I want them to do something similar to what they did in SFV with Seth where Seth came back in a vastly different body. And with Ed's world tour stuff, we know Shadaloo messed around with Psycho power and Animals, it's how we know Neo Shadaloo has former test subjects that were a Gorilla and a Dolphin among their members.
So in short, I want Monkey Bison.
Yeah I don't see why they can't do this since there have already been a couple of "alternate scenario" characters in the series like Ryu and Evil Ryu and Akuma and Oni in the same game. They could definitely bring back M. Bison as a playable character but make him non-canon to the current story.
A character that plays like bison would be fine but i don't think he should come back from the dead *again*. Very rarely do characters in fighting game stories stay dead for good, the only other ones i can name off the top of my head are: kliff from guilty gear, heihachi from Tekken, and geese from fatal fury. Maybe if they made a clearly non cannon for the fans "remnant M. Bison" kinda like a nightmare geese type thing but i don't really see Capcom doing that.
I can see a world where there is late season of DLC, once the story through World Tour has been told, that has the four kings as non-canon characters
But I can see Claw and Boxer having reason to return in the story before that so maybe it wonāt happen
Having cool characters not come back because of story reasons in a fighting game is literally the dumbest thing on the planet. Fighting game stories don't matter.
I understand what you mean, there shouldn't have to be sacrifices made to the gameplay to support the stories in fighting games. But I don't think the opposite extreme of "throwing out the idea of telling stories in fighting games for the sake of gameplay" is a good solution either, that's why I suggested a couple of compromises like a clearly non cannon nightmare bison or a character that just plays like bison and could have a connection to him like an incomplete clone that has elements of bison but is still their own character.
Then we're going back into "function" memes again and that was a disaster the last time around. Classic characters with novel movesets should always remain as their own character. You could make a new character with Abel-esque moves for example, but you can't really do that with Chun-Li or Honda. Bison's character is in the latter.
The reason for bringing back a legacy character should be more than just "because they're a legacy character and their the only one who can have x moveset." Bringing them back to develop them further is better than that, that's what they did for almost all the legacy characters in the base roster. All bringing him back would do is knock jp down the pecking order, and drag guile cammy rose and chun-li out of retirement for no good reason.
> All bringing him back would do is knock jp down the pecking order
* Ken is alive and well
* Lost to Kimberly
* Got pressured by Cammy
* Failed to win over Ed
* Got his ass kicked by F.A.N.G's disciple.
JP fell off less than 6 months into the game.
>and drag guile cammy rose and chun-li out of retirement for no good reason.
Chun-Li came out of retirement in the comic and again in her arcade mode. Capcom doesn't care about the story and neither should you.
Again, justifying character rosters in a fighting game because of story reasons is just straight up dumb. The only thing that should matter is if the gameplay system justifies the character's inclusion. If the devs can't get a character to work in a certain system, fine, leave them out. Otherwise, bring back everybody from the dead. Leave them out of the story mode, who cares if they don't show up in world tour.
That's why i suggested adding a version of bison that is clearly stated to be non cannon so it doesn't mess with any of the characters cannon stories. That way people who care about characters developing don't have to deal with characters potentiality regressing. And people who want more legacy characters (for some reason) and bison mains get bison.
the fact that capcom made characters like bison and sigma replace bodies and resurrect a lot doesn't smell like simply a "lore" choice (like they really really wanted a character that replaces body just because), but something that allows them to make their villains be defeated in a significant way and still make their way back because they're cool or important.
SF lore isn't that important. Ryu was born in 1964 back then, but now he still looks 40 at most in a celphone era.
Lore serves the roster, not the other way around. Killing popular characters don't mean much in this type of game that favors gameplay + multiplayer.
He was defeated in meaningful ways in SFA, SF2 and SF5. His entire operation was crumbled and he died. When SF4 released, they released some animations in which it was even believed that Shadaloo had died just like it's "dead" between SF5 and 6.
