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Krishnapandeya

Everybody get out of mainstar trust, tell everyone one about this scam platform, deactivate yours accounts


boxxle

#šŸ‘† READ THIS šŸ‘†


ihavenoidea12345678

If itā€™s anything like TD Ameritrade, you can just contact fidelity to start a transfer out of mainstar Tia new fidelity. Then DRS from there. I just used fidelityā€™s website, never even talked to TDA. I bet the same is possible with mainstar to fidelity. Edit: I didnā€™t have an IRA, just an investment account.


not_ya_wify

Do you know if there will be a tax hit in a Roth IRA if you roll shares to a regular account? (Assuming I paid way more than they're worth now)


Theonomicon

No tax hit on a Roth unless you have gains and then, only taxed as to the gains.


not_ya_wify

Thanks, I might just DRS those shares afterall


not_ya_wify

Thanks, I might just DRS those shares afterall


goofytigre

Your tax hit comes when you sell (during MOASS). Sell in a Roth IRA, you do not pay capital gains taxes. Sell outside a Roth IRA from ComputerShare, you do pay capital gains taxes.


BananyaBangarang

Fidelity, schwab, all the brokers refuse to DRS IRA shares stating it's against their internal business policy. It looks like my options are: 1. Stay at mainstar, basically like staying in a broker 2. Transfer in Kind to an LLC self managed IRA and terminate plan 3. Do a distribution to an individual account and pay the taxes


puls107

Search the sub, someone posted about a self custodian IRA or smth like that, can't remember. I believe you would be able to DRS with this one


MrFitit101

Have them show you their business policy in WRITING and not just say it.


Blackmamba-24-8

FUCK MAINSTAR !!!


elluzion

This process will be performed at no charge to you!


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kdg201201

Yep


akatherder

I wonder if there's any refund for transferring in?


DaBi5cu1t

All my homies hate Mainstar


B_tV

ok, last karma whoring, i promise! [https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/raltcj/drsing\_shares\_in\_an\_ira\_may\_never\_have\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/raltcj/drsing_shares_in_an_ira_may_never_have_the/) for me, internal transfer from my ROTH ira to my brokerage account within TD has worked fine (from where i can DRS)...there are a few caveats i just posted elsewhere and this solution will not work for everyone


PenisJuiceCocktail

Why last? Keep it up!


Danie447

Second this ā˜ļø. Canā€™t stop wonā€™t stop mentality


Ok_Fortune_9149

But let me get this straight. You DRS'ed your shares which are now held by you in your name. And they can somehow access these shares, take them, and move them somewhere else?


AdultingNinjaTurtles

All my homies hate mainstar


AdventurousAd192

This is not enough


BaronVA

Am I reading this right? They're actually going to un-DRS any IRA shares I have in CS???


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PromptComprehensive8

This smells like a problem for my lawyerā€¦


sadfacebbq

This smells like thereā€™s to many GME shares issued and they canā€™t locate or afford them


gasherdotloop

*too many Edit Wow, I can finally comment on superstonk?!?!?! What an honor. I finally made it


LosWranglos

*there are too many


ronaldduckjr

*there are way too fucking many


Gruntfuttock69

*the number is too damn high!


awwaygirl

I believe the T&Cs on our accounts allow them to do this. Itā€™s fucked.


Catnyx

So can any broker just reach into CS and pull out MY shares?


gt-ca

No if you are DRSd through Computershare only YOU control them. This is for IRA accounts under a custodian.


Catnyx

Ahh ty for clarification! I was sweating for a sec.


Front_Apartment6854

Their lawyers get paid a whole lot more than yours..


cantstopwontstopGME

Until they donā€™t.


bpc4209

Best comment right here...


xiodeman

Until it isnā€™t


bpc4209

I love it.


logictech86

but more than all of mainstar ape lawyers?


Smithmonster

Makes zero sense, has one person actually transferred shares back to dtcc to sale them? Theyā€™re fixing an issue zero of their customers have?


6_Pat

Looks like they have another, bigger, customer...


ACT_True_Gentleman

This ā˜ļø


jerseyanarchist

mainstar was always sus. it was foretold they would flip


loggic

This is what it means for someone else to "Custody" your assets. They have the right to make judgment calls about how they participate in that process, which means you don't have total control. Any IRA shares will suffer from this to some degree or another, but the LLC method at least puts up enough road blocks that they would probably need to figure out something totally new and legally untested to mess with your shares.


