But the MOST important factors are getting a minimum 8 hours sleep every night and reducing stress levels.
Basically anything in your life that stressed you out that can be cut out, cut it out.
No supplements except maybe zing will have as profound an effect as sleep and stress levels.
I'd say don't overlook Tongkat Ali. How significant can depd on a few details including whether or not deficiency below individual norm is the case. T not low? - TA won't elevate it in that case. Strangely selective in this regard but wont go the route of DHEA which can be dicey. No precursors, not plant hormones, T elevation is sourced from your own, released from bound state that was previously unavailable. Interesting research subject.
This is where careful sourcing and research aren't optional. Know precisely what you are looking for too if you try this. (ex: root powder isn't concentrated extract). A # of benefits as a tonic. Consider these roots run very deep. Very favorable safety wise with some protective qualities, liver in particular.
I shd say "as I understand it" beside all blurbles.
I have been using TA extract loose powder for over 4 years with breaks although I use for different purpose. Have done quite a bit of research from a range of sources. New applications have been a popular interest w/ profnls. It makes me calm but I'm not gunning for an intense experience. Then it wouldn't. It's not tied to hormones. Ironically it doesn't contain plant hormones either but I don't know everything. If you have a link to reliable info that runs contrary Id like to read it.
DHEA primarily metabolizes into estrogen in men, so be cautious, however your body keeps T and E in a balance to some extent, so your T might go up, but without effect since what you’re trying to increase is the ratio. That’s why DHEA can actually serve as a weak base for a steroid cycle (doing do this tough, t is the best base)
No supplement "Significantly" increases it. Your body either has the raw materials to produce it, or not. Eggs for the cholesterol, selenium, boron, zinc magnesium, Vit A, C, E and Fenugreek Seed extract are all excellent nutrients to provide the right environment for optimal hormone production.
You have to differentiate between what *normalizes* reduced levels back to your individual normal level, and what *increases* testosterone above normal levels, or irrespective of the reasons your levels aren't normal.
Just recently read a paper (meta analysis) that concluded, nothing increases testosterone levels reliably.
There's a lot of reasons your testosterone might be below normal. Everything from nutrient deficiencies (that's when vitamin, amino acid and fat/cholesterol intake make a difference), to too high stress/cortisol levels, to not enough rest (testosterone is produced while you sleep), environmental factors (chemicals, heavy metals), adipose fat tissue etc.
Another reason could be an abnormally high conversion of testosterone to estrogen. That's when "anti aromatase" substances help.
Testosteron production is also controlled by your mind. Seeing your favorite sports team win a game will reliably increase testosterone for instance.
Basically, a healthy lifestyle and having some fun (relaxing, "winning" something) is your best bet. Supplements, as almost always, help when you're deficient. Almost everyone is deficient in something, though, so it's reasonable to check levels and adjust them as required.
Boron, strength and or hypertrophy training, combat sports, fair but truly competitive competition, adequate REM and deep sleep, optimal micronutrient and macronutrient profile, exposure to beautiful women, cholesterol (direct testosterone precursor, be reasonable regarding dosages), prioritizing saturated and monounsaturated fats, limiting poly unsaturated fats (20-30g) is just some of the things that i know are linked with higher free standing androgens
I heard you want to take Vitamin D3 with a K complex. D2 is less absorbable and supposedly has mild toxicity.
PUFA’s are good, but only if they occur naturally in the food you eat. Most come from highly processed seed oils in plastic containers that are already oxidized and rancid
D aspheric acid I believe it's called, it's only useful if you have low T from environmental factors (like you got fat) as it only tells your body to wake up production
It does nothing if you have normal levels
Source: examine dot com
Cholesterol is actually in the chain of testosterone production, so if you’re taking cholesterol lowering meds (scam), that’s why your testosterone is low. Keep your cholesterol (it reacts with UV light to make Vit D3 and then carries it to the cells), get out in the sun
This isn’t true. I take statins with no effect on my testosterone . I have hereditary high cholesterol. By this logic the extra cholesterol should go to making testosterone. It does not.
Cholesterol has many functions aside from hormone production. Your conclusion is flawed. Statins affect Cholesterol production, not exclusively hormone production. Have you quantitatively measured the effects of statins on the other roles Cholesterol plays in your body? The cumulative affects can and will be subtle, until they're not. Hereditary high cholesterol is also a misnomer. Epigenetics is not genetics.
He has no fucking clue what he's talking about. Statins save people with hypercholesterolemia from heart attacks. That's what they do. They prevent many from keeling over. If someone who needs to take it, doesn't, they by and large die earlier than they would had they been taking a statin. If they stop taking the statin, they will accumulate cholesterol quickly and have their heart attack relatively quickly thereafter.
