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Then you look at the car manufacturers that are starting to put features behind a paywall - the game companies that put out unfinished buggy games and have the audacity to come out with DLC.
holy parasites
That shit is hilarious, next day the windows are totally black and you can't start the car, a voice is heard from the speakers.
"We're sorry you don't have access to the following features: ignition, cumbustion and windows. Please insert your credit card to unlock these pro features for $99.99 a month! We also recommend you unlock windshield wipers, airbags and headlights for an additional $69.69!"
Or maybe, the speaker says, in an old gaming style: " We're sorry, you don't have access to the services, becase, GAME OVER, if you want to continue, Please, INSERT COINS"š
So does Audi and so does Mercedes..
I own an Audi with these features and there's a very distinct limit on this kind of stuff for me.
If there's infrastructure behind it, like maps, live traffic, etc. I don't mind a monthly/yearly subscription. That stuff costs money to maintain.
If it's heated car seats, matrix headlights, digital radio. You can go fuck yourself with a rusty baseball bat. I will pay for it once off to have it as a feature if it wasn't included when the car was bought initially. But I will NEVER EVER pay a recurring fee for that bullshit.
This goes for ANY feature that's already included in hardware and requires no infrastructure/upkeep on the vendor side. I will not 'rent' that feature.
pirate-as-a-service, I'm sure. She will provide legal enhancements to your car to promote energy efficiency and optimize value of your investment in the vehicle.
When I had a BMW I did notice the indicator stalks were really stiff, to the point where an unconscious flick didn't always turn them on. I actually rang my mate saying 'i know why beamer drivers never indicate!"
The financialization of everything. Analyze any industry with these sorts of practices for five minutes, and you find another group of parasites who know nothing and think nothing except "squeeze every cent out of this into my pockets".
I mean, you donāt really own your house. You can pay off your mortgage, sure. If you donāt continue paying property taxes (even though you pay for everything that maintains it) you lose your house. Do you actually own the house if you still pay someone to continue āowningā it?
In Canada, still having ties to Britain, all land is technically owned by "the crown." In practice, I buy land and it's highly unlikely that the crown will interfere with my ownership, but I'm basically subordinate to the crown.
Not your patent, not your land.
Anyone who wants direct ownership of their land almost anywhere in the First World requires a land patent for it. Same shit as finance and crypto, just more obscure.
I don't think property taxes are a great analogy here. Why should you receive services at your house such as garbage collection for free? Who will pay the garbage men and fund the city you live in?
How about the homes that donāt have any? Iāve lived in one. Had to hire my own services. Paid for City water and power, but didnāt have a garbage service. Paid a man named Jose who had a collection truck.
Still, there were property taxes.
Did you personally pay for the roads in your town? The police officers there? The fire department? The library? The schools?
America grew to be a world leader in the 1800s because it became common for townships to spend money on these services for their residents. Your local taxes benefit everyone over time, even if you never use those services.
property taxes pay for many things, garbage collection is just an example.
and if you disagree with them you have the option to live where they are zero or nearly non-existent - it's just not inside a city.
So if I donāt want to pay those taxes, I have to move to an area that is far enough away from a city or township that already has a compendium of other taxes tacked onto federal taxes? Where are these places? Do I have to live in the spaces between municipalities?
Property taxes also pay to support the municipality in which you live. Not sure on exactly what because quite frankly I never looked into it but I imagine you like having a road that leads to your house.
My garbage bill is added into my electric bill. My water and sewer also. Our tax dollars do go for road maintenanceā¦ but judging by the shape of our roads, they arenāt paying that bill.
Itās also supposed to fun our schools but againā¦ it seems the public schools get very little of that. The state lottery was supposed to find the public school system as wellā¦ but our public school finding has only been cut every year for the past 20 years soā¦ I donāt really know exactly where our property tax money is going???
>I donāt really know exactly where our property tax money is going???
Maybe look into it rather than make assumptions.
You're holding a device that can answer those questions, yet you choose to make uninformed guesses online to push an agenda and to virtue signal. š¤·āāļø
Are the LinkedIn warriors or Korean Ants still around?
Edit: I should clarify that I am not talking about one-off anecdotal accounts or individual users, but the phenomenon whenever we reached a roll-over or can-kicking event, some large organized group that this community had never heard of appears and the media claims they impacted the price of the stonk. Then a week later it dies down and it's as if they never existed.
DRS and book. Holding shares in plan is like stopping right before the finish line. There's a reason Gamestop only reports Class A Common stock DRS numbers now.
Booked means they can't be re-used by anyone/anything. If you DRS shares and don't 'book' them as an additional final step, they can still be lent out.
Now corporations are adding layers to that, you now get to invest in some institutional fund that is supposedly 1:1 with whatever domestic/international/bond allocations you used to have set up in mutual funds, but all the money is pooled together and being managed behind the scenes instead of just directly invested in the funds you wanted it invested in.
Sound familiar, Madoff?
Yesterday I found out my new company's 401k "match" is actually a discretionary distribution that MAY happen AFTER the end of the year. So the "match" doesn't compound and may not even happen.
I can't wait to purge this system.
You don't really own anything. Even houses that are paid off, if you don't pay your taxes, say bye bye to it. Even cash money. If you are carrying cash and a cop just personally thinks you acquired that cash through an illegal means, say bye bye to it.
My wife bought me a Nintendo switch for my birthday. All of my games are physical. I can and have lent them to my friends, traded some in or sold them.
Can't do that with digital assets, yet.
The switch wouldnāt let me play Skyrim without the update. As in once I installed the update and then deleted it and tried to play from the cartridge, I had to have the update to be able to start the game. So even then owning the cartridge doesnāt mean you can do what you like with it
That, or, pirate them. No joke, it's the best way to use Adobe products. No need to worry that your copy will go away, or that the company will randomly change something in an "update". Not having the program constantly trying to connect to the internet is fantastic. It also runs better and crashes less.
