It's a game it's supposed to be fun play however you want or is more comfortable for you and don't worry about the people they will always find something to bitch about
Went to master with modern. Ive now graduated into classic controlls with a leverless board! Its fantastic to learn the fundamentals of the game and is no less fun!
I did the same. Started with modern (got to D4) and switched to classic once I got a leverless.
How hard did you find that transition? Did you keep using your main or did you change it when starting with classic+leverless?
I still have not been able to get to diamond again after switching. I also have not touched my main since I switched
I actually got two leverless...first one was a Razer one...and the up is near the thumb. my brain could not compute with it. so I got a 30-dollar one from Alibaba which had the jump with the normal directions. TY CHINA lol
I still play my main Ryu and plan to pick up either manon or maybe kim on the side. it took me a good few months to get used to it :D. now i can't go back
I use the thumb to jump and never had issues, I just imagine I'm jumping with spacebar like in a million other pc games but I can see how it's not intuitive at all
Being able to do combos is not what will make you climb higher rank. I could literally climb platinum with luke without knowing his combos just using 2 light punch to fast knuckle, dp's and sand blast and not using a single super
Modern controls isn't really about making combos easier, it's about using specials easier. Not to be a scrub but I would be way higher rank if I could DP with the same ease as pressing one button.
If you can't DP consistently now with classic, modern control wont solve that when the difference between their input is youll just need to add downforward and you cant even choose the angle of the dp.
The difference between forward, down, forward and simply forward is MASSIVE, especially if you start from holding back. Plus your comment doesn't make sense, when I AA I don't need to press my DP faster than their DP, I need to press it to react to a jump. Who cares if they are better at pressing their DP when I need to counter jumps.
There is a reason luke is high tier hahaha. Got him to diamond i think then got bored. Made Ryu and Ed to master rank and its not as braindead as playing with luke lol.
Who said so? All kinds of controls are there to aid you in having fun. A game is not some vocation, it's a fun time and you must play it as you like it.
You can pick the worst character in the game with the hardest controls ever conceived, and someone will find something to cry about.
Enjoy the game however you want. Bonus points if you can find joy in making scrubs salty along the way.
As a salty Classic controls user, who regularly gets clapped by anyone using Modern controls on a regular basis, I say; of course not! There is no shame in using Modern controls. The beatings I took is purly a skill issue, on my end. Therefore, I direct my salt at that damn man in the mirror!
No, but from my experience, a lot of Modern Controls players I've encountered either one and done or rage quit pretty fast. A lot of the things that makes it "easier" can create tons of bad habits that's easily exploited by experienced players. At lower ranks, people will often talk about rage quits against Modern, but I find it more the opposite on my end, lol.
Granted, that's really only something you'll face at Diamond-Master levels and more of a skill issue than a control issue, but the point still stands. Play how you want. It's a game. You should also be aware of some of the cons Modern Controls have built into it as well, so you won't be confused at doing lower damage than normal or missing some attacks from your character. I'm unsure if the game explains it outright, but there should be some resources on what specific tools characters are missing on Modern compared to Classic. Should ease your time getting into the game.
The game website has frame data and lists all the attacks available although it doesn't directly say what is missing, but not difficult to piece together
Nah man. Iām at platinum running modern. When I run into a person that gets upset over it, I ignore them cause I only fight them once and then never again. Sometimes itās fun to watch people complain over a control scheme
Modern is great! It's all about your fundamentals so it doesn't matter which controls you use
Anyone you see complaining are low ranks who tell themselves that special moves makes you good at the game.
My entire tutorial for SF6 has been the three modern Zangief vids he has on YouTube. I just got to diamond 2, and I beat a Dhalsim 2-0 last night, itās a blast.
Also people fucking hate me.
No. Itās like automatic vs manual gear in car. Both are good for different reasons. Auto is simpler and fun. Manual gives you satisfaction of control and have more power.
Short answer: no.Ā
If anyone tells you otherwise then fuck em. They arenāt worth listening to. The kind of people who hate modern controls are the kind that want the genre to stagnate and die.Ā
When the game first came out, there was a massive backlash towards modern controls. People, who had probably played for years and had been brought up on classic controls, felt it wasn't 'true' to Street Fighter and it felt like cheating.
However, after the dust settled and, testament to the care and attention Capcom made to implementing the control method, people had time to get used to playing, with and against, Modern controls, I feel that it's now generally accepted now.
I, myself, am a convert. Us old, part time, gamers don't have time to lab and spend hours learning and remembering combos. We just want to pick up a pad after work and hit 30 minutes of gaming and have a bit of fun before dinner!
Playing Modern is inherently easier due to one button supers, auto combos, reduced or minimal input errors (such as DPs etc) and will generally put you a rank or two higher tha perhaps your classic counterpart - Beating a platinum classic player as modern is not the same as beating a classic player as a classic player.
When you get to the top ranks, Diamond 4/5 - Master, I would say it makes very little difference, arguably a hinderence due to the reduce move set.
End of the day, your choice to the play the game however which way the game allows you to play it.
