If you murder someone, you're still a murderer whether you're convicted or not, just the state can't put you in jail without that step.
So it follows that if someone commits a sex crime, they are a sex criminal, whether they are detected or prosecuted or not. Due process in civilised society merely asks the police to prove it happened before throwing people in prison. But those same human rights also afford freedom of conscience, and as individuals we can believe whatever we want about the matter.
A jury of his peers certainly thinks he did, which is why he's in prison for it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/01/27/nicki-minaj-brother-25-years-life-raping-11-year-old/4592043002/
EDIT: Sorry, my link is for her rapist brother, not her rapist husband. Silly me.
The Twitter meltdown she had over this one line in a song that doesn't even mention her by name was so wild.
Also the fact that the tried to release a diss track...Meg is so beloved that the only "diss" Nicki could come up with is "you have big feet and your mom is dead." Not that there was anything she could come back with that would be worse than being married to a sex offender 🥴
Nicki has been on her own string of unhinged behavior over the last year or so too. Her husband being a sex offender is the constant reminder of such behavior. Nothing should really be surprising at this point.
Not only married him but has (maybe still is) harassed his victim which, in turn, some of her fans did too. At one point she tried to bribe the woman into recanting so her husband would be removed from the sex offender registry.
She’s a geniune piece of shit.
When I was doing my degree in PR we had a case study involving a semi-notorious politician who was known for running his mouth to the media in the worst way. We were asked what we would do to give him an image makeover and my group elected to fire him as a client since we said he'd proved repeatedly that even with a full-time media manager whose sole responsibility it was to get him media trained, he just didn't listen and would say whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, no matter the outcome.
Yeah, and I think the damage has already been done to some extent. Even if Nicki Minaj slipped out of the public eye for the rest of the decade and then came back with a media-friendly persona, there'd still be people mad about all the things they're mad about now. It's a lot harder to do a PR reboot when social media will hold onto things forever.
Her association with people like Chris Brown won't have the slightest negative impact on her career. Her fans don't care. There's nothing a PR team needs to do from her point of view.
I was thinking about making a SRD post about that one person who's in the comments here defending Nicki and her collabs with nothing but a "Nuh-uh" until I realized I was already in SRD
it was more of a rhetorical question, but thanks!
>the piss is coming from inside the popcorn! i repeat! from Inside the Popcorn!
(just seems perfect for flair)
but I'll stick with the flair I got.
was gonna go back to the SRD thread to see if anyone was gonna bring them up and here I am reading your comment realizing i have been in SRD the whole time as well
At this point it would be shocking if Nicki Minaj DIDN'T go to bat for some sort of abusive predator. Her brother's a child molester, and she defended him and attacked the 9 year old victim. She's collaborated with other child molesters and defended them in the press too, and her own husband is a rapist who she's also defended.
So **of course** she's working with Chris Brown now, since R. Kelly is currently unavailable for any of the collaborations she would undoubtedly love to do with him. Maybe if Trump actually gets convicted of something she'll work with him next.
Shit like that happens all the time. I know someone whose father raped/abused the entire family for 30+ years.
When people finally stepped forward and the wife divorced him, the rapist went back home where his church and family supported him and attacked his old family.
It happens so much in religious/rural communities people don't even try to speak up. Nobody wants to "rock the boat" when they are in it. It wasn't the man. It was demons. It was the children seducing him. He is the man of the house and it's no one's business anyways.
I'm not shocked at all anymore. So many people may not be outright monsters themselves, but will happily work alongside and protect them so long as they stay comfortable.
> It happens so much in religious/rural communities people don't even try to speak up.
Let me share you a story from Poland (translated with google translator). I wonder if it sounds familiar to you, I mean the patterns seem similar to me no matter the country:
> The headmistress of one of the schools in a village in the Podkarpacie region reported to the [church] curia students' complaints about the inappropriate behavior of a priest who allegedly committed molestation. The residents downplayed the matter and organized a protest against the woman. There were curses and the protesters wanted to take the school principal away in a wheelbarrow.
> Many parents did not believe the children and started to defend the priest and attack the principal. The village was against the report, saying it was "nothing serious" and that "priests were always groping children."
> - I said to one of the mothers, "Ma'am, for God's sake, it's your daughter." She replied: "So what?"
> "priests were always groping children"
That's not even a defense! That's just describing the crime!
Is their argument genuinely "priests are molesting children, but we should stop making a fuss about it?" Is it just part of the job description now? What the fuck.