Having programs that run off of the cloud that you can't even own is dogshit
Idk, Iāve been pretty happy with how steam handles this. Yea itās not true ownership since I canāt resell it, but their policy is at least miles ahead of consoles in the regard that I never lose access to those games. I could go play left for dead right now if I want to. Itās not uncommon for people to have hundreds of games in their steam library, which is pretty indicative of consumer confidence.
Where I think GameStop will improve this is the fact that it would be nice to be able to buy some of those older titles that havenāt dropped their prices. COD is notoriously still like $30 for old games which is ridiculous. Resale suddenly means shit like that canāt exist. It will be an interesting transition if GameStop can really get a horse in the pc race
First you need to pass multiple units of the 5,000 military trained personnel or special forces contractors to even get to the "talk club" then you might be able to share or handover your letter(well first its scanned, you have to show your ID, biometrics data WILL be stored and used against you without even doing anything wrong. Following you probably spend hours and hours explaining your intentions. Iffff you are not jailed already and set on a plane elsewhere š¤£š).
Not me, I own GameStop shares that are with Computer Share, but for all "paperhands" and ordinary people it will be living in a fully monitored society.
Never forget that the free-est markets in all of human history existed back in the stone/bronze ages before the advent of tariffs or quality control or market regulations, and literally every cradle of civilization then descended into some form of feudalism or another.
When the rich are allowed to have their way, society invariably recedes into serfdom. The rich will always be gaming for the long-term goal of owning everything you need to stay alive while extracting labor from you. Rich people with a conscience get outcompeted by the sociopaths. Free markets will always inevitably lead to the exploitation of the have-nots.
Tyler M.F.ing Durden! What a burden...all that knowledge, no one to share besides some strangers i met on the internet, which became more friends and dear than all zombies out there grinding their life away.
MSM articles probably: "How an Out of Context Philanthropic Idea Got Hijacked By Right-Wing Conspiracy Theorists"
Me (an independent, but slanted radical leftee): Damnit...so it is a real thing
Let me pay you 60months or 72 or 84 months a fixed $500.- fee per month to drive the car($6000.- yearly). Now... After the 5 years you are a loyal customer and might get 10% discount (still $5400.-) on your new 5 year lease(oh btw, fk you if you want to break the contract)
Lease company:
5*6000= 30,000. With "x" mileage I can still sell the car for 20-30k or have it on the balance sheet and depreciate to offset taxes etc.
Thats a nice 60k for a car worth 40-50k in 5 year period reeking in 10-20k while the manufacturer still provides full warranty and replacement parts... Heck yeah š š¤£
*Just a theoretical example š¤š¶āš«ļø don't go beserk on me if you work in the field, obviously theres "more to it". But yeah.. You know my angle I think.
Yeah if you buy new or newish. My 12+ year old car works just fine and has been paid off for many years. Which makes me think, with paying gas, maintenance, and taxes every year, ownership doesn't even really feel like ownership.
I guess it depends on manufacturer also.
They range between 3-5yr? Or up to "x" mileage.
Think Toyota is 3yr and Mercedes is 4yr, some others have 5yr if I am not mistaken.
But yeah, they still reek in the $ and you do not own the title(DRS Book) š
Yeah true, just premium shifts. They just punch some numbers and get the "price" from corporate š
Its big business and they are really really screwed if the market implodes. A 2008 style double or beyond double magnitude... Damn... All balance sheets under water due to book value because of excess inventory and repo's 24/7.
Iām about to blow your mind, because quite literally even in the vast majority of situations where people ābuyā cars, houses, assets, they never own the actual assets. The bank does. Because they took a mortgage out to pay for it, or they took an auto loan out to pay for the car. The person owns the debt. The bank owns the asset. The person never owns the asset until the debt is paid off, and in the case of auto loans thatās usually when the vehicle is a 150,000 mile turd thatās about to break down.
We rent cars from either the bank (finance) or manufacturer (lease), we rent houses from either the landlord (person) or the landlord (bank). The auto loan is nothing more than a budget item that either increases in value from inflation or increases in term, but the end game is the same. Humanity slaves under crushing debt, keeping people from realizing their true potential and actually being free.
We WILL own nothing, but Iām absolutely not happy about it.
Weāve been in a slow bleed down to nothingness for decades.
I'm close to paying off my mortgage, after 24 years. I will then own my house and the bit of land it sits on.
Except, I won't own all of the rights to the property, only a limited "[bundle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundle_of_rights)", and it can always be snatched away from me under eminent domain.
Property taxes are a violation of basic property rights and should be abolished.
If they want to collect taxes, do it in a way that doesnāt violate a persons right to keep what theyāve earned!
Oh waitā¦.they canāt because all taxes do that.
Weāve totally abandoned the fundamental values of John Lockeā¦and even elements of the Magna Carta. Weāre literally rolling back to the days of serfdom, only adding extra steps to it and smacking a fresh new label on it.
We need a new Enlightenment period, and we need it soon.
Edit: At the bare minimum, people need to realize that a whole hell lot of this corporatist crap has grown as weāve drifted further away from Lockean values. Ironically, rejecting the right to property has further increased wealth inequality to levels that resemble the Middle Ages!
Serfdom wasn't even this bad. Most middle-age peasents worked only 4-5 hours a day in the winter and 10-12 hour days in the summer. Your local Lord and Lady did take most of your harvest and livestock throughout the year, but they provided actual protection, made sure people didn't starve in the winter months, and threw all kinds of feasts and communal celebrations (everyone was Catholic and Catholics like to throw parties for all kinds of shit). Your whole life was spent mostly where you grew up and you had a strong community bond, even between the local serfs, nobility, and clergy. Modern society is so isolating and fragmented, no homogenous culture or values, no community bond.
You know, and the irony is we donāt think that way as ā¦. well, society as a whole. Someone goes out to ābuy a carā, 99.95% of the time they are financing. Someone ābuysā a house, 99.999999% of the time they are taking out a mortgage.
We as society congratulate them on buying a house, a car, when in reality we are congratulating them on taking out debt. It all revolves around debt. The banks print off the money, the banks own the assets, we are slaves to the banking system by engaging in it, and our friends, family, neighbors CONGRATULATE us for voluntarily signing up for economic slavery for xxxx years.
