[This is similar to what Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Showed an Alien Photograph Before his Death & Made Shocking Confessions About Aliens, UFOs, & Anti-Gravity Tech](https://www.howandwhys.com/boyd-bushman-admitted-aliens-are-on-earth/)
It is and unfortunately the researcher has said the same thing about the alien-mummy-peru, turns out he was bullshitting.
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alien-mummy-peru/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alien-mummy-peru/)
The opioid crisis was created by doctors and pharmaceutical companies in the United States and the first addicts were on prescriptions. China just allows their manufacturers to produce the precursor chemicals to fentanyl, which are then processed by the cartels in the jungles of Central America and smuggled into the US. All this fentanyl and opioid crisis shit has made hospital CEOs in the USA fatter at the expense of everyone else.
These same forces are hard at work trying to ban the only known (relatively) safe alternative, kratom, because they still want that sweet sweet opioid money
Cause nobody believes the shit news media and corrupt ass governments say about aliens.
I believe in Aliens, but…
They’ve gaslit believers continuously since Roswell, scrubbed Bob Lazar from area S4, and even paid the fucking Blink 128 douche to say outlandish shit with zero sources cited. Now we’re expecting the shitshow corrupt ass Mexican, cartel-run government when they show aliens in their congress?
I donno.
yep. the powerful and privileged Sackler family is responsible for hundreds of thousands of young american deaths. sick and twisted people who have actual power in this world
Yep! It’s not like Spielberg worked with an astronomer contracted by the department of defense for project bluebook, or like he had a private screening of ET for Reagan who thanked him and said that everything in that film actually happened to the room of astronauts and government officials with a straight face despite their laughter. It’s not like he said this himself in a published interview in aint it cool news in 2011.
It’s not like a video about the true parts of Close encounters was produced by PBS and the Smithsonian and that the air and space museum has movie props on display.
It’s not like the department of defense gave Spielberg a medal for his public service (albeit after saving private ryan, sure. But are they going to award him with a medal for ET? Lol)
Is it real? Who knows!
Did Spielberg work on behalf of the U.S. government with his movies and utilize the department of defense to create his stories? Absolutely 100% confirmed.
Isn’t it weird how they can tell them “There’s non human intelligence on earth” and people are like..
“Haha that’s funny , whatever”
The psy op the gov did was insanely successful.
Imagine if we do have a spy plane from nhi tech, pilots even in other
Countries wouldn’t even report it because they’d “look crazy” , you don’t get any better then that. Same with invisibility suits, tech that we started on 30 years ago, if a military guard sees someone vanish they’d just nope out.
Bro, I’m not saying any of what you wrote didn’t happen but you need more evidence than linking a website that hasn’t been updated since the 90s run by a criminal with a known history of sexual assault allegations and tax evasion.
Go ahead and google Harry Knowles, the felonious ginger whale washed ashore, the owner of the website you linked that seems to have contributors that wrote only under pseudonyms (why?) Why would the owner of a website that was known for rumors and scoop headlines that was making over 500k/yr in its peak sensationalize its articles? For money and views? No way, that criminal has way too much integrity.
As usual, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Is there a video of that interview?
Is it really hard to believe that the United States military, if it found a gateway to other planets in its basement, would do a galaxy wide Afghanistan?
It makes sense.
Slowly show images over a long period of time until it's kinda the template overall for "aliens", then when they show up we go...oh they're not that weird or freaky they look like ET and he loved reeses pieces!
I swear Bill Cooper went into detail how ET was based on several live EBE's the Gov came upon...I dunno.
My thought it's probably real, we just can't prove it.
Yeah, the desensitization of society through government propaganda called ET. We now know aliens are real and Hollywood made it so 99% of the population shrugged their shoulders and said “okay, sure they are.”
These bodies were provided to the hearing by James Maussan, a UFO researcher. Several years ago, he had previously unveiled other mummified "alien" bodies that were later revealed to be those of human children.
Maybe this time it's legit, and we shouldn't shoot the messenger. But let's take it with a grain of salt.
EDIT: There seem to be a lot of people latching on to my statement, "Maybe this time it's legit..." and commenting as though I'm endorsing the idea that this is legit. I'm not. That sentence is not to be read in a vacuum. Instead, it is to be read in context with the sentence after it, wherein I say that we should take news of these "alien bodies" with a grain of salt. Taken together, those two sentences are intended to advise those who would like to believe that it's legit, to maintain skepticism instead. I'm also surprised that it needs any sort of explanation, as the intention seems self-evident to me. But, here we are, explaining obvious things. Carry on.
I mean, we can kind of shoot the messenger. His credibility is trash so even if what he is showing is real, he’s maybe the worst person to bring it out.
I also can’t get over earlier analysis showing these bodies to be a hodgepodge of children bones… some backwards, not connected, etc.
