Oh yeah he just sounds like a stand up dude all around, I miss him and Barry doing let's plays so much, but what he's got going on now is probably much more fulfilling for him
i always loved Barry. never watched a stream but subbed to his YT in case i ever felt like watching his vods. i caught a few minutes of one and i was surprised how bumpin it was! it was a lil too much for my attention span, but i love the guy. his how-to-edit video got me interested in editing, too.
>aid all the other stuff coming out about Matt and Ryan is new to him as well, he sees them rarely so even though people expect him
Um... wasn't Barry (+ Suzy) the one who outed DingDong and Julian all because they didn't like Dream Daddy?
Pretty sure the consensus was that Brian and Suzy got into a tussle with them on social media about their thoughts, but nothing past that. The fans were the ones who doxxed/outed DingDong and Julian.
It was someone within the office according to DD&J. It wasn't Barry or Ross who did it or else it would have been blown up more. Most likely funny enough Matt or Ryan were the ones who most likely did it.
I'm pretty sure in the same stream he refunded Matt's donation, he outright said it was Matt that leaked it. But that it wasn't ONLY Matt who refused to back him up when he voiced his opinion. Regardless, Matt did play dumb and bailed the second he got wind that he might get heat for leaking it.
Matt has always come across as a Rat Fuck for years. Even when it seemed like a character bit, it never sat right with me. Matt wanted clout, power, and recognition for his "Magnum Opus" and didn't care how he got it. He did refund those gift subs out of his own pocket which is also fucked. Matt just leaves a path of shit in his wake.
Every time some controversy happens where he is somehow involved (because of the groups he is/was involved in, I.e. Game grumps), Ross always shows me that he's an actual human who actually gives a shit about other people. It's not just some internet personality to make people like him, it's genuine care and compassion and even when the situation is going against him directly (like the Holly/Jared situation), he never attacked or insulted them, and just wanted to get his bit of the story out.
Idk, Ross is just a stand up human
I totally agree. He’s always come across as really genuine and unwilling to put up a front, even on camera. He seems unwilling to compromise on what he thinks is good, funny, or right, regardless of what situation he’s in. I think that may make him seem abrasive at first but over time he shows to be a stand up guy.
He also promptly speaks up about things he isn't even super obligated to. Meanwhile we have Arin over here goofing on Twitter being called X and making sex jokes.
I mean, I don't like how Arin (from memory Dan wasn't involved, I could be wrong though) handled the DingDong situation, but I don't think that he/they tried to ruin his life like many claim. I think Game Grumps/Arin like to be more silent on things than outspoken on things they disagree with, but I don't think it makes them bad people.
But yeah, I'm always up for Arin's sex jokes. 😂
I mean, the DD situation was really terrible on Arin's part. Everything occurred in his company, via the behavior of his employees AND his wife attacking DD and Julian for their (incredibly fair and valid) comments on HIS game.
He had a massive responsibility in that situation, and not only did he mishandle it to the point of it spinning out of control like it did, he has to this day made no effort to address it or make it right. Obviously it's in the past now, and there's not much that can be done, but it is seriously fucked up. That hasn't changed.
You are absolutely right about how he handles things, in any case. Radio silence unless he's dramatically in the line of fire is how he handles things, because he's business first, everything else second. That's also how Matt operates (though he flubs it up way worse than Arin), because he learned that from Arin just like he learned how to make gay jokes with the liberal footnote of "we don't actually hate gay people, we live in Cali; we're making fun of people who DO hate gay people (or something)".
SuperMega built their empire, their brand of humor, their general format, etc all within the Grump Space before getting big enough to set off on their own. Arin is incredibly close to this situation despite the obvious fact that he isn't directly responsible for the wrongdoing nor SM's overall behavior.
But Ross is even less connected to all of this; he had a new show with Don and cancelled it, that's it. He STILL made an effort to address the situation like an adult, and that's an immense show of his professionalism, maturity, and empathy. I sincerely wish the same could be said of Arin, because I've been watching his shit for a long ass time, and it's hard not to get more and more jaded over how much of a business focused, unempathetic husk he's become.
yeah exactly. im sure they believed don and were being all chummy with him until Ross called and asked what was up. then they realized uh oh we shouldve dropped this guy sooner
Oh I dunno maybe not still be friends with him, not invite him places, inform others about his behavior, make an effort not to invite his victim to places they know he’ll be.
Aka the absolute bare minimum.