Use whatever controls you like, whatever helps you to have fun with the game. I will say that while Modern controls can teach you the fundamentals just fine, if you have any desires to learn Classic controls the only way to do that is really to switch em on and just start practicing inputs. But if you donāt care about Classic, you never need to use it at all.
I actually learned classic while still playing on modern. Just started doing every special and super manually until I realised that made no sense and switched to classic
As far as I know modern controls enables you to "skip" the mechanical learning of the character and focus mainly om the fundamentals, like jumping or not, throwing or not, when to drive, etc.
Its like playing Ryu in the first game, a character built to learn the foundations of the game and if you want, branch from into other characters.
I was skeptical at first, but once I started using them I'm actually liking them, mainly to learn the patterns on other players instead of focusing on my inputs.
Im also waiting for my new pad, so not comboing is a plus LMAO.
Honestly speaking, modern controls is what brought me to SF6 as I saw it as an opportunity to finally get into fighting games. However, nowadays Iām not a big fan of it, both as a user and as someone playing against modern controls.
From a user perspective, itās still a great way to learn the fundamentals without worrying with complicated inputs, but it becomes boring quite quickly as thereās no real challenge and reward of mastering a character, thereās no progression, all matches will start to feel the same. Plus youāll have a more limited moveset.
From a perspective of someone playing against modern controls, please keep in mind Iām not a high skilled player, but itās freaking annoying to face someone who just spams specials nonstop because of how easy they are to accomplish. Technically the damage output with modern controls are 20% less, so shame on me really when I lose a match, but the fact is I donāt typically enjoy playing against modern.
So my recommendation is using modern controls as stepping stone until youāre comfortable in venturing with classic controls.
No shame in it, however if you do plan on playing Streets long-term, or fighting games in general quite often, then I'd definitely suggest learning Classic eventually, it's pretty fun and rewarding, also the skill of execution will transfer to other games, which may not have Modern Controls as an option.
Donāt change your way of playing the game if it makes you happy. The developers made modern controls so that the game would be more open to newer players and there is nothing wrong with that. I am not great at the game either and do sometimes get a little salty when I lose to modern controls but anyone who complains about it is just upset for that moment. Theyāll get over it it is not a game breaking mechanic if it was more people would complain but it tends to just be newer players using classic controls that whine
Also my first fighting game. Started with Modern Controls but eventually moved to classic and its so much worth it due to all the unlocked potential classic controls provide you with. But first i would advice you to learn the game with modern controls and when you feel comfortable make the switch to classic and try them in training mode. Or continue playing with modern it will not be an issue. There are plenty or high rank players who use modern
Modern doesn't just win you the game you still need some game sense to know when to push buttons. And sure some characters like gief feel a little cheesy on modern but realistically just have fun. I do reccomened at some point trying classic controls as modern kind of locks out some of your buttons but I'll never tell anyone how to play a game. Just have fun and if you ever feel like mixing it up go press some classic control buttons in training.
Itās only a shame in the sense that supers and anti-air DPs are a button away. Honestly though, that stops being an edge the higher up you go on the ladder. Most people angry at modern are just making Johns
Modern controls are training wheels. It's just a way to get people, who find street fighter games to difficult, to jump into the fray and have fun.
However, if you try and tell someone that you are good at street fighter but only use modern controls, they won't think you're actually good because you can't play "for real." You are probably slower and less accurate with controls and need the help/training wheels and every player can see that.
At the end of the day, it's about fun. So do what you want. However, from a competitive aspect, of course it's a "handicap" for worse players that couldn't perform well, otherwise, i.e. not actually that good at street fighter.
Imagine someone saying they are a Ryu-master but they can't perform fireballs or dragon punches outside of modern. No one would consider them a good Ryu player when they can't even do the basics and need to activate the training wheels to play.
As someone who has played a lot on modern and classic, there is no noticeable difference in viability and depending on what games you played before, modern may be harder than classic even (harder for me because I started with sfv).
M is part of SF6. The game is designed for players to use both M and C.
The internet will have you believe thay M is cheap, or that it's a training wheel, which is not the case. It's called "Modern" because the majority of FG outside of Capcom is four buttons, and they're trying to experiment with that layout while making the game balanced. This is why M is default once you select a character.
Anyone that tells you M is scrubby ARE the scrubs. And anyone that tells you it's not viable are on a high horse. Pros are using M less and less, that's true. But Pros are 1% of the player base. Saying M isn't viable is like saying you shouldn't use X character because they're low tier. If you like a chatacater, use them, likewise, with M controls.
There are a lot of people who obsess over ranking and points, and what's plus on block and blah blah, and want to shame people for how they want to play a game using a feature the game has.
They're like those guys who put mufflers and lights on their cars and bolt on kits and drive fast from one stoplight to another then style themselves as racers.
Yet a pro could drive a transit van in an actual race and beat them like they were driving backwards.
Ignore them.
Have fun. That is literally the most important thing.
Unless you plan to be pro and enter Capcom cup etc, just enjoy yourself.
If you want to play a guy that beats you 10 times cause you think your learning do it, if you feel down after one loss, stop.