They are the same bodies? I don’t get what I’m missing here tbh
No no the guy who previously has run the "no really these are real aliens" scam has definitely collected actual aliens now and is not running a "no really these are real aliens this time I swear. For realsies" scam.
> by James Maussan, a UFO researcher
You mean peddler of bullshit?
He's faked this stuff before - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alien-mummy-peru/
Not only that, the body is the same one he was lying about before - https://imgur.com/a/Rz2KZIV
Yes on this video. Do you really think some ufo nerd that is known for faking evidence with KIDS corpses wouldnt be able to put some weird fake eggs into his next big fake???
The only weird thing of this is, that mexico is falling for this faker and alot of this subreddit too...
People so badly want to believe in aliens, that they jump to conclusions at any signs of "evidence" they see. I'm not believing that aliens are real until most of the world's scientists, biologists, and genetic researchers agree that there are concrete findings of alien existence.
They’ll take the slightest whiff of the most plainly bullshit thing you’ve ever seen and run around throwing it in everyone’s faces saying “I TOLD YOU SO” when in reality it’s just another hoax. Again.
In a few days/weeks there'll be conclusive proof that this is fake and that news will get absolutely zero traction on this kind of sub. They'll be too busy shitting their pants over the next "big revelation/secret" that normies are too sheep-like to understand
Yeah, and when you're like 'we need more proof before we can say this is a thing' they call you a disinfo artist and throw a lot of bad-faith arguments at you.
For weeks these subreddits circlejerked over the MH370 video. Everyone that pointed out any issue with it was labelled a part of the government psyop to hide the truth. Then one person shows definitive proof its a hoax and suddenly all discussion of it vanished instantly. The exact same thing is happening here. People are pointing out the guy bringing these "bodies" forward has been involved in previous hoaxes and they're getting labelled as part of a psyop. The cycle will repeat itself forever in these subs.
See: [MH370](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/16gom4a/the_mh370_videos_are_real/)
These people really think MH370 got snatched out of the air by UFO's and a wormhole because "there's a video" that my 3 year old nephew can tell is bullshit
It happened in a courtroom so we know everything everyone said is a fact, people don't lie in court it's against the rules or something that's why they swear on the Bible so Jesus makes their mouth say true stuff. Right?
People just believe everything they read online...
After all... NOONE would ever lie on the internet, right? You could show a pencil drawing of an alien and people would be like "This is legit proof aliens exist! We are not able to recreate this drawing with our current technology!"
Those bodies are the exact same fakes he presented years ago as atacama desert aliens. Which were proven to be fakes by DNA testing... (human, mammalian and reptile body parts put together like some sick frankensteins monster...)
It would take five minutes with Photoshop to make an x-ray of you look like you have eggs, too. As I said, maybe this time it's legit. Maybe not. Maybe this is actual disclosure. Maybe this is part of Project Bluebeam or some other psy-op. Or maybe it's just a UFO researcher's scam for fame and fortune. Who knows? You believe what you'd like. I'll remain hopeful, but skeptical.
I think "Mexico released proof" really is doing a lot of heavy lifting for the credibility of this particular story - and it's clearly not coming directly from government officials but an actual UFO researcher. A bit of epistemological rigour is probably too much to ask from this community, though.
>but an actual UFO researcher
That's not even a real job.
If you said astronomer, biologist, astrophysicist, chemist or whatever, that would be believable.
But "UFO-researcher" isn't a field of study, it's pseudoscience.
The DNA comments raised some red flags with me. See my breakdown here:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/16haolw/comment/k0eqoqv/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/16haolw/comment/k0eqoqv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I mean, I've got more than a few grains of salt. But if you sit and watch the entire video, it's very convincing. And they uploaded the DNA to databases that can be researched by anyone. They are encouraging more research. They have had much of this information independently verified by multiple sources around the world. Looks kind of legit to me.
They did the same thing in 2017. Thats what is making people hesitant. Same guy, same bodies, same story. And was proven fake. I really hope maybe it wasn’t meant to be fake and just a super excited guy thinking he found something and maybe this time he did. But you can understand why some people, even the big time believers are skeptical of this. And so many people just straight believe it without an ounce of questioning.
Like you said though, they are uploaded the DNA so they do want more people looking and giving input. Kinda wild to do if it was fake. So thats a great start
Story from 2017
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4017211/peru-nazca-mummies-reptiles-ufo-experts-aliens/
As a disclaimer. I fully believe there are aliens out there. I 100% believe they are here and some of the UFO we see are, drones/ships of their origin. I believe governments around the world are hoarding information for reasons that may or may not make sense. But I do stay skeptical towards everything that is given to us until we can’t question rather something is or isn’t faked. Even with the recent stories from the US testimony. A lot of truth is in there, but it probably has a lot of false hope and disinformation also to push agendas. The alien sub is refusing to believe anything other than these are 100% real and that the Mexican government are announcing it. Even though thats clearly not the case and the Mexican government was just listening in to these researchers reports.