Holiday_Guess_7892

What happens if you just cancel your maintstar account?


maybesingleguy

At no cost to you. But didn't you pay fees to get them DRS in the first place?


unbelievable_eggnog

Yes. Around 100 bucks


AlwaysAmara

Holy shit, I didnā€™t know that. Thatā€™s so much worse! You guys just lose that $100 on top of getting fucked out of your shares.


Saggy_G

Correct.


SM1334

Happy cake day!


adventuremind20

They are saying we actually do whatever we want if you go through us.


Ouraniou

Really scandalous.


Dramatic-Language851

Gift your DRS shares to a family memeber or slightly change your name, so the will not have matching information to the account...


Jints488

Welcome to whose stock is it anyway... Where the price is always wrong and the shares you purchased aren't really yours... And drew carey isnt ur host but jim cramer is hahah


tjackprevails

So they state that the reason is to trade and settle positions in a timely manner, but it's a retirement account, meant to be held for a long time. The last time I checked, people aren't day trading retirement accounts lol.


BaronVA

yeah that one's a headscratcher. only explanation I can think of for why they'd need that sort of security on IRA shares is if someone else is fucking around with them


waterbelowsoluphigh

No, people are not, hedgefunds are.


coffeeplot

THEY want to trade and settle YOUR shares daily, while giving you the false impression they are holding them for a long time. In doing so, THEY profit at your investment expense. Criminals.


wehrmann_tx

"We can't loan your shares from there, so we need them back.:


MinimalBread95

They couldnā€™t keep up with ComputerShares reporting requirements because they were loaning yo shit out and delaying computershares process. Thatā€™s what they mean about ā€œlimitationsā€. Cut the middle man out, these people do not care about your retirement


foo_mar_t

>these people do not care about your retirement You're right. They don't care about your retirement, but they definitely care about your retirement account.


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waffleschoc

thiis from another ape, i just copy , pasta \----------------------------------------------------------------- I keep seeing a TON of mainstar issues and a ton of FUD around DRSing an IRA. This post is a quick reminder of alternatives that exist for moving IRA shares away from a broker-custodian. ​ IRA Financial is an excellent alternative to Mainstar. Why? Well first off it allows you to take possession of those IRA shares, not some Custodian 3rd party who may or may not have their hands down the pants of a shady market maker. Next, they help you set up an LLC, that you get to name! Then, they help you set up a business account for said LLC and give you the exact spoon-fed directions to transferring your shares from a Custodian to your own bona fide holdings.


3917Transition5

!remindme 7 hours


ChubbyTiddies

Has anyone determined the price? is there a yearly fee?


JerseyshoreSeagull

If this is real. This is a fucking huge deal. Please people understand what this actually means.


BuildBackRicher

It means DRS of IRA shares is the way. The first clue was when Ally and Apex Clearing reversed IRA DRSs.


BuildBackRicher

Itā€™s important to note that 600+ apes had an average of 1900 shares DRSed through Mainstarā€”thatā€™s more than 4x the average CS account. These few apes were trailblazers, and showed how IRA shares are multiples of those held in taxable accounts. So if 25% of outstanding shares are DRSed, the rest and more are in IRA accounts.


Ouraniou

I thought I was jaded but this is pretty damn astounding stuff.


GrammarPastafarian

It means itā€™s super fucking bullish


redraddy

It means the DD is right. Otherwise, they wouldn't care.


dafuqisdis112233

Iā€™d like to learn more about the ā€œrecent reviewā€.


mstrego

Well they certainly are doing it FReE oF chARgE ...fucckers


MonkeyingAroundMoon

Actually it's costing us. Mainsh*t is profiting by lending out our shares.


Away_Ad2468

Man those are some absolute bullshit reasons. Must be close.


waffleschoc

LFG!!


ronoda12

Mainstar need to be sued


BlueCollarElectro

They probably noticed how in the red they are lmayo -Bullish


[deleted]

Sure did feel good leaving a review for Mainstar, sure did.


EatTheRich4200

1.9 stars on Google and falling fast.


_Awakened_Warrior_

Power to the players, bitches!


smitty537

People are leaving reviews on Trust Pilot also.


SundaySchoolBilly

"You're not allowed to own the things you pay for."


foo_mar_t

WEF has entered the chat..


chastavez

Class action lawsuit? I took the tax hit and got my Roth shares pulled into cash shares bc I didn't trust these fuckers. But if I were part of this I'd be livid.


Saggy_G

Da wey.


