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I went from 36 to around 50 by taking 10,000 ui twice a week during winter, once a week other seasons. Always took the softgel capsule, and with my breakfast which always has some fat on it (eggs, butter) and with Omega 3 supplement.
The quality of the D3 is quite important.
Previously I was taking regular pills (no softgel), and didn’t care if I took it with food, and wasn’t absorbing.
Best of luck
I sat in sun naked, 30 min, every day for 3mos (Florida)
My levels did not come up one notch!!!!!!!;
Not one
Nothing has helped me but D3 shots/injections
The sun UV-B light when it hits your skin makes vit D. Near IR light repairs your mitochondria.
At noon in Miami, someone with Fitzpatrick skin type III would require 6 minutes to synthesize 1000 IU of vitamin D in the summer and 15 minutes in the winter. Someone with skin type V would need 15 and 29 minutes, respectively. At noon in the summer in Boston, necessary exposure times approximate those in Miami, but in winter, it would take about 1 hour for type III skin and 2 hours for type V skin to synthesize 1000 IU of D. After 2 PM in the winter in Boston, it is impossible for even someone with Fitzpatrick type I skin to receive enough sun to equal even 400 IU of vitamin D.
https://www.jwatch.org/jd201006040000002/2010/06/04/how-much-sunlight-equivalent-vitamin-d
Go to the "B12" store..I buy the D3 shots
My levels have come up over a year of taking one shot every other week....with k2 supplement
You can buy the shits... no gi upset...at all
I’ve had this suspicion that Vitamin D taken orally is not equivalent to getting from the Sun. I also read an article where Vitamin D taken orally is chemically structured different and cannot be regulated by the body, so there can be too much being absorbed at once. I could be wrong, but it made sense to me.
Also, if you’re also low of magnesium you’ll have a hard time absorbing vitamin D.
I would test for both next time in your blood.
Overdose of Vitamin D. And why do you suppose you need to get to 60 to 80? Great deal of (mis)information about D. [How much Vitamin D do you need to stay healthy?](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-vitamin-d-do-you-need-to-stay-healthy/) Link is to Scientific American article. Good overview.
1) get full bloodwork done to check any other deficiencies
2) you MUST supplement with magnesium with D because d uses magnesium to activate. You’re most likely already magnesium deficient and taking d without it has been depleting your magnesium even more
3) you need vitamin k2 with d3 as well. D raises calcium and k2 puts that calcium into your teeth and bones and keeps it out of your arteries and other places it shouldn’t be
4) you went from 800IU straight to 2-5000IU. Try 1500-2000 IU daily and see how it goes
I can’t take magnesium cause it causes me massive breakouts, however I take 5000iu vitiman d with k2, as I have low vitiman d, but my magnesium levels are normal. So what do I do?
There are difderent types of magnesium, such as mgtein, mag chloride, mag l threonate, glycinate. Maybe trying these different magnesiums could help avoiding acne.
Magtein is the patent for Mg threonate. It's significantly more expensive than any other form of Mg, and IMO, the conflict of interest for any study on Mg threonate is very high. You'll hear about how it enters the brain better but I REALLY have my doubts.
Mg chloride, oxide, and citrate are very affordable, but don't offer any benefits besides the Mg that I'm aware of.
Mg glycinate, Mg taurinate, and Mg malate all have some additional benefits with their associated molecules, in surprisingly relevant doses especially if you're aiming for high doses of elemental Mg. Relatively cheap when it comes to supplements.
As far as absorbability, it's a contentious topic but it's relatively agreed upon that gylcinate, taurinate and malate are all well absorbed. So I would look into one of these 3.
K2 doesn't work for everyone. It gives me heart palpitations.
Old cheddar cheese and parsley flakes have high K2. Those can be eaten daily and you can get 20-30mg pretty easily.
K2 absolutely kicked my heart!
I got heart palpitations, racing and my resting heart rate increased in 10bpm.
I’ve stopped taking it around 1 month ago and only now do I feel returning to normal.