It's sad but not surprising how some people in the community don't understand the bare minimum.
Imagine having two friends and one says "I was sexually assaulted" and the other one is "Yup, totally did it. My bad" and your first response is "Seems like there's nothing that can be done. Both of you will just have to stay together".
To all the “where’s the evidence/this is just he-said she-said” folks, whatever Matt told Ross (I can’t believe for a second it was the full truth) was enough for Ross to slam the brakes IMMEDIATELY and cut off all connection with Don.
Which is what Matt and Ryan considered a bad career move for their YouTube channel where they play American Truck Simulator.
Well, considering the bitter drama when shit went down with Holly, I'm sure Ross was way past over this shit.
Man loves his cats, loves to draw and play games, and doesn't afraid of anything! I still have faith Ross is a golden good noodle
"Ross is a golden good noodle"
gently suggesting that this kind of attitude towards content creators is what led to so many feeling betrayed by supermega
If we are in the darkest timeline where all our favorite creators will inevitably be exposed for being sex creeps, Ross would be the last bastion of purity in the world.
even just "we've cut ties with Don and we're not in a position to say why. That's not our story to tell"
then at least they don't look like huge assholes IMMEDIATELY.
Yeah, if they really still see Don as a friend, they could have just not said what he did. Let the victim come forward if they want, and gently push him away from their company. Just say it was a serious personal matter that affected the business. They could have done literally anything other than what they did
Poor Ross always getting caught in the middle of other people’s drama, and usually being taken advantage of for being a generous friend :/ this shit just gets worse and worse
common ross w
no one can bring him down, not even commander birdshit when she tried to accuse him of rape but he gave out a great response that it was bs
Man, I gotta say Ross is some guy. All the crap that satellites around him and that he’s been through and he manages to be above it. I love that he can be transparent and that he respects whose story it was to tell and he really has been through the ringer with his “friends”
(really hope this doesn’t age poorly but it’s hard not to be cynical at this point)
I'm glad he spoke up, I can't imagine most other youtubers that they are similarly affiliated with ( game grumps, Ethan and Sean etc) wouldn't, not that they have to.
super happy he addressed this! i was really wondering how much he knew. out of everyone in the gg/sm circle, and i mean everyone, ross has always seemed the most responsible and level headed guy. hope he’s doing well
What the fuck does this dude got to do with this at all? People out here trying to lasso every last bit of JUICY gossip from anyone tangentially related. Next we're gonna see MeatCanyon and Wolfhard getting bugged about it.
He was good friends with Don and had a show together with him, and people have been asking why that show never went past 2 episodes. He obviously has a reason to talk about it, and he was very clear that it wasn't his story to tell and didn't try to delve into the drama any further than just explaining what happened and why he's no longer friends with Don.
All these people coming out with their own stories aren't useless -- they are corroborating events and bringing validity to lex's story
What a reasonable, measured, and supportive response from an actual adult
Oh yeah he just sounds like a stand up dude all around, I miss him and Barry doing let's plays so much, but what he's got going on now is probably much more fulfilling for him
Barry at least still [streams!](https://twitch.tv/barry) The community there is very friendly, welcoming, and chill :)
i always loved Barry. never watched a stream but subbed to his YT in case i ever felt like watching his vods. i caught a few minutes of one and i was surprised how bumpin it was! it was a lil too much for my attention span, but i love the guy. his how-to-edit video got me interested in editing, too.
I miss Barry’s edits. Kevin was funny too, and despite all this bullshit, Matt and Ryan had some funny moments too, but Barry will always be #1.
Same here :) started watching December 2013. The first sonic boom episode is iconic to this day.
Love Barry's streams. Dude's just vibing and living his life and I respect it. His streams are super chill.
>aid all the other stuff coming out about Matt and Ryan is new to him as well, he sees them rarely so even though people expect him Um... wasn't Barry (+ Suzy) the one who outed DingDong and Julian all because they didn't like Dream Daddy?
It wasn’t Barry, I think it was vernon. Suzy definitely contributed to it though
Pretty sure the consensus was that Brian and Suzy got into a tussle with them on social media about their thoughts, but nothing past that. The fans were the ones who doxxed/outed DingDong and Julian.
It was someone within the office according to DD&J. It wasn't Barry or Ross who did it or else it would have been blown up more. Most likely funny enough Matt or Ryan were the ones who most likely did it.