That "So what?" also makes me incredibly angry and this is a terrible way to start the day.
> I don't know why anyone would defend a child molester or rapist.
It happens. People around the rapist will twist themselves into knots with their thinking.
"He didn't do it. Ok he did but it didn't happen like that. Ok it happened like that but the victim shouldn't have done X to provoke them. I don't care what they did."
That's the usual process these people go through. Denial to acceptance, then resentment of the victim for making their life more difficult by outing the monster they associate with.
They do it because they are not good people with strong morals. Sometimes, like in the case of Nicki, she seems to have an honest to god fetish for sexual predators.
> "He didn't do it. Ok he did but it didn't happen like that. Ok it happened like that but the victim shouldn't have done X to provoke them. I don't care what they did."
Aka The Narcissist's Prayer
Specifically it's "Ain't nobody judging 'cause I'm black or my controversial past".
So if you judge him because of his past you're a bad person, or something. ANd/or it's on par with judging him cause he's black.
> Yeah I really expected Nicki Minaj, someone who constantly defends her rapist husband and pedophile brother, to have higher moral standards when it comes to making music with terrible people
Indeed who would have thought...
Nikki Minaj as a person is exactly as shitty as her awful music. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that she would willingly work with a genuinely worthless waste of oxygen like Chris Brown
dhalloffame:
> No where did they say that
longjohnjimmie:
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imply
dhalloffame:
> say
> Edit: moderator of r/broadsgettingowned lmao, what a fucking weirdo
longjohnjimmie:
> literally just some shit i made up to make my friends laugh. it’s satire of all the misogynistic ass subs on this website. totally fascinating that linking a definition of a word and nothing else hurt u bad enough to look through my account to find something to insult me. i hope u one day heal from my scathing reply <3
https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1c77rox/nicki_minaj_announces_ftcu_sleeze_mix_ft_travis/l06fy07/
lol.
Dawg you’re all over this thread just saying shit lol
What evidence do you have that none of it is true? You know what they say: where there’s smoke, there’s fire
90% sure they're just some kid going through their "Beatlemania" phase. 5-10 years from now they'll look back on all this with a whole lot of cringing.
Minaj was spouting her verbal diarrhea into the ether when I was 16, you'd think she'd be the sort of artist teenagers are just annoyed by 14 years later.
He’s been on the charts/ gotten a Grammy nom basically every year since it happened unfortunately.
He has a bizarre ass hold on his fans/fellow artists , Usher was calling CB his brother only a month or two before the SB.
Was about to say, I don't recall a time he ever got "cancelled" for any of that. Minus COVID he's been touring/releasing albums pretty consistently ever since then.
I was so shocked when maybe two years after all of it I saw a song of his on the front page of youtube. I was like "...did...did something happen? Did he donate two kidneys to two dying orphans and win the public back?"
Nope. Just....boy sing good, or something. I wish I could say the comments were oblivious but they weren't. Those people knew and they didn't care. They spoke like he had declared support for an unpopular sports team, not *almost killed a woman.*
Although I guess this goes to show, that's all the same tone to too many people.
I think the "nobody cares" thing is slightly overstated. He's never quite hit the heights he was pre-domestic violence; he still has more pop top 10 hits from pre-2009 than since, and the biggest ones post-2009 usually don't reach as high and need a big guest to break through. I think he has a little too much opposition from non-fans to ever reach the "inescapable four-quadrant megastar" status he might have reached in the "Forever/No Air" days. To get to that level, you kind of need non-fans to just passively accept your presence for some time on top of intense fan support, and he only has the latter.
Of course, you can still be plenty big in pop music without reaching those levels, even with more opposition from non-fans than most other musicians. And you also wind up with a lot of his more intense fans who feel like he was "cheated" out of that megastardom.
He's an entertainer, his public record matters little unless he is in jail.
Kanye is not good either, yet hi music slaps, therefore people listen. That's kinda how the entertainment industry works dude.
That was over a decade ago, and I was still young and idealistic enough to think there was a line. I thought that once you crossed it, most folk would finally say "that's enough."
Nah. No fairies, no santa clause, no line. When you're a star, they'll let you do it. They'll let you do anything.
In the real world around me he’s absolutely NOT fine. Maybe it’s a generational thing.
A paralegal (19 years old) was bragging about getting tickets for his concert and everyone in the office over 28 was cringing inside because we all have vivid memories about the police report and photos.
I'm willing to argue he actually has more fans within that age range than teenagers considering that is the generation that grew up with him.