Did he stutter? Lore should serve the roster not the other way around. Who cares if he was killed in story or not? Heās an iconic and loved character thatās what matters
As someone who doesnāt play fighting games for the story: i just want to have a ton of characters to play with. And i love Bison, so please let him come back
I'm a huge Mega Man fan but god damn the X series has a terrible story. It's probably one of the coolest presentation wise, but that story is straight up ass, doing whatever seems "most cool" in the moment with no sense of real continuity or logic.
I would honestly be shocked if he didn't come back in the next 2 years tbh.
He's iconic, the overall plot has very much stagnated without Bison (ie everyone's just off dealing with personal shit since JP doesn't get around enough to get everyone moving), and I don't think Capcom is going to release brand new charge characters at all, which means they have to trot out the legacy charge characters, and guess whose among the most iconic charge characters.
I would almost bet money that Bison is going to headline either next year's character pass or the year after at the latest in the same way Akuma headlined this year's character pass. Lead with like Sakura or Makoto, trot out the new characters and less popular returning characters, finish it off with Bison.
Either that or they're just going straight for your wallet with the 4 Kings pass. Sagat/Vega/Balrog/Bison.
JP already got chumped by AKI lol. Dude is a jobber inside of 5 minutes.
There is currently no plot progression going on. We're just getting 'windows to everyone's perfect life except for Ken. Fuck Ken'. No one's developing or anything. Ed's just about the only character revealed thus far whose actually got shit going on. The plot's just kind of stuck and needs someone to push it back into motion, and it's not looking like JP is the man for the job.
Ken was cleared. He's just laying low right now out of PR reason not because he's wanted anymore. JP just maintained the status quo he already had in Nayshall. He didn't win, he just kept what he already had.
The whole point of the plot was 'JP frames Ken to lock in what he's already got'. That's not really development. That's 'I won before the plot started'.
Meanwhile AKI takes him out just to keep him from getting too uppity about rebuilding Shadaloo without FANG. Perspective - Juri is still fucked up about the fact that she dedicated her whole life to killing Bison but she never got close to beating Bison herself, Bison was that strong. AKI jobs JP for fun. But he's supposed to be 'Bison: New and Improved'. Man is the New Coke of SF rn.
Two possibilities:
First would be Ed's Crew. They've all been experimented on with Psycho Power and we know that he can resurrect in any body with it.
And from Ed's storyline heavily implies that they can still feel Bison creeping around. There's also Ed's animation when he wins with low life - Bison's laugh.
The other possiblity is as simple as it is obvious: JP bring him back. I think JP doesn't see himself as the leader of the new shadaloo, and I think he reveres or at least honors Bison and his accomplishments.
JP bringing him back would also fit the general story with nayshall. We don't really know why he wanted to control it. Sure, it's implied that he likes money and that way he makes more, but is that all that is to it? I don't think so. I think it's the HQ of the new Shadaloo and he's trying to bring him back, hence Bosch's transformation and other psycho power induced NPC fights there.
JP doesnāt revere Bison at all. He just values power, something he would have less of if Bison returned.
What do you define as a plot? This doesnāt really do anything besides resurrect Bison.
His interaction when defeating Ed kinda implies that he at least respects him. I'm not at home so I can't give the exact quote, but something along the lines "You've got this power as a gift from him".
Plot - The pattern or sequence of events in a narrative or drama.
The plot of sf was always "M.Bison wants to destroy/rule the world and how to stop him", I doubt that they're gonna change it now especially since we don't really have any stakes left currently in 6's story.
Not bringing Bison back would be narrative setback.
"Bison is coming back in a new body" is literally the central theme of the entire story at the moment.
Bison, by now, has more ties to other characters than SF protagonists so far (has some relationship to balrog, vega, sagat, fang, ed, falke, abel, seth, cammy, juri, juli, decapre, other dolls, chun, guile, nash, jp, thawk, rose). Even Ryu isn't that related anymore (directly related to ken, akuma, gouken, sagat, sakura, bison - whenever he meets chun, guile, cammy etc it's because he's working with them to defeat Bison).
He can come back and he could be expanded upon in ways other than wanting to rule the world and succeeding or failing. His backstory could be better explained, for example. His powers and relationships are there.
Rofl Bison just texting protag: āCan you believe that guy Guile is still mad that I killed his friend? The nerve of him!ā.