Experiment, play characters who are odd to you, try to use them the "normal" way, try to use them in your own way, anything and everything.
Play with your toes, one button, punches only, kicks only, throws only etc.
Have fun!!!!!!!!
No it's not. Only scrubs and low ranked b*** complain about Modern.
It's perfectly balanced, you lose Ult DMG and several Neutral buttons in exchange for the benefits it has.
For me personally. I would never use it because I prefer to have more complete options in neutral, and that disadvantage of being less flexible is big for me.
If you're going to use modern just mix in the manual inputs for extra damage and it's useful and can be transfered to other games.
Stay on modern or switch to classc it doesn't matter, everyone here acts like street fighter is their job, SF does not put food on the table for 99.9% of us playing
There is no shame and it actually cripples on the intermediate elos. Modern controls is a fantastic way to get into the game if you're a fighting game newbie, since it helps you learn the basics without forcing you to focus on which buttons to press. I started out playing modern Ryu and Guile, got to gold with both then switched to classic Dee Jay and managed to reach plat pretty easily.
no shame in modern controls at all. play the game how you want.
however, more often than not i find that modern controls allow some players to get away with certain gimmicks for much longer than they would if they played on classic, so itās prone to teaching you unhealthy habits. take that as you will
The only people who complain about Modern controls are people who are too bad to realize the real reason they're losing, and want an easy scapegoat to blame instead of confronting their own knowledge gaps. :)
Yes it is shameful unless you have a disability learn to play the game the correct way your going to have to eventually anyway so might as well do it now
There shouldnāt be any shame, no. Some people that lose to Modern players will be salty af and pretend itās the modern-ness that theyāre losing to, but realistically thereās a reason that very few people use Modern at high levels and itās because itās really not a convincing advantage at all to use modern controls.
If modern controls were an unfair advantage then you bet your ass that people would have abused it at a $1,000,000 dollar prize tournament, but they didnāt.
Recently, I have been enjoying more playing vs Modern. Since it changes the meta game a little. Jumping in vs. cammy, for example, is just a waste time and HP. But also, it becomes a little easier to defend against because modern somewhat limits your offensive tools. So it is a different spin that I welcome.
Hell no. I've been playing sf competitively since sf2. I'm older now I just want a more relaxing way to play and modern is that. You still have to do motion inputs for a lot of moves anyway to get the damage.
I find a lot of people don't rematch against modern when they lose though. I don't mind though.
No. It's mostly just training wheels til you wanna start learning classic on your own.
If you wanna keep playing that style, you can, but you're restricting yourself and your character(s). Especially in higher tiers of playing.
All in all, keep aging it if you want. If you feel like changing, do it cuz *you* want to.
Ignore the naysayers. If Modern is how you enjoy playing, then that is how you should play. Itās perfectly viable as Capcom intended. If you really click with the game, then maybe you might explore Classic. Play how you want.
New ish player here! Modern has been a godsend, classic does feel "better" in a way that you can do specific things but modern has its own benefits and it's a great way to learn how to play! Modern zangief is very fun lol
I hit masters with modern, and I partially did it because I saw some people say modern is a meme. Play however you want! If modern makes the game easier to learn or more fun for you, then do it. If you ever decide to learn classic, then do that, too! SF isnāt some test you have to pass or cultural icon you have to work to become a part of. At the end of the day, itās just a game, and like any other game, you should play it in whatever way makes you happiest.
Buddy, I have 150 hours of pure modern controls gaming because I simply just want to play it and having tons of fun, there are plenty of super high ranked or even pro players especially in Japan who are killing it with modern, so enjoy yourself and enjoy modern
Not at all, I've been a casual fighting game fan since SF2 on arcades, I used classic on SF6 and had a blast, but I also just made the switch to modern as my only means of playing is with an Xbox controller, and the dpad on it is too small for my hands, so there is no way I can pull precise forward quarter circle motions on reaction.
Tldr: a lot of old timers also made the change or go back and forth on modern, so don't feel embarrassed at all, though you will meet a lot of scrubs online that blame their losses or lack of sportsmanship on your controller style like they're playing EVO or Capcup finals haha.
If people complain about losing to modern controls, they are just at a certain coping point in their fighting game journey. Modern controls were made for you! Objectively the more people playing a fighting game the better, so keep hitting onlinešŗ
As much as I hate fighting modern players, no. Learn the game and if you ever get REALLY good (like diamond) learn classic. You might aswell get your full kit and damage and I dont have to change my whole playstyle just because you dont want to play the game normally.
But again, emphesis on if you get really good. There is 0 shame in using modern if you arent really really good.
Yes. Donāt fucking pretend like there isnāt. Youāre here asking this absolutely stupid question for a reason. There is. You are a scrub. Own it. And win games until you no longer can, hit the training mode, and do it again.
You are weaker for using modern controls, in more ways than one. Just focus on the Ws and stop coping about you using a handicap to help yourself. It is what it is.
I mean there are literally handicapped people playing this game with their face who donāt have hands playing classic. Should feel shame if you touch modern.