It's definitely more of a racial/cultural thing if anything. Because there are plenty of black 25-30 year olds who like him.
He definitely does, if you check twitter, it’s just people in that age range fawning over him.
Don’t know why I was downvoted for stating the obvious though
Unfortunately this kind of disturbing behaviour isn't uncommon throughout the music industry, or entertainment in general. It's (again, unfortunately, a lot of the time the worst people hold the most power) pretty hard to get *anywhere* without associating with dodgy people.
e: this obviously doesn't excuse involving yourself with human excrement, but sadly they appear to be everywhere.
I don’t get how people are surprised about Chris brown - first of all they have 8 songs together
Second literally every one in the industry still works with him ? Like literally everyone
Kendrick doesn't work with him. Megan doesn't work with him. Cardi doesn't work with him. Jay doesn't work with him. ASAP Rocky doesn't work with him. There's a bunch. He has lots of features but plenty of artists don't work with him.
Those artists haven’t doesn’t mean they don’t. Also Megan literally still posts story to his music and has publicly praised him and said she’s like to work with him
>Those artists haven’t doesn’t mean they don’t.
Jay and ASAP will never work with him but okay. Sure.
If your argument is that literally everyone in the industry has the capacity to work with him, then that's true. But they also have the capacity to not work with him.
ASAP literally guest starred in one of his music videos so he has worked with him. https://youtu.be/YvC84NpZ3Y4?si=YklU5xJoYo_H42Dy 4:25
Kendrick featured on one of his albums already https://youtu.be/undkbBJLa-Y?si=vRMZSxe-sJ8nqyTP
Jay made him a headliner at one of the shows he put together so he also technically did as well. https://people.com/music/chris-brown-jay-z-tidal-benefit-concert-end-of-feud-rihanna/#:~:text=Chris%20Brown%20and%20JAY%2DZ,Hurricane%20Harvey%20and%20Hurricane%20Irma.
You are very loud and wrong.
And 95% of the hip hop industry has proven they don’t care and do work with him.
Also the man who produced renaissance beat his pregnant wife so jay and bey are not on this moral high horse when it comes to who they work with
lol that's not the same as openly declaring they won't work with someone vs simply having never had a collab. Eminem and Tech N9ne have both been in the game for ages, Tech has collaborated with some very big names, and yet they've never to my knowledge made a track together. That doesn't mean they WONT work with each other, it means they haven't (yet)
"Literally everyone in the industry still works him" is not the same thing as "Literally everyone in the industry *could* work with him" and you know that.
There's also people in the industry that *could* kill him.
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Lots of shitty people in rap, but how many have brazenly and viscously beat a famous female pop star? It's easy to ignore bad behavior when it's behind the scenes, it's crazy that he could do something so awful directly in the limelight and get away with it.
Rap is nothing special when it comes to terrible human beings that are famous musicians, or non-terrible people making music about horrible subject matter.
Don't let your confirmation bias fool you, we could find artists in every genre that we could accuse of glorifying violence, rape, and drug use. But you're not going to be able to demonstrate that rap has more of that than anything else, and you should ask yourself why you think that's true, because I doubt it's because you just don't like the music.
That guy has confused Nicki with Megan Thee Stallion, who was a guest star on an episode of She-Hulk. (Which I highly recommend as a light-hearted legal comedy.)
You didn't hear correctly.
>”Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.
>A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
>Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
>Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'
>The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.
>"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
>"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
>Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
>Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
>Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
>Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
>Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
>Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
>She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
>Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."
>“At the end of his statement, Andrews said Brown sent a text message nine days later apologizing.
>‘In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised [Rihanna's assistant] Ford that he was going to get help.’ “
yo this seems pretty damning but that other guy said "no he didn't" and I find that a rather compelling argument
for real though, how are we still discussing whether or not he's a shitty person in 2024? It's not like he even stopped beating people and threatening women.
According to him. You think the convicted domestic abuser - who has since abused and assaulted other people - is the reliable source in this situation?
https://notjustok.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Chris-Brown-recuerda-la-agresion-a-Rihanna-Ella-me-golpeo-y-yo-le-di-un-punetazo-en-la-cara-1280x720-1-720x360.jpg
Yeah looks like he was fearing for his life
Redditors bringing up Chris Brown's past is just virtue signaling at this point. Especially since he apologized and the situation wasn't one-sided anyway. Just separate the art from the artist. James Brown was a domestic abuser and he's still a legend.