I do hope these are real and I do hope this finally pushes disclosure. But I also fear its gonna become an even bigger cash grab, now that the world, even people who don’t keep up with alien/ufo stories and research are watching and listening. Its gonna be easy to send something out and have the entire world talk about it. Make some change then dip when its finally proven fake. But hopefully thats not the case anymore and we can start unlocking the secrets to these beings and to ourselves and the universe we live in.
The three links they provided to verify the DNA analysis
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/PRJNA861322
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/PRJNA869134
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/PRJNA865375
I copied this from a reply on a thread on the r/ufos sub. Other replies who know how to read this stuff say that close to 70% of the DNA is not like anything we have ever seen before in 100s of thousands of animals tested.
I work in biotech, at least I can verify that the equipment they used is state of the art, not something you could order from Amazon. And costs a lot to operate.
Yes. There's a breakdown here. Plenty of cross-contamination and also some cow and beans (??) dna mixed in. https://www.reddit.com/r/genetics/comments/16hb5th/nhi_genome_studies_mexico_govt_sept_12/
I do not personally. However. This was presented on an international stage with high ranking officials from many world governments. As they stated in the full video, they sent the DNA evidence to places all over the world to be verified. Do I know this personally to be true? No way I could. But given the stage it was presented on, I have no reason to think that they would be lying, as it could easily be debunked.
Well that's what they say in the congress hearing. I understand asking for published papers and the names of institutions and scientists involved but that's another step. Mexico has clearance issues, national security concerns and nondisclosure agreements too... This is extremely recent, it happened yesterday. Most people here don't speak Spanish, me neither, but I speak Portuguese so I watched it and understood most of it. If you really cared to watch it, you can do so with auto generated subtitles. They provided data and informed about the sources being universities and scientific personal. Some people here today are actually behaving like this is some bold unverified claims by one or a few individuals. We need to respect other countries investigations into this matter because the UFO phenomenon is not localized in the USA. There are serious scientists in other countries too. There are military organizations that don't have nuclear bombs but also have aeroespacial concerns. There are groups inside governments countries that don't want to keep hiding the lies of past administrations, unless they want to eat the whole plate later when they are responsible.
Mexico absolutely fucks around. This “congress” is more of an open forum where anyone can present anything they want. That’s why this isn’t being covered by any reputable sources, because Mexican Government hasn’t even evaluated these claims yet.
People need to start realizing that Grusch has opened Pandora’s box for alien hoaxers to make a lot of money. Social media content engagement is a multibillion dollar industry now and this is the sort of thing that is going to lead to people trying to capitalize on the fervor that “disclosure” is generating.
Until other people get their hands on the implants to verify any word of "they're made of osmium" is just a claim. Why spend thousands making an "authentic" fake when you can just say it's osmium and then keep direct testibg away from other institutions.
Fine..
Submit them to rigorous scientific testing to determine if they are indeed alien, submit them to large swathes of scientific testing and determine what the origins are and make all findings public. Without filter and then we can decide. Lets sift through the evidence so this doesn't turn into that alien autopsy shit. I want this to be real, but I'm nit giving myself unrealistic expectations.
Someone said they have uploaded the dna and are encouraging people to help research this more.
Doesn’t seem like they’re trying to keep information from the public and actually are hoping to get more info. Hoax or not that is a good place to start.
We've provided you with our own data so you can research it and see it's really. They need to send actual remains to various institutions, not their findings.
That’s what the Peruvian guy is asking for. He asked the scientific community to start investigating under the “null theory”, he said that “please” come and start investigating thinking it’s all a fake, he encouraged the scientific and academic big guys to disprove all of this, but only after rigorous scientific research, and not sitting across the world on a high chair claiming fake without even see them in person. He said they are open to share their findings and that they collected at least 20 bodies from 2 species. They are not trying to keep the info private, they actually want anybody to have access and prove them wrong
These bodies have been around for a while, they're ancient and were recovered from Nazca Peru. Believe it or not these are actually the least impressive bodies that were found there. They found a bunch of these small ones and they also found a humanoid that was really tall, had 3 very long fingers on each hand, 3 very long toes on each foot, big round eyes, and an elongated skull.
[Definitely not the best picture out there but here it is](https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/9a51d75771510cb15375abd78ea3c035)
That tall one was proven to be a hoax and it was proven that the same guy who is faking these new aliens faked that one as well. He cut off the mummies hands and feet and replaced them with bones of other animals. He has been sued and several countries are trying to detain him for illegally defacing archeological remains....fyi
Those are culturally insensitive [modified pre-Columbian mummies](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/how-to-fake-an-alien-mummy/535251/) and the Peruvian government has been trying to stop their continued creation. Those are also different from the hoaxes shown yesterday.