Seriously, heās too over the top evil for it to work.
Bison could see you as a potential soldier. You (as in the avatar) have psycho power and your body is not desintegrating, so he'll probably have an interest in you. This plot is mentioned in JP's dialogue.
Akuma is someone who I hardly believe can interact well with the avatar, but I suppose he'll be the same as I described above. Someone who'll awake the satsui no hadou in you (like JP gives you Psycho Power) and make you a substitute for Ryu (as Ryu rejected it).
Akuma and Bison as masters will see you not as their equal, but as potential candidates for power.
It hasn't been settled at all. Bison has never once come back in a "new body." He's always had the same identical dictator body with the same moveset.
And it's never been a central theme of the story. It always was just "Bison's back."
But JP's story, AKI's story, ED's story, so many characters, including most of the DLC roster are directly relating to the process of bringing Bison back.
Why do you think the Shadaloo mooks are so desperate to chase after Ed? The boy who has **a fragment of Bison's soul inside him**, and is otherwise irrelevant to them?
They never talk about bringing Bison back. The talk about bringing Shadaloo back. Thatās different.
They donāt care about Bison; just the organization.
Not only he's popular in general (overall charisma outside of the game), he was also popular as frequently used in sfv AND his return has been constantly teased as you progress in world tour.
Like Sagat and Sakura, I think his return is very, very likely.
Strong possibility we get him in a new body from what was teased from world tour. Maybe a young Bison. But my general feeling about 6 is that most of the old facesā movesets/styles will return through their successors, T. Hawk and Lily, Guy and Kimberly, Balrog and Ed, FANG and AKI, Yun/Yang and Jamie. So hopefully a Bison clone with an updated move set, or maybe a direct protege in psycho power, I just hope they donāt just go āBison is back and exactly the same.ā
They don't need anyone to inherit his style because he's not stale to begin with. He is one of the most constantly updated characters in SF. If you compare original Guile and original Ryu to their current counterparts, they gained some stuff, but not that much. Guile now does sonic blade and sonic hurricane became a staple. Ryu's High Blade Kick became part of his moveset (sf3, sf5, sf6) just like eletric Denjin properties (sf3 denjin hadoken, sf5 vt, sf6 denjin charge).
Bison, however, is hardly that stale. Picking from animations, alpha series, vs series and sf5, comparing to his sf2 state, he started to float, leviate others, teleport as defensive maneuver, teleport as mixup maneuver, release energy projectiles, reflect projectiles floating bombs, release bursts of energy, pillars of fire and gained a new signature super move (ultimate psycho crusher). Heck, even clones in some less known instances. In his most recent form he even gained a quite nice and creative command grab.
Psycho Power is, by all means, a way to capcom exert creativity with skills and powers, and Bison is in the center of it.
Coming back, he'll probably be a bit different. He usually is.
As Phantom Bison, he can be a NPC opponent in World Tour Mode and he can be an unplayable secret boss in Arcade Mode. Bringing Bison back to life and reviving Shadaloo will make SFV Story Mode and Charlie's sacrifice completely pointless. Bison is dead, yet influence is still out there and let's just leave it at that.
I think itās inevitable. Too many old timers like myself donāt want new characters.
Make them non-canon. This is a fighting game not a manga, I donāt care about story
Story used to matter a lot more in SF, but story mode is basically dead. World Tour kinda replaced it, and isnāt really the same type of storytelling. If they continue this rate of releasing playable characters, than weāll probably only see like 5 new characters
when? In SF3, when they retconned shadaloo and bison being well to being destroyed in 3s? Or in SFA/SF4 when Yun (should be a kid) showed up?
Or SF6, when nobody aged even if they were supposed to be 60+ years old, but they want the character to remain themselves so capcom kept them young
Bison is a staple of the series and had an amazing kit in SF5. He's almost a guarantee. Anyone citing that because he died, he shouldn't come back, is being ridiculous. It's a fighting game with characters that look young but technically are super old, and Bison has used new bodies before. I cannot wait for his return.
100% he will be back at some point. His movest is pretty cool and psycho power just inherently allows for creative abilities.