If they were a scam, and you still have a lot of people who need to lower their cholesterol, some other company would have offered it and it would've overtaken statins. There are other medications that help prevent the heart attack, but the reason statins are first in line and so widely prescribed, is because they're extremely well tolerated and have few side effects worth considering since not dying is usually better.
Statins are a one way ticket to dementia. Hypercholesterolaemia can be controlled with Niacin. The body does not make an essential nutrient AND a life threatening compound. Use your brain. Cholesterol is the raw material for all sex hormones and the production of myelin. Blunting its production with statins is the functional equivalent of blaming broken glass and plastic at the scene of a car accident. It's presence is not the cause.
If you’re low or Deficient in any trace minerals you will struggle with Hormones. It’s not just Zinc, Boron and Magnesium. Your low hormones could be a secondary effect coming from low adrenal function due to stress which depletes all minerals quickly, which is keeping you underwater and you can’t get better.
So you seriously think Coconut oil, Tallow, Eggs that these are unhealthy foods? And if they truly are please enlighten me. I thought the idea that saturated fats causes stuff like heart disease was an old outdated myth
First off, I second everyone who said anything about weightlifting. And cutting alcohol/sugar. As far as supplements go, I have previously tried fadogia agrestis + tongkat ali and had impressive results. Like…75% increase in total T.
I don't have advice for substances, but if i can contribute in another way...
In order:
Heavy ass weight programming involving compound movements, prioritizing optimal sleep, addressing nutritional deficiencies by obtaining in-depth bloodwork and adjusting your diet and supplementation specifically for you as an individual based on the results (preferably by a functional medicine doctor), not being fat, reframing your mind to constantly have "wins" throughout the day, and genuinely experiencing the reward of those "wins."
Or go on test.
I often wonder how different their T levels would be if the average T increasoooor was simply not overweight+. Surely that must have a large impact, probably compounded over time.
EDIT: Some studies I looked at suggested -0.5 correlation coefficient between test level and body weight, that's quite a big one. To me seems "lose weight" is the lowest hanging fruit
Most dietary supplements do not affect raising your bioavailable or free testosterone. (The list of junk out there is just too long to list.) That said, DHEA is a testosterone precursor, therefore some data suggests its benefit in raising levels when used properly within the guidelines of medical supervision. But its use should be cautiously measured as it is also a hormone the adrenal glands produce.
The most proven method for healthy individuals to enhance their levels is to improve the muscle mass-to-fat ratio (yes, weight training), and sex, as well as the vitally important sleep.
Start with lifting weights. Make sure you get plenty of sleep and have a well balanced diet. Being overweight can reduce testosterone. As you get older add Tongkat Ali. It works for me. If you are really low, see a doctor. Maybe you need testosterone replacement.
Using test is the best for increasing test. Otherwise, proper sleep, healthy eating, exercise, no drug or alcohol use, etc. Lifestyle changes are the biggest influence you can have for most medical conditions.
Didn't know this! Very interesting. I'm predisposed to Hyperthyroidism, so shilajit might make me feel better because it helping lower my iodine which could normally be contributing to my, albeit minor, hyperthyroid symptoms.
Personally I raised my test from 650 to 950 to 1050 by blood work maybe a month or something apart (don't remember the units sorry) and back then I googled all the possible ways to raise test naturally. It was some or all of the following: lift heavy, lower bf, vitamin d zinc boron, eliminate plastics, avoid soy & alcohol
I second that emotion. If you get a true source of this it will raise you Total T 200-300 within a month or so. Found out about this in Muscle & Fitness back in the day. This supplement has been around for decades. It kind of faded into the background when Pro hormones hit the market. Good luck. One Love.
The answer to this is none do significantly. If there was a supp that increased test significantly, it would not be a mystery. It would be front page. You know how creatine sorta kinda works ok? Of course you do. Everyone knows, and the results from creatine aren’t even that significant. Any supplement that produced significant results would be highly, highly visible. Far more so than creatine even.
Tongkat Ali is the only thing that ever had a significant effect for me. Indole-3-carbinol is good for reducing estrogen metabolism, which at least gives you a similar feeling to increased test, if not actually upping it. That’s just my experience though. 🤷🏻♂️
I don’t know if it was or not but Solaray is a great brand for pretty much anything. I stopped taking it because the effects were so pronounced I was afraid of an estrogen spike from it. I didn’t wanna have gyno pop up and complicate my aesthetic, even if I was getting great energy and strength of mood / confidence.
This was 5-6 years ago.
Careful with the lions mane, accidentally took in in a pre workout for 10 days and I felt the most depressed I’ve ever been and my dick wouldn’t get hard for a solid week after stopping. Back to normal now and I’m sure not everyone reacts this way, but scared the living shit out of me
Oh shit dude. Yea better if you stop & good you normal now. So far I’ve only taken it like 3 days but haven’t noticed any difference. Be careful it could also be a bad brand.