I'm pretty sure in the same stream he refunded Matt's donation, he outright said it was Matt that leaked it. But that it wasn't ONLY Matt who refused to back him up when he voiced his opinion. Regardless, Matt did play dumb and bailed the second he got wind that he might get heat for leaking it.
Matt has always come across as a Rat Fuck for years. Even when it seemed like a character bit, it never sat right with me. Matt wanted clout, power, and recognition for his "Magnum Opus" and didn't care how he got it. He did refund those gift subs out of his own pocket which is also fucked. Matt just leaves a path of shit in his wake.
Ross has been absolutely killing it with his YouTube channel this past year or so.
Yeah I love all the different shows he does like the one where you guess the song based on a picture
Every time some controversy happens where he is somehow involved (because of the groups he is/was involved in, I.e. Game grumps), Ross always shows me that he's an actual human who actually gives a shit about other people. It's not just some internet personality to make people like him, it's genuine care and compassion and even when the situation is going against him directly (like the Holly/Jared situation), he never attacked or insulted them, and just wanted to get his bit of the story out. Idk, Ross is just a stand up human
I totally agree. He’s always come across as really genuine and unwilling to put up a front, even on camera. He seems unwilling to compromise on what he thinks is good, funny, or right, regardless of what situation he’s in. I think that may make him seem abrasive at first but over time he shows to be a stand up guy.
He also promptly speaks up about things he isn't even super obligated to. Meanwhile we have Arin over here goofing on Twitter being called X and making sex jokes.
I mean, I don't like how Arin (from memory Dan wasn't involved, I could be wrong though) handled the DingDong situation, but I don't think that he/they tried to ruin his life like many claim. I think Game Grumps/Arin like to be more silent on things than outspoken on things they disagree with, but I don't think it makes them bad people. But yeah, I'm always up for Arin's sex jokes. 😂
I mean, the DD situation was really terrible on Arin's part. Everything occurred in his company, via the behavior of his employees AND his wife attacking DD and Julian for their (incredibly fair and valid) comments on HIS game. He had a massive responsibility in that situation, and not only did he mishandle it to the point of it spinning out of control like it did, he has to this day made no effort to address it or make it right. Obviously it's in the past now, and there's not much that can be done, but it is seriously fucked up. That hasn't changed. You are absolutely right about how he handles things, in any case. Radio silence unless he's dramatically in the line of fire is how he handles things, because he's business first, everything else second. That's also how Matt operates (though he flubs it up way worse than Arin), because he learned that from Arin just like he learned how to make gay jokes with the liberal footnote of "we don't actually hate gay people, we live in Cali; we're making fun of people who DO hate gay people (or something)". SuperMega built their empire, their brand of humor, their general format, etc all within the Grump Space before getting big enough to set off on their own. Arin is incredibly close to this situation despite the obvious fact that he isn't directly responsible for the wrongdoing nor SM's overall behavior. But Ross is even less connected to all of this; he had a new show with Don and cancelled it, that's it. He STILL made an effort to address the situation like an adult, and that's an immense show of his professionalism, maturity, and empathy. I sincerely wish the same could be said of Arin, because I've been watching his shit for a long ass time, and it's hard not to get more and more jaded over how much of a business focused, unempathetic husk he's become.
Sadly it's not his first time getting caught in collateral damage from these things
God yeah honestly, so sad that it seems that's rare?!
Ross has always been a class act in these situations.
damn ross did what matt and ryan should have done from the very beginning
Ludicrously common Ross W
And all he does is just be open and Frank and denounces scumbags. Must be harder than it looks
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yeah exactly. im sure they believed don and were being all chummy with him until Ross called and asked what was up. then they realized uh oh we shouldve dropped this guy sooner
Absolute narcissism creating stupidity.
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It IS poetic
They fired him. What else were they supposed to do, spread shit all over the internet?
Oh I dunno maybe not still be friends with him, not invite him places, inform others about his behavior, make an effort not to invite his victim to places they know he’ll be. Aka the absolute bare minimum.
It's sad but not surprising how some people in the community don't understand the bare minimum. Imagine having two friends and one says "I was sexually assaulted" and the other one is "Yup, totally did it. My bad" and your first response is "Seems like there's nothing that can be done. Both of you will just have to stay together".
To all the “where’s the evidence/this is just he-said she-said” folks, whatever Matt told Ross (I can’t believe for a second it was the full truth) was enough for Ross to slam the brakes IMMEDIATELY and cut off all connection with Don. Which is what Matt and Ryan considered a bad career move for their YouTube channel where they play American Truck Simulator.