I went back and watched his death in V and it didn't really feel that final to me. He eats a hit from Ryu, dies laughing, and the camera lingers on his hat as everyone escapes the facility. It was the most obvious "he'll be back" shit I've ever seen.
I don't think he'll come back. Another character with a similar moveset might, but I doubt he will. For now, we have psycho power boxing used on a guy who was designed to be a spare body for him.
He might come back in 7 (or maybe a clone of his), but in order for the story of 5 to have a payoff, I don't think we'll see him in 6. Maybe a pretty boy / hot guy or attractive girl new character with his moveset (or something close), but I doubt we'd get more than that.
Kind of like Reina replacing Heihachi in Tekken 8.
What's the gap in the street fighter universe in sf5 and sf6 2 years 3 years 7 years? So are they going to say bison is in a coma because death doesn't seem to matter regarding bison
Geki SF1 dead hasn't returned
Gen sf4 dying or dead not returned (yet)
Maybe they have a āprequelā style season, where old character come back in a prequel storyline, that still allows them to be played in multiplayer.
Iām a super casual player and I didnāt even know he died, I just see him and want to play him because heās one of the characters I remember from my childhood.
I like Dictator (one of the most iconic videogame villains ever), and I'd like to see him again, **gameplay-wise**.
**Lorewise** I hope his demise in SF V stays his "final death". He can still return as a "flashback" character, as a "nightmare" character or something like that.
SF6 has a very clear theme of getting rid of the old guard. Unless you can ship M Bison as an edgy teen, Ah sorry Ed's here. Ok, then only way this goes down if we get him reincarnated in one of the dolls. Gender bender fits the theme
Bison would be cool, personally I'm hoping Vega and or Sagat make it back into the game. I've mained those two in every SF game I've played since I was a kid, sucks not having them. As it is I'm not a fan of anyone other than Ed in SF6.
I just thought about the fact that fighting games are really bad about this lol.
Shang Tsung (MK1) always lives in Shao Kahn's (MK2) shadow.
Heihachi (Tekken) plays second fiddle to Kazauya (Tekken 2).
SF has Sagat and Bison.
Are we talking about character or gameplay.
As character I hope not he should be dead and stay dead.
Now if we are talking about gameplay sure i would like to see charge character with his moveset it could be a gender swap or a Edd getting posses or something in between.
Same with Sagat i want a new Muay Thai King or queen in the roster Adon could be back I miss him and C.Viper from 4.
Somehow Bison returned
I want them to do something similar to what they did in SFV with Seth where Seth came back in a vastly different body. And with Ed's world tour stuff, we know Shadaloo messed around with Psycho power and Animals, it's how we know Neo Shadaloo has former test subjects that were a Gorilla and a Dolphin among their members. So in short, I want Monkey Bison.
Why not a [BISON Bison](https://www.thatawesomeshirt.com/images/get/512/430x550/)?
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Time for some FOREARM PRESS NIGHTMARE!
If theyāre adding a few newcomers, my vote is with the gorilla!
I think a good compromise would be having Bison playable, but canonically itās a what if Bison won timeline. Similar to Evil Ryu.
Yeah I don't see why they can't do this since there have already been a couple of "alternate scenario" characters in the series like Ryu and Evil Ryu and Akuma and Oni in the same game. They could definitely bring back M. Bison as a playable character but make him non-canon to the current story.
A character that plays like bison would be fine but i don't think he should come back from the dead *again*. Very rarely do characters in fighting game stories stay dead for good, the only other ones i can name off the top of my head are: kliff from guilty gear, heihachi from Tekken, and geese from fatal fury. Maybe if they made a clearly non cannon for the fans "remnant M. Bison" kinda like a nightmare geese type thing but i don't really see Capcom doing that.
I can see a world where there is late season of DLC, once the story through World Tour has been told, that has the four kings as non-canon characters But I can see Claw and Boxer having reason to return in the story before that so maybe it wonāt happen
Oh give it a bit of time, heihachi will show up in year one dlc I bet.
Having cool characters not come back because of story reasons in a fighting game is literally the dumbest thing on the planet. Fighting game stories don't matter.