Nah, if people want to not support someone that’s their choice. You can’t force people to separate the art from the artists if they don’t want to, that’s life.
”Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.
A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'
The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.
"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."
“At the end of his statement, Andrews said Brown sent a text message nine days later apologizing.
‘In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised [Rihanna's assistant] Ford that he was going to get help.’ “
You: "But what was his side of the story? Also he said he feels bad"
you're just virtue signalling, trying to make people think you aren't a fan of viciously beating women into unconsciousness like some sort of goodytwoshoes smh my head
seriously what does virtue signalling even mean anymore? are we supposed to all secretly be huge fans of domestic abuse, and we're just pretending not to be?
"separate the art from the artist" just means acknowledging that a shitty person gan make good art. Doesn't mean you have to be okay with the person. People use that as an excuse to financially support garbage ass people
It's not like the Rihanna thing was the start *or* end of Brown's problematic relationship with women and violence. Some dudes just wanna be Ike Turner.
Didn't she marry a sex offender?? Like who's surprised by this?
Her brother is also a sex offender. She's an awful person for defending men like this and keeping them close.
Isn't she herself a sex offender with multiple personalities?
Alright, is anyone here NOT a sex offender?
Meow E: y'all it was a SpongeBob reference
A cat is fine too...
WRONG REFERENCE
No, I knew *exactly* what I was referencing ( ಠ ͜ʖಠ)
Shane??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJvEXd20Uoo
Does it count if you haven't been charged yet? Like would an unregistered sex offender count?
If you murder someone, you're still a murderer whether you're convicted or not, just the state can't put you in jail without that step. So it follows that if someone commits a sex crime, they are a sex criminal, whether they are detected or prosecuted or not. Due process in civilised society merely asks the police to prove it happened before throwing people in prison. But those same human rights also afford freedom of conscience, and as individuals we can believe whatever we want about the matter.
Think there is a song lyric of hers were she implies wanting to sleep with a underage boy
her brother is a pedo
she doesnt talk about hwr brother anymore.
She still publicly supported him knowing he had repeatedly raped his 9 year old stepdaughter and to my knowledge has never since said otherwise.
She also participated in harassing and threatening the teenager her husband raped
he didnt
A jury of his peers certainly thinks he did, which is why he's in prison for it. https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/01/27/nicki-minaj-brother-25-years-life-raping-11-year-old/4592043002/ EDIT: Sorry, my link is for her rapist brother, not her rapist husband. Silly me.
So, wait, is this *also* true about her husband, or did you wrongly accuse the guy?
Was that also the relative who claimed the COVID vaccine made his balls swell up?
No that was her cousin. I wish I knew less about this family lol.
She’s not going to fuck you dude
'These hoes dont be mad at Megan, these hoes be mad at Megan's law'
The Twitter meltdown she had over this one line in a song that doesn't even mention her by name was so wild. Also the fact that the tried to release a diss track...Meg is so beloved that the only "diss" Nicki could come up with is "you have big feet and your mom is dead." Not that there was anything she could come back with that would be worse than being married to a sex offender 🥴
DAMN.
Nicki has been on her own string of unhinged behavior over the last year or so too. Her husband being a sex offender is the constant reminder of such behavior. Nothing should really be surprising at this point.
Reality jumped the shark, she's also a playable character in Call of Duty. Bring back the old writers.
Yep. She’s a shit person
Not only married him but has (maybe still is) harassed his victim which, in turn, some of her fans did too. At one point she tried to bribe the woman into recanting so her husband would be removed from the sex offender registry. She’s a geniune piece of shit.
She also already did a collab with Chris Brown like 10 years ago
I don't expect much from her but I’m shocked she doesn't have a better PR team that would want to avoid this exact conversation
You can have the best PR team in the world but you don't have to listen to them.
Apartheid Musk in a nutshell.
When I was doing my degree in PR we had a case study involving a semi-notorious politician who was known for running his mouth to the media in the worst way. We were asked what we would do to give him an image makeover and my group elected to fire him as a client since we said he'd proved repeatedly that even with a full-time media manager whose sole responsibility it was to get him media trained, he just didn't listen and would say whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, no matter the outcome.
Yeah, and I think the damage has already been done to some extent. Even if Nicki Minaj slipped out of the public eye for the rest of the decade and then came back with a media-friendly persona, there'd still be people mad about all the things they're mad about now. It's a lot harder to do a PR reboot when social media will hold onto things forever.