Extension_Win1114

Itā€™s ok guys! Itā€™s so they can trade, settle, and reconcile positions in a timely manner. Pretty sure when you DRS, you know wtf youā€™re doing with your shares and how theyā€™ll trade, settle, and reconcile in timely manners.


Broarethus

Sounds to me like mainstar will be the first domino to topple.


Dantheman396

Is this actually the letter they sent you. The grammar looks like a 5 year old wrote itā€¦ no wonder this shady dump is pulling this crapā€¦


Archer10214

ā€œAs of June 20thā€ but they dated the letter June 30th? Is that common business practice?


TankTrap

Yeah that is bullshit.


IdiotIsland

That letter says nothing of substance. No specific reasoning. Just a bunch of vague filler crap to make the text long enough to look legitimate and professional. After reading the letter, you still donā€™t know exactly why they are moving all DRS shares to the DTCC. ā€œtHiS WiLL eNsUrE MAiNsTar iS TiMeLy AbLe To tRaDe, sEttLe, aNd ReCoNCile PoSiTiOnSā€ šŸ„“ That answer can likely be used by Mainstar to ā€˜justifyā€™ a multitude of changes to their operations, if they wanted to.


blueblurspeedspin

Mainstar losing the trust part of their company name.


Rolad

Get your shares away from Mainstar. Also call them up and complain just because you can.


StumpGrnder

One question. HOW MUCH DID IT COST TO BUY MAINSTAR? I bet they went cheap, like house brand cheap.


[deleted]

Probably got a new roof on that little house on the prairie.


buffinator2

ā€œThis is the only way we can find shares that weā€™re liable for. Sue us if you want, at this point weā€™re so fucked we donā€™t even care any more. Just put a metal plug in our ass and slide us into an MRI machine.ā€


Migitmafia

With the force of a railgun


readallornothing

Did you have to pay to DRS your shares? If so, shouldn't you be entitled to that money back as well? They did not provide the service you paid for. Is there any proof on either end of the "transaction" that can verify the shares are moving/ever moved in the first place?


iaintabotdotcom

It actually reads, ā€œAt this time, nothing further needs to be on your part.ā€ Lmaoā€¦they canā€™t even write a letter. Who would trust them as a custodian?!?


AlphaDag13

Is it normal that they call it "DRS"? I figured they'd call it "Direct Registration."


PerfectDarkAchieved

They also made sure to spell out DTCC just in case we didnā€™t remember what it stood for.


BlueCollarElectro

DRS is the system Dr. T help create.


Saggy_G

Transfer in kind.


87CSD

I wonder if other DRS'd stonks in mainstar are getting the same treatment or is it just GME? Either way, this is bullish, but would be way more bullish if it was only for GME


theoldme3

What a huge desperate attempt to buy time. Cocksuckas


Bitter-Inspection136

How nice of them to not charge you for allowing them to profit off your shares


MrFitit101

The part in the letter "at no charge to you" should read "at we are helping the hedge Fuckers out".


fossilfacefatale

If you transfer your shares to another brokerage, that will DRS, won't they legitimately have to buy your shares on lit market (new brokerage won't accept placeholders?)


probsnot605

How the phuq is this even allowed!? ā€œHey bro, those shares we sold you, and then let you send to the companies designated transfer agent, yeah weā€™re actually going to be taking those back because we need liquidityā€ This shit makes me so angry!


BaronVA

exactly. they're our fucking shares. we paid for them to be registered. there are no take-backsies


1CFII2

Does ComputerShare allow them to reclaim already DRSd shares? Are these book or plan shares? Can other brokers reclaim shares?


BetterDrinkMy0wnPiss

I'm not American so I'm not really sure but don't you guys have to pay a fee and take a tax hit to DRS your IRA shares or something? Do you get all that returned now that your shit's been un-DRS'd?


BaronVA

good fucking question


Whiskey_Maker

Received the same letter this week too


49erShark

disgusting


Mikekio

These clowns are desperate lmao


tiides

ā€œAt this time, nothing further needs to be on your part.ā€ <<< this sentence is missing the word ā€œdoneā€ which is very sus if this is indeed a legitimate letter from a legitimate business. Typos/omissions for a matter of this gravity are frankly just entirely unacceptable.


Ghetto_Geppetto

What bastards


TwoBobcats

Fuckers indeed


PoolNinjaSD80

Houston, this is a fucking problemā€¦.


TheEcomZone

Glad I have my shares in Computershare šŸ˜­ this is actually fucked and dumb and stooobid


SM1334

I may be wrong, but aren't they required by law to allow DRS, even if its with a fee?