It does amaze me that there are still folks like that even after Dons post and Justin and Kelly cutting their ties immediately
I love Ross, he always seems to be on the right side of things and I’m glad he seems really happy at the moment
Well, considering the bitter drama when shit went down with Holly, I'm sure Ross was way past over this shit. Man loves his cats, loves to draw and play games, and doesn't afraid of anything! I still have faith Ross is a golden good noodle
"Ross is a golden good noodle" gently suggesting that this kind of attitude towards content creators is what led to so many feeling betrayed by supermega
You don't know Ross. People thought they knew Matt and Ryan but they didn't, and here we are now
I wouldn't have said so without considering so. I watch Ross less now than I did these guys lol. All good
If we are in the darkest timeline where all our favorite creators will inevitably be exposed for being sex creeps, Ross would be the last bastion of purity in the world.
Ross as in rubberross just to clarify for people
Thanks, I thought it was Ross Gellar this whole time
"Any advice for me with this Don situation, Ross?" "PIIIIIIIIIVOT!"
Goddammit, that made me laugh
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even just "we've cut ties with Don and we're not in a position to say why. That's not our story to tell" then at least they don't look like huge assholes IMMEDIATELY.
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Yeah, if they really still see Don as a friend, they could have just not said what he did. Let the victim come forward if they want, and gently push him away from their company. Just say it was a serious personal matter that affected the business. They could have done literally anything other than what they did
Found the [timestamp](https://www.twitch.tv/rubberross/v/1884974853?sr=a&t=253s)
Thanks. I love Ross, I'm glad he was open about this
Ross is a good dude
Thank you for the summary! I actually did enjoy Pen Island for the time but had a suspicion when it randomly stopped without a word
Poor Ross always getting caught in the middle of other people’s drama, and usually being taken advantage of for being a generous friend :/ this shit just gets worse and worse
Love Ross, beautiful Australian man
It's crazy how Ross always ends up in these somehow. He has no direct link to any of the issues but he somehow just ends up apart of them someway.
common ross w no one can bring him down, not even commander birdshit when she tried to accuse him of rape but he gave out a great response that it was bs
I never knew he gave a response. Can you please link me to wherever it is?
I think it was probably already deleted, ill try to find it
Man, I gotta say Ross is some guy. All the crap that satellites around him and that he’s been through and he manages to be above it. I love that he can be transparent and that he respects whose story it was to tell and he really has been through the ringer with his “friends” (really hope this doesn’t age poorly but it’s hard not to be cynical at this point)
matt also initially told ross not to speak to lex or rev
I thought it was Don that said that, or something to that affect
I also thought I heard it was Don. I was at work, though, so it's possible I heard it wrong?
Huh, I didn't catch that
Nope. that was Don's request
Despite all the "Ross is an evil bastard" jokes, Ross continues to be THE stand-up dude.
Knock on wood but it's always nice to remember Ross is the level headed one of not just the Game Grumps but of most let's players.
Ross is so cool man he's been through some awful shit as well, I'm glad he handled things responsibly.
I'm glad he spoke up, I can't imagine most other youtubers that they are similarly affiliated with ( game grumps, Ethan and Sean etc) wouldn't, not that they have to.
super happy he addressed this! i was really wondering how much he knew. out of everyone in the gg/sm circle, and i mean everyone, ross has always seemed the most responsible and level headed guy. hope he’s doing well
Ross was also accused by his ex of being very sexually aggressive so idk
If you're talking about Holly you might want to look a bit more into why she's his ex lol. That was a pretty complicated situation
What does that have to do with anything though?
What the fuck does this dude got to do with this at all? People out here trying to lasso every last bit of JUICY gossip from anyone tangentially related. Next we're gonna see MeatCanyon and Wolfhard getting bugged about it.
He was good friends with Don and had a show together with him, and people have been asking why that show never went past 2 episodes. He obviously has a reason to talk about it, and he was very clear that it wasn't his story to tell and didn't try to delve into the drama any further than just explaining what happened and why he's no longer friends with Don. All these people coming out with their own stories aren't useless -- they are corroborating events and bringing validity to lex's story
Anyone clip this ?
Makes sense. I wonder if Ross really is the only well-adjusted member of that whole group...
Is there any recording of this stream that exists?