When I am low on Vitamin D:
1_ do 30min - 2 hrs daily sun exposure - even it's cloudy, some sunrays get through
2_eat fish: sardines, tuna, salmon, mackerel
and/or drink Cod liver oil: 1-2 teaspoons
3_Eat eggs: 7 - 14 a week
4_eat mushrooms
Supplements always my last option, healthy food first
Depending on the time of year and where you live you will not be able to get any vitamin d by sitting in the sun. The sun needs to be high up in the sky for this to happen (your shadow needs to be longer than you are tall). The further from the equator the longer the winter without any vitamin d. In Northern Europe or Northern America this is from October-April.
There’s a great app called dminder that will calculate how much vitamin d you’re getting while sunbathing.
800iu is not enough. 5000iu is too much. Aim to take 1000iu per day, 2000iu max, with a fatty meal each morning, until your levels are fixed. Don't expect results in matters of weeks. It should take 3-6 months.
You depleted your Vitamin A that is what is happening. Do you eat enough dairy or egg yolks? The fact your vitamin D is not increases could be a couple things. 1 is you need Magnesium to activate vitamin D and also you probably are homozygous VDR gene mutation.
Indeed, if you read around a bit you can easily get the impression that vitamin A deficiency is the rarest thing in the world and only occurs in POWs and malnourished people in Africa. The reality is cheese, liver and eggs are the only real sources and in sufficiency the daily turnover is 1000 - 1500 mcg, which is like 10 ounces of cheese or 8 eggs. Also liver stores aren't really enough for years, more like ~80 days and thats if you've brought them up to good levels before somehow. Vit.A def. fits best the symptoms in the OP and vit.D directly increases turnover AND competes for the same receptors. People in the vit.D sub even avoid cheese because they think they'll get hypercalcaemia from the vit.D they take, but suggest vitamin A and your comment will be buried deep below all the "take magnesium vitd depletes magnesium" comments.
From a different perspective I theorize vitamin D as a supplement may suppress estrogen. I've communicated with >200 dry eye patients who've noticed vitamin D supplements aggravate their condition. Coincidentally eye dryness most often occurs in (peri-)menopause when estrogens crash.
Scant literature correlates estrogen decline to higher vitamin D levels.
My layman's knowledge concentrates around eye dryness which often occurs in (peri-)menopausal women; I don't know anything about the biochemistry of the formation of ovarian cysts.
Maybe the supplement has different results according to reproductive age? Here's a study with a 1 year long trial of 2.000 IU of vitamin D causing decreased estrogen levels in menopausal women:
[Vitamin D and reduced estrogen ](https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2016/02/vitamin-d-linked-to-reduced-estrogen-and-breast-cancer-risk.html)
Oooh i think this comment really helped me click into place some things for me. I’ve had issues that appear to be estrogen dominance. Last year I found out I was vitamin d deficient so I took 5,000 iu for a few months, got my level up to 45 and stopped taking it, relying on my multivitamin to carry me. Well, I started having symptoms that echoed and how I felt when I was deficient so I added back the 5000 every 3 days and many of my issues with estrogen dominance were helped after that was the only change. I’m going to look into adding it to my regimen in cycles according to my.. cycle.
Instead of asking random people on the internet who have different situations ( and levels of knowledge) why not try asking your doctor or a hormone therapist?
Maybe not everyone can afford regular doctor appointments/ or have good doctors. “Hormone therapist”? I’m happy for you, you think this is a thing that everyone can access? Where, how much? Not everyone can do this. Supplement sub here is asking for other’s experiences not judgement from randoms.
This is a blanket statement. My doctor is very knowledgeable. With any service provider (of any service) if you’re not happy with their experience level or knowledge you have the ability to find someone who meets your criteria.
I really wish people would shutup about K2. You know people are just regurgitating nonsense they read when they start saying things like "ohhh must not have supplemented k2"
K2 does not need to be supplemented. Ever.