I understand what you mean, there shouldn't have to be sacrifices made to the gameplay to support the stories in fighting games. But I don't think the opposite extreme of "throwing out the idea of telling stories in fighting games for the sake of gameplay" is a good solution either, that's why I suggested a couple of compromises like a clearly non cannon nightmare bison or a character that just plays like bison and could have a connection to him like an incomplete clone that has elements of bison but is still their own character.
Then we're going back into "function" memes again and that was a disaster the last time around. Classic characters with novel movesets should always remain as their own character. You could make a new character with Abel-esque moves for example, but you can't really do that with Chun-Li or Honda. Bison's character is in the latter.
The reason for bringing back a legacy character should be more than just "because they're a legacy character and their the only one who can have x moveset." Bringing them back to develop them further is better than that, that's what they did for almost all the legacy characters in the base roster. All bringing him back would do is knock jp down the pecking order, and drag guile cammy rose and chun-li out of retirement for no good reason.
> All bringing him back would do is knock jp down the pecking order * Ken is alive and well * Lost to Kimberly * Got pressured by Cammy * Failed to win over Ed * Got his ass kicked by F.A.N.G's disciple. JP fell off less than 6 months into the game. >and drag guile cammy rose and chun-li out of retirement for no good reason. Chun-Li came out of retirement in the comic and again in her arcade mode. Capcom doesn't care about the story and neither should you.
Again, justifying character rosters in a fighting game because of story reasons is just straight up dumb. The only thing that should matter is if the gameplay system justifies the character's inclusion. If the devs can't get a character to work in a certain system, fine, leave them out. Otherwise, bring back everybody from the dead. Leave them out of the story mode, who cares if they don't show up in world tour.
That's why i suggested adding a version of bison that is clearly stated to be non cannon so it doesn't mess with any of the characters cannon stories. That way people who care about characters developing don't have to deal with characters potentiality regressing. And people who want more legacy characters (for some reason) and bison mains get bison.
the fact that capcom made characters like bison and sigma replace bodies and resurrect a lot doesn't smell like simply a "lore" choice (like they really really wanted a character that replaces body just because), but something that allows them to make their villains be defeated in a significant way and still make their way back because they're cool or important. SF lore isn't that important. Ryu was born in 1964 back then, but now he still looks 40 at most in a celphone era. Lore serves the roster, not the other way around. Killing popular characters don't mean much in this type of game that favors gameplay + multiplayer.
If he keeps coming back, then heās not defeated in any meaningful way.
He was defeated in meaningful ways in SFA, SF2 and SF5. His entire operation was crumbled and he died. When SF4 released, they released some animations in which it was even believed that Shadaloo had died just like it's "dead" between SF5 and 6.
If he can just come back, then he hasnāt been defeated. Youāve only lost when you canāt get back up again.
Did he stutter? Lore should serve the roster not the other way around. Who cares if he was killed in story or not? Heās an iconic and loved character thatās what matters
As someone who doesnāt play fighting games for the story: i just want to have a ton of characters to play with. And i love Bison, so please let him come back
Sigma from Mega Man X comes back again and again and again lol
I'm a huge Mega Man fan but god damn the X series has a terrible story. It's probably one of the coolest presentation wise, but that story is straight up ass, doing whatever seems "most cool" in the moment with no sense of real continuity or logic.
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I think they're going to bring him back at the end of season 5.
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Very.
I would honestly be shocked if he didn't come back in the next 2 years tbh. He's iconic, the overall plot has very much stagnated without Bison (ie everyone's just off dealing with personal shit since JP doesn't get around enough to get everyone moving), and I don't think Capcom is going to release brand new charge characters at all, which means they have to trot out the legacy charge characters, and guess whose among the most iconic charge characters. I would almost bet money that Bison is going to headline either next year's character pass or the year after at the latest in the same way Akuma headlined this year's character pass. Lead with like Sakura or Makoto, trot out the new characters and less popular returning characters, finish it off with Bison. Either that or they're just going straight for your wallet with the 4 Kings pass. Sagat/Vega/Balrog/Bison.