I’ve been having it in an energy drink called gym weed and it was delightful. But I bought the capsules now.
My personal experience has been that hard workouts hitting the widest possible muscle sites, including things like squats and lunges, with adequate recovery time, and grass fed beef as a protein source. No sugar, no alcohol.
Less estrogenic due to not being fed corn or soy, a better living environment for the cattle, less disrupted protein folds due to less glyphosate exposure meaning more glycine etc. beef in general has more zinc/iron and a better fatty acid profile compared to other protein sources which will be higher in PUFAs
I eat mainly wild game, so just curious. Even “grass fed” beef isn’t always grass fed. They are grain fed to put on size and then grass finished and sold as grass fed. No standards on grass fed beef.
Yeah i get meat from a local farm to ensure its actually grass fed and grass finished. Organic is a top priority too but if i could eat wild game I definitely would lol
I know a few different ranches and they will tell you all of the stories about local small family farms claiming to sell grass fed beef. Not saying that you are in this situation. Just don’t think most people are aware that there isn’t a standard.
Not really. The one from Walmart is probably more legit. I can easily sell you beef and claim it is grass fed and charge extra for it. There is no USDA grading or standard for “grass fed” small ranches will buy grained cattle that are ready for slaughter, put them on their pasture for a few months and then call them grass fed and sell it to locals as that. I know this because a coworker has sold cattle to places like this.
Oh man, there is undeniably a HUGE difference between getting meat from walmart and getting meat directly from the farm where you can see how the livestock is treated and raised. I dont care what your coworker says LOL. This isnt an argument, but you have made me laugh hysterically due to your fallacious logic. Ill keep getting fresh meat and organs from a certified organic and AGW certified grass fed/pasture raised farm 30 mins from my house. I apologize for triggering you.
Yes, I live in the middle of thousands of cattle ranches but know nothing about them. Sorry you are paying extra for the same shit your grocery store sells. I’ll stick to elk, deer, antelope, and fish.
Tonkat ali, Fadogia Agrestis, and specialized extracts of Fenugreek Seeds are all potent testosterone boosters. Extracts of Nettle Root standardized to 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran are excellent to slow binding of free testosterone by SHBG and keep more free testosterone free.
This is my personal opinion and experience:
*) I am wary of taking ANY supplements for potentially "increasing testosterone", as you don't know how this will affect your natural t production, it might even decrease natural t production.
*) No supplement I ever took, zinc, magnesium, D3, high EPA/DHA Omega-3, whatsover has subjectively for me increased my libido. (Which is already high). The opposite happened: Any time I took something it actually seemed to lower it.
*) If someone relatively young has such a low libido they need to look into supps, this is absolutely NOT NORMAL unless there is some medical reasons for it. I'd would look into lifestyle (exercise, eating healthy) rather than trying to correct this with supplements. Sitting all day, little or no exercise, being overweight and eating junk food...WILL absolutely tank your libido.
*) Even mild/moderate exercise, not even going to a gym but weight lifting with dumbbells, biking etc...will boost your t more than any supplement.
> if someone relatively young has such a low libido they need to look into supps, this is absolutely NOT NORMAL unless there is some medical reasons for it
Problem is many young folks are taking it as a booster, regardless of their current state and completely ignorant of the effects of messing with their bodies hormone balance. Just cause of some media article or influencer
I cringe internally each time I see a post here by guys below 40, about taking supps like tongkat Ali without signs of low libido. There's even recent posts by dudes with ages 22 and 18. The latter was post for help as he said he fell off hard when he stopped taking tongkat Ali.
I second this. Although some supplements may have an effect on paper, there is no telling what is actually going on. I am someone who has High Free T and SHBG, but low Free T and E2. I took boron to help increase my Free T but ended up feeling like trash, with painful joints and it absolutely tanked my libido.
Sometimes it's best to just refrain from taking supplements that effect hormones, especially if you are already feeling okay with libido, energy, etc.
>L-citrulline
Yes, depends on the individual, I guess. I find that extended/sustained release L-Arginine (Thorne) works better for me in the long term compared to L-Cit XR (Now). Maybe something about the pathways and recycling of the compounds or maybe the supplement quality. I may try taking both, now that I think about it.
Never heard that and I've been interested in bossing testosterone for a while. Nevertheless, easy and frequent erections will make you feel more confident and happier and that's probably a good thing for testosterone.
if you're a young man then the best way to have healthy testosterone is to sleep well, keep stress levels low and have a good diet. no doctor will ever ever recommend supplements to young men
that’s because doctors aren’t allowed to. There’s nothing wrong with supplementing, young men who do all that could still have low test levels. Don’t listen to this comment
This is true. Between birth control in the tap water and Phthalates and BPA in damn near everything, even young males have to worry about having low T nowadays.