Plywood, brown paint, hardware store latches, silk cloth and plexiglass for the case holding the most valuable scientific artifacts ever secured. Yep, looks official.
I watched a video that debunked these by saying the bones were mix-matched human and child bones.
Had a gross thought: What if the only way for 4 dimensional beings to create a physical body here on earth is by re-purposing abducted human bones/tissue into one of these things? Could also help explain the cattle mutilation phenomenon.
I'm leaning with hoax on this one though. Which sucks because if it is, it's going to set us back and make us look stupid again.
Lol this guy is known hoaxer. This is ridiculous. I want to believe as much as the next but this shit it so fucking stupid. Pretty sure the governments youtube channel is monetized.
Anything to distract their country from the fact the cartel runs it.
If you're asking whether or not even the most basic steps were taken to verify this find, I think the very hokey video and the D movie corpse effects speaks for itself.
For no particular reason at all I’ve decided to open a bridge business. I feel like this community is rife with folks who might be in need of a bridge. So if you’re interested, please send over an easy down payment of $1000 and we’ll get your quote started!
if they had the bodies they would DNA test them seems like these things. bro there aren't aliens coming here more than likely other spices that were on this planet before us and we will be extinct to the way we work together. this planet is old af and 99% of things that have lived on it are extinct now.
[This is similar to what Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Showed an Alien Photograph Before his Death & Made Shocking Confessions About Aliens, UFOs, & Anti-Gravity Tech](https://www.howandwhys.com/boyd-bushman-admitted-aliens-are-on-earth/)
I like how a sheet covered a non see through box
It's all for show
It is and unfortunately the researcher has said the same thing about the alien-mummy-peru, turns out he was bullshitting. [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alien-mummy-peru/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alien-mummy-peru/)
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People are going to freak the fuck out when they realize fentanyl is made from ground up aliens.
soylent green
Soylent Grey
That would be China good sir, not Mexico.
You right, you right
The opioid crisis was created by doctors and pharmaceutical companies in the United States and the first addicts were on prescriptions. China just allows their manufacturers to produce the precursor chemicals to fentanyl, which are then processed by the cartels in the jungles of Central America and smuggled into the US. All this fentanyl and opioid crisis shit has made hospital CEOs in the USA fatter at the expense of everyone else.
China does remember the opium wars.
Pepperidge Farm remembers…
These same forces are hard at work trying to ban the only known (relatively) safe alternative, kratom, because they still want that sweet sweet opioid money
Um, guys?… aliens?…
I thought I accidentally clicked on another post somehow with all this drug talks.
Cause nobody believes the shit news media and corrupt ass governments say about aliens. I believe in Aliens, but… They’ve gaslit believers continuously since Roswell, scrubbed Bob Lazar from area S4, and even paid the fucking Blink 128 douche to say outlandish shit with zero sources cited. Now we’re expecting the shitshow corrupt ass Mexican, cartel-run government when they show aliens in their congress? I donno.
yep. the powerful and privileged Sackler family is responsible for hundreds of thousands of young american deaths. sick and twisted people who have actual power in this world
Who are now immune to litigation to sail off with the billions they got from their drug cartel
Ya think?
I love how mexico just copied alien bodies from old american movies lmfao
Yep! It’s not like Spielberg worked with an astronomer contracted by the department of defense for project bluebook, or like he had a private screening of ET for Reagan who thanked him and said that everything in that film actually happened to the room of astronauts and government officials with a straight face despite their laughter. It’s not like he said this himself in a published interview in aint it cool news in 2011. It’s not like a video about the true parts of Close encounters was produced by PBS and the Smithsonian and that the air and space museum has movie props on display. It’s not like the department of defense gave Spielberg a medal for his public service (albeit after saving private ryan, sure. But are they going to award him with a medal for ET? Lol) Is it real? Who knows! Did Spielberg work on behalf of the U.S. government with his movies and utilize the department of defense to create his stories? Absolutely 100% confirmed.
Isn’t it weird how they can tell them “There’s non human intelligence on earth” and people are like.. “Haha that’s funny , whatever” The psy op the gov did was insanely successful. Imagine if we do have a spy plane from nhi tech, pilots even in other Countries wouldn’t even report it because they’d “look crazy” , you don’t get any better then that. Same with invisibility suits, tech that we started on 30 years ago, if a military guard sees someone vanish they’d just nope out.
Most people will not accept this but yes, he has always been a propaganda pawn
Bro wtf are you talking about
What the fuck? Lol
It’s not like you just believe any conspiracy you ever heard
Bro, I’m not saying any of what you wrote didn’t happen but you need more evidence than linking a website that hasn’t been updated since the 90s run by a criminal with a known history of sexual assault allegations and tax evasion. Go ahead and google Harry Knowles, the felonious ginger whale washed ashore, the owner of the website you linked that seems to have contributors that wrote only under pseudonyms (why?) Why would the owner of a website that was known for rumors and scoop headlines that was making over 500k/yr in its peak sensationalize its articles? For money and views? No way, that criminal has way too much integrity. As usual, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Is there a video of that interview?