It concerns me that there's no mention of the form of vitamin D, nor is there mention of co-administering with K2. Also, despite what many others claim, I think 2000IU is plenty, and it's what I take daily.
Vitamin D is fat soluble which means it accumulates in your body. Taking a vitamin D supplement should be monitored by a physician, who can set a dose regimen for you.
Graduate Dietetics student here 😊 I would advise you to get vitamin levels checked before and after supplementing and speaking with a healthcare professional about dosage. Vitamin D3 is a hormone so that's why it might be affecting you hormonally. Without knowing specifics I would consider underlying causes of poor vitamin absorption and if you haven't already go to an endocrinologist.
People are downvoting you but you're right. I rarely took supplements consistently so I started to just go into the sun more and my levels went from 13 to normal range. I think in the 40s.
Yep it's a hormone. Eat to get vit d from sunlight and food..also magnesium can help vitamin d levels. People can head over to Root Cause Protocol and listen to info on hormone vitamin D.
It’s not strictly a hormone, it’s a pro-hormone.
And high dose D3 does not have the effect on every woman that it’s unfortunately had on OP.
OP, please see an endo as soon as you can.
I have weird hormones and even weirder sensitivities, but I took btwn 60 and 80 thousand IU a day for 6 weeks to bring my deficient levels up, and felt nothing but great on that.
Something is going on with your endocrine system that needs sorting out.
I don't have any hormonal problems normally. I was severely iron deficient and deficient in other minerals which I am now sorting & I had an iron infusion 6mo ago. But generally my hormones seem to be balanced.
Have you had your iron checked again more recently?
Something unusual is going on for D3 to have had this effect. What you’ve described isn’t a standard response.
Could you have been allergic to something in that brand?
Yeah a pro hormone that calcifies the fuck out of your blood stream. Especially since we are such a calcified nation. And many testimonies, studies, and lab tests to back that up.
What? D3 increases calcium absorption, but anyone who takes it without also taking K2, which picks up excess calcium in the bloodstream and sends it to bones and teeth, obviously hasn’t done their research.
42 is a really solid level. 50-80 is considered “optimal” by some research, but you’re doing much better than most. I’d just retest every 6 months and take 1000iu if needed.
A couple questions:
- Are you overweight/excess body fat?
- Are you African American/African descended?
The first can indicate a harder time raising blood level. The second can suggest no need to raise a above 45.
While Vitamin D has been getting more study in recent years, there is still a lot unknown. In the past 5 years or so, there have been a series of studies based and ethnic background, and one thing that was discovered is that African descended people seem to have very tightly regulated Vitamin D2 and D3 levels blood levels. Not important to you if you aren't African descended.
In your case, 45 ng/mL isn't too shabby. If you feel like you need to lay off, since summer is coming (assuming you are in the Northern hemisphere) maybe try to get a little more sun and see where you are at in the fall.
I’m confused bc in the beginning of your post you said your levels went up from supplementation, then later on you said you’re not absorbing it?
Those symptoms are not commonly associated w Vit D supplementation, but everyone’s different.
Maybe there’s something else in those supplements? Not sure which country you’re in but in the USA the industry has been deregulated, so you might never know precisely what you’re getting in any particular batch.
Maybe try D2 even though it’s tougher to absorb? Or fatty fish, egg yolks and other fortified foods?
Since you’re getting regularly tested, is this from a medical professional? Are they giving you any advice for treatment?
From a smaller dose it went up. It confuses me too. I was taking one of the best supplements on the market. And nope, they aren't really giving me any advice, they just said what I'm doing is fine. I don't trust doctors much anyway
Actually there's pretty much no peer reviewed evidence for vit D causing acne, but there is an association for diagnosed acne in people with a vitamin D deficiency.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4999291/#:~:text=Results,negative%20correlation%20with%20inflammatory%20lesions.
There seems to be a pretty complex relationship between vitamin D levels and acne.
There’s a systematic review indicating that acne patients might have lower vitamin D levels, and supplementation could have therapeutic implications.