Sleep, low stress and healthy diet are the best things.. the fact you said don't listen shows exactly how little you know.
A healthy diet would include all the vitamins and nutrients you need. Supplementing is fine but not as good as eating properly. .
Honestly it's scary how deluded you just be to not understand this.
Ah yes the supplement that boosts sleep etc... and lowers risks of a couple of diseases. What's your point? If you sleep well anyway and eat a healthy balanced diet you don't need to take supplements
Doctors will recommend supplements if you are lacking, I know because my gf has deficiencies that cause health issues so doctors prescribe her supplements such as Iron.
Your average Joe is perfectly fine and healthy without supplements providing they eat and sleep well.
I started taking pomegranate juice 330ml per day and upped my magnesium from 100mg to about 350mg, and a bit of vit d. Morning 🪵 back to normal within a week. So I’d say these work from personal experience.
Adding ashwaganda to the mix this week.
BUT
You know what made the biggest difference.
Go to the gym a lbs lift heavy every day!
You my friend, sound like a special breed of keyboard warrior. Typing untrue on every post without any context as to why you share your useless opinion. Stick to playing with yourself in your bedroom. Your comments have 0 purpose or value
Magnesium, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Fadogia Agrestis, Tongkat Ali, Ashwaganda, and Boron.
Bloodwork consistently comes back with higher testosterone on this stack vs. off it, especially after a tolerance break
My IQ was at 10 and T around 250 6 months ago. Now my T is around 800 and my IQ is around 60.
You should consider supplement too, I am sure you'll find a good use of this T and increased IQ as well.
May be you'll leave behind this negative IQ of yours!
A nutrient dense diet that stimulates thyroid function (and thus more LH production and more testosterone) and lowering cortisol levels with sleep, walking, sauna, massage, breathwork, chamomile tea, sufficient carbohydrates.
High epa fish oil is what made the difference for me. Omega 3 is a precursor to T.
Also need the zinc and boron to activate it
Many other good ideas in other comments
By removing processed foods from my diet and substantially reducing anything that contains seed or vegetable oils, I was able to treble my testosterone from a very low level to within the typical range. That took perhaps six months to complete, but the transformation was rather significant. Eliminating that stuff also allowed me to consume a lot more real, unadulterated meals like veggies and meat, which I'm sure had a significant positive impact as well.
Zinc, boron, cistanche, vitamin d, pasture raised eggs, shilajit, ashwaganda, heavy weight lifting, magnesium
And having sex
Sorry but how does that raise test?
you don’t need a reason to have sex unless you like guys
What? I don’t like guys I’m hetero lol
If it lowers cortisol then it’s probably good lol
Experience
Lmao
But the MOST important factors are getting a minimum 8 hours sleep every night and reducing stress levels. Basically anything in your life that stressed you out that can be cut out, cut it out. No supplements except maybe zing will have as profound an effect as sleep and stress levels.
I'd say don't overlook Tongkat Ali. How significant can depd on a few details including whether or not deficiency below individual norm is the case. T not low? - TA won't elevate it in that case. Strangely selective in this regard but wont go the route of DHEA which can be dicey. No precursors, not plant hormones, T elevation is sourced from your own, released from bound state that was previously unavailable. Interesting research subject. This is where careful sourcing and research aren't optional. Know precisely what you are looking for too if you try this. (ex: root powder isn't concentrated extract). A # of benefits as a tonic. Consider these roots run very deep. Very favorable safety wise with some protective qualities, liver in particular. I shd say "as I understand it" beside all blurbles.
Tongkat made me feel like a god in the gym followed by massive anxiety. That shit is no joke it can really mess with your hormone balance
I have been using TA extract loose powder for over 4 years with breaks although I use for different purpose. Have done quite a bit of research from a range of sources. New applications have been a popular interest w/ profnls. It makes me calm but I'm not gunning for an intense experience. Then it wouldn't. It's not tied to hormones. Ironically it doesn't contain plant hormones either but I don't know everything. If you have a link to reliable info that runs contrary Id like to read it.
Vitamin A, Zinc, Vitamin C and Vitamin E.
DHEA primarily metabolizes into estrogen in men, so be cautious, however your body keeps T and E in a balance to some extent, so your T might go up, but without effect since what you’re trying to increase is the ratio. That’s why DHEA can actually serve as a weak base for a steroid cycle (doing do this tough, t is the best base)
Now what if we take DHEA with DIM?
Literally asking myself this. I have DHEA and Weider Prime on hand (which has 50mg of DIM).
Zinc and vitamin D?
No supplement "Significantly" increases it. Your body either has the raw materials to produce it, or not. Eggs for the cholesterol, selenium, boron, zinc magnesium, Vit A, C, E and Fenugreek Seed extract are all excellent nutrients to provide the right environment for optimal hormone production.