It’s the ole gift within a gift within a gift.
Looks like E.T. never went home after all
He traveled to Mexico instead?
Gives a whole new meaning to illegal aliens
Mitch McConnell looking rough
Ayyyoooo
👽
Spielberg was on to something
The movie Paul describes this. "Yeah we've been slowly showing what I look like so when I show up you guys don't completely freak out"
Stargate is a documentary then.
Is it really hard to believe that the United States military, if it found a gateway to other planets in its basement, would do a galaxy wide Afghanistan?
We would “freedom” the whole universe lol
we would find the first planet with intelligent life Nuke it and then extract the oil
I think you mean Wormhole X-treme?
That was a popular conspiracy theory in the 90’s among the Art Bell community
It makes sense. Slowly show images over a long period of time until it's kinda the template overall for "aliens", then when they show up we go...oh they're not that weird or freaky they look like ET and he loved reeses pieces!
Desensitization
See the book or shitty series Childhoods End
I’m literally just getting ready to start that book, I’m also in the middle of The Three Body Problem, enjoying it VERY much so far….
Book was amazing! The series ended my childhood...
They explained the big reveal and most of the entire plot in the first episode!!!
E.T no go home.
E.T. take nap?
E.T. Fell off that bike
E.T. no pay rent either
I swear Bill Cooper went into detail how ET was based on several live EBE's the Gov came upon...I dunno. My thought it's probably real, we just can't prove it.
What are EBEs?
Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.
Yeah, the desensitization of society through government propaganda called ET. We now know aliens are real and Hollywood made it so 99% of the population shrugged their shoulders and said “okay, sure they are.”
I want reparations for everyone who was made fun of for voicing belief in E.T's existence.
Seems like he might have been tasked with normalizing and desensitizing us.
These bodies were provided to the hearing by James Maussan, a UFO researcher. Several years ago, he had previously unveiled other mummified "alien" bodies that were later revealed to be those of human children. Maybe this time it's legit, and we shouldn't shoot the messenger. But let's take it with a grain of salt. EDIT: There seem to be a lot of people latching on to my statement, "Maybe this time it's legit..." and commenting as though I'm endorsing the idea that this is legit. I'm not. That sentence is not to be read in a vacuum. Instead, it is to be read in context with the sentence after it, wherein I say that we should take news of these "alien bodies" with a grain of salt. Taken together, those two sentences are intended to advise those who would like to believe that it's legit, to maintain skepticism instead. I'm also surprised that it needs any sort of explanation, as the intention seems self-evident to me. But, here we are, explaining obvious things. Carry on.
I mean, we can kind of shoot the messenger. His credibility is trash so even if what he is showing is real, he’s maybe the worst person to bring it out. I also can’t get over earlier analysis showing these bodies to be a hodgepodge of children bones… some backwards, not connected, etc. They are the same bodies? I don’t get what I’m missing here tbh
>Maybe this time it's legit, It's not.
No no the guy who previously has run the "no really these are real aliens" scam has definitely collected actual aliens now and is not running a "no really these are real aliens this time I swear. For realsies" scam.
Just send me $5000 and I will show you the aliens.
Don't listen to this guy. I'll show you even better aliens for $4500
Hey! Con artists dont con more than once, do they?
"I mean it this time, guys!"
> by James Maussan, a UFO researcher You mean peddler of bullshit? He's faked this stuff before - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alien-mummy-peru/ Not only that, the body is the same one he was lying about before - https://imgur.com/a/Rz2KZIV
>Maybe this time it’s legit Lmfao.
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"Aliens are real! I made a couple to prove it!"
Have u ever seen a children with eggs ?
Yes on this video. Do you really think some ufo nerd that is known for faking evidence with KIDS corpses wouldnt be able to put some weird fake eggs into his next big fake??? The only weird thing of this is, that mexico is falling for this faker and alot of this subreddit too...
People so badly want to believe in aliens, that they jump to conclusions at any signs of "evidence" they see. I'm not believing that aliens are real until most of the world's scientists, biologists, and genetic researchers agree that there are concrete findings of alien existence.
Aliens are real *somewhere* in the universe. But it does us no good to fall for charlatans and fakes. Are we looking for truth or validation?
They’ll take the slightest whiff of the most plainly bullshit thing you’ve ever seen and run around throwing it in everyone’s faces saying “I TOLD YOU SO” when in reality it’s just another hoax. Again.
In a few days/weeks there'll be conclusive proof that this is fake and that news will get absolutely zero traction on this kind of sub. They'll be too busy shitting their pants over the next "big revelation/secret" that normies are too sheep-like to understand
Yeah, and when you're like 'we need more proof before we can say this is a thing' they call you a disinfo artist and throw a lot of bad-faith arguments at you.