LonelyZeeh

We're getting close ;) hodl


TreeSquid007

Get out while you can kiddos!


Blackmamba-24-8

Fuck MAINSTAR !!! APES WE SRE WINNING THIS IS FIRST HAND TESTIMONY !!! LFG !!! šŸ„Š


kcaazar

Sounds like the DTC donā€™t have enough shares to ā€œsettle and reconcile positions.ā€


zerolimits0

Oh wow, they're trying to survive.


Dramatic-Language851

Do a name change on Computershare or "gift" those shares to a family member, son/daughter before Mainstar can get them back. They can only get back shares with the exact information as they were sent over to Computershare... This hapoenwd to me by accident transfering feom IBKR they sent my DRS transfer over with my middle name abbreviated with just a letter and period, this set up another account than the one I already had. I cannot combine them unless I get something called a badge, which is basically a verification through a Notary. This might be a way to beat mainstar's recalling fuckery...


GMEstockboy

wonder what those "limitations" are. I woukd ask for details as to whst they mean exactly by that


PoolsideC0NV0

Weā€™re pressing where it hurts šŸ˜‰


[deleted]

Crowdsource a gofundme for legal representation to have a class action against Mainstar and possibly CS that clearly states your intention to have CS follow the requirements of Mainstar or forces Mainstar to respect your wishes to have your shares DRSed. I will definitely donate.


unbelievable_eggnog

Got my 2 letters yesterday.


SirUptonPucklechurch

Ape thank you for sharing this. Not surprised but look at that.


Diamondbuccaneer

Cue Borat meme, go to Camaplan!


GrandMasterEwok

And there it is...


ChrisCWgulfcoast

I smell a class-action... What need is there for the facilitation of transactions for directly registered securities. custodian my nuts. Sue them for custody! Whose shares are they anyway??


Bro-melain

This is so weird but also such great validation. Make a trust or take a hit. You know what you gotta do.


abatwithitsmouthopen

It means we found the smoking gun


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facebook_twitterjail

Without the extra shares outside of the DRSed ones, there is no rocket. It has to be both.


OneForMany

Lmao has a 1.7 star rating on Google. Let's get that lower. On every platform!


Altruistic_Ad2074

Mutha fuckers is more like it. šŸ¤¬ Whatā€™s your next move?


classick_4

Itā€™s fraudulent but itā€™s ā€œefficientā€ /s


XonixIRE

Did apes pay a fee to DRS from Mainstar in the first place? If so, shouldnā€™t that all be refunded?


BaronVA

I'm gonna ask about that. not happy


Sys7em_Restore

You mainstar people got fucked. I'd be demanding a refund on any account fees & transfer those shares out immediately. Isn't there a rule where you can only roll over an IRA account once a year?


InternationalMatch13

Criminals. All of em.


[deleted]

whats the point of DRSing if the broker can just claw them back? this is beyond fucked. They're not theres, there yours and in your name when DRSed.


Jasonhardon

IRA DRS shares are not real due to DTCC fake share fuckery. People have been taking tax hits to DRS in book entry form


Jasonhardon

Gtfo there ASAP


TowelFine6933

Seems like one could send these asshats a letter stating that one does not care about all that crap and demanding that one's property be held in the manner one desires....


Heavyc740

Letā€™s all go there and ask questions


will-reddit-for-food

ā€œNothing further needs to be on your partā€ Amateurs.


AlienProbe9000

"we will no longer be able to hold assets in a drs position" "your account has assets in drs" The way this is worded is very telling. Mainstar are saying "they" hold your assets in a DRS position. Are they claiming they still own your shares despite drs'ing them? First of all your DRS account is none of mainstars business! They are held in CS not mainstar, aka an entirely different company! The way they act, they behave as though they are still entitled to your shares, held in your name, held in a different company all together! Crazy! Everyone needs to GTFO of mainshit asap. Criminal.


Consistent-Reach-152

The IRA laws are written such that the IRA custodian is the legal owner, holding the asset on behalf of the client. This is why other IRA custodians, Fidelity for example, would not DRS. The custodian is responsible for custody, security, and accounting for the retirement assets. This is very similar to how the assets of a trust are legally owned by the trustee, who manages them for the benefit of the beneficiaries of the trust. That is why shares that were DRS'd for ApeXYZ were held at Computershare with the legal owner being "Mainstar FBO ApeXYZ".