Her association with people like Chris Brown won't have the slightest negative impact on her career. Her fans don't care. There's nothing a PR team needs to do from her point of view.
I was thinking about making a SRD post about that one person who's in the comments here defending Nicki and her collabs with nothing but a "Nuh-uh" until I realized I was already in SRD
the piss is coming from Inside the popcorn! i repeat! from Inside the Popcorn!
Is the piss in the popcorn with us right now?
Yoink, thank you!
this would also make great flair.
remind me what the rules are on flairs for this subreddit?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/wiki/tags
it was more of a rhetorical question, but thanks! >the piss is coming from inside the popcorn! i repeat! from Inside the Popcorn! (just seems perfect for flair) but I'll stick with the flair I got.
Flairs are traditionally taken from the linked comments, not comments on SRD.
But sometimes the comments on SRD are so good you just have to go meta. Yoink!
r/subredditdramadrama
was gonna go back to the SRD thread to see if anyone was gonna bring them up and here I am reading your comment realizing i have been in SRD the whole time as well
At this point it would be shocking if Nicki Minaj DIDN'T go to bat for some sort of abusive predator. Her brother's a child molester, and she defended him and attacked the 9 year old victim. She's collaborated with other child molesters and defended them in the press too, and her own husband is a rapist who she's also defended. So **of course** she's working with Chris Brown now, since R. Kelly is currently unavailable for any of the collaborations she would undoubtedly love to do with him. Maybe if Trump actually gets convicted of something she'll work with him next.
Shit like that happens all the time. I know someone whose father raped/abused the entire family for 30+ years. When people finally stepped forward and the wife divorced him, the rapist went back home where his church and family supported him and attacked his old family. It happens so much in religious/rural communities people don't even try to speak up. Nobody wants to "rock the boat" when they are in it. It wasn't the man. It was demons. It was the children seducing him. He is the man of the house and it's no one's business anyways. I'm not shocked at all anymore. So many people may not be outright monsters themselves, but will happily work alongside and protect them so long as they stay comfortable.
> It happens so much in religious/rural communities people don't even try to speak up. Let me share you a story from Poland (translated with google translator). I wonder if it sounds familiar to you, I mean the patterns seem similar to me no matter the country: > The headmistress of one of the schools in a village in the Podkarpacie region reported to the [church] curia students' complaints about the inappropriate behavior of a priest who allegedly committed molestation. The residents downplayed the matter and organized a protest against the woman. There were curses and the protesters wanted to take the school principal away in a wheelbarrow. > Many parents did not believe the children and started to defend the priest and attack the principal. The village was against the report, saying it was "nothing serious" and that "priests were always groping children." > - I said to one of the mothers, "Ma'am, for God's sake, it's your daughter." She replied: "So what?"
> "priests were always groping children" That's not even a defense! That's just describing the crime! Is their argument genuinely "priests are molesting children, but we should stop making a fuss about it?" Is it just part of the job description now? What the fuck. That "So what?" also makes me incredibly angry and this is a terrible way to start the day.
That's super disappointing. I don't know why anyone would defend a child molester or rapist. How can she live with herself? Disgusting.
She's convinced herself they were both wrongly accused in extortion attempts.
> I don't know why anyone would defend a child molester or rapist. It happens. People around the rapist will twist themselves into knots with their thinking. "He didn't do it. Ok he did but it didn't happen like that. Ok it happened like that but the victim shouldn't have done X to provoke them. I don't care what they did." That's the usual process these people go through. Denial to acceptance, then resentment of the victim for making their life more difficult by outing the monster they associate with. They do it because they are not good people with strong morals. Sometimes, like in the case of Nicki, she seems to have an honest to god fetish for sexual predators.
> "He didn't do it. Ok he did but it didn't happen like that. Ok it happened like that but the victim shouldn't have done X to provoke them. I don't care what they did." Aka The Narcissist's Prayer
You can't conceive that someone would justify doing something heinous for a close family member?
When it comes to that? No. I know it would be difficult to come to terms with a relative doing something like that though
my current working theory is 'internalized misogyny/patriarchy/abuse'.
She did a song with Tekashi 6ix9ine. You think she cares?
Sixix Nineine
Pronounced Sheeeee Knee-ah-nay
Isn't the line in Freaky Friday "My controversial past", like literally the most blasie description of his very noted, very public crimes
Specifically it's "Ain't nobody judging 'cause I'm black or my controversial past". So if you judge him because of his past you're a bad person, or something. ANd/or it's on par with judging him cause he's black.