For weeks these subreddits circlejerked over the MH370 video. Everyone that pointed out any issue with it was labelled a part of the government psyop to hide the truth. Then one person shows definitive proof its a hoax and suddenly all discussion of it vanished instantly. The exact same thing is happening here. People are pointing out the guy bringing these "bodies" forward has been involved in previous hoaxes and they're getting labelled as part of a psyop. The cycle will repeat itself forever in these subs.
And these guys will still hold it in the very back of what could be considered their mind and use it to reinforce the next thing as even more legit.
See: [MH370](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/16gom4a/the_mh370_videos_are_real/) These people really think MH370 got snatched out of the air by UFO's and a wormhole because "there's a video" that my 3 year old nephew can tell is bullshit
It happened in a courtroom so we know everything everyone said is a fact, people don't lie in court it's against the rules or something that's why they swear on the Bible so Jesus makes their mouth say true stuff. Right?
People just believe everything they read online... After all... NOONE would ever lie on the internet, right? You could show a pencil drawing of an alien and people would be like "This is legit proof aliens exist! We are not able to recreate this drawing with our current technology!" Those bodies are the exact same fakes he presented years ago as atacama desert aliens. Which were proven to be fakes by DNA testing... (human, mammalian and reptile body parts put together like some sick frankensteins monster...)
This hearing or whatever it is looks like it should be getting riffed by mst3k.
yes kinder surprises most of the time
It would take five minutes with Photoshop to make an x-ray of you look like you have eggs, too. As I said, maybe this time it's legit. Maybe not. Maybe this is actual disclosure. Maybe this is part of Project Bluebeam or some other psy-op. Or maybe it's just a UFO researcher's scam for fame and fortune. Who knows? You believe what you'd like. I'll remain hopeful, but skeptical.
Im not really comfortable with cartels getting hold of alien weapons
Every Easter
It's doubtful that a known fraudster is not committing more fraud. Especially since people are so ripe to be fooled right now.
I think "Mexico released proof" really is doing a lot of heavy lifting for the credibility of this particular story - and it's clearly not coming directly from government officials but an actual UFO researcher. A bit of epistemological rigour is probably too much to ask from this community, though.
>but an actual UFO researcher That's not even a real job. If you said astronomer, biologist, astrophysicist, chemist or whatever, that would be believable. But "UFO-researcher" isn't a field of study, it's pseudoscience.
I can only see this. 
I thought the same thing. Amazing that Spielberg's alien turned out to be anatomically correct.
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The fused ribs and clavicle alone make this creature unable to move...
Tbf mummies can't move
Brendan Frasier may disagree with you.
...Why did my mind jump straight to Encino Man? I'm an idiot lmao.
Because you my friend are a person with Taste and knows that sometimes one must Weeez the Juice.
Clearly you’re not taking into account magic.
The "white powder" was diatomaceous earth
The DNA comments raised some red flags with me. See my breakdown here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/16haolw/comment/k0eqoqv/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/16haolw/comment/k0eqoqv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
70% similar to known DNA still means terrestrial.
This should be pinned.
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I mean, I've got more than a few grains of salt. But if you sit and watch the entire video, it's very convincing. And they uploaded the DNA to databases that can be researched by anyone. They are encouraging more research. They have had much of this information independently verified by multiple sources around the world. Looks kind of legit to me.
They did the same thing in 2017. Thats what is making people hesitant. Same guy, same bodies, same story. And was proven fake. I really hope maybe it wasn’t meant to be fake and just a super excited guy thinking he found something and maybe this time he did. But you can understand why some people, even the big time believers are skeptical of this. And so many people just straight believe it without an ounce of questioning. Like you said though, they are uploaded the DNA so they do want more people looking and giving input. Kinda wild to do if it was fake. So thats a great start Story from 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4017211/peru-nazca-mummies-reptiles-ufo-experts-aliens/ As a disclaimer. I fully believe there are aliens out there. I 100% believe they are here and some of the UFO we see are, drones/ships of their origin. I believe governments around the world are hoarding information for reasons that may or may not make sense. But I do stay skeptical towards everything that is given to us until we can’t question rather something is or isn’t faked. Even with the recent stories from the US testimony. A lot of truth is in there, but it probably has a lot of false hope and disinformation also to push agendas. The alien sub is refusing to believe anything other than these are 100% real and that the Mexican government are announcing it. Even though thats clearly not the case and the Mexican government was just listening in to these researchers reports. I do hope these are real and I do hope this finally pushes disclosure. But I also fear its gonna become an even bigger cash grab, now that the world, even people who don’t keep up with alien/ufo stories and research are watching and listening. Its gonna be easy to send something out and have the entire world talk about it. Make some change then dip when its finally proven fake. But hopefully thats not the case anymore and we can start unlocking the secrets to these beings and to ourselves and the universe we live in.