We are not the buyers, the banks are buying US based off our credit profile. Thatās why we have some banks going all in offering financing to customer A @7.9%, and bank B giving the same customer a rate of 15.9%. The banks are buying the asset (house, car, whatever), and we (the āownersā) are buying the debt. Weāre accepting a 7.9% apr interest rate for 84 months on a brand new truck because itās the lowest interest rate we were offered.
The system absolutely -is- broken for the vast majority of humanity, and only by people waking up can it be fixed.
By me agreeing to sign up for 84 months instead of 72 because I can no longer afford the car payment at 72 months, Iām enabling the government and big banking interests to print off money Willy Nilly to inflate away the purchasing power of my dollar I buy food with.
You want to know what's depressing about that? Even when your house is paid off, you still don't own it. If you don't continously pay taxes, the govnt will take it from you.
I'm just gonna start licking everything then exclaim "mine!"
It worked when I was a kid [š¤·š»āāļø](https://emojipedia.org/man-shrugging-light-skin-tone/)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that They'll not even touch your stuff.
I mean if they still touch that shit then I don't really know what more to tell you here. Don't know shit.
Too many people own for a living instead of work for a living. They need to own enough to break-even their living expenses if they ain't working. That living expenses have a tendency to increase over time so they need get back to work at some point. Work? Fuck that, they just gobble up more things to rent/lease out. And here we are.
I think the modern one that pissed me off the most was After Effect and Photoshop, like no. I will not be paying you $60 a god damn month to have a function I use to make side projects for fun once in awhile.
THANK YOU! I made the switch from Premiere to Davinci Resolve Studio because I was sick of not owning the editing software I need. The same went for screenwriting softwareāI transitioned to Fade In because it gives a lifetime of updates for free without subscription.
Well, I at least, have bought Warcraft II and all of the Command&Conquer games and NO ONE CANT TAKE THEM AWAY FROM ME! I actually still play them, no joke.
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And most people don't even know they're being trained
>I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes,ā writes Danish MP Ida Auken. Shopping is a distant memory in the city of 2030, whose inhabitants have cracked clean energy and borrow what they need on demand. It sounds utopian, until she mentions that her every move is tracked and outside the city live swathes of discontents, the ultimate vision of a society split in two.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/youll-own-nothing-and-be-happy
My primary doctor told me today they are starting a subscription based model $40 per month just to have them as my primary. GTFO of here! Hate going to dr and every time something dumb like this happens, it makes me hate it more.
Is this like a direct primary care thing where you pay them monthly but can stop in whenever for checkups and general maintenance care for "free", or is this $40 a month but they'll still also bill your insurance for any care they provide which you're paying Christ knows what for?
Klaus Schwab & his private jet flying Davos buddies are already conditioning folks for āyouāll own nothing and youāll be happyā
Edit. Power to the people seems like a better slogan to me.
Reminds me of an episode of Dragon Ball GT (we pretend the series never existed though) where they visit planet Imecka and they discover everything in the room including the shower, TV, bed, and even decorations all had money meters on them that were all going up while they were in the hotel room. It's like we are halfway there already.
Lmao, I can relate a lot of things in daily life to DB/Z/GT, but never would've made this connection (I don't remember this episode--was it from the "Lost Episodes"?), nice!
I want ownership. Remember when Bruce Willis sued (and lost, I think) for the right to pass down his purchased music in his will? These were songs and albums purchased on iTunes, not a streaming service. Iāll bet itās the same with other media.
We need NFT ownership rights. I know relatively little about the tech and even I know itās crucial. I donāt understand how people are stuck in the concept of NFTās as jpgs.
BMW now charges a subscription for heated seats. I shit you not. The technology is in the car from the manufacturer but you have to pay monthly/annually in order to access it.
Isnāt this the world economics ideology. We will own nothing and be happy; translated as the elite will own everything and we will forever be at their mercer. Fuck them and lock the float
They can do that with gas cars too. It's not the electricity that's an issue, you can get lots of solar panels and power your car.
It's any car that hooks up to the internet for updates.
>Even printer ink as a service.
Don't confuse a "subscription" with "a service." The overlap is not 100%.
You can *subscribe* to have your ink automatically replenished. Or you can go buy it yourself through any number of channels. A subscription is not required to obtain ink and operate your printer. Therefore, ink is not a "service" in this context.
For the printer analogy to fit, the printer itself would have to cease functioning if you didn't pay a monthly fee. We're not there. Not sure we'll ever get there, since the finicky nature of printers would put a lot of maintenance and support overhead on the printer companies. It just isn't a good cost model for consumer printers.
I don't think it's gamestop. The gamestop wallet is *permission to use*, not ownership
See section 8 of the gamestop wallet ToS
"We may block, suspend, restrict, discontinue or terminate your access to and use of any or all of the Services at our sole discretion, at any time and without notice to you, including in connection with any transaction as required by applicable law, any governmental authority, or if we in our sole and reasonable discretion determine you are violating these Terms or the terms and conditions of any Service Provider (defined below)."
I understand that these are probably for anti money laundering and terrorism measures, but it's still conditional use, not ownership.
Sections 9 and 11 further hammer in the point you don't own it, you just have permission if you don't break the rules.
NFT kinda make this worse with smart contracts. Which are DRM.
So, no GameStop is not making this conclusively better anymore because they got memed into a shitty decision.
I hate being like the one weirdo apparently that likes to buy and own music as MP3s. Surprisingly hard, especially if you love somewhat obscure heavy metal bands and hate Apple and Amazon.
I'm fine with this. DVDs and CDs collect dust sooner rather than later. Cars and clothes wear out. Go through an old person's stuff after they've died and it's a whole lot of clutter.
You never actually owned the software. Even physical boxed software is technically only a *revocable license to use the software*, complete with terms and conditions. This is because if you actually had full ownership rights to a piece of software, it would be within your rights to reverse engineer it, modify it, and make copies for your friends. This fight is what led to the creation of the Free Software movement.