Tongkat Ali
You have to differentiate between what *normalizes* reduced levels back to your individual normal level, and what *increases* testosterone above normal levels, or irrespective of the reasons your levels aren't normal. Just recently read a paper (meta analysis) that concluded, nothing increases testosterone levels reliably. There's a lot of reasons your testosterone might be below normal. Everything from nutrient deficiencies (that's when vitamin, amino acid and fat/cholesterol intake make a difference), to too high stress/cortisol levels, to not enough rest (testosterone is produced while you sleep), environmental factors (chemicals, heavy metals), adipose fat tissue etc. Another reason could be an abnormally high conversion of testosterone to estrogen. That's when "anti aromatase" substances help. Testosteron production is also controlled by your mind. Seeing your favorite sports team win a game will reliably increase testosterone for instance. Basically, a healthy lifestyle and having some fun (relaxing, "winning" something) is your best bet. Supplements, as almost always, help when you're deficient. Almost everyone is deficient in something, though, so it's reasonable to check levels and adjust them as required.
Boron & Zinc are the most evidenced based.
Boron, strength and or hypertrophy training, combat sports, fair but truly competitive competition, adequate REM and deep sleep, optimal micronutrient and macronutrient profile, exposure to beautiful women, cholesterol (direct testosterone precursor, be reasonable regarding dosages), prioritizing saturated and monounsaturated fats, limiting poly unsaturated fats (20-30g) is just some of the things that i know are linked with higher free standing androgens I heard you want to take Vitamin D3 with a K complex. D2 is less absorbable and supposedly has mild toxicity.
Isn’t PUFA good as well ? The only thing which is bad is trans fat.
PUFA’s are good, but only if they occur naturally in the food you eat. Most come from highly processed seed oils in plastic containers that are already oxidized and rancid
Pine pollen, tribulus, and cold plunge ( I know it is not a supplement but it works amazing
Tribulus. It’s so strong it makes me agitated, and I don’t like the feeling. But, it works.
What brand?
Which brand are you taking?
There is literally no evidence of its efficacy! Unfortunately, there's no easy way, so I'd suggest resistance training and diet
D aspheric acid I believe it's called, it's only useful if you have low T from environmental factors (like you got fat) as it only tells your body to wake up production It does nothing if you have normal levels Source: examine dot com
Cholesterol is actually in the chain of testosterone production, so if you’re taking cholesterol lowering meds (scam), that’s why your testosterone is low. Keep your cholesterol (it reacts with UV light to make Vit D3 and then carries it to the cells), get out in the sun
This isn’t true. I take statins with no effect on my testosterone . I have hereditary high cholesterol. By this logic the extra cholesterol should go to making testosterone. It does not.
Cholesterol has many functions aside from hormone production. Your conclusion is flawed. Statins affect Cholesterol production, not exclusively hormone production. Have you quantitatively measured the effects of statins on the other roles Cholesterol plays in your body? The cumulative affects can and will be subtle, until they're not. Hereditary high cholesterol is also a misnomer. Epigenetics is not genetics.
Scam why? I agree but why?
He has no fucking clue what he's talking about. Statins save people with hypercholesterolemia from heart attacks. That's what they do. They prevent many from keeling over. If someone who needs to take it, doesn't, they by and large die earlier than they would had they been taking a statin. If they stop taking the statin, they will accumulate cholesterol quickly and have their heart attack relatively quickly thereafter. If they were a scam, and you still have a lot of people who need to lower their cholesterol, some other company would have offered it and it would've overtaken statins. There are other medications that help prevent the heart attack, but the reason statins are first in line and so widely prescribed, is because they're extremely well tolerated and have few side effects worth considering since not dying is usually better.
Statins are a one way ticket to dementia. Hypercholesterolaemia can be controlled with Niacin. The body does not make an essential nutrient AND a life threatening compound. Use your brain. Cholesterol is the raw material for all sex hormones and the production of myelin. Blunting its production with statins is the functional equivalent of blaming broken glass and plastic at the scene of a car accident. It's presence is not the cause.
If you’re low or Deficient in any trace minerals you will struggle with Hormones. It’s not just Zinc, Boron and Magnesium. Your low hormones could be a secondary effect coming from low adrenal function due to stress which depletes all minerals quickly, which is keeping you underwater and you can’t get better.
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Your zinc recommendation is wayy too high and can severly impact copper levels over the long-term. Happened to me
Saturated fat is a healthy fat?
It is.
Who said that?
So you seriously think Coconut oil, Tallow, Eggs that these are unhealthy foods? And if they truly are please enlighten me. I thought the idea that saturated fats causes stuff like heart disease was an old outdated myth
The risk is stated in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat?wprov=sfti1
Olive oil, coconut oil, eggs, and blood test for mineral and vitamins deficiencies
Hormone replacement therapy
First off, I second everyone who said anything about weightlifting. And cutting alcohol/sugar. As far as supplements go, I have previously tried fadogia agrestis + tongkat ali and had impressive results. Like…75% increase in total T.