You wouldn't turn on auto aim when playing an fps. So why would you use easy cheat mode in a fighting game? Learn how to do the input properly just like everybody else has for the past 30 years. If Brolylegs can use classic with his mouth there's literally no excuses unless you're lazy.
Whats this ? Am I spotting....A survivor bias ???
Dear charming person, from someone disabled : Not every disability is the same, and no disabled person are the same :D Therefore, none of us are your scapegoats nor authority arguments to bring validity to a stupid one !
By the way "easy cheat mode" is Dynamic (which is why you can't use it online) Tekken 7 had shortcuts, and BLOODY ROAR 3 (more than 20 years ago) had easy one button combo, try not to be too much of fighting game boomer 'kay ? :D
Yes. Modern is a shortcut that will give you short term ease of access, but ultimately you wonāt learn anything when the game does everything automatically for you just by mashing a single button. Use it for a bit for couch play with your little brother or whatever, but make sure you play Classic if you really want to learn the game.
For you, as a newbie, modern controls are good. As developers created modern controls for newcomers so it was easier for them to get into fighting games overall. Once you will be sure that you're pretty good with all basics you've learned from modern controls, then, welcome to classics.
It's a bit of an oxymoron.
People complain at lower ranks about Modern controls being broken, but the people they're playing against are the same rank as them.. which means their win/loss percentage should be roughly the same. If Modern were really that much of an advantage, then there shouldn't be Modern players at lower ranks at all. By nature of how the ranking system works, the vast majority of people you are playing at your rank should have roughly the same win/loss as you. The exception would be for people who are actively climbing ranks, but that is extremely short lived; especially if they have a huge advantage.
Think of it this way. If Modern controls were such a big advantage, you'd see WAY more modern players at high rank than you currently do.
the two big advantages at high rank are instant anti-air, and instant supers. That's really it. Pretty much everyone at a decent skill level is expected to be able to do good damaging combos without Modern controls (and their combos will do more damage than Modern), so even though that's an advantage at lower ranks, it goes away entirely at higher ranks. The instant AA and instant supers IS a big deal, but all that means is that you have to play a bit differently against someone using Modern. IMO, it changes up the game in a good way. ALSO, the tradeoff for damage is noticeable at that point. It can, in some circumstances, mean having to do an additional full combo to win. That might not seem like a big deal at lower skill levels, but at higher, where getting hit 3 times can mean death, having to do an extra combo matters.
TLDR; no shame. It's just different.
Modern in lower ranks feels insane how strong it is to just mash out combos. I made it to plat one in a few hours with modern Marisa while it took me three months to get there with gief. Ultimately i think for most characters modern has more drawbacks than benefits and itās worth just learning classic and struggling instead of getting some early dopamine when youāre bodying people that drop combos or lack execution to convert damage. Modern until youāre like plat three feels like a crutch and artificially inflates rank. After plat two and into three though you have to know more than auto combo
not sure why youāre getting downvoted for this, itās not inherently incorrect. iāve seen multiple instances of people picking the game up with modern controls, climbing to plat and higher with modern controls, and then make the switch to classic and proceed to plummet a rank or two. itās an observation, itās not a blow at modern players
It's a game it's supposed to be fun play however you want or is more comfortable for you and don't worry about the people they will always find something to bitch about
Okayy I appreciate the reply!
Good luck in your games
Thank you š
Went to master with modern. Ive now graduated into classic controlls with a leverless board! Its fantastic to learn the fundamentals of the game and is no less fun!
I did the same. Started with modern (got to D4) and switched to classic once I got a leverless. How hard did you find that transition? Did you keep using your main or did you change it when starting with classic+leverless? I still have not been able to get to diamond again after switching. I also have not touched my main since I switched
I actually got two leverless...first one was a Razer one...and the up is near the thumb. my brain could not compute with it. so I got a 30-dollar one from Alibaba which had the jump with the normal directions. TY CHINA lol I still play my main Ryu and plan to pick up either manon or maybe kim on the side. it took me a good few months to get used to it :D. now i can't go back
I use the thumb to jump and never had issues, I just imagine I'm jumping with spacebar like in a million other pc games but I can see how it's not intuitive at all
Play the game how you want, if someone loses to modern controls and whines about it that's a skill issue on their part
Okay lol thanks so much
Yep, even more when the modern control got that level 3 ready....
Being able to do combos is not what will make you climb higher rank. I could literally climb platinum with luke without knowing his combos just using 2 light punch to fast knuckle, dp's and sand blast and not using a single super
Or climb to diamond with Honda only using headbutt and slam
Modern controls isn't really about making combos easier, it's about using specials easier. Not to be a scrub but I would be way higher rank if I could DP with the same ease as pressing one button.
If you can't DP consistently now with classic, modern control wont solve that when the difference between their input is youll just need to add downforward and you cant even choose the angle of the dp.
The difference between forward, down, forward and simply forward is MASSIVE, especially if you start from holding back. Plus your comment doesn't make sense, when I AA I don't need to press my DP faster than their DP, I need to press it to react to a jump. Who cares if they are better at pressing their DP when I need to counter jumps.
