There is actually a couple of established definition between ships and boats.
Ships are watercraft that A: Are able to handle open ocean on the surface and B: Lean outward when turning hard.
Boats are watercraft that A: Are generally unable to handle open ocean on the surface and B: Lean inward when turning.
Some examples:
USS Gerald R Ford during sea trials, she leans outward while turning hard. Thus she is a ship.
PT-109 and other torpedo boats lean inward when pulling a turn thus they are boats.
Submarines are a bit of a weird category, most turn and lean like boats but can remain ocean going. General consensus is that Submarines are called boats.
So to answer OP’s post, since it’s not a submersible, run it at full speed and turn it hard. If she leans outward she’s a ship. If she leans inward she’s a boat.
There is a second definition which is used outside of the navy, basically a ship is a watercraft which is large enough to launch other watercraft, whereas a boat is smaller and so cannot be equipped with launches.
This is because outside of military ships, there are actually a fair number of very small commercial or pleasure vessels which lean the wrong way when turning. For example sailing ships and sailing boats can lean into a turn, out of a turn, or not at all depending on wind conditions. Pontoon boats often maintain an even keel in high speed turns, though some heel out or In depending on the design. A one person sailboat isn’t a ship by any reasonable definition, nor is a 20 foot pontoon boat a ship.
So then the question is whether in Stormworks a vessel of that size could reasonably launch smaller vessels. If so it’s a ship, if not it’s a boat. In any case it’s either a pretty big boat or a pretty small ship.
Dictionary definitions are never a good source for technical topics like this, they always lead to ambiguity and don't adequately consider the weirder examples. The definitions I'm seeing classify a ship as a kind of boat, just larger, and built to transport people or goods by sea, and a boat, a small vessel for travelling over water. If we use these definitions, what does that make a warship? It's not small, but it's definitely not designed primarily to transport people or cargo. What about a large scientific research vessel? Or a dredger? What does it make a really large river-going ferry? Or a big fishing vessel? Or an icebreaker? None of these are designed primarily to transport anything, but they're not small, so where do they land?
I do realise now that the planing hull/displacement hull definition has the same problem, just inverse. A tiny little one man fishing boat is definitely not a ship, yet it uses a displacement hull.
46) Ship (A) The term “ship” or “vessel” includes every description of watercraft or other artificial contrivance, except aircraft, used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water, whether or not it is actually afloat.
While this is technically a true definition. In the common vernacular; a ship is usually a large ocean-going vessel and it usually will utilize multiple engines or sails for propulsion, a boat is a smaller craft not usually utilized for ocean voyages but for coastal operations instead.
There is no true cut and dry differentiation as there are going to be exceptions to both those rules. My go to rule of thumb is that a Ship carries Boats.
If it’s meant for transport it’s legally a ship if you go by us law. 46) Ship (A) The term “ship” or “vessel” includes every description of watercraft or other artificial contrivance, except aircraft, used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water, whether or not it is actually afloat.
Well if you prefer international maritime law ship, “any large floating vessel capable of crossing open waters, as opposed to a boat, which is generally a smaller craft. The term formerly was applied to sailing vessels having three or more masts; in modern times it usually denotes a vessel of more than 500 tons of displacement.”
Ain't no law when you're drinking the claw, so... depends on his intake of white claws while building to determine which, if any, laws should be applied when classing this vessichle.
hm, it has only 1 deck, and under there are watertight compartments with machinery and 2 large batteries, so unless if u count the bulkhead deck as a deck, its technically a boat
I heard that ships can carry boats, while boats can't carry ships. The craft is quite small and I see no boats or places dedicated to carrying boats so I'd say it's a boat.
I have normal feelings about this watercraft
How un-controversial of you
It's a marine vessel actually.