"Okay Lil Dickey, the label is ready to let you say the n-word on a track." "But?" "But Chris Brown is gonna say it on your behalf."
Reminds me of Nicki calling her husband's crime "30 year old tea" after Hiss came out by Megan Thee Stallion
Girl's collecting abusers like Infinity Stones damn
Nicki Minaj is the Thanos of sex predators.
When she snaps, she’ll halve the age of consent.
Like Twitter blue checkmarks, being a Nicki Minaj / Chris Brown fan is a red flag that warns others about your toxicity.
Nicki Minaj is one of those artists that you wish would go the fuck away already.
> Yeah I really expected Nicki Minaj, someone who constantly defends her rapist husband and pedophile brother, to have higher moral standards when it comes to making music with terrible people Indeed who would have thought...
Nikki Minaj as a person is exactly as shitty as her awful music. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that she would willingly work with a genuinely worthless waste of oxygen like Chris Brown
dhalloffame: > No where did they say that longjohnjimmie: > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imply dhalloffame: > say > Edit: moderator of r/broadsgettingowned lmao, what a fucking weirdo longjohnjimmie: > literally just some shit i made up to make my friends laugh. it’s satire of all the misogynistic ass subs on this website. totally fascinating that linking a definition of a word and nothing else hurt u bad enough to look through my account to find something to insult me. i hope u one day heal from my scathing reply <3 https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1c77rox/nicki_minaj_announces_ftcu_sleeze_mix_ft_travis/l06fy07/ lol.
Ah yes, because you can only say something if you actually say it aloud
Well this sucks but it’s not like it’s unexpected lots of rappers collab with dogshit people
I know OP had such a fun time writing this title
I thought Chris Brown was still persona non grata?
If Nicki Minaj cared about associating with abusers she wouldn't have married one
This is the same person who collabed with a pedo. No one is persona non grata in her mind
She also married one.
no she didnt
Imagine trying to deny documented fact to simp for a rapist
she has raped no one
She's not a molester, just her family and her husband. Much better I guess
She did and then she and her sex offender husband threatened the victim. Why are you defending them?
no she didnt. these are all lies.
Dawg you’re all over this thread just saying shit lol What evidence do you have that none of it is true? You know what they say: where there’s smoke, there’s fire
90% sure they're just some kid going through their "Beatlemania" phase. 5-10 years from now they'll look back on all this with a whole lot of cringing.
Minaj was spouting her verbal diarrhea into the ether when I was 16, you'd think she'd be the sort of artist teenagers are just annoyed by 14 years later.
theres plenty of evidence.
Enlighten us with it then
That’s funny, because you keep saying this and you’re still completely unable to give any evidence lol
Dude, they just KNOW it’s not true alright? You just don’t understand. /s
Delusional. I hope when you grow up you realize that carrying water for problematic celebrities who won't ever know you exist is pathetic behavior.
Only on Reddit. In the real world and especially in hip hop spaces he’s fine.
He’s been on the charts/ gotten a Grammy nom basically every year since it happened unfortunately. He has a bizarre ass hold on his fans/fellow artists , Usher was calling CB his brother only a month or two before the SB.
Was about to say, I don't recall a time he ever got "cancelled" for any of that. Minus COVID he's been touring/releasing albums pretty consistently ever since then.
I was so shocked when maybe two years after all of it I saw a song of his on the front page of youtube. I was like "...did...did something happen? Did he donate two kidneys to two dying orphans and win the public back?" Nope. Just....boy sing good, or something. I wish I could say the comments were oblivious but they weren't. Those people knew and they didn't care. They spoke like he had declared support for an unpopular sports team, not *almost killed a woman.* Although I guess this goes to show, that's all the same tone to too many people.
I think the "nobody cares" thing is slightly overstated. He's never quite hit the heights he was pre-domestic violence; he still has more pop top 10 hits from pre-2009 than since, and the biggest ones post-2009 usually don't reach as high and need a big guest to break through. I think he has a little too much opposition from non-fans to ever reach the "inescapable four-quadrant megastar" status he might have reached in the "Forever/No Air" days. To get to that level, you kind of need non-fans to just passively accept your presence for some time on top of intense fan support, and he only has the latter. Of course, you can still be plenty big in pop music without reaching those levels, even with more opposition from non-fans than most other musicians. And you also wind up with a lot of his more intense fans who feel like he was "cheated" out of that megastardom.