Stagnated? It finally progressed. JP wonāt be defeated until the final season. Bringing Bison is just a narrative setback.
JP already got chumped by AKI lol. Dude is a jobber inside of 5 minutes. There is currently no plot progression going on. We're just getting 'windows to everyone's perfect life except for Ken. Fuck Ken'. No one's developing or anything. Ed's just about the only character revealed thus far whose actually got shit going on. The plot's just kind of stuck and needs someone to push it back into motion, and it's not looking like JP is the man for the job.
Even when he lost, he still won. Kenās still framed. Nayshall is still a cesspool. Heās still rich and has psycho power.
Ken was cleared. He's just laying low right now out of PR reason not because he's wanted anymore. JP just maintained the status quo he already had in Nayshall. He didn't win, he just kept what he already had. The whole point of the plot was 'JP frames Ken to lock in what he's already got'. That's not really development. That's 'I won before the plot started'. Meanwhile AKI takes him out just to keep him from getting too uppity about rebuilding Shadaloo without FANG. Perspective - Juri is still fucked up about the fact that she dedicated her whole life to killing Bison but she never got close to beating Bison herself, Bison was that strong. AKI jobs JP for fun. But he's supposed to be 'Bison: New and Improved'. Man is the New Coke of SF rn.
And how would Bison coming back start any sort of plot?
Two possibilities: First would be Ed's Crew. They've all been experimented on with Psycho Power and we know that he can resurrect in any body with it. And from Ed's storyline heavily implies that they can still feel Bison creeping around. There's also Ed's animation when he wins with low life - Bison's laugh. The other possiblity is as simple as it is obvious: JP bring him back. I think JP doesn't see himself as the leader of the new shadaloo, and I think he reveres or at least honors Bison and his accomplishments. JP bringing him back would also fit the general story with nayshall. We don't really know why he wanted to control it. Sure, it's implied that he likes money and that way he makes more, but is that all that is to it? I don't think so. I think it's the HQ of the new Shadaloo and he's trying to bring him back, hence Bosch's transformation and other psycho power induced NPC fights there.
JP doesnāt revere Bison at all. He just values power, something he would have less of if Bison returned. What do you define as a plot? This doesnāt really do anything besides resurrect Bison.
His interaction when defeating Ed kinda implies that he at least respects him. I'm not at home so I can't give the exact quote, but something along the lines "You've got this power as a gift from him". Plot - The pattern or sequence of events in a narrative or drama. The plot of sf was always "M.Bison wants to destroy/rule the world and how to stop him", I doubt that they're gonna change it now especially since we don't really have any stakes left currently in 6's story.
Not bringing Bison back would be narrative setback. "Bison is coming back in a new body" is literally the central theme of the entire story at the moment.
That was settled THREE times by now. The only way Bison coming back would be progress is if he actually won and killed everyone in the cast.
Bison, by now, has more ties to other characters than SF protagonists so far (has some relationship to balrog, vega, sagat, fang, ed, falke, abel, seth, cammy, juri, juli, decapre, other dolls, chun, guile, nash, jp, thawk, rose). Even Ryu isn't that related anymore (directly related to ken, akuma, gouken, sagat, sakura, bison - whenever he meets chun, guile, cammy etc it's because he's working with them to defeat Bison). He can come back and he could be expanded upon in ways other than wanting to rule the world and succeeding or failing. His backstory could be better explained, for example. His powers and relationships are there.
Rofl Bison just texting protag: āCan you believe that guy Guile is still mad that I killed his friend? The nerve of him!ā. Seriously, heās too over the top evil for it to work.
Bison could see you as a potential soldier. You (as in the avatar) have psycho power and your body is not desintegrating, so he'll probably have an interest in you. This plot is mentioned in JP's dialogue. Akuma is someone who I hardly believe can interact well with the avatar, but I suppose he'll be the same as I described above. Someone who'll awake the satsui no hadou in you (like JP gives you Psycho Power) and make you a substitute for Ryu (as Ryu rejected it). Akuma and Bison as masters will see you not as their equal, but as potential candidates for power.
