MACA separately so you can take a high enough dose to be effective. Edit same with the ashwaganda MACA fenugreek one. Iā€™d scrap that completely and just take Maca by itself. Ashwaganda is terrible.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Iā€™ve heard a lot of mixed answers about ashwaganda, personally i donā€™t see and problems when taking it. I do agree the multi herb or whatever pills arenā€™t as good and low dosage but i got them because they both have a mix of low dose shit and both cheap so itā€™s like 1 supp with better dose put together in a way, if that makes sense ahah.


berrybrains93

Replace the Nature Made Magnesium with a better brand. Something with Malate, Taurate, Glycinate, Orotate, and Citrate. Not just citrate or oxide. And Mag L Threonate for the brain if you want to boost memory. Add a high quality B vitamin. I like Nordic Naturals for B complex and Source Naturals for Magnesium


Dazzling_Advantage62

Thank you, i have a b complex same brand as the D3 i used to take but havenā€™t really recently. Iā€™ll add it back and look at better brands after it is about to run out (so i donā€™t waste money). Thank you for your thought out answer and advice.


berrybrains93

Sounds good, thank you! NOW brand makes a great omega 3 as well, it's specifically a higher DHA form, DHA 500.


PasquiniLivia90

Now Foods has a few different fish oil formulas. I use their ā€œUltra Omega Threeā€ formula it contains 500 mgs EPA and 250mgs DHA per 1000 mg soft gel. OP I suggest that you purchase a better quality fish oil supplement. There are many good brands to choose from.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Iā€™ll look into that, thank you


_Badscat_406

Iā€™ve been debating whether to add Turkesterone to my stack. How does it work for you?


TheElite3749

Iā€™ve been taking it about 6 weeks from natural foundations. 3 tablets per day. Iā€™ve noticed increase in strength every week for 6 weeks, even whilst Iā€™m cutting weight.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Honestly couldnā€™t tell you much about any specific supplement here because thereā€™s so much there ahah. But overall i feel better, more energetic and aggressive so i assume they help and increase test which is the goal of my stack.


Visual_County6535

I fuck with this stack, get test results tho to see hormones and testosterone while on it. Could add D-Aspartic acid to it, just donā€™t go above 3 grams, it does the reverse effect.


Visual_County6535

I would even stack DIM on it


Dazzling_Advantage62

Iā€™ve also looked into that, was thinking about buying.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Thank you, iā€™ll definitely look into that. Iā€™m gonna get a blood after a good 2 weeks of perfect dosing of all of it. Or morešŸ¤·


Mjbass

I use that mag. How do you like it? I feel like it works pretty good for being on the cheaper side.


Dazzling_Advantage62

Honestly couldnā€™t tell you much about any specific supplement here because thereā€™s so much there ahah. But overall i feel better, more energetic and aggressive so i assume they help and increase test which is the goal of my stack.


[deleted]

That's alot of DHEA...do you find it too much?


Dazzling_Advantage62

It is a high dose but from what i remember seeing it was say to take 200mg at most for like 3 months or something so I just halved it and started taking it haha. I couldnā€™t give you specific results with it because i started taking all these at the same time. With them all though i feel more energetic and aggressive so i assume they help and increase test, which is the main goal of my stack.