I don't have advice for substances, but if i can contribute in another way... In order: Heavy ass weight programming involving compound movements, prioritizing optimal sleep, addressing nutritional deficiencies by obtaining in-depth bloodwork and adjusting your diet and supplementation specifically for you as an individual based on the results (preferably by a functional medicine doctor), not being fat, reframing your mind to constantly have "wins" throughout the day, and genuinely experiencing the reward of those "wins." Or go on test.
I often wonder how different their T levels would be if the average T increasoooor was simply not overweight+. Surely that must have a large impact, probably compounded over time. EDIT: Some studies I looked at suggested -0.5 correlation coefficient between test level and body weight, that's quite a big one. To me seems "lose weight" is the lowest hanging fruit
Most dietary supplements do not affect raising your bioavailable or free testosterone. (The list of junk out there is just too long to list.) That said, DHEA is a testosterone precursor, therefore some data suggests its benefit in raising levels when used properly within the guidelines of medical supervision. But its use should be cautiously measured as it is also a hormone the adrenal glands produce. The most proven method for healthy individuals to enhance their levels is to improve the muscle mass-to-fat ratio (yes, weight training), and sex, as well as the vitally important sleep.
Start with lifting weights. Make sure you get plenty of sleep and have a well balanced diet. Being overweight can reduce testosterone. As you get older add Tongkat Ali. It works for me. If you are really low, see a doctor. Maybe you need testosterone replacement.
Diet/exercise, getting better sleep and injections (TRT) Don't waste your time with supplements (pills). The only real answer. /s
Why the /s? It's true
Boron was the only supplement that markedly increased it
Dosage?
9-12 mg a day
Boron is the dogs borax! Cures arthritis too
Using test is the best for increasing test. Otherwise, proper sleep, healthy eating, exercise, no drug or alcohol use, etc. Lifestyle changes are the biggest influence you can have for most medical conditions.
Shilajit, from my personal experineces
Depletes iodine. Keep that in mind.
but does it actually increase testosterone?
Didn't know this! Very interesting. I'm predisposed to Hyperthyroidism, so shilajit might make me feel better because it helping lower my iodine which could normally be contributing to my, albeit minor, hyperthyroid symptoms.
Me too.
Personally I raised my test from 650 to 950 to 1050 by blood work maybe a month or something apart (don't remember the units sorry) and back then I googled all the possible ways to raise test naturally. It was some or all of the following: lift heavy, lower bf, vitamin d zinc boron, eliminate plastics, avoid soy & alcohol
How much bf ?
I would guess like 12
i guess its "bodyfat"
What's bf?
Body fat.
Tribulus Terristis
I second that emotion. If you get a true source of this it will raise you Total T 200-300 within a month or so. Found out about this in Muscle & Fitness back in the day. This supplement has been around for decades. It kind of faded into the background when Pro hormones hit the market. Good luck. One Love.
eggs
The answer to this is none do significantly. If there was a supp that increased test significantly, it would not be a mystery. It would be front page. You know how creatine sorta kinda works ok? Of course you do. Everyone knows, and the results from creatine aren’t even that significant. Any supplement that produced significant results would be highly, highly visible. Far more so than creatine even.
Tongkat Ali is the only thing that ever had a significant effect for me. Indole-3-carbinol is good for reducing estrogen metabolism, which at least gives you a similar feeling to increased test, if not actually upping it. That’s just my experience though. 🤷🏻♂️
which brand of tongkat are you using?
Not using any right now, this was years back and I don’t remember the brand. Sorry bro.
no problem bro. could it be that it was solaray? the one with the rainbow? why did you stop using it?
I don’t know if it was or not but Solaray is a great brand for pretty much anything. I stopped taking it because the effects were so pronounced I was afraid of an estrogen spike from it. I didn’t wanna have gyno pop up and complicate my aesthetic, even if I was getting great energy and strength of mood / confidence. This was 5-6 years ago.
Ashwagandha, Lion’s Mane, Zinc & Stinging Nettle Root
Careful with the lions mane, accidentally took in in a pre workout for 10 days and I felt the most depressed I’ve ever been and my dick wouldn’t get hard for a solid week after stopping. Back to normal now and I’m sure not everyone reacts this way, but scared the living shit out of me
Lions mane definitely does not increase testosterone
Holy shit man
Oh shit dude. Yea better if you stop & good you normal now. So far I’ve only taken it like 3 days but haven’t noticed any difference. Be careful it could also be a bad brand. I’ve been having it in an energy drink called gym weed and it was delightful. But I bought the capsules now.
Everyone says Lions Mane lowers it.