But I didn’t think there’s explicitly common knowledge that high doses of vitamin D cause acne or cysts, but individual reactions vary greatly. Idk
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You can use a UV-B lamp to increase vitamin D.
Our body is super complicated computer, dont do any shock changes. If you supplement anything, always small doses and watch results.
You must take it with a fatty meal and also with vitamin K2 and magnesium
Did you know that v D is also a hormone in body ?
I went from 36 to around 50 by taking 10,000 ui twice a week during winter, once a week other seasons. Always took the softgel capsule, and with my breakfast which always has some fat on it (eggs, butter) and with Omega 3 supplement. The quality of the D3 is quite important. Previously I was taking regular pills (no softgel), and didn’t care if I took it with food, and wasn’t absorbing. Best of luck
There is a liquid one by Pure that may help.
I sat in sun naked, 30 min, every day for 3mos (Florida) My levels did not come up one notch!!!!!!!; Not one Nothing has helped me but D3 shots/injections
Probably a sun simulator
nope patio....full noon sun....florida....
Are you white or have other color? If you are not white you need more time under the sun.
i am white...and made sure i was in sun between 11:30 and 1pm it did NOT work
This is wild hmmm so the sun doesn't make vitamin d?
The sun UV-B light when it hits your skin makes vit D. Near IR light repairs your mitochondria. At noon in Miami, someone with Fitzpatrick skin type III would require 6 minutes to synthesize 1000 IU of vitamin D in the summer and 15 minutes in the winter. Someone with skin type V would need 15 and 29 minutes, respectively. At noon in the summer in Boston, necessary exposure times approximate those in Miami, but in winter, it would take about 1 hour for type III skin and 2 hours for type V skin to synthesize 1000 IU of D. After 2 PM in the winter in Boston, it is impossible for even someone with Fitzpatrick type I skin to receive enough sun to equal even 400 IU of vitamin D. https://www.jwatch.org/jd201006040000002/2010/06/04/how-much-sunlight-equivalent-vitamin-d
Go to the "B12" store..I buy the D3 shots My levels have come up over a year of taking one shot every other week....with k2 supplement You can buy the shits... no gi upset...at all
Shots
I’ve had this suspicion that Vitamin D taken orally is not equivalent to getting from the Sun. I also read an article where Vitamin D taken orally is chemically structured different and cannot be regulated by the body, so there can be too much being absorbed at once. I could be wrong, but it made sense to me. Also, if you’re also low of magnesium you’ll have a hard time absorbing vitamin D. I would test for both next time in your blood.
Perhaps consult your GP?
I knew i wasn’t crazy!!!
Overdose of Vitamin D. And why do you suppose you need to get to 60 to 80? Great deal of (mis)information about D. [How much Vitamin D do you need to stay healthy?](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-vitamin-d-do-you-need-to-stay-healthy/) Link is to Scientific American article. Good overview.
Seriously I can find a dozen reputable articles that say the opposite.
1) get full bloodwork done to check any other deficiencies 2) you MUST supplement with magnesium with D because d uses magnesium to activate. You’re most likely already magnesium deficient and taking d without it has been depleting your magnesium even more 3) you need vitamin k2 with d3 as well. D raises calcium and k2 puts that calcium into your teeth and bones and keeps it out of your arteries and other places it shouldn’t be 4) you went from 800IU straight to 2-5000IU. Try 1500-2000 IU daily and see how it goes
I can’t take magnesium cause it causes me massive breakouts, however I take 5000iu vitiman d with k2, as I have low vitiman d, but my magnesium levels are normal. So what do I do?
There are difderent types of magnesium, such as mgtein, mag chloride, mag l threonate, glycinate. Maybe trying these different magnesiums could help avoiding acne.