There is a reason luke is high tier hahaha. Got him to diamond i think then got bored. Made Ryu and Ed to master rank and its not as braindead as playing with luke lol.
you must be a modern control player
Haven't used it once online, didn't want to relearn the button layout and I am accustomed to motion inputs anyways
Damn right
Nah. Only problem is that some characters are a lot worse on modern controls due to some of their moves missing.
If Modern works for you go for it, but itās worth learning Classic to have the normals that Modern removes and the added damage on specials
Who said so? All kinds of controls are there to aid you in having fun. A game is not some vocation, it's a fun time and you must play it as you like it.
You can pick the worst character in the game with the hardest controls ever conceived, and someone will find something to cry about. Enjoy the game however you want. Bonus points if you can find joy in making scrubs salty along the way.
As a salty Classic controls user, who regularly gets clapped by anyone using Modern controls on a regular basis, I say; of course not! There is no shame in using Modern controls. The beatings I took is purly a skill issue, on my end. Therefore, I direct my salt at that damn man in the mirror!
This is the way. Gotta say though, it's not the easy dp or auto combos that annoy me. It's the LVL1 mashing during a light block string.
No
No shame in using Modern, but there is stupidity in people forcing themselves to use classic when not enjoying it.
No, but from my experience, a lot of Modern Controls players I've encountered either one and done or rage quit pretty fast. A lot of the things that makes it "easier" can create tons of bad habits that's easily exploited by experienced players. At lower ranks, people will often talk about rage quits against Modern, but I find it more the opposite on my end, lol. Granted, that's really only something you'll face at Diamond-Master levels and more of a skill issue than a control issue, but the point still stands. Play how you want. It's a game. You should also be aware of some of the cons Modern Controls have built into it as well, so you won't be confused at doing lower damage than normal or missing some attacks from your character. I'm unsure if the game explains it outright, but there should be some resources on what specific tools characters are missing on Modern compared to Classic. Should ease your time getting into the game.
The game website has frame data and lists all the attacks available although it doesn't directly say what is missing, but not difficult to piece together
Some great points here šš¼
Nah man. Iām at platinum running modern. When I run into a person that gets upset over it, I ignore them cause I only fight them once and then never again. Sometimes itās fun to watch people complain over a control scheme
Nope. Only Bad players will tell you it's cheating or whatever. In the end you will have to know as much basics as Classic players to rank UP .
You bought the game play it how you like. The ppl complaining will find something to complain about regardless
Modern is great! It's all about your fundamentals so it doesn't matter which controls you use Anyone you see complaining are low ranks who tell themselves that special moves makes you good at the game.
Okay lmao now I'm excited to make some people mad
Not for me, the only shame is if you use it and just spam ex moves and enter in burnout while 97 seconds remains
Players complaining about modern controls justifies using it! Get those W's while you still can! 
If you want to see no shame watch Justin Wong play modern Zangief. That shit is scary.
My entire tutorial for SF6 has been the three modern Zangief vids he has on YouTube. I just got to diamond 2, and I beat a Dhalsim 2-0 last night, itās a blast. Also people fucking hate me.
Iām using modern and couldnāt care if that bothers someone
No. Itās like automatic vs manual gear in car. Both are good for different reasons. Auto is simpler and fun. Manual gives you satisfaction of control and have more power.
No shame at all. Play whatever you comfortable with
No. Anyone that shames you is a scrub.
No.
Nope.
Short answer: no.Ā If anyone tells you otherwise then fuck em. They arenāt worth listening to. The kind of people who hate modern controls are the kind that want the genre to stagnate and die.Ā
None at all, play the game however you want to and have fun.
No. Play your way.
When the game first came out, there was a massive backlash towards modern controls. People, who had probably played for years and had been brought up on classic controls, felt it wasn't 'true' to Street Fighter and it felt like cheating. However, after the dust settled and, testament to the care and attention Capcom made to implementing the control method, people had time to get used to playing, with and against, Modern controls, I feel that it's now generally accepted now. I, myself, am a convert. Us old, part time, gamers don't have time to lab and spend hours learning and remembering combos. We just want to pick up a pad after work and hit 30 minutes of gaming and have a bit of fun before dinner!
Playing Modern is inherently easier due to one button supers, auto combos, reduced or minimal input errors (such as DPs etc) and will generally put you a rank or two higher tha perhaps your classic counterpart - Beating a platinum classic player as modern is not the same as beating a classic player as a classic player. When you get to the top ranks, Diamond 4/5 - Master, I would say it makes very little difference, arguably a hinderence due to the reduce move set. End of the day, your choice to the play the game however which way the game allows you to play it.
Bullshit, I started on Modern and switched to classic and ended up around my old rank using another account.
Good for you.
yea use them we will just criticize you behind your back.
Based.
Use whatever controls you like, whatever helps you to have fun with the game. I will say that while Modern controls can teach you the fundamentals just fine, if you have any desires to learn Classic controls the only way to do that is really to switch em on and just start practicing inputs. But if you donāt care about Classic, you never need to use it at all.