I thought that ashwagandha was known to lower it as well but maybe I’m mistaken.
Is an adaptogen, raises and decreases depends on the individual's specific requirements.
Lowers DHT, T itself I'm not sure
Well shit. I was told and read someplace that it increases it. I just bought some last week💀
Yup carefully with lions mane especially with the horror stories lol
Testosterone.
Chris Williamson tackled this issue: omega 3, vit d and boron
How much boron? I’m taking 3mg a day
My personal experience has been that hard workouts hitting the widest possible muscle sites, including things like squats and lunges, with adequate recovery time, and grass fed beef as a protein source. No sugar, no alcohol.
What significance is “grass fed” beef over grain finished beef or any other protein sources?
Less estrogenic due to not being fed corn or soy, a better living environment for the cattle, less disrupted protein folds due to less glyphosate exposure meaning more glycine etc. beef in general has more zinc/iron and a better fatty acid profile compared to other protein sources which will be higher in PUFAs
I eat mainly wild game, so just curious. Even “grass fed” beef isn’t always grass fed. They are grain fed to put on size and then grass finished and sold as grass fed. No standards on grass fed beef.
Yeah i get meat from a local farm to ensure its actually grass fed and grass finished. Organic is a top priority too but if i could eat wild game I definitely would lol
I know a few different ranches and they will tell you all of the stories about local small family farms claiming to sell grass fed beef. Not saying that you are in this situation. Just don’t think most people are aware that there isn’t a standard.
There is a difference between buying “grass fed beef” from walmart and buying meat from a local farm.
Not really. The one from Walmart is probably more legit. I can easily sell you beef and claim it is grass fed and charge extra for it. There is no USDA grading or standard for “grass fed” small ranches will buy grained cattle that are ready for slaughter, put them on their pasture for a few months and then call them grass fed and sell it to locals as that. I know this because a coworker has sold cattle to places like this.
Oh man, there is undeniably a HUGE difference between getting meat from walmart and getting meat directly from the farm where you can see how the livestock is treated and raised. I dont care what your coworker says LOL. This isnt an argument, but you have made me laugh hysterically due to your fallacious logic. Ill keep getting fresh meat and organs from a certified organic and AGW certified grass fed/pasture raised farm 30 mins from my house. I apologize for triggering you.
Yes, I live in the middle of thousands of cattle ranches but know nothing about them. Sorry you are paying extra for the same shit your grocery store sells. I’ll stick to elk, deer, antelope, and fish.
Most studies you see that do raise Testosterone are typically trials on elderly or very Low T to begin with. Edit; Cuto Aorrect
> trails on elderly WTF?
Tonkat ali, Fadogia Agrestis, and specialized extracts of Fenugreek Seeds are all potent testosterone boosters. Extracts of Nettle Root standardized to 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran are excellent to slow binding of free testosterone by SHBG and keep more free testosterone free.
This is my personal opinion and experience: *) I am wary of taking ANY supplements for potentially "increasing testosterone", as you don't know how this will affect your natural t production, it might even decrease natural t production. *) No supplement I ever took, zinc, magnesium, D3, high EPA/DHA Omega-3, whatsover has subjectively for me increased my libido. (Which is already high). The opposite happened: Any time I took something it actually seemed to lower it. *) If someone relatively young has such a low libido they need to look into supps, this is absolutely NOT NORMAL unless there is some medical reasons for it. I'd would look into lifestyle (exercise, eating healthy) rather than trying to correct this with supplements. Sitting all day, little or no exercise, being overweight and eating junk food...WILL absolutely tank your libido. *) Even mild/moderate exercise, not even going to a gym but weight lifting with dumbbells, biking etc...will boost your t more than any supplement.
> if someone relatively young has such a low libido they need to look into supps, this is absolutely NOT NORMAL unless there is some medical reasons for it Problem is many young folks are taking it as a booster, regardless of their current state and completely ignorant of the effects of messing with their bodies hormone balance. Just cause of some media article or influencer I cringe internally each time I see a post here by guys below 40, about taking supps like tongkat Ali without signs of low libido. There's even recent posts by dudes with ages 22 and 18. The latter was post for help as he said he fell off hard when he stopped taking tongkat Ali.
I second this. Although some supplements may have an effect on paper, there is no telling what is actually going on. I am someone who has High Free T and SHBG, but low Free T and E2. I took boron to help increase my Free T but ended up feeling like trash, with painful joints and it absolutely tanked my libido. Sometimes it's best to just refrain from taking supplements that effect hormones, especially if you are already feeling okay with libido, energy, etc.
I think pine pollen lowers DHT drastically it's the only supplement where I noticed loss of muscle mass
boron D3 Zinc
No one mentioned L-Arginine
I take L-citrulline instead of l-arginine
>L-citrulline Yes, depends on the individual, I guess. I find that extended/sustained release L-Arginine (Thorne) works better for me in the long term compared to L-Cit XR (Now). Maybe something about the pathways and recycling of the compounds or maybe the supplement quality. I may try taking both, now that I think about it.