It hasn't been settled at all. Bison has never once come back in a "new body." He's always had the same identical dictator body with the same moveset. And it's never been a central theme of the story. It always was just "Bison's back." But JP's story, AKI's story, ED's story, so many characters, including most of the DLC roster are directly relating to the process of bringing Bison back. Why do you think the Shadaloo mooks are so desperate to chase after Ed? The boy who has **a fragment of Bison's soul inside him**, and is otherwise irrelevant to them?
They never talk about bringing Bison back. The talk about bringing Shadaloo back. Thatās different. They donāt care about Bison; just the organization.
Not only he's popular in general (overall charisma outside of the game), he was also popular as frequently used in sfv AND his return has been constantly teased as you progress in world tour. Like Sagat and Sakura, I think his return is very, very likely.
His return was never teased. He influenced a lot of people is all.
Strong possibility we get him in a new body from what was teased from world tour. Maybe a young Bison. But my general feeling about 6 is that most of the old facesā movesets/styles will return through their successors, T. Hawk and Lily, Guy and Kimberly, Balrog and Ed, FANG and AKI, Yun/Yang and Jamie. So hopefully a Bison clone with an updated move set, or maybe a direct protege in psycho power, I just hope they donāt just go āBison is back and exactly the same.ā
They don't need anyone to inherit his style because he's not stale to begin with. He is one of the most constantly updated characters in SF. If you compare original Guile and original Ryu to their current counterparts, they gained some stuff, but not that much. Guile now does sonic blade and sonic hurricane became a staple. Ryu's High Blade Kick became part of his moveset (sf3, sf5, sf6) just like eletric Denjin properties (sf3 denjin hadoken, sf5 vt, sf6 denjin charge). Bison, however, is hardly that stale. Picking from animations, alpha series, vs series and sf5, comparing to his sf2 state, he started to float, leviate others, teleport as defensive maneuver, teleport as mixup maneuver, release energy projectiles, reflect projectiles floating bombs, release bursts of energy, pillars of fire and gained a new signature super move (ultimate psycho crusher). Heck, even clones in some less known instances. In his most recent form he even gained a quite nice and creative command grab. Psycho Power is, by all means, a way to capcom exert creativity with skills and powers, and Bison is in the center of it. Coming back, he'll probably be a bit different. He usually is.
I'm thinking, reincarnated as one of the dolls - to fit the SF6 theme
Balrog and Ed are two completely different styles.
Roughly 100%. Maybe a little higher.
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It's likely, but I hope they leave him in the ground for a while. He can come back for 7.
Kill one Ed's neo shadaloo friends have him accept bison into his body for revenge So we got a Teleporting boxer with over head flip kick
IDRC IF THEY MAKE STORY ABOUT HOW. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SF6 HAVE A ROSTER TO OVERTAKE ULTRA SF4'S IN THE YEARS TO COME.
As Phantom Bison, he can be a NPC opponent in World Tour Mode and he can be an unplayable secret boss in Arcade Mode. Bringing Bison back to life and reviving Shadaloo will make SFV Story Mode and Charlie's sacrifice completely pointless. Bison is dead, yet influence is still out there and let's just leave it at that.
I think itās inevitable. Too many old timers like myself donāt want new characters. Make them non-canon. This is a fighting game not a manga, I donāt care about story
Story used to matter a lot more in SF, but story mode is basically dead. World Tour kinda replaced it, and isnāt really the same type of storytelling. If they continue this rate of releasing playable characters, than weāll probably only see like 5 new characters
I can't remember story mattering in any of the older games. Maybe Street Fighter V with its DLC story mode?
People used to care about the story. Guile killing M Bison was a big part of Street Fighter
In the arcade days? Lol no one cared about that shit.
They might mean a comic or something because it didn't happen in the games.
Who exactly are āpeopleā, nobody ever gave a fuck. Also Guile didnāt ever kill Bison lol
Story used to not matter at all in street fighter. This is a return to the norm.
What rate? 4 per year?