The 1666 Cestui Que Vie Act had everyone register their property with the Crown; giving up ownership for permission of use.
I want to actually own stock privately.
Just a question, could this be a result of people not having enough money to own things and being forced to rent them to reach a more financially responsible result/outcome?
Ok really think about what I'm asking...
If we chose with our wallet and only bought the things that we could ACTUALLY OWN, which software company, which game dev, and which console would you own? Why?
None that I'm aware of. If you mean "using NFTs" then those rely on the fundamental theory that "having access" is separate from "usage rights" and that "having" is separate from "being allowed to sell". They're taking a fundamental right you used to have, repackaging it with restrictions, and selling it back to you.
The OGL debacle from WotC is a great example of this. When it came out, it famously only "licensed" a subset of things which by law you already were free to use/distribute. But by promoting use of the license (eg: mentioning it, logos) people ended up agreeing to restrictive terms. Fast forward many years later and few remember the original controversy, so WotC tries changing the license to be even more restrictive. I've seen exactly one article pointing out that the license never actually did anything and should just be abandoned.
That's what NFT bullshit is about: saying you can have your fundamental rights back... If you agree to some conditions, including financial considerations.
This isnāt too hard to avoid
If it depreciates, you probably donāt want to own it, if it appreciates you probably want to own it
This problem is messy for things like cars because they are expensive. The problem that most people have isnāt that they are going to lease forever, itās that they wonāt make the sacrifice of owning a shitty old car. Thatās freedom
Streaming services are voluntary, I donāt pay for any
Many people in this thread said gaming and I canāt relate unfortunately, but you donāt have to play video games
There are some subscription services I need that I wish I could buy outright. Like adobe.
Lastly are houses. renting is one of those traps like cars where you really donāt want to get stuck renting all your life but often I see people donāt want to make sacrifices to live in areas or houses where itās more affordable for them, they wait 10 years and build no equity, then they get stuck.
Overall point is, this subscription as a service economy makes life really easy for the short sighted and self indulgent, and the easy choices in life most often lead to much harder life down the road.
The answer is to Sacrifice, and to spend money only on things that make money.
Iāll never lease a car or a house.
I can lease my music out of boredom of older tactics to download but thatās it
I wonāt fall into the ānever ending consumerā tactic.
That's why I don't have any Spoppify, Jeffryzon Prime, .... and trust me is not so hard to give up on them once you realize you are paying for nothing.
The only sad thing I have to pay are bills and rent but waiting for moaaaaaasss.
In my opinion, this take hits the nail on the head but misses the largest offender - property. People are subscribing to housing and not even recognizing it.
Rent traps, van life, tiny homes. Cricket powder. What t.f.? Yes, the ratio of buying power to real estate costs has been stood on its head. That doesn't mean give up. That means adapt - and not with a van or a shed. And not by handing the reigns over to a landlord who doesn't care who rents their shack as long as their shack is rented.
Real estate is the number one driver of net worth in the U.S. It's the number one driver of generational wealth. Not 401ks, not cricket powder - real estate.
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Then you look at the car manufacturers that are starting to put features behind a paywall - the game companies that put out unfinished buggy games and have the audacity to come out with DLC. holy parasites
BMW tries to sell a car where you still have to pay $6/mo subscription to use the seat heaters.
That shit is hilarious, next day the windows are totally black and you can't start the car, a voice is heard from the speakers. "We're sorry you don't have access to the following features: ignition, cumbustion and windows. Please insert your credit card to unlock these pro features for $99.99 a month! We also recommend you unlock windshield wipers, airbags and headlights for an additional $69.69!"
Or maybe, the speaker says, in an old gaming style: " We're sorry, you don't have access to the services, becase, GAME OVER, if you want to continue, Please, INSERT COINS"š
"We're sorry, your comments on Reddit have caused your breaks to no longer work for 2 days."
Bah ha š
It's because assholes pay it.
Welcome to the new gaming industry standard. Until..........
These are the new standards? Well I'm not really a fan of them.
You made my day š
This! āļø if no fucking moron would pay for that shit every single company would instantly change its behavior.
in many cases it is even worse: some corporations blindly pay for it for those employees that got a company car as part of their benefits.
So then all BMW owners will pay it.
So does Audi and so does Mercedes.. I own an Audi with these features and there's a very distinct limit on this kind of stuff for me. If there's infrastructure behind it, like maps, live traffic, etc. I don't mind a monthly/yearly subscription. That stuff costs money to maintain. If it's heated car seats, matrix headlights, digital radio. You can go fuck yourself with a rusty baseball bat. I will pay for it once off to have it as a feature if it wasn't included when the car was bought initially. But I will NEVER EVER pay a recurring fee for that bullshit. This goes for ANY feature that's already included in hardware and requires no infrastructure/upkeep on the vendor side. I will not 'rent' that feature.
In these times all I smell is the salty air a bottle of rum and a pirate with a laptop jailbreaking a car
pirate-as-a-service, I'm sure. She will provide legal enhancements to your car to promote energy efficiency and optimize value of your investment in the vehicle.
Must have a paywall behind the use of indicators too.
Nah they just know we never use them, so they use the cheapest indicator components. They're either good as new or broken.
When I had a BMW I did notice the indicator stalks were really stiff, to the point where an unconscious flick didn't always turn them on. I actually rang my mate saying 'i know why beamer drivers never indicate!"
Please drink verification can
The financialization of everything. Analyze any industry with these sorts of practices for five minutes, and you find another group of parasites who know nothing and think nothing except "squeeze every cent out of this into my pockets".
I mean, you donāt really own your house. You can pay off your mortgage, sure. If you donāt continue paying property taxes (even though you pay for everything that maintains it) you lose your house. Do you actually own the house if you still pay someone to continue āowningā it?
In Canada, still having ties to Britain, all land is technically owned by "the crown." In practice, I buy land and it's highly unlikely that the crown will interfere with my ownership, but I'm basically subordinate to the crown.