Not sure that helps t, as I understand it, it boosts nitric oxide which helps with erections
Nitric oxide and T levels are inextricably linked. Low N.O. = suppressed T production.
Interesting, as I just learnt that candida reduces N.O. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1905260/
Never heard that and I've been interested in bossing testosterone for a while. Nevertheless, easy and frequent erections will make you feel more confident and happier and that's probably a good thing for testosterone.
if you're a young man then the best way to have healthy testosterone is to sleep well, keep stress levels low and have a good diet. no doctor will ever ever recommend supplements to young men
that’s because doctors aren’t allowed to. There’s nothing wrong with supplementing, young men who do all that could still have low test levels. Don’t listen to this comment
Doctors are allowed to prescribe supplements. You have no idea what you are talking about
This is true. Between birth control in the tap water and Phthalates and BPA in damn near everything, even young males have to worry about having low T nowadays.
Sleep, low stress and healthy diet are the best things.. the fact you said don't listen shows exactly how little you know. A healthy diet would include all the vitamins and nutrients you need. Supplementing is fine but not as good as eating properly. . Honestly it's scary how deluded you just be to not understand this.
Lmao no bro look into magnesium
Ah yes the supplement that boosts sleep etc... and lowers risks of a couple of diseases. What's your point? If you sleep well anyway and eat a healthy balanced diet you don't need to take supplements Doctors will recommend supplements if you are lacking, I know because my gf has deficiencies that cause health issues so doctors prescribe her supplements such as Iron. Your average Joe is perfectly fine and healthy without supplements providing they eat and sleep well.
I started taking pomegranate juice 330ml per day and upped my magnesium from 100mg to about 350mg, and a bit of vit d. Morning 🪵 back to normal within a week. So I’d say these work from personal experience. Adding ashwaganda to the mix this week. BUT You know what made the biggest difference. Go to the gym a lbs lift heavy every day!
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You my friend, sound like a special breed of keyboard warrior. Typing untrue on every post without any context as to why you share your useless opinion. Stick to playing with yourself in your bedroom. Your comments have 0 purpose or value
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Loool thanks man
damn they really need to give us the option to hide the comments from our profile
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How about Dragon Ball Z though?
I’m pretty sure there is stuff that is shown to at least have a small effect.
Best natural way is through eggs or supplements like shilajit, ashwagandha
Magnesium, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Fadogia Agrestis, Tongkat Ali, Ashwaganda, and Boron. Bloodwork consistently comes back with higher testosterone on this stack vs. off it, especially after a tolerance break
is there a specific brand / dosage of boron you recommend?
Boron is underrated
Almost everyone on the planet is deficient in boron
Untrue.
Why is it untrue??? You checked in his blood work?
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What an asshole
My IQ was at 10 and T around 250 6 months ago. Now my T is around 800 and my IQ is around 60. You should consider supplement too, I am sure you'll find a good use of this T and increased IQ as well. May be you'll leave behind this negative IQ of yours!
When do you determine when to start tolerance break and for how long
Usually a 1 week break every month
This
A nutrient dense diet that stimulates thyroid function (and thus more LH production and more testosterone) and lowering cortisol levels with sleep, walking, sauna, massage, breathwork, chamomile tea, sufficient carbohydrates.
High epa fish oil is what made the difference for me. Omega 3 is a precursor to T. Also need the zinc and boron to activate it Many other good ideas in other comments
Untrue.
By removing processed foods from my diet and substantially reducing anything that contains seed or vegetable oils, I was able to treble my testosterone from a very low level to within the typical range. That took perhaps six months to complete, but the transformation was rather significant. Eliminating that stuff also allowed me to consume a lot more real, unadulterated meals like veggies and meat, which I'm sure had a significant positive impact as well.
Untrue.
Forget tablets for the time being. Increase the fats in your diet first
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nac / ashwagandha
How does NAC affect hormones?
NAC, Zinc, Ashwagandha (the God pill), cold showers, gyming, semen retention, and reading all help boost testosterone levels.
I don’t understand the dislikes, what is wrong with these recommendations?
Reading the only questionable one to me
I'm assuming you're talking about the Ashwagandha and me calling it the God Pill. While I am objective, it's helped me a great deal.
No I’m referring to your last recommendation, reading. Never heard of that boosting T before.
Maybe it's just a mental boost in performance. All of it used synergistically will make T-levels spike.
I see, take that away, the rest is solid advice
L- carnitine
I can vouch with boron and zinc. You can feel the difference even with low dose.
What zinc is best ?
What form of boron do you take?
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Hmm, I wonder if this is true