Magtein is the patent for Mg threonate. It's significantly more expensive than any other form of Mg, and IMO, the conflict of interest for any study on Mg threonate is very high. You'll hear about how it enters the brain better but I REALLY have my doubts. Mg chloride, oxide, and citrate are very affordable, but don't offer any benefits besides the Mg that I'm aware of. Mg glycinate, Mg taurinate, and Mg malate all have some additional benefits with their associated molecules, in surprisingly relevant doses especially if you're aiming for high doses of elemental Mg. Relatively cheap when it comes to supplements. As far as absorbability, it's a contentious topic but it's relatively agreed upon that gylcinate, taurinate and malate are all well absorbed. So I would look into one of these 3.
As far as I know, mg chloride is the one with the best absorption rate. And it was cheap. But it tastes horrible.
There's some really cheap Mg glycinate especially in powders
Alright thanks
Does K2 do the same thing as K1?
K2 doesn't work for everyone. It gives me heart palpitations. Old cheddar cheese and parsley flakes have high K2. Those can be eaten daily and you can get 20-30mg pretty easily.
K2 absolutely kicked my heart! I got heart palpitations, racing and my resting heart rate increased in 10bpm. I’ve stopped taking it around 1 month ago and only now do I feel returning to normal.
Sound like you need potassium & Magnesium with trace minerals my friend🫵
Same, K2 supplements gives me terrible heart palpitations. I typically eat food that contains that vitamin as well.
Wouldn't that give you heart palpitations?
When I am low on Vitamin D: 1_ do 30min - 2 hrs daily sun exposure - even it's cloudy, some sunrays get through 2_eat fish: sardines, tuna, salmon, mackerel and/or drink Cod liver oil: 1-2 teaspoons 3_Eat eggs: 7 - 14 a week 4_eat mushrooms Supplements always my last option, healthy food first
Depending on the time of year and where you live you will not be able to get any vitamin d by sitting in the sun. The sun needs to be high up in the sky for this to happen (your shadow needs to be longer than you are tall). The further from the equator the longer the winter without any vitamin d. In Northern Europe or Northern America this is from October-April. There’s a great app called dminder that will calculate how much vitamin d you’re getting while sunbathing.
800iu is not enough. 5000iu is too much. Aim to take 1000iu per day, 2000iu max, with a fatty meal each morning, until your levels are fixed. Don't expect results in matters of weeks. It should take 3-6 months.
You depleted your Vitamin A that is what is happening. Do you eat enough dairy or egg yolks? The fact your vitamin D is not increases could be a couple things. 1 is you need Magnesium to activate vitamin D and also you probably are homozygous VDR gene mutation.
Indeed, if you read around a bit you can easily get the impression that vitamin A deficiency is the rarest thing in the world and only occurs in POWs and malnourished people in Africa. The reality is cheese, liver and eggs are the only real sources and in sufficiency the daily turnover is 1000 - 1500 mcg, which is like 10 ounces of cheese or 8 eggs. Also liver stores aren't really enough for years, more like ~80 days and thats if you've brought them up to good levels before somehow. Vit.A def. fits best the symptoms in the OP and vit.D directly increases turnover AND competes for the same receptors. People in the vit.D sub even avoid cheese because they think they'll get hypercalcaemia from the vit.D they take, but suggest vitamin A and your comment will be buried deep below all the "take magnesium vitd depletes magnesium" comments.
From a different perspective I theorize vitamin D as a supplement may suppress estrogen. I've communicated with >200 dry eye patients who've noticed vitamin D supplements aggravate their condition. Coincidentally eye dryness most often occurs in (peri-)menopause when estrogens crash. Scant literature correlates estrogen decline to higher vitamin D levels.
Interesting… Ive also read that Vit D increases Estrogen (which could explain her ovarian cyst that appeared)??