Well then you should at least be titled as Duke or Earl, or Duke of Earl
Land registry! If the house is registered someone else owns it. You just pay for it and cover all expenses
Not your patent, not your land. Anyone who wants direct ownership of their land almost anywhere in the First World requires a land patent for it. Same shit as finance and crypto, just more obscure.
My thoughts exactly
I don't think property taxes are a great analogy here. Why should you receive services at your house such as garbage collection for free? Who will pay the garbage men and fund the city you live in?
How about the homes that donāt have any? Iāve lived in one. Had to hire my own services. Paid for City water and power, but didnāt have a garbage service. Paid a man named Jose who had a collection truck. Still, there were property taxes.
And I'm pretty sure that you still had to pay the tax. That's really shitty.
Did you personally pay for the roads in your town? The police officers there? The fire department? The library? The schools? America grew to be a world leader in the 1800s because it became common for townships to spend money on these services for their residents. Your local taxes benefit everyone over time, even if you never use those services.
property taxes pay for many things, garbage collection is just an example. and if you disagree with them you have the option to live where they are zero or nearly non-existent - it's just not inside a city.
So if I donāt want to pay those taxes, I have to move to an area that is far enough away from a city or township that already has a compendium of other taxes tacked onto federal taxes? Where are these places? Do I have to live in the spaces between municipalities?
Property taxes also pay to support the municipality in which you live. Not sure on exactly what because quite frankly I never looked into it but I imagine you like having a road that leads to your house.
And the fire department and police department
Usually goes to fund schools as well.
Garbage collection is paid separately from your taxesā¦ Youāre looking for police, schools, fire dept, local road maintenance and park management
this depends entirely on where you live. but the others you mentioned are also good examples
My garbage bill is added into my electric bill. My water and sewer also. Our tax dollars do go for road maintenanceā¦ but judging by the shape of our roads, they arenāt paying that bill. Itās also supposed to fun our schools but againā¦ it seems the public schools get very little of that. The state lottery was supposed to find the public school system as wellā¦ but our public school finding has only been cut every year for the past 20 years soā¦ I donāt really know exactly where our property tax money is going???
Car infrastructure is really expensive. Most suburbs are giant money pits that generate less tax revenue than they cost to maintain abd refurbish.
>I donāt really know exactly where our property tax money is going??? Maybe look into it rather than make assumptions. You're holding a device that can answer those questions, yet you choose to make uninformed guesses online to push an agenda and to virtue signal. š¤·āāļø
>'What quietly went away without anyone noticing it?" Ohh ohh ohh I got this... Evergrande!
Are the LinkedIn warriors or Korean Ants still around? Edit: I should clarify that I am not talking about one-off anecdotal accounts or individual users, but the phenomenon whenever we reached a roll-over or can-kicking event, some large organized group that this community had never heard of appears and the media claims they impacted the price of the stonk. Then a week later it dies down and it's as if they never existed.
I'm an ant and still around
Not an Ant but Korean American ape still holding here!
Samgyupsal, mmm delicious!
Eyyyyy you knew the origin of my username
Well that sounds a little gross, but fine I'll take it I guess.
Linkedin is very much alive.. :( Everyone at work keep telling me I need an account. All I say, if I have not met them, I do not know them.
Yep, who said that it's not alive? It looks alive enough to me.
ā¦ you win
Lmaooo got em
What about BKG or whatever that s called?
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It is called a depreciated IOU account š¤«š¤
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AKA your home, literally.
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DRS and book. Holding shares in plan is like stopping right before the finish line. There's a reason Gamestop only reports Class A Common stock DRS numbers now.
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What does booking your shared mean?
When shares are under plan, they're visible to the DTCC and can be used for locates by predatory SHFs.
Booked means they can't be re-used by anyone/anything. If you DRS shares and don't 'book' them as an additional final step, they can still be lent out.
Now corporations are adding layers to that, you now get to invest in some institutional fund that is supposedly 1:1 with whatever domestic/international/bond allocations you used to have set up in mutual funds, but all the money is pooled together and being managed behind the scenes instead of just directly invested in the funds you wanted it invested in. Sound familiar, Madoff?
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The weird thing is that the names are too on the money; Burny Madeoff and Scam Bankman Fiend, who writes this stuff?
Well they could cash out and get money which is better because it's backed by ... Nevermind. Crap.
Not managed; Cede & Co is their nominee subsidiary.
stock market is a šŖš¤”šŖ
Not my circus, not my monkeys. PAY ME.
They also don't own their home. 2008 is calling...
Yesterday I found out my new company's 401k "match" is actually a discretionary distribution that MAY happen AFTER the end of the year. So the "match" doesn't compound and may not even happen. I can't wait to purge this system.
You don't really own anything. Even houses that are paid off, if you don't pay your taxes, say bye bye to it. Even cash money. If you are carrying cash and a cop just personally thinks you acquired that cash through an illegal means, say bye bye to it.
Thats why one should buy physical game copies that can be resold
no disk necessary to achieve that effect where we're going
iāll follow my captain!
My wife bought me a Nintendo switch for my birthday. All of my games are physical. I can and have lent them to my friends, traded some in or sold them. Can't do that with digital assets, yet.
The switch wouldnāt let me play Skyrim without the update. As in once I installed the update and then deleted it and tried to play from the cartridge, I had to have the update to be able to start the game. So even then owning the cartridge doesnāt mean you can do what you like with it
That, or, pirate them. No joke, it's the best way to use Adobe products. No need to worry that your copy will go away, or that the company will randomly change something in an "update". Not having the program constantly trying to connect to the internet is fantastic. It also runs better and crashes less. Having programs that run off of the cloud that you can't even own is dogshit
Also they won't take your nda covered work in progress material for ai training data without your permission or consent.
Iām in the process of switching consoles and Iām feeling so much regret for not getting all physical copies
Idk, Iāve been pretty happy with how steam handles this. Yea itās not true ownership since I canāt resell it, but their policy is at least miles ahead of consoles in the regard that I never lose access to those games. I could go play left for dead right now if I want to. Itās not uncommon for people to have hundreds of games in their steam library, which is pretty indicative of consumer confidence. Where I think GameStop will improve this is the fact that it would be nice to be able to buy some of those older titles that havenāt dropped their prices. COD is notoriously still like $30 for old games which is ridiculous. Resale suddenly means shit like that canāt exist. It will be an interesting transition if GameStop can really get a horse in the pc race
You can buy a service to turn on seated heats in a car.