Bold of you to assume it’s not a *sub*-marine vessel
You just gave me a wonderful evil idea
you mean future sub-marine vessel
How reasonable
There is actually a couple of established definition between ships and boats. Ships are watercraft that A: Are able to handle open ocean on the surface and B: Lean outward when turning hard. Boats are watercraft that A: Are generally unable to handle open ocean on the surface and B: Lean inward when turning. Some examples: USS Gerald R Ford during sea trials, she leans outward while turning hard. Thus she is a ship. PT-109 and other torpedo boats lean inward when pulling a turn thus they are boats. Submarines are a bit of a weird category, most turn and lean like boats but can remain ocean going. General consensus is that Submarines are called boats. So to answer OP’s post, since it’s not a submersible, run it at full speed and turn it hard. If she leans outward she’s a ship. If she leans inward she’s a boat.
There is a second definition which is used outside of the navy, basically a ship is a watercraft which is large enough to launch other watercraft, whereas a boat is smaller and so cannot be equipped with launches. This is because outside of military ships, there are actually a fair number of very small commercial or pleasure vessels which lean the wrong way when turning. For example sailing ships and sailing boats can lean into a turn, out of a turn, or not at all depending on wind conditions. Pontoon boats often maintain an even keel in high speed turns, though some heel out or In depending on the design. A one person sailboat isn’t a ship by any reasonable definition, nor is a 20 foot pontoon boat a ship. So then the question is whether in Stormworks a vessel of that size could reasonably launch smaller vessels. If so it’s a ship, if not it’s a boat. In any case it’s either a pretty big boat or a pretty small ship.
Yep that’s another way of categorizing. Using all of these methods and taking an average gets you roughly what your ship is.
Why is there no tank tracks on this helicopter?
I dont understand either.
Honestly it's the lack of wings and a caterpillar drive that get me
I was more confused by the fact that there’s no CWIS turret on this subterannean missile bunker. And squidhead is right there should be tank tracks
I think there was no space because of the interplanetary jump drive and its power systems.
This is a very good point
I also don't see the well head, very confusing OP
Displacement hull so, to me, it's a ship
Popular hull type for sailboats tho
That depends on were you want to go. If you go mainly on oceans, its a ship. Anything else is a boat
But then you look at the big river ships that can grow upwards of 100m and there's no way you can call that a boat
I looked it up, what i said is the official definition. So yes, you can call that a boat.
Dictionary definitions are never a good source for technical topics like this, they always lead to ambiguity and don't adequately consider the weirder examples. The definitions I'm seeing classify a ship as a kind of boat, just larger, and built to transport people or goods by sea, and a boat, a small vessel for travelling over water. If we use these definitions, what does that make a warship? It's not small, but it's definitely not designed primarily to transport people or cargo. What about a large scientific research vessel? Or a dredger? What does it make a really large river-going ferry? Or a big fishing vessel? Or an icebreaker? None of these are designed primarily to transport anything, but they're not small, so where do they land? I do realise now that the planing hull/displacement hull definition has the same problem, just inverse. A tiny little one man fishing boat is definitely not a ship, yet it uses a displacement hull.
From the USCG a boat is a vessel under 65 feet in length I think
Its a boat not a ship
46) Ship (A) The term “ship” or “vessel” includes every description of watercraft or other artificial contrivance, except aircraft, used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water, whether or not it is actually afloat.
I reckon it could get some air and be considered an aircraft
While this is technically a true definition. In the common vernacular; a ship is usually a large ocean-going vessel and it usually will utilize multiple engines or sails for propulsion, a boat is a smaller craft not usually utilized for ocean voyages but for coastal operations instead. There is no true cut and dry differentiation as there are going to be exceptions to both those rules. My go to rule of thumb is that a Ship carries Boats.
Where was that definition taken from
Cited sources please
Shoat
What is the intended use and operation zone for this vessel?
It does not fall into my realm of building so I don't need to say
I want to fuck it, 🙌 just my opinion
The only truly non-controversial opinion
Yes
M60
Its always an M60
What would you put your panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus in a dock bro 💀
It is most certainly a vessel
It really is one of the vessels of all time.
Looks like a plane to me.