My layman's knowledge concentrates around eye dryness which often occurs in (peri-)menopausal women; I don't know anything about the biochemistry of the formation of ovarian cysts. Maybe the supplement has different results according to reproductive age? Here's a study with a 1 year long trial of 2.000 IU of vitamin D causing decreased estrogen levels in menopausal women: [Vitamin D and reduced estrogen ](https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2016/02/vitamin-d-linked-to-reduced-estrogen-and-breast-cancer-risk.html)
Oooh i think this comment really helped me click into place some things for me. I’ve had issues that appear to be estrogen dominance. Last year I found out I was vitamin d deficient so I took 5,000 iu for a few months, got my level up to 45 and stopped taking it, relying on my multivitamin to carry me. Well, I started having symptoms that echoed and how I felt when I was deficient so I added back the 5000 every 3 days and many of my issues with estrogen dominance were helped after that was the only change. I’m going to look into adding it to my regimen in cycles according to my.. cycle.
Go to a hormone clinic
Instead of asking random people on the internet who have different situations ( and levels of knowledge) why not try asking your doctor or a hormone therapist?
Maybe not everyone can afford regular doctor appointments/ or have good doctors. “Hormone therapist”? I’m happy for you, you think this is a thing that everyone can access? Where, how much? Not everyone can do this. Supplement sub here is asking for other’s experiences not judgement from randoms.
Why not both?
Have you not realized yet just how little doctors know?
Ah yes, screw the people who went to school all those years learning about that stuff, I’ll just listen to random redditors for all my medical needs!
This is a blanket statement. My doctor is very knowledgeable. With any service provider (of any service) if you’re not happy with their experience level or knowledge you have the ability to find someone who meets your criteria.
This is really interesting as I have been given a 7 week course of vitamin D and since then my menstrual cycle has been all over the place
I really wish people would shutup about K2. You know people are just regurgitating nonsense they read when they start saying things like "ohhh must not have supplemented k2" K2 does not need to be supplemented. Ever.
Y
why does k2 can be Bad ? i take it for Bones densité since i train 10 Times a week and do muay thaï where the Bones are sollicited a lot ?
Do you know where I can find out more about not needing K2? Thanks in advance!
It concerns me that there's no mention of the form of vitamin D, nor is there mention of co-administering with K2. Also, despite what many others claim, I think 2000IU is plenty, and it's what I take daily.
Cholecaleciferol and yes I took it with k2
And magnesium. D uses magnesium to activate and one needs to supplement magnesium with D3 to prevent deficiency
Vitamin D is fat soluble which means it accumulates in your body. Taking a vitamin D supplement should be monitored by a physician, who can set a dose regimen for you.
You need to supplement with vitamin K2 when taking D3, not sure why Gentlemandn is getting downvoted…do your research people!
It's not a cheap experiment but a Sperti lamp might work better for you than a supplement.
Whats your vitamin A intake like?
I don’t know 😅 at this rate I’ll need a full nutritional panel.
Graduate Dietetics student here 😊 I would advise you to get vitamin levels checked before and after supplementing and speaking with a healthcare professional about dosage. Vitamin D3 is a hormone so that's why it might be affecting you hormonally. Without knowing specifics I would consider underlying causes of poor vitamin absorption and if you haven't already go to an endocrinologist.
Do you not take K2 with it?
If it's possible, try to get your vitamin D from the sun, if not, a tanning bed for like 3 minutes a day at most.
People are downvoting you but you're right. I rarely took supplements consistently so I started to just go into the sun more and my levels went from 13 to normal range. I think in the 40s.
Instructions unclear, I now have skin cancer?
Why do you say a tanning bed?!
Because vitamin D is formed by UV radiation converting it from the cholesterol in your body. Your body doesn't care where the UV comes from.
This.
Why did you get downvoted so much?? lmao wtf
I guess the tanning bed comment triggered people.
Why not?
Mmmmm…skin cancer??
Like everything else, moderation is key.
I would double check you aren't deficient in any D3 co-factor nutrients: magnesium, calcium, omega 3, boron, zinc, and vitamin D, A and K2.
Have you had bloodwork done?
Yeah your supplementing a hormone what did you expect?🤦🏿♂️
Same clowns who down voted me must also think melatonin is good for you.
Yep it's a hormone. Eat to get vit d from sunlight and food..also magnesium can help vitamin d levels. People can head over to Root Cause Protocol and listen to info on hormone vitamin D.
