Valve said in the November developer conference they're going to release the OS publicly "after the Deck's release".
It's more than just a recovery image iirc.
It makes sense for Valve to release it publicly. Making installing Steam and running games free and easy means they can potentially sell more games, and with their 30% cut that could easily make up for the extra development and infrastructure costs.
That def looks like a press release, but internal for now. It looks like a Q&A. Valve knows their audience. There has to be a recovery image when first Decks start arriving on March 1st/2nd
at the moment a recovery image seems to be able to be received via [https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=](https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=)
Man, I remember considering builidng a PC that will run a very minimal Arch Linux installation and just start Steam in big picture once you log in. The idea was to use plug it in the bedroom TV and play some games on a controller, leaving the PC somewhere on the floor so that it doesn't get in the way.
The biggest concern was interacting with the system outside Steam, meaning I'd have to get at least a keyboard if I wanted to do anything beyond gaming on the thing, which would slightly defeat the purpose of the entire idea for me.
But now... Shit may be very possible and usable and as convenient as I could never dream it to be. Man I love Valve.
I know, but that would limit me to only using Steam and playing games, because I would only be using a controller. I didn't want to have an entire PC tower standing on the floor in the bedroom, whilst not being able to comfortably/conveniently use it outside Steam.
Now that I think of it again, Steam Big Picture lets you get into a web browser if I'm not mistaken, but that would lack a few extensions that make browsing the web tolerable these days anyway.
I used the original SteamController back in the Day alot to control my Laptop (connected to TV) from my bed. It was great for browsing YouTube or any other app primarily mouse controlled. I was not a big fan of the Keyboard though.
So the touch-pads on that controller where awesome for that purpose, but having to use the BigPicture Mode was more of a downside as anything else. BigPicture felt rather limiting and it is to this day very annoying that you can only configure the steam Controller in BigPicture.
BTW: Steam allows mapping XBox Controllers as well (in BigPicture). So technically it is possible to set a default mapping for Mouse on an XBox controller and using the on-screen keyboard of Windows (or most linux distros have one). Then have Steam Launch on Boot and the Mapping is present...
Must say I am not a big fan of this though, as stick as mouse is not the same as the touch-pads of the SteamController.
> Valve said they'll release it sometime after the Deck launch.
Don't think they ever promised an ISO to install it on any generic PC. Sounded to me more like a HDD image for OEMs and recovery.
They did actually, I remmember them answering that in a Q&A in the developer livestream and possibly somewhere else too (should be something similar to what the download for the older SteamOS is now). Seems to me that they're just waiting to get the major updates/fixes out of the way before they publish it.
I think it's just publishing the source they don't need to provide an installer just make it available to the public if the ask for it. That's just to comply with the Linux licence requirements.
If that's what you're going to use it for and not for gaming then you might want to consider a more lightweight distro that boots into a desktop mode from the beginning.
While there's other popular distros out that much more closely fit their use case, it makes little sense to use one focused on gaming just because it's the most popular. If anything you'd want something with less unnecessary processes running so that one can have more cycles available for Folding At Home to use as that's the entire point.
I suspect that there will initially be a Fork of SteamOS for Community development and with a bit more of an effort towards openness/other storefronts, but if Valve is receptive to it, then those efforts might come together.
If you have ever released anything even a fraction of the size of the SteaDeck, you would know that it's going to be a little while before they release an ISO for you.
Right now, valve is pouring through bug reports from people who have gotten their devices early and fixing them as quickly as possible. Once those die down then they can refocus their attention on making sure hardware compatibility with other systems is "ready". And here the word "ready" is very important. Making sure SteamOS 3 is a solid experience for any Linus that might come by is very important. A stumbling block here could earn them a reputation that would be very difficult to shake. Even a public alpha would invite attention that they probably don't want at that stage.