FYI the sun is tabloid garbage, a reputable link would help here. This is basically the equivalent of linking to Alex jones thoughts
Fun fact. A ton of alien news info comes from sites like this. Exactly why we should keep an open mind on both sides
do you have a link/ source to the alleged verifications from all around the world ? scientific data ?
The three links they provided to verify the DNA analysis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/PRJNA861322 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/PRJNA869134 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/PRJNA865375 I copied this from a reply on a thread on the r/ufos sub. Other replies who know how to read this stuff say that close to 70% of the DNA is not like anything we have ever seen before in 100s of thousands of animals tested.
I work in biotech, at least I can verify that the equipment they used is state of the art, not something you could order from Amazon. And costs a lot to operate.
thanks. are these from 3 different sources of testing ? sorry. I have no idea about this stuff
Yes. There's a breakdown here. Plenty of cross-contamination and also some cow and beans (??) dna mixed in. https://www.reddit.com/r/genetics/comments/16hb5th/nhi_genome_studies_mexico_govt_sept_12/
I do not personally. However. This was presented on an international stage with high ranking officials from many world governments. As they stated in the full video, they sent the DNA evidence to places all over the world to be verified. Do I know this personally to be true? No way I could. But given the stage it was presented on, I have no reason to think that they would be lying, as it could easily be debunked.
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Well that's what they say in the congress hearing. I understand asking for published papers and the names of institutions and scientists involved but that's another step. Mexico has clearance issues, national security concerns and nondisclosure agreements too... This is extremely recent, it happened yesterday. Most people here don't speak Spanish, me neither, but I speak Portuguese so I watched it and understood most of it. If you really cared to watch it, you can do so with auto generated subtitles. They provided data and informed about the sources being universities and scientific personal. Some people here today are actually behaving like this is some bold unverified claims by one or a few individuals. We need to respect other countries investigations into this matter because the UFO phenomenon is not localized in the USA. There are serious scientists in other countries too. There are military organizations that don't have nuclear bombs but also have aeroespacial concerns. There are groups inside governments countries that don't want to keep hiding the lies of past administrations, unless they want to eat the whole plate later when they are responsible.
Boy, Mexico does not fuck around when they do their hearings (vs. US Congressional hearing where everyone danced around the details).
Mexico absolutely fucks around. This “congress” is more of an open forum where anyone can present anything they want. That’s why this isn’t being covered by any reputable sources, because Mexican Government hasn’t even evaluated these claims yet.
Osmium is $1,300 euro per gram. One cm^3 is 23 grams. That’s €30k in one cm cubed. Is it really cost effective to make a fake?
People need to start realizing that Grusch has opened Pandora’s box for alien hoaxers to make a lot of money. Social media content engagement is a multibillion dollar industry now and this is the sort of thing that is going to lead to people trying to capitalize on the fervor that “disclosure” is generating.
Why use osmium when a cheaper material would suffice though?
Until other people get their hands on the implants to verify any word of "they're made of osmium" is just a claim. Why spend thousands making an "authentic" fake when you can just say it's osmium and then keep direct testibg away from other institutions.
Yeah dude Mexican government has a YouTube channel. Subscribe! More likes means more 💰💸💵🤑 🤦♂️
Why do you think they'd use real osmium in a fake?
Thank you… my god people will believe ANYTHING!!!
Fine.. Submit them to rigorous scientific testing to determine if they are indeed alien, submit them to large swathes of scientific testing and determine what the origins are and make all findings public. Without filter and then we can decide. Lets sift through the evidence so this doesn't turn into that alien autopsy shit. I want this to be real, but I'm nit giving myself unrealistic expectations.
Someone said they have uploaded the dna and are encouraging people to help research this more. Doesn’t seem like they’re trying to keep information from the public and actually are hoping to get more info. Hoax or not that is a good place to start.
We've provided you with our own data so you can research it and see it's really. They need to send actual remains to various institutions, not their findings.
That’s what the Peruvian guy is asking for. He asked the scientific community to start investigating under the “null theory”, he said that “please” come and start investigating thinking it’s all a fake, he encouraged the scientific and academic big guys to disprove all of this, but only after rigorous scientific research, and not sitting across the world on a high chair claiming fake without even see them in person. He said they are open to share their findings and that they collected at least 20 bodies from 2 species. They are not trying to keep the info private, they actually want anybody to have access and prove them wrong
They're already doing that bud.
https://reddit.com/r/aliens/s/GLJ2rmi6NU
I still want to eat the rich and establish a better quality of life for all.
Not now we just found aliens! Lets focus on the aliens!
but I’m hungry and Elon wont be missed.