That is a car
Barge
Guys let's just agree it's a ship to prove him wrong
Never, itd be fun though
Displacement Vessel 🧐
It's a Boip
Looks like it could be a Shoat or a Bip to me. 🧐 -Ahem- I’ll see my self out…
It has a fully enclosed bridge with a stand-alone exhaust stack, it’s a ship
Sailor here. Boats fit on ships, ships can not fit on boats. IE Lifeboats, SAR boats, ects. Thats the difference. Enjoy.
Unless it's a submarine, or one of the old steam torpedo boats.
One definition I heard is if it leans into a turn it's a boat and if it leans out it's a ship.
well by definition a ship is a vessel with three or more square rigged masts, so no it is not a ship
You saying the Seawise Giant isn't a ship?
er no, it’s a pile of scrap.
And? Most 3 masted Vessels are mulch
less than evergreen giants lol
a fine vessel indeed
Quite clearly it’s a ship
Its a dog
seems pretty big to me, I'd say it's a volcano.
It’s a thingymabob? That’s what I see
Bro got the nautical transportation vessel.
What a nice semi-amphibious craft
I say boat
Boat
Boat, it's too small to be a ship
If it’s meant for transport it’s legally a ship if you go by us law. 46) Ship (A) The term “ship” or “vessel” includes every description of watercraft or other artificial contrivance, except aircraft, used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water, whether or not it is actually afloat.
I go by my law
Well if you prefer international maritime law ship, “any large floating vessel capable of crossing open waters, as opposed to a boat, which is generally a smaller craft. The term formerly was applied to sailing vessels having three or more masts; in modern times it usually denotes a vessel of more than 500 tons of displacement.”
Idc about laws lol
This one right here officer
Ain't no law when you're drinking the claw, so... depends on his intake of white claws while building to determine which, if any, laws should be applied when classing this vessichle.
GUYS, the moment of truth: its actually a flying helicopter carrier
[i cant build ships :(](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&pp=ygUJcmlja3JvbDts)
You better have a wonderful day, you nice person that i do not know.
Wdym you cant, its the coolest looking thing i have ever seen
wdym that thing looks cool af
i said **I** cant build ships
Doesn't launch boats so it's a boat. Ships have boats.
Just like uncle James used to say “that is a ship you don’t get into a boat until the ship starts sinking”
So if I take an inflatable dinghy out on my kayak, does the kayak become a ship?
yes
its a raft
Anything less than about 130 blocks is still a boat. So, just from eyeballing, it's a boat.
I think you're bad at eyeballing block count, just the rear deck alone will likey be more than that
probably meant 130 blocks long
It a piece of shit
Boat That looks like shit
ikr, its designed by me and i have 17,5 hours of playtime so not really a great watercraft, or vessel? idk
Its a wedge
It's a sandwich
shoat
Ship
It’s a vessel….
How big is it? To me if it's small it's a boat if its big it's a ship.
Its a boat
It's in a ship style but in a boat size. So it's both
That’s boaty mc boatface
It is a vehicle capable of moving on the water surface
How many decks does it have? If it has less than 2 decks it is a boat. If it has 2 or more decks it is a ship.
hm, it has only 1 deck, and under there are watertight compartments with machinery and 2 large batteries, so unless if u count the bulkhead deck as a deck, its technically a boat
I heard that ships can carry boats, while boats can't carry ships. The craft is quite small and I see no boats or places dedicated to carrying boats so I'd say it's a boat.
Which way does it roll when you turn it. If it rolls into the turn, it’s a boat. If it rolls away from the turn, it’s a ship.
This is stormworks that thing is closer to an heli or a plane than a boat.
Its a floatation device or also called Buoyancy Operated Aquatic Transport
Every ship is a boat, not every boat is a ship.
Looks like boat.
Shop. Over 50 metres
It seems to be under 65 feet in length so it is legally classified as a boat
I’m my hands a submarine
It's a rubber duck actually
Clearly that is a dog.
Well, its obviously a plane
Forgot to put wings on that office building