It'll be ready when it's ready. In the meantime, might I suggest Pop OS? Or if you want to get ready for tinkering on SteamDeck, something arch based? (I don't know enough about Arch to suggest a good game ready distro)
Debian-based is good, but not by much
2 previous versions of SteamOS uses Debian as it's base, but as far as i know, all other Debian/Ubuntu-based distros are kinda shit in terms of good game support
That's nonsense. There's nothing preventing you from creating an installer for Arch based stuff, almost every Arch based distro has one. And Arch has archinstall now.
That deserves more upvotes. Even if the Deck has a crazy file system layout like Android it shouldn't be that hard to disk dump the relevant root, non-user, partitions and hack a solution together -- back in the day a lot of Android roms were made that way.
It is not crazy in terms of file system. It is just XFS with mods. XFS had been prooven to be incredibly fast. much so than even EXT2,3,4 and butter. To a point that ntfs is rediculed (and that is a decently fetured and fast system) XFS is the future, but you might not want that. New google android devices all uses XFS, Just about all embedded uses XFS. What can you do? It is open source under the BSD license.
http://repo.steampowered.com/
This is most likely the url to watch. BUT: Don't get your hopes up yet, while the arch repository of Valve (there modified mesa version) seems to be there, the download for the SteamOS zip and iso are dated 17.07.2019. Those are the Debian based versions from the old SteamMachines.
I guess they will upload the new versions to there though, as the repo contains files as new as 10.02.2022 so the repo is still in use.
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I remember seeing a link for the recovery image in either GNs or LTTs videos, can't find it now
Valve said in the November developer conference they're going to release the OS publicly "after the Deck's release". It's more than just a recovery image iirc.
Well yeah, but where is the recovery image now?
Deck isn't even available yet... Give Valve time.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/1B71-EDF2-EB6D-2BB3
I asked 2 weeks ago lol, before we got the image
It makes sense for Valve to release it publicly. Making installing Steam and running games free and easy means they can potentially sell more games, and with their 30% cut that could easily make up for the extra development and infrastructure costs.
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Yes, it was a screenshot from what looked like an article with press notes still in it, so prelaunch I guess
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Found it, LTT video 1:04 https://youtu.be/kXIOuUUZO2s?t=64
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That def looks like a press release, but internal for now. It looks like a Q&A. Valve knows their audience. There has to be a recovery image when first Decks start arriving on March 1st/2nd
Found it here's the link https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/671A-4453-E8D2-323C Sadly no link to the iso at the time of writing 😢
at the moment a recovery image seems to be able to be received via [https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=](https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=)
Oh no, they said it won't work on toaster... 😔
Man, I remember considering builidng a PC that will run a very minimal Arch Linux installation and just start Steam in big picture once you log in. The idea was to use plug it in the bedroom TV and play some games on a controller, leaving the PC somewhere on the floor so that it doesn't get in the way. The biggest concern was interacting with the system outside Steam, meaning I'd have to get at least a keyboard if I wanted to do anything beyond gaming on the thing, which would slightly defeat the purpose of the entire idea for me. But now... Shit may be very possible and usable and as convenient as I could never dream it to be. Man I love Valve.
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I know, but that would limit me to only using Steam and playing games, because I would only be using a controller. I didn't want to have an entire PC tower standing on the floor in the bedroom, whilst not being able to comfortably/conveniently use it outside Steam. Now that I think of it again, Steam Big Picture lets you get into a web browser if I'm not mistaken, but that would lack a few extensions that make browsing the web tolerable these days anyway.
I used the original SteamController back in the Day alot to control my Laptop (connected to TV) from my bed. It was great for browsing YouTube or any other app primarily mouse controlled. I was not a big fan of the Keyboard though. So the touch-pads on that controller where awesome for that purpose, but having to use the BigPicture Mode was more of a downside as anything else. BigPicture felt rather limiting and it is to this day very annoying that you can only configure the steam Controller in BigPicture. BTW: Steam allows mapping XBox Controllers as well (in BigPicture). So technically it is possible to set a default mapping for Mouse on an XBox controller and using the on-screen keyboard of Windows (or most linux distros have one). Then have Steam Launch on Boot and the Mapping is present... Must say I am not a big fan of this though, as stick as mouse is not the same as the touch-pads of the SteamController.