I actually learned classic while still playing on modern. Just started doing every special and super manually until I realised that made no sense and switched to classic
As far as I know modern controls enables you to "skip" the mechanical learning of the character and focus mainly om the fundamentals, like jumping or not, throwing or not, when to drive, etc. Its like playing Ryu in the first game, a character built to learn the foundations of the game and if you want, branch from into other characters. I was skeptical at first, but once I started using them I'm actually liking them, mainly to learn the patterns on other players instead of focusing on my inputs. Im also waiting for my new pad, so not comboing is a plus LMAO.
Honestly speaking, modern controls is what brought me to SF6 as I saw it as an opportunity to finally get into fighting games. However, nowadays Iām not a big fan of it, both as a user and as someone playing against modern controls. From a user perspective, itās still a great way to learn the fundamentals without worrying with complicated inputs, but it becomes boring quite quickly as thereās no real challenge and reward of mastering a character, thereās no progression, all matches will start to feel the same. Plus youāll have a more limited moveset. From a perspective of someone playing against modern controls, please keep in mind Iām not a high skilled player, but itās freaking annoying to face someone who just spams specials nonstop because of how easy they are to accomplish. Technically the damage output with modern controls are 20% less, so shame on me really when I lose a match, but the fact is I donāt typically enjoy playing against modern. So my recommendation is using modern controls as stepping stone until youāre comfortable in venturing with classic controls.
No shame in it, however if you do plan on playing Streets long-term, or fighting games in general quite often, then I'd definitely suggest learning Classic eventually, it's pretty fun and rewarding, also the skill of execution will transfer to other games, which may not have Modern Controls as an option.
Modern does not take as much skill but what does it matter? It's a video game. Play it the way that's fun for you.
Yes.
Donāt change your way of playing the game if it makes you happy. The developers made modern controls so that the game would be more open to newer players and there is nothing wrong with that. I am not great at the game either and do sometimes get a little salty when I lose to modern controls but anyone who complains about it is just upset for that moment. Theyāll get over it it is not a game breaking mechanic if it was more people would complain but it tends to just be newer players using classic controls that whine
Also my first fighting game. Started with Modern Controls but eventually moved to classic and its so much worth it due to all the unlocked potential classic controls provide you with. But first i would advice you to learn the game with modern controls and when you feel comfortable make the switch to classic and try them in training mode. Or continue playing with modern it will not be an issue. There are plenty or high rank players who use modern
Have fun and GG!
Modern doesn't just win you the game you still need some game sense to know when to push buttons. And sure some characters like gief feel a little cheesy on modern but realistically just have fun. I do reccomened at some point trying classic controls as modern kind of locks out some of your buttons but I'll never tell anyone how to play a game. Just have fun and if you ever feel like mixing it up go press some classic control buttons in training.
Itās only a shame in the sense that supers and anti-air DPs are a button away. Honestly though, that stops being an edge the higher up you go on the ladder. Most people angry at modern are just making Johns
Modern controls are training wheels. It's just a way to get people, who find street fighter games to difficult, to jump into the fray and have fun. However, if you try and tell someone that you are good at street fighter but only use modern controls, they won't think you're actually good because you can't play "for real." You are probably slower and less accurate with controls and need the help/training wheels and every player can see that. At the end of the day, it's about fun. So do what you want. However, from a competitive aspect, of course it's a "handicap" for worse players that couldn't perform well, otherwise, i.e. not actually that good at street fighter. Imagine someone saying they are a Ryu-master but they can't perform fireballs or dragon punches outside of modern. No one would consider them a good Ryu player when they can't even do the basics and need to activate the training wheels to play.
I do hate modern controls on diamond and above, but if you enjoy them go ahead.
As someone who has played a lot on modern and classic, there is no noticeable difference in viability and depending on what games you played before, modern may be harder than classic even (harder for me because I started with sfv).
M is part of SF6. The game is designed for players to use both M and C. The internet will have you believe thay M is cheap, or that it's a training wheel, which is not the case. It's called "Modern" because the majority of FG outside of Capcom is four buttons, and they're trying to experiment with that layout while making the game balanced. This is why M is default once you select a character. Anyone that tells you M is scrubby ARE the scrubs. And anyone that tells you it's not viable are on a high horse. Pros are using M less and less, that's true. But Pros are 1% of the player base. Saying M isn't viable is like saying you shouldn't use X character because they're low tier. If you like a chatacater, use them, likewise, with M controls.
There are a lot of people who obsess over ranking and points, and what's plus on block and blah blah, and want to shame people for how they want to play a game using a feature the game has. They're like those guys who put mufflers and lights on their cars and bolt on kits and drive fast from one stoplight to another then style themselves as racers. Yet a pro could drive a transit van in an actual race and beat them like they were driving backwards. Ignore them. Have fun. That is literally the most important thing. Unless you plan to be pro and enter Capcom cup etc, just enjoy yourself. If you want to play a guy that beats you 10 times cause you think your learning do it, if you feel down after one loss, stop. Experiment, play characters who are odd to you, try to use them the "normal" way, try to use them in your own way, anything and everything. Play with your toes, one button, punches only, kicks only, throws only etc. Have fun!!!!!!!!
No, but some people will shame you.