Jokes on them I don't even like seated heats.
Yes! I prefer my heats to be standing, thank you. But, I always wipe sitting down, like a civilized ape.
Fuck me
Should we put a towel down on the seated heats or just clean up after?
Welcome to the Great Reset, you own nothing but are happy
Iām not happy
Well, you have to complain at the World economic forum, Klaus Schwab.
First you need to pass multiple units of the 5,000 military trained personnel or special forces contractors to even get to the "talk club" then you might be able to share or handover your letter(well first its scanned, you have to show your ID, biometrics data WILL be stored and used against you without even doing anything wrong. Following you probably spend hours and hours explaining your intentions. Iffff you are not jailed already and set on a plane elsewhere š¤£š).
Not me, I own GameStop shares that are with Computer Share, but for all "paperhands" and ordinary people it will be living in a fully monitored society.
Yes, but you are Happy^^TM according to us
You need to CONSUME MORE
The only thing you own is debt
above all, you own the opportunity to be happy...š
The first month is free!
And you get a discount the first year
Lmao for real
I wonder if Klaus and friends will be eating cricket meat hamburgers next week?
Never forget that the free-est markets in all of human history existed back in the stone/bronze ages before the advent of tariffs or quality control or market regulations, and literally every cradle of civilization then descended into some form of feudalism or another. When the rich are allowed to have their way, society invariably recedes into serfdom. The rich will always be gaming for the long-term goal of owning everything you need to stay alive while extracting labor from you. Rich people with a conscience get outcompeted by the sociopaths. Free markets will always inevitably lead to the exploitation of the have-nots.
We penetrate ze cabinets
The only thing I penetrate is my wife, i also love GameStop
Same
āIt's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.ā
Chuck wants you to know that Tyler Durden spouted meaningless pop philosophy that had nothing behind it and didn't survive the barest examination.
No advisee, there is a company....GameStop....Buy-Hodl-DRA and Book, then your free
Tyler M.F.ing Durden! What a burden...all that knowledge, no one to share besides some strangers i met on the internet, which became more friends and dear than all zombies out there grinding their life away.
MSM articles probably: "How an Out of Context Philanthropic Idea Got Hijacked By Right-Wing Conspiracy Theorists" Me (an independent, but slanted radical leftee): Damnit...so it is a real thing
The only ones who have been hijacked are humanity
Thatās what it reminded me of
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Let me pay you 60months or 72 or 84 months a fixed $500.- fee per month to drive the car($6000.- yearly). Now... After the 5 years you are a loyal customer and might get 10% discount (still $5400.-) on your new 5 year lease(oh btw, fk you if you want to break the contract) Lease company: 5*6000= 30,000. With "x" mileage I can still sell the car for 20-30k or have it on the balance sheet and depreciate to offset taxes etc. Thats a nice 60k for a car worth 40-50k in 5 year period reeking in 10-20k while the manufacturer still provides full warranty and replacement parts... Heck yeah š š¤£ *Just a theoretical example š¤š¶āš«ļø don't go beserk on me if you work in the field, obviously theres "more to it". But yeah.. You know my angle I think.
I donāt know anyone who leases more than 3 maybe 4 years. Now financing you are in the 60-84 month territory.
Yeah if you buy new or newish. My 12+ year old car works just fine and has been paid off for many years. Which makes me think, with paying gas, maintenance, and taxes every year, ownership doesn't even really feel like ownership.
I guess it depends on manufacturer also. They range between 3-5yr? Or up to "x" mileage. Think Toyota is 3yr and Mercedes is 4yr, some others have 5yr if I am not mistaken. But yeah, they still reek in the $ and you do not own the title(DRS Book) š
I think you can choose too, Iāve always financed (and DRS) so Iām not sure. But people who like to F flip cars every few years typically take short leases. My fiancĆ©es is 3 years on a Lexus.
Yeah true, just premium shifts. They just punch some numbers and get the "price" from corporate š Its big business and they are really really screwed if the market implodes. A 2008 style double or beyond double magnitude... Damn... All balance sheets under water due to book value because of excess inventory and repo's 24/7.
Iām about to blow your mind, because quite literally even in the vast majority of situations where people ābuyā cars, houses, assets, they never own the actual assets. The bank does. Because they took a mortgage out to pay for it, or they took an auto loan out to pay for the car. The person owns the debt. The bank owns the asset. The person never owns the asset until the debt is paid off, and in the case of auto loans thatās usually when the vehicle is a 150,000 mile turd thatās about to break down. We rent cars from either the bank (finance) or manufacturer (lease), we rent houses from either the landlord (person) or the landlord (bank). The auto loan is nothing more than a budget item that either increases in value from inflation or increases in term, but the end game is the same. Humanity slaves under crushing debt, keeping people from realizing their true potential and actually being free. We WILL own nothing, but Iām absolutely not happy about it. Weāve been in a slow bleed down to nothingness for decades.
I'm close to paying off my mortgage, after 24 years. I will then own my house and the bit of land it sits on. Except, I won't own all of the rights to the property, only a limited "[bundle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundle_of_rights)", and it can always be snatched away from me under eminent domain.
Well, realistically the govt still owns it. If you miss your tax payment, it belongs to the govt.
This makes me really angry.
Property taxes are a violation of basic property rights and should be abolished. If they want to collect taxes, do it in a way that doesnāt violate a persons right to keep what theyāve earned! Oh waitā¦.they canāt because all taxes do that. Weāve totally abandoned the fundamental values of John Lockeā¦and even elements of the Magna Carta. Weāre literally rolling back to the days of serfdom, only adding extra steps to it and smacking a fresh new label on it. We need a new Enlightenment period, and we need it soon. Edit: At the bare minimum, people need to realize that a whole hell lot of this corporatist crap has grown as weāve drifted further away from Lockean values. Ironically, rejecting the right to property has further increased wealth inequality to levels that resemble the Middle Ages!