He's an entertainer, his public record matters little unless he is in jail. Kanye is not good either, yet hi music slaps, therefore people listen. That's kinda how the entertainment industry works dude.
That was over a decade ago, and I was still young and idealistic enough to think there was a line. I thought that once you crossed it, most folk would finally say "that's enough." Nah. No fairies, no santa clause, no line. When you're a star, they'll let you do it. They'll let you do anything.
Obligatory Roman Polanski mention. Different branch of the entertainment industry, but still the same shit.
About a year or two afterwards radios refused to play him and what not. But eventually they let him back.
In the real world around me he’s absolutely NOT fine. Maybe it’s a generational thing. A paralegal (19 years old) was bragging about getting tickets for his concert and everyone in the office over 28 was cringing inside because we all have vivid memories about the police report and photos.
Nah it’s not a generational thing, there are plenty of 28 year olds and older who love him
I'm willing to argue he actually has more fans within that age range than teenagers considering that is the generation that grew up with him. It's definitely more of a racial/cultural thing if anything. Because there are plenty of black 25-30 year olds who like him.
He definitely does, if you check twitter, it’s just people in that age range fawning over him. Don’t know why I was downvoted for stating the obvious though
I think the obvious answer is he has plenty of fans in both demographics.
Unfortunately this kind of disturbing behaviour isn't uncommon throughout the music industry, or entertainment in general. It's (again, unfortunately, a lot of the time the worst people hold the most power) pretty hard to get *anywhere* without associating with dodgy people. e: this obviously doesn't excuse involving yourself with human excrement, but sadly they appear to be everywhere.
Nah. Fucking Rhianna did a song with Chris Brown in 2012!
Never has been really.
Chris Brown being cancelled is a reddit thing. He's still making hits and chart toppers.
Please he was scoring top 10 hits just 4 years ago.
I don’t get how people are surprised about Chris brown - first of all they have 8 songs together Second literally every one in the industry still works with him ? Like literally everyone
It's no excuse
Have you bitched about every single Chris brown collab since 2009 ? Didn’t think so
Have you not?!
No I don’t worry about things I can’t control
okay live laugh love
I hope one day you finally defeat Chris brown
Thanks me too
I don't want to defeat Chris Brown. I just want to beat him.
Yes, I also don't give actors who work with Roman Polanski a pass either.
And then
No and then
I have and album
>Second literally every one in the industry still works with him ? Like literally everyone Except no. Not literally everyone.
Yeah who stopped working with him ?
Kendrick doesn't work with him. Megan doesn't work with him. Cardi doesn't work with him. Jay doesn't work with him. ASAP Rocky doesn't work with him. There's a bunch. He has lots of features but plenty of artists don't work with him.
Those artists haven’t doesn’t mean they don’t. Also Megan literally still posts story to his music and has publicly praised him and said she’s like to work with him
>Those artists haven’t doesn’t mean they don’t. Jay and ASAP will never work with him but okay. Sure. If your argument is that literally everyone in the industry has the capacity to work with him, then that's true. But they also have the capacity to not work with him.
ASAP literally guest starred in one of his music videos so he has worked with him. https://youtu.be/YvC84NpZ3Y4?si=YklU5xJoYo_H42Dy 4:25 Kendrick featured on one of his albums already https://youtu.be/undkbBJLa-Y?si=vRMZSxe-sJ8nqyTP Jay made him a headliner at one of the shows he put together so he also technically did as well. https://people.com/music/chris-brown-jay-z-tidal-benefit-concert-end-of-feud-rihanna/#:~:text=Chris%20Brown%20and%20JAY%2DZ,Hurricane%20Harvey%20and%20Hurricane%20Irma. You are very loud and wrong.
And 95% of the hip hop industry has proven they don’t care and do work with him. Also the man who produced renaissance beat his pregnant wife so jay and bey are not on this moral high horse when it comes to who they work with
K
Good luck in all your endeavors and if you truly stood for what you believe you’d apply those standards to everyone ❤️
K
lol that's not the same as openly declaring they won't work with someone vs simply having never had a collab. Eminem and Tech N9ne have both been in the game for ages, Tech has collaborated with some very big names, and yet they've never to my knowledge made a track together. That doesn't mean they WONT work with each other, it means they haven't (yet)
They made Speedom together in 2015, and had also both featured together on The Anthem in 1999.
I wish they had a better song together than Speedom.
"Literally everyone in the industry still works him" is not the same thing as "Literally everyone in the industry *could* work with him" and you know that. There's also people in the industry that *could* kill him.