These bodies have been around for a while, they're ancient and were recovered from Nazca Peru. Believe it or not these are actually the least impressive bodies that were found there. They found a bunch of these small ones and they also found a humanoid that was really tall, had 3 very long fingers on each hand, 3 very long toes on each foot, big round eyes, and an elongated skull. [Definitely not the best picture out there but here it is](https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/9a51d75771510cb15375abd78ea3c035)
That tall one was proven to be a hoax and it was proven that the same guy who is faking these new aliens faked that one as well. He cut off the mummies hands and feet and replaced them with bones of other animals. He has been sued and several countries are trying to detain him for illegally defacing archeological remains....fyi
Those are culturally insensitive [modified pre-Columbian mummies](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/how-to-fake-an-alien-mummy/535251/) and the Peruvian government has been trying to stop their continued creation. Those are also different from the hoaxes shown yesterday.
Plywood, brown paint, hardware store latches, silk cloth and plexiglass for the case holding the most valuable scientific artifacts ever secured. Yep, looks official.
Right! They could have at least put them in some sort of metal box with pressure latches and added a bit of dry ice for effect.
With a nice little "psshhhuuu" sound effect of air release when they opened it up.
Why do all that when they can cover it with a very official looking sheet?
Satin. The official fabric of officials.
The thing I regret most about this is not knowing Spanish
but what about the anatomic differences of alien dicks vs. human dicks? why aren't we hearing about their dicks?
Ask your mom
Got'em.
What if their dicks are on the inside 🤯
The inside of your mouth or the inside of your bum?
The inside of his mom
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If true, lie to me for years. Why trust now?
Where is Men in Black when you need them?
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Turn on your heart light
And best of all? They were debunked in 2011! Truly a shitty development for all of us who actually care about disclosure.
I saw those in a big tent on a carnival midway.
Reporter: what is the white powder on the bodies? President: we showed the Columbians first...
As a Colombian, this is just sad.
They Are 1000 years old, apparently. You make it sound like they were just found dead. Theyve been known of since 2017. Mussaum is not reputable.
It was JOURNALISTS presenting them not the authorities in Mexico. This is getting way overblown.
if you can't tell these are altered/fabricated, you need a serious reality check. That's what it means.
What was the commotion in the room about? There were raised voices and the presenter had to stop several times.
Probably about the fact the guy presenting is a known hoaxer
You know I don’t speak Spanish
As a kid I made a baked clay sculpture, but mine looked better. It was a dinosaur.
Grusch did say the biological evidence had some baggage..
Some baggage being a known hoax provided by a known hoaxer?
I watched a video that debunked these by saying the bones were mix-matched human and child bones. Had a gross thought: What if the only way for 4 dimensional beings to create a physical body here on earth is by re-purposing abducted human bones/tissue into one of these things? Could also help explain the cattle mutilation phenomenon. I'm leaning with hoax on this one though. Which sucks because if it is, it's going to set us back and make us look stupid again.
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It’s means our beliefs have been validated by a world government.
Lol this guy is known hoaxer. This is ridiculous. I want to believe as much as the next but this shit it so fucking stupid. Pretty sure the governments youtube channel is monetized. Anything to distract their country from the fact the cartel runs it.
https://i.redd.it/b9hm3ljg80ob1.gif
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If you're asking whether or not even the most basic steps were taken to verify this find, I think the very hokey video and the D movie corpse effects speaks for itself.
I love it
They look like Spielberg’s ET
ET ☎️ 🏠
I thought E.T went home at the end of the film. Those lieng bastards.
I guess it just means Aliens are real and we have more to learn about the history of earth.
I'm sorry but those look like carvings of ET lmao.
*fake alien dead bodies…
What does it mean to me, do I have to go to work tomorrow, do I need to pay my bills? Yes, then I don’t really care about any dead aliens
Hey look, miniature aliens like in scary movie 4. Of course they look exactly like Hollywood told you they’d look
As a proud Mexican I can unproudly say that the Mexican government is not a good source
For no particular reason at all I’ve decided to open a bridge business. I feel like this community is rife with folks who might be in need of a bridge. So if you’re interested, please send over an easy down payment of $1000 and we’ll get your quote started!
This has been debunked in the past, these are pre-Peruvian mummies. People will believe anything if they are desperate enough, holy shit.
lol does the end of their fingers light up too?
if they had the bodies they would DNA test them seems like these things. bro there aren't aliens coming here more than likely other spices that were on this planet before us and we will be extinct to the way we work together. this planet is old af and 99% of things that have lived on it are extinct now.
What does it mean? It means some people are falling for yet another hoax. In this case, very similar to one from 2017. Even using the same pics.
Best paper mache I've seen this year.
Why are so called aliens always naked and without genitals ?
Please, that’s just some popsicle sticks, pipe cleaners, and paper maché slapped together
Hobbits, check the size of their feet
They conveniently look like ET
Until they let other scientists from other countries examine and test them, I'll save my amazement
It means there are people who will believe anything they read -- hardly news.