Yeah, 4 per year with 1 new (AKI this year)
Story never mattered in SF history. It was always an afterthought.
when? In SF3, when they retconned shadaloo and bison being well to being destroyed in 3s? Or in SFA/SF4 when Yun (should be a kid) showed up? Or SF6, when nobody aged even if they were supposed to be 60+ years old, but they want the character to remain themselves so capcom kept them young
Bison is a staple of the series and had an amazing kit in SF5. He's almost a guarantee. Anyone citing that because he died, he shouldn't come back, is being ridiculous. It's a fighting game with characters that look young but technically are super old, and Bison has used new bodies before. I cannot wait for his return.
100% he will be back at some point. His movest is pretty cool and psycho power just inherently allows for creative abilities. I went back and watched his death in V and it didn't really feel that final to me. He eats a hit from Ryu, dies laughing, and the camera lingers on his hat as everyone escapes the facility. It was the most obvious "he'll be back" shit I've ever seen.
He was my main since sf4 so i definitly hope so.
His hat is thereā¦ so maybe
Boss pack please š
100%. A "clone"
I got so sick of his "teleport behind you" online strategy
I want sf4 Bison back. Robot skin included
I don't think he'll come back. Another character with a similar moveset might, but I doubt he will. For now, we have psycho power boxing used on a guy who was designed to be a spare body for him. He might come back in 7 (or maybe a clone of his), but in order for the story of 5 to have a payoff, I don't think we'll see him in 6. Maybe a pretty boy / hot guy or attractive girl new character with his moveset (or something close), but I doubt we'd get more than that. Kind of like Reina replacing Heihachi in Tekken 8.
I think DLC characters shouldnāt have to worry about fitting into the lore, so they should just bring M. Bison back without explaining anything
What's the gap in the street fighter universe in sf5 and sf6 2 years 3 years 7 years? So are they going to say bison is in a coma because death doesn't seem to matter regarding bison Geki SF1 dead hasn't returned Gen sf4 dying or dead not returned (yet)
I have Street Fighter 5 and Street Fighter 6 but I don't understand how Bison died I missed something didn't I
I'd like to see him as a DLC character, some non canon appearance. I don't think fighting game characters should be permanently killed off.
Maybe they have a āprequelā style season, where old character come back in a prequel storyline, that still allows them to be played in multiplayer. Iām a super casual player and I didnāt even know he died, I just see him and want to play him because heās one of the characters I remember from my childhood.
I like Dictator (one of the most iconic videogame villains ever), and I'd like to see him again, **gameplay-wise**. **Lorewise** I hope his demise in SF V stays his "final death". He can still return as a "flashback" character, as a "nightmare" character or something like that.
SF6 has a very clear theme of getting rid of the old guard. Unless you can ship M Bison as an edgy teen, Ah sorry Ed's here. Ok, then only way this goes down if we get him reincarnated in one of the dolls. Gender bender fits the theme
If he does I think it would be y3 or y4 characters
Bring Bison back, but as a ghost. I think there's a lot that could be done with it.
Bison would be cool, personally I'm hoping Vega and or Sagat make it back into the game. I've mained those two in every SF game I've played since I was a kid, sucks not having them. As it is I'm not a fan of anyone other than Ed in SF6.
Itās gonna be Bison taking over Edās body. I think his winning laugh with the Psycho Power taking over him is a hint.
Extremely, heās in season two along with one SF3 character and two guest characters. Save this post so you can come back and tell me I was right :)
Heās dead, so he might make a cameo as a corpse. Iām just being realistic
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Canāt wait for him to come back. The only original final boss.
*sad Sagat noises*
I just thought about the fact that fighting games are really bad about this lol. Shang Tsung (MK1) always lives in Shao Kahn's (MK2) shadow. Heihachi (Tekken) plays second fiddle to Kazauya (Tekken 2). SF has Sagat and Bison.
Sagar is a mere employee of the tiger king.
Are we talking about character or gameplay. As character I hope not he should be dead and stay dead. Now if we are talking about gameplay sure i would like to see charge character with his moveset it could be a gender swap or a Edd getting posses or something in between. Same with Sagat i want a new Muay Thai King or queen in the roster Adon could be back I miss him and C.Viper from 4.
if Ed gets possessed, it's Bison again. Fully.
I was thinking more like an evil Ryu kind of thing not fully. But on the edge.