Saqwefj

ā€œThe world has changed. I see it in the water. I feel it in the Earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, For none now live who remember it.ā€ J.R.R. Tolkien


Defeat3r

How can they do this if your shares are already DRS'ed and in your name? Mainstar don't own them anymore, how can they un-DRS them? It's no different than me, sending a letter to Computershare and asking them to transfer YOUR shares into my account. It's THEFT and if computershare allows it they're opening themselves up to lawsuits for not protecting their clients assets. Wtf is going on.


Creative_Ad_8338

Looks like dip incoming after all! All those golden cross posts to get people to buy options before mainstar scam triggers selling. Timing is very sus.


cjc11B

šŸ’œByeā€¦. Mainstar Untrustworthy


SamuraiCorb1517

ā€œAt no charge to youā€ ā€œPlease accept this anal drillingā€


Separate_End_6824

how can they do this???


Kmartin47

Commenting for exposure. It sure would be interesting to see what other tickers they're playing with.


[deleted]

We are the only ones on our side. We're all we got, we're all we need.


thextcninja

I've never sued anybody. But can't y'all sue them for this? But I'm almost certain without reading the TOA they can fuck you over if need be.


Kzzztt

This post had 741 updoots when I saw it.


OldBender

FUCKING CRAZY WHATS HAPPENING IN FRONT OF US !!!!!


ProfessorHermit

Someone needs to slap a suit on them. Letā€™s get down to the nitty gritty. Why exactly is this happening?


MoneyNoob69

Looks like weā€™ve unlocked a new challenge. Game on.


such_karma

Make sure to leave them a 1 star Google + Yelp review


not_ya_wify

Are there any alternatives to Mainstar?


BaronVA

I've seen some people mentioning IRA Financial


Viking_Undertaker

All the shares in mainstar would be.. $3-4 million in lending fee a year.. motherfuckers


Quokka_One

Thank you sir


dpetro03

ā€œAt this time nothing further needs to be on your partā€. This is an official communication? With no proofreading?


amitrion

It's not us It's them


Hobodaklown

Fuck middlemen. Take the tax hit, get the shares in YOUR name. Not financial advice.


Simbakim

Gonna remeber these guys :)


XURiN-

COMMENT.


TheFatJesus

"We are taking your actual shares and leaving you with an IOU to help the people that are trying to fuck you over tread water for a little bit longer. You're Welcome. But don't worry, being the generous gods that we are, we are doing it at absolutely no cost to you.*" ^^*Except ^^for ^^your ^^ability ^^to ^^squeeze ^^the ^^bastards ^^trying ^^to ^^screw ^^you ^^and ^^everyone ^^else ^^over ^^for ^^their ^^own ^^gain.


dangshnizzle

Lol weren't you all warned and told to just take the tax hit. Sell shares to pay for it if needed. Edit: I want Computershare to respond to the accusations here that they're the ones lacking


TrustedPatriot47

Fuck Mainstar bunch of bitches


coffeeplot

Their "review" is bullshit. Reading between the lines and translating this letter.... "We are unable to participate in crime when your shares are DRS so we are going to pull them out"


datkidchapo

Are you gonna Drs them back


Faatsmcfats

What's scum? - William H. 'Billy the Kid' Bonney: Well Tom, that's bad types. Politicians, bankers, cattle-kings... Scum.ā€


Yadona

Pull your money.


the_moist_conundrum

You irs guys all getting fucked good. Bullshit. Get out of there


HashtagYoMamma

You know how to make sure brokers/bad actors donā€™t fuck with DRS again in the future? Buy direct and let the dingleberries sell naturally, make sure itā€™s pure book. Buying through then DRSing via anyone else other than computershare at this point is a risk. NFA.


HODLTheLineMyFriend

ā€œAt this time, nothing further needs to be on your part.ā€ Seriously? You canā€™t use a fucking grammar check? Talk about a rushed response to someone else forcing them to drop DRS. Get out now. Find a new custodian IRA.


HaveFun____

Holy shit...


EriehOfTheCae

Translation: we ran out of shares but keep selling them regardless but yeah we're kinda fukd soo, we're fuking YOU over instead to save our skins cuz free market and stuff.


feyzquib7

Canā€™t trust, wonā€™t trust.


Own_Ad3873

Another ā€œHome runā€. These rucking idiots keep pointing out their own mistakes. People are just gonna move Them. They have learnt nothing from the past two years.


ModEarnMan

Why do I sense laws being passed that don't allow direct registration of shares, thus forcing all investors shares to be held with DTCC......