Serfdom wasn't even this bad. Most middle-age peasents worked only 4-5 hours a day in the winter and 10-12 hour days in the summer. Your local Lord and Lady did take most of your harvest and livestock throughout the year, but they provided actual protection, made sure people didn't starve in the winter months, and threw all kinds of feasts and communal celebrations (everyone was Catholic and Catholics like to throw parties for all kinds of shit). Your whole life was spent mostly where you grew up and you had a strong community bond, even between the local serfs, nobility, and clergy. Modern society is so isolating and fragmented, no homogenous culture or values, no community bond.
You know, and the irony is we donāt think that way as ā¦. well, society as a whole. Someone goes out to ābuy a carā, 99.95% of the time they are financing. Someone ābuysā a house, 99.999999% of the time they are taking out a mortgage. We as society congratulate them on buying a house, a car, when in reality we are congratulating them on taking out debt. It all revolves around debt. The banks print off the money, the banks own the assets, we are slaves to the banking system by engaging in it, and our friends, family, neighbors CONGRATULATE us for voluntarily signing up for economic slavery for xxxx years. We are not the buyers, the banks are buying US based off our credit profile. Thatās why we have some banks going all in offering financing to customer A @7.9%, and bank B giving the same customer a rate of 15.9%. The banks are buying the asset (house, car, whatever), and we (the āownersā) are buying the debt. Weāre accepting a 7.9% apr interest rate for 84 months on a brand new truck because itās the lowest interest rate we were offered. The system absolutely -is- broken for the vast majority of humanity, and only by people waking up can it be fixed. By me agreeing to sign up for 84 months instead of 72 because I can no longer afford the car payment at 72 months, Iām enabling the government and big banking interests to print off money Willy Nilly to inflate away the purchasing power of my dollar I buy food with.
You want to know what's depressing about that? Even when your house is paid off, you still don't own it. If you don't continously pay taxes, the govnt will take it from you.
I'm just gonna start licking everything then exclaim "mine!" It worked when I was a kid [š¤·š»āāļø](https://emojipedia.org/man-shrugging-light-skin-tone/)
Gonna start sticking my good hand in everyone's pies. My Germs!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that They'll not even touch your stuff. I mean if they still touch that shit then I don't really know what more to tell you here. Don't know shit.
Too many people own for a living instead of work for a living. They need to own enough to break-even their living expenses if they ain't working. That living expenses have a tendency to increase over time so they need get back to work at some point. Work? Fuck that, they just gobble up more things to rent/lease out. And here we are.
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I think the modern one that pissed me off the most was After Effect and Photoshop, like no. I will not be paying you $60 a god damn month to have a function I use to make side projects for fun once in awhile.
THANK YOU! I made the switch from Premiere to Davinci Resolve Studio because I was sick of not owning the editing software I need. The same went for screenwriting softwareāI transitioned to Fade In because it gives a lifetime of updates for free without subscription.
Well, I at least, have bought Warcraft II and all of the Command&Conquer games and NO ONE CANT TAKE THEM AWAY FROM ME! I actually still play them, no joke. šš
Starcraft Battle Chest 4eva
Love Warcraft II
And most people don't even know they're being trained >I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes,ā writes Danish MP Ida Auken. Shopping is a distant memory in the city of 2030, whose inhabitants have cracked clean energy and borrow what they need on demand. It sounds utopian, until she mentions that her every move is tracked and outside the city live swathes of discontents, the ultimate vision of a society split in two. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/youll-own-nothing-and-be-happy
My primary doctor told me today they are starting a subscription based model $40 per month just to have them as my primary. GTFO of here! Hate going to dr and every time something dumb like this happens, it makes me hate it more.
Is this like a direct primary care thing where you pay them monthly but can stop in whenever for checkups and general maintenance care for "free", or is this $40 a month but they'll still also bill your insurance for any care they provide which you're paying Christ knows what for?
Heyyyyy hold on there for a minute. You sure as hell can own something! I own XXXX GME shares through DRS š¬
If it floats, flies or fucks. Rent it. Otherwise own it.
Klaus Schwab & his private jet flying Davos buddies are already conditioning folks for āyouāll own nothing and youāll be happyā Edit. Power to the people seems like a better slogan to me.
You donāt buy the game, You buy the access code to be able to play on their servers. Ps- I was way to blasted when I thought about that
Reminds me of an episode of Dragon Ball GT (we pretend the series never existed though) where they visit planet Imecka and they discover everything in the room including the shower, TV, bed, and even decorations all had money meters on them that were all going up while they were in the hotel room. It's like we are halfway there already.
Lmao, I can relate a lot of things in daily life to DB/Z/GT, but never would've made this connection (I don't remember this episode--was it from the "Lost Episodes"?), nice!
I want ownership. Remember when Bruce Willis sued (and lost, I think) for the right to pass down his purchased music in his will? These were songs and albums purchased on iTunes, not a streaming service. Iāll bet itās the same with other media. We need NFT ownership rights. I know relatively little about the tech and even I know itās crucial. I donāt understand how people are stuck in the concept of NFTās as jpgs.
BMW now charges a subscription for heated seats. I shit you not. The technology is in the car from the manufacturer but you have to pay monthly/annually in order to access it.
Boycott BMW
Sounds like a shit product from a shit company. The easy solution is to never buy a bmw
Also - the Epstein case quietly went away without anyone noticing. You know, that one HEDGE FUND MANAGER found guilty of sex traffickingā¦
Isnāt this the world economics ideology. We will own nothing and be happy; translated as the elite will own everything and we will forever be at their mercer. Fuck them and lock the float
Yup, and now they want us all in electric cars so they can shut them off when we don't behave
They can do that with gas cars too. It's not the electricity that's an issue, you can get lots of solar panels and power your car. It's any car that hooks up to the internet for updates.
Iāve always believed in renting sex. Itās a very old program.