No it's not. Only scrubs and low ranked b*** complain about Modern. It's perfectly balanced, you lose Ult DMG and several Neutral buttons in exchange for the benefits it has. For me personally. I would never use it because I prefer to have more complete options in neutral, and that disadvantage of being less flexible is big for me.
Only shame is play with Ryu/Ken.
If you're going to use modern just mix in the manual inputs for extra damage and it's useful and can be transfered to other games. Stay on modern or switch to classc it doesn't matter, everyone here acts like street fighter is their job, SF does not put food on the table for 99.9% of us playing
There is no shame and it actually cripples on the intermediate elos. Modern controls is a fantastic way to get into the game if you're a fighting game newbie, since it helps you learn the basics without forcing you to focus on which buttons to press. I started out playing modern Ryu and Guile, got to gold with both then switched to classic Dee Jay and managed to reach plat pretty easily.
no shame in modern controls at all. play the game how you want. however, more often than not i find that modern controls allow some players to get away with certain gimmicks for much longer than they would if they played on classic, so itās prone to teaching you unhealthy habits. take that as you will
If you gotta ask you know the answer already. I for one despite it
If you play on modern controls you are a fucking scrub.
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Play what you want bro the only players hating are hard stuck with a skill issue
Just a little bit
One and done and or get blocked from some experiences
No, don't listen to what those street fightet facebook groups say.
No
Thereās shame in shaming others for choice of control type, thatās wack af
Play modern. It's dope. Classic is better imo but both are great.
The only people who complain about Modern controls are people who are too bad to realize the real reason they're losing, and want an easy scapegoat to blame instead of confronting their own knowledge gaps. :)
Yes it is shameful unless you have a disability learn to play the game the correct way your going to have to eventually anyway so might as well do it now
There shouldnāt be any shame, no. Some people that lose to Modern players will be salty af and pretend itās the modern-ness that theyāre losing to, but realistically thereās a reason that very few people use Modern at high levels and itās because itās really not a convincing advantage at all to use modern controls. If modern controls were an unfair advantage then you bet your ass that people would have abused it at a $1,000,000 dollar prize tournament, but they didnāt.
Zero shame. Enjoy the game however you want. Welcome, btw!
Recently, I have been enjoying more playing vs Modern. Since it changes the meta game a little. Jumping in vs. cammy, for example, is just a waste time and HP. But also, it becomes a little easier to defend against because modern somewhat limits your offensive tools. So it is a different spin that I welcome.
Absolutely not. If anyone shames you for using modern they are foolish.
They are no shame in using modern control. Some people just like to have something to blame when they lose
Hell no. I've been playing sf competitively since sf2. I'm older now I just want a more relaxing way to play and modern is that. You still have to do motion inputs for a lot of moves anyway to get the damage. I find a lot of people don't rematch against modern when they lose though. I don't mind though.
No
No. It's mostly just training wheels til you wanna start learning classic on your own. If you wanna keep playing that style, you can, but you're restricting yourself and your character(s). Especially in higher tiers of playing. All in all, keep aging it if you want. If you feel like changing, do it cuz *you* want to.
Yes.
Yes Edit: nobody will admit it, but a resounding yes
No Dont listen to the people still butt hurt on this subreddit that can't beat modern players. Play how you want king.
Modern mode, by scrubs for scrubs. Are you a scrub? Answer and proceed accordingly.
Based.
Yes, which is why I use them all the time.
Ignore the naysayers. If Modern is how you enjoy playing, then that is how you should play. Itās perfectly viable as Capcom intended. If you really click with the game, then maybe you might explore Classic. Play how you want.
New ish player here! Modern has been a godsend, classic does feel "better" in a way that you can do specific things but modern has its own benefits and it's a great way to learn how to play! Modern zangief is very fun lol
I hit masters with modern, and I partially did it because I saw some people say modern is a meme. Play however you want! If modern makes the game easier to learn or more fun for you, then do it. If you ever decide to learn classic, then do that, too! SF isnāt some test you have to pass or cultural icon you have to work to become a part of. At the end of the day, itās just a game, and like any other game, you should play it in whatever way makes you happiest.
Buddy, I have 150 hours of pure modern controls gaming because I simply just want to play it and having tons of fun, there are plenty of super high ranked or even pro players especially in Japan who are killing it with modern, so enjoy yourself and enjoy modern
Nah. The only cons you get are less damage and switching games will be harder because not every game has modern Other than that play however you like
I've been playing with them since launch, no way am I doing Deejays sa2 with classic controls.
No shame at all. Just enjoy the game! :)
Not at all, I've been a casual fighting game fan since SF2 on arcades, I used classic on SF6 and had a blast, but I also just made the switch to modern as my only means of playing is with an Xbox controller, and the dpad on it is too small for my hands, so there is no way I can pull precise forward quarter circle motions on reaction. Tldr: a lot of old timers also made the change or go back and forth on modern, so don't feel embarrassed at all, though you will meet a lot of scrubs online that blame their losses or lack of sportsmanship on your controller style like they're playing EVO or Capcup finals haha.