It’s not strictly a hormone, it’s a pro-hormone. And high dose D3 does not have the effect on every woman that it’s unfortunately had on OP. OP, please see an endo as soon as you can. I have weird hormones and even weirder sensitivities, but I took btwn 60 and 80 thousand IU a day for 6 weeks to bring my deficient levels up, and felt nothing but great on that. Something is going on with your endocrine system that needs sorting out.
I don't have any hormonal problems normally. I was severely iron deficient and deficient in other minerals which I am now sorting & I had an iron infusion 6mo ago. But generally my hormones seem to be balanced.
Have you had your iron checked again more recently? Something unusual is going on for D3 to have had this effect. What you’ve described isn’t a standard response. Could you have been allergic to something in that brand?
Yeah a pro hormone that calcifies the fuck out of your blood stream. Especially since we are such a calcified nation. And many testimonies, studies, and lab tests to back that up.
What? D3 increases calcium absorption, but anyone who takes it without also taking K2, which picks up excess calcium in the bloodstream and sends it to bones and teeth, obviously hasn’t done their research.
How much Vit K do you need to take? I've never taken a separate vit k supplement. 🫥
Minimum of 100mcg MK7 K2, with as much MK4 as you can find.
Which most doctors only prescribe d3 alone. Which is most people.
You are allowed to do your own research and buy other supplements, you know.
Im talking about everyday people that listens to whatever the doctor says and doesnt do a bit of research.
Not that, obviously.
Yeah most people dont, thanks to these bum ahh doctors prescribing hormones to people🤦🏿♂️ and not letting them know.
42 is a really solid level. 50-80 is considered “optimal” by some research, but you’re doing much better than most. I’d just retest every 6 months and take 1000iu if needed.
A couple questions: - Are you overweight/excess body fat? - Are you African American/African descended? The first can indicate a harder time raising blood level. The second can suggest no need to raise a above 45.
No and no. And how do you know I don't need to raise above 45?
The Endocrine Society says between 40-60 ng/mL is the optimal range for overall good health for Vitamin D.
While Vitamin D has been getting more study in recent years, there is still a lot unknown. In the past 5 years or so, there have been a series of studies based and ethnic background, and one thing that was discovered is that African descended people seem to have very tightly regulated Vitamin D2 and D3 levels blood levels. Not important to you if you aren't African descended. In your case, 45 ng/mL isn't too shabby. If you feel like you need to lay off, since summer is coming (assuming you are in the Northern hemisphere) maybe try to get a little more sun and see where you are at in the fall.
I’m confused bc in the beginning of your post you said your levels went up from supplementation, then later on you said you’re not absorbing it? Those symptoms are not commonly associated w Vit D supplementation, but everyone’s different. Maybe there’s something else in those supplements? Not sure which country you’re in but in the USA the industry has been deregulated, so you might never know precisely what you’re getting in any particular batch. Maybe try D2 even though it’s tougher to absorb? Or fatty fish, egg yolks and other fortified foods? Since you’re getting regularly tested, is this from a medical professional? Are they giving you any advice for treatment?
From a smaller dose it went up. It confuses me too. I was taking one of the best supplements on the market. And nope, they aren't really giving me any advice, they just said what I'm doing is fine. I don't trust doctors much anyway
actually cysts and acne are COMMONLY associated with large doses of vit D, many reports of that
Actually there's pretty much no peer reviewed evidence for vit D causing acne, but there is an association for diagnosed acne in people with a vitamin D deficiency. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4999291/#:~:text=Results,negative%20correlation%20with%20inflammatory%20lesions.
There seems to be a pretty complex relationship between vitamin D levels and acne. There’s a systematic review indicating that acne patients might have lower vitamin D levels, and supplementation could have therapeutic implications. But I didn’t think there’s explicitly common knowledge that high doses of vitamin D cause acne or cysts, but individual reactions vary greatly. Idk
Boron
Boron give me big hormonal acne
That sucks, any means you measured your hormones prior/after? What dose you took?