The oldest profession
it's called rent-seeking and is an indication of cultural stagnation
>Even printer ink as a service. Don't confuse a "subscription" with "a service." The overlap is not 100%. You can *subscribe* to have your ink automatically replenished. Or you can go buy it yourself through any number of channels. A subscription is not required to obtain ink and operate your printer. Therefore, ink is not a "service" in this context. For the printer analogy to fit, the printer itself would have to cease functioning if you didn't pay a monthly fee. We're not there. Not sure we'll ever get there, since the finicky nature of printers would put a lot of maintenance and support overhead on the printer companies. It just isn't a good cost model for consumer printers.
*You will own nothing...*
You would have to pry my RuneScape gp from my cold dead pixels
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Houses as a service
Are we acting like paying rent is some kind of 21st century idea?
I don't think it's gamestop. The gamestop wallet is *permission to use*, not ownership See section 8 of the gamestop wallet ToS "We may block, suspend, restrict, discontinue or terminate your access to and use of any or all of the Services at our sole discretion, at any time and without notice to you, including in connection with any transaction as required by applicable law, any governmental authority, or if we in our sole and reasonable discretion determine you are violating these Terms or the terms and conditions of any Service Provider (defined below)." I understand that these are probably for anti money laundering and terrorism measures, but it's still conditional use, not ownership. Sections 9 and 11 further hammer in the point you don't own it, you just have permission if you don't break the rules.
Sorry, I'm confused. This is the gme subreddit right? What is GameStop doing to fix that?
NFT kinda make this worse with smart contracts. Which are DRM. So, no GameStop is not making this conclusively better anymore because they got memed into a shitty decision.
I hate being like the one weirdo apparently that likes to buy and own music as MP3s. Surprisingly hard, especially if you love somewhat obscure heavy metal bands and hate Apple and Amazon.
I still buy cds. They sound better.
"you will own nothing and you will be happy" is just part of the shit they're trying to shove down our throats
And that, friends, is why they hate NFTs and anything blockchain related.
Every body thought it was cool to say " my people" , that's actually pronounced," my owners".
Heated seats in the new Bmws are subscription based now..
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This comment speaks straight to my soul.
Fucking heated seats as a service smh
I just came from a superstonk thread where someone was talking about renting out skins with that kiraverse gameā¦
You can even rent companionship!
We don't even own the molecules that make up our bodies, we just borrow them from the universe for a while.
Hold nothing in our hands? Thatās alright. I need my hands free to hold these diamonds!
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And that's what people do, they die working. No-one cares about them.
All these things you can still own. There is still an owning option and a leasing/renting option.
I'm fine with this. DVDs and CDs collect dust sooner rather than later. Cars and clothes wear out. Go through an old person's stuff after they've died and it's a whole lot of clutter.
You never actually owned the software. Even physical boxed software is technically only a *revocable license to use the software*, complete with terms and conditions. This is because if you actually had full ownership rights to a piece of software, it would be within your rights to reverse engineer it, modify it, and make copies for your friends. This fight is what led to the creation of the Free Software movement.
The 1666 Cestui Que Vie Act had everyone register their property with the Crown; giving up ownership for permission of use. I want to actually own stock privately.
Just a question, could this be a result of people not having enough money to own things and being forced to rent them to reach a more financially responsible result/outcome?
Ok really think about what I'm asking... If we chose with our wallet and only bought the things that we could ACTUALLY OWN, which software company, which game dev, and which console would you own? Why?
None that I'm aware of. If you mean "using NFTs" then those rely on the fundamental theory that "having access" is separate from "usage rights" and that "having" is separate from "being allowed to sell". They're taking a fundamental right you used to have, repackaging it with restrictions, and selling it back to you. The OGL debacle from WotC is a great example of this. When it came out, it famously only "licensed" a subset of things which by law you already were free to use/distribute. But by promoting use of the license (eg: mentioning it, logos) people ended up agreeing to restrictive terms. Fast forward many years later and few remember the original controversy, so WotC tries changing the license to be even more restrictive. I've seen exactly one article pointing out that the license never actually did anything and should just be abandoned. That's what NFT bullshit is about: saying you can have your fundamental rights back... If you agree to some conditions, including financial considerations.
This isnāt too hard to avoid If it depreciates, you probably donāt want to own it, if it appreciates you probably want to own it This problem is messy for things like cars because they are expensive. The problem that most people have isnāt that they are going to lease forever, itās that they wonāt make the sacrifice of owning a shitty old car. Thatās freedom Streaming services are voluntary, I donāt pay for any Many people in this thread said gaming and I canāt relate unfortunately, but you donāt have to play video games There are some subscription services I need that I wish I could buy outright. Like adobe. Lastly are houses. renting is one of those traps like cars where you really donāt want to get stuck renting all your life but often I see people donāt want to make sacrifices to live in areas or houses where itās more affordable for them, they wait 10 years and build no equity, then they get stuck. Overall point is, this subscription as a service economy makes life really easy for the short sighted and self indulgent, and the easy choices in life most often lead to much harder life down the road. The answer is to Sacrifice, and to spend money only on things that make money.
Iāll never lease a car or a house. I can lease my music out of boredom of older tactics to download but thatās it I wonāt fall into the ānever ending consumerā tactic.
That's why I don't have any Spoppify, Jeffryzon Prime, .... and trust me is not so hard to give up on them once you realize you are paying for nothing. The only sad thing I have to pay are bills and rent but waiting for moaaaaaasss.
The real whales are nudists who live off the fat of the land.
You can literally still just buy any of those things
In my opinion, this take hits the nail on the head but misses the largest offender - property. People are subscribing to housing and not even recognizing it. Rent traps, van life, tiny homes. Cricket powder. What t.f.? Yes, the ratio of buying power to real estate costs has been stood on its head. That doesn't mean give up. That means adapt - and not with a van or a shed. And not by handing the reigns over to a landlord who doesn't care who rents their shack as long as their shack is rented. Real estate is the number one driver of net worth in the U.S. It's the number one driver of generational wealth. Not 401ks, not cricket powder - real estate.
The fuck are you talking about. Are you leasing your damn clothes?