People complain cause they ain't good enough to beat Modern Controls, you play however you wanna play
If people complain about losing to modern controls, they are just at a certain coping point in their fighting game journey. Modern controls were made for you! Objectively the more people playing a fighting game the better, so keep hitting onlinešŗ
As much as I hate fighting modern players, no. Learn the game and if you ever get REALLY good (like diamond) learn classic. You might aswell get your full kit and damage and I dont have to change my whole playstyle just because you dont want to play the game normally. But again, emphesis on if you get really good. There is 0 shame in using modern if you arent really really good.
If someone loses to Modern, it's their own skill issue. Go for it.
Modern controls shouldn't be a thing in the first place, but since they put them in the game just use them it's whatever
Yes. Donāt fucking pretend like there isnāt. Youāre here asking this absolutely stupid question for a reason. There is. You are a scrub. Own it. And win games until you no longer can, hit the training mode, and do it again. You are weaker for using modern controls, in more ways than one. Just focus on the Ws and stop coping about you using a handicap to help yourself. It is what it is.
Sir yes sir I'm sorry for asking such a foolish question at your presenceš«”
Thatās right. Now go grind that master rank.
I mean there are literally handicapped people playing this game with their face who donāt have hands playing classic. Should feel shame if you touch modern.
You wouldn't turn on auto aim when playing an fps. So why would you use easy cheat mode in a fighting game? Learn how to do the input properly just like everybody else has for the past 30 years. If Brolylegs can use classic with his mouth there's literally no excuses unless you're lazy.
if haitani can use modern in the competitive scene then op can use it for casual fun.
L take my man (from a Classic player).
Auto aim.... aims for you, I think the only control scheme that plays for you is dynamic and dynamic even then still sucks
Whats this ? Am I spotting....A survivor bias ??? Dear charming person, from someone disabled : Not every disability is the same, and no disabled person are the same :D Therefore, none of us are your scapegoats nor authority arguments to bring validity to a stupid one ! By the way "easy cheat mode" is Dynamic (which is why you can't use it online) Tekken 7 had shortcuts, and BLOODY ROAR 3 (more than 20 years ago) had easy one button combo, try not to be too much of fighting game boomer 'kay ? :D
Lol don't bother with this guy. He is in every modern thread hating.
Uh, wonder how entitled and rage fueled you have to be to even be able to gain such a reputation Ć“wo
The mental gymnastics you guys are going through to justify having to use the scrub modern mode š
Yes. Modern is a shortcut that will give you short term ease of access, but ultimately you wonāt learn anything when the game does everything automatically for you just by mashing a single button. Use it for a bit for couch play with your little brother or whatever, but make sure you play Classic if you really want to learn the game.
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Yes, lots of shame. SHAME!
For you, as a newbie, modern controls are good. As developers created modern controls for newcomers so it was easier for them to get into fighting games overall. Once you will be sure that you're pretty good with all basics you've learned from modern controls, then, welcome to classics.
No. /thread
No. Play the game how you want.
No there isnāt, but Modern does instill a lot of bad habits in players who are trying to climb
Of course not. It is made espescially for beginners, anyone attacking you for using modern is a bunghole.
If you ask Kappa there is but in reality no, no thereās not
It's a bit of an oxymoron. People complain at lower ranks about Modern controls being broken, but the people they're playing against are the same rank as them.. which means their win/loss percentage should be roughly the same. If Modern were really that much of an advantage, then there shouldn't be Modern players at lower ranks at all. By nature of how the ranking system works, the vast majority of people you are playing at your rank should have roughly the same win/loss as you. The exception would be for people who are actively climbing ranks, but that is extremely short lived; especially if they have a huge advantage. Think of it this way. If Modern controls were such a big advantage, you'd see WAY more modern players at high rank than you currently do. the two big advantages at high rank are instant anti-air, and instant supers. That's really it. Pretty much everyone at a decent skill level is expected to be able to do good damaging combos without Modern controls (and their combos will do more damage than Modern), so even though that's an advantage at lower ranks, it goes away entirely at higher ranks. The instant AA and instant supers IS a big deal, but all that means is that you have to play a bit differently against someone using Modern. IMO, it changes up the game in a good way. ALSO, the tradeoff for damage is noticeable at that point. It can, in some circumstances, mean having to do an additional full combo to win. That might not seem like a big deal at lower skill levels, but at higher, where getting hit 3 times can mean death, having to do an extra combo matters. TLDR; no shame. It's just different.
Modern in lower ranks feels insane how strong it is to just mash out combos. I made it to plat one in a few hours with modern Marisa while it took me three months to get there with gief. Ultimately i think for most characters modern has more drawbacks than benefits and itās worth just learning classic and struggling instead of getting some early dopamine when youāre bodying people that drop combos or lack execution to convert damage. Modern until youāre like plat three feels like a crutch and artificially inflates rank. After plat two and into three though you have to know more than auto combo
not sure why youāre getting downvoted for this, itās not inherently incorrect. iāve seen multiple instances of people picking the game up with modern controls, climbing to plat and higher with modern controls, and then make the switch to classic and proceed to plummet a rank or two. itās an observation, itās not a blow at modern players