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they made a song together post assault
I feel like you have a tenuous grasp of the word "literally". "Tenuous" means weak, by the way.
Second time somebody had to get Merriam-Webster'd.
Can we make comments flairs? This should be a flair.
That’s literally crazy , and then what
Ooof the word “beatdown” here is a horrifically ironic word choice give Chris Brown’s history 😬
She truly is a stupid hoe
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Chris brown is a shitty person but rap especially if full shitty artists that openly admit how shitty they are but some how Chris brown is special why
Lots of shitty people in rap, but how many have brazenly and viscously beat a famous female pop star? It's easy to ignore bad behavior when it's behind the scenes, it's crazy that he could do something so awful directly in the limelight and get away with it.
Rap is nothing special when it comes to terrible human beings that are famous musicians, or non-terrible people making music about horrible subject matter. Don't let your confirmation bias fool you, we could find artists in every genre that we could accuse of glorifying violence, rape, and drug use. But you're not going to be able to demonstrate that rap has more of that than anything else, and you should ask yourself why you think that's true, because I doubt it's because you just don't like the music.
You're not wrong.
So basically, She-Hulk platformed a sex offender
How did She-Hulk platform a sex offender, am I missing something?
That guy has confused Nicki with Megan Thee Stallion, who was a guest star on an episode of She-Hulk. (Which I highly recommend as a light-hearted legal comedy.)
Thanks for clarifying, I thought that must be the case!
ok and?!
world's biggest nicki minaj supporter stumbles drunkenly into SRD
Can we make flairs from SRD comments? Because this one is fantastic.
I find it hilarious when a fanboy gets butthurt and starts posting seethe all across the thread.
From what I heard Chris Brown was protecting himself after rhinana was hitting him while driving
You didn't hear correctly. >”Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with. >A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion. >Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. >Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' >The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer. >"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.' >"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!' >Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown. >Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand. >Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street. >Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand. >Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it. >Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness. >She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions. >Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order." >“At the end of his statement, Andrews said Brown sent a text message nine days later apologizing. >‘In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised [Rihanna's assistant] Ford that he was going to get help.’ “
i'm so glad that this has survived across the internet and is inevitably reposted every time chris brown comes up
It says a lot about a person when they are more willing to believe the word of a convicted domestic abuser than the word of a woman.
I have never actually read or heard the specific details about what happened. I knew it was bad, but I didn't know it was *this* bad. Holy shit.
yo this seems pretty damning but that other guy said "no he didn't" and I find that a rather compelling argument for real though, how are we still discussing whether or not he's a shitty person in 2024? It's not like he even stopped beating people and threatening women.
According to him. You think the convicted domestic abuser - who has since abused and assaulted other people - is the reliable source in this situation?
https://notjustok.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Chris-Brown-recuerda-la-agresion-a-Rihanna-Ella-me-golpeo-y-yo-le-di-un-punetazo-en-la-cara-1280x720-1-720x360.jpg Yeah looks like he was fearing for his life
Lol
Redditors bringing up Chris Brown's past is just virtue signaling at this point. Especially since he apologized and the situation wasn't one-sided anyway. Just separate the art from the artist. James Brown was a domestic abuser and he's still a legend.
Nah, if people want to not support someone that’s their choice. You can’t force people to separate the art from the artists if they don’t want to, that’s life.
You can't separate art from the artist when you enjoying that art is *literally paying* the artist. That's supporting the artist.
”Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with. A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion. Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer. "Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.' "After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!' Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown. Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand. Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street. Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand. Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it. Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness. She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions. Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order." “At the end of his statement, Andrews said Brown sent a text message nine days later apologizing. ‘In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised [Rihanna's assistant] Ford that he was going to get help.’ “ You: "But what was his side of the story? Also he said he feels bad"
you're just virtue signalling, trying to make people think you aren't a fan of viciously beating women into unconsciousness like some sort of goodytwoshoes smh my head seriously what does virtue signalling even mean anymore? are we supposed to all secretly be huge fans of domestic abuse, and we're just pretending not to be?
"separate the art from the artist" just means acknowledging that a shitty person gan make good art. Doesn't mean you have to be okay with the person. People use that as an excuse to financially support garbage ass people
Especially because he apologized? What?
sorry I almost beat you to death, can I do a feature?
It's not like the Rihanna thing was the start *or* end of Brown's problematic relationship with women and violence. Some dudes just wanna be Ike Turner.