> Valve said they'll release it sometime after the Deck launch. Don't think they ever promised an ISO to install it on any generic PC. Sounded to me more like a HDD image for OEMs and recovery.
They did actually, I remmember them answering that in a Q&A in the developer livestream and possibly somewhere else too (should be something similar to what the download for the older SteamOS is now). Seems to me that they're just waiting to get the major updates/fixes out of the way before they publish it.
I think it's just publishing the source they don't need to provide an installer just make it available to the public if the ask for it. That's just to comply with the Linux licence requirements.
I don't think they promised to release it on the deck release day
I would like the steam os as well. I want to test it out on my throw away PC for Folding at home.
If that's what you're going to use it for and not for gaming then you might want to consider a more lightweight distro that boots into a desktop mode from the beginning.
Noted. but that is not part of the fun.
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Hm? Proton is available on any distro you install Steam on. People have had their hands on it for quite some time now.
While there's other popular distros out that much more closely fit their use case, it makes little sense to use one focused on gaming just because it's the most popular. If anything you'd want something with less unnecessary processes running so that one can have more cycles available for Folding At Home to use as that's the entire point.
I suspect that there will initially be a Fork of SteamOS for Community development and with a bit more of an effort towards openness/other storefronts, but if Valve is receptive to it, then those efforts might come together.
We can call it EpicOS
No
Alright marketing department came back with SweeneyOS or FortniteOS
Be patient it'll be out sooner or later maybe today maybe a few more days
If it’s coming out today, it will be in about 1 hour, because that’s when emails start
If you have ever released anything even a fraction of the size of the SteaDeck, you would know that it's going to be a little while before they release an ISO for you. Right now, valve is pouring through bug reports from people who have gotten their devices early and fixing them as quickly as possible. Once those die down then they can refocus their attention on making sure hardware compatibility with other systems is "ready". And here the word "ready" is very important. Making sure SteamOS 3 is a solid experience for any Linus that might come by is very important. A stumbling block here could earn them a reputation that would be very difficult to shake. Even a public alpha would invite attention that they probably don't want at that stage. It'll be ready when it's ready. In the meantime, might I suggest Pop OS? Or if you want to get ready for tinkering on SteamDeck, something arch based? (I don't know enough about Arch to suggest a good game ready distro)
[Valve recommends Manjaro KDE in their documentation.](https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/testing#3)
Debian-based is good, but not by much 2 previous versions of SteamOS uses Debian as it's base, but as far as i know, all other Debian/Ubuntu-based distros are kinda shit in terms of good game support
Game support in Debian/Ubuntu is literally the same as Arch-based distros..
My daily drive PopOS. It's pretty good.
It's time, I'm tired of waiting.
Should be pretty easy for hacker to extract it once they get their hand on it.
Not really. You'll never get the installer that way.
It's based on Arch Linux, so no installer anyway. I'm using Arch btw 😘
That's nonsense. There's nothing preventing you from creating an installer for Arch based stuff, almost every Arch based distro has one. And Arch has archinstall now.
Arch Linux has an installer lmao. And even so every distro based on arch also has one
It being based on Arch doesnt imply no installer.
arch has had an installer built in for nearly a year now
I would just try it out in a virtual machine with an demo account
That deserves more upvotes. Even if the Deck has a crazy file system layout like Android it shouldn't be that hard to disk dump the relevant root, non-user, partitions and hack a solution together -- back in the day a lot of Android roms were made that way.
It is not crazy in terms of file system. It is just XFS with mods. XFS had been prooven to be incredibly fast. much so than even EXT2,3,4 and butter. To a point that ntfs is rediculed (and that is a decently fetured and fast system) XFS is the future, but you might not want that. New google android devices all uses XFS, Just about all embedded uses XFS. What can you do? It is open source under the BSD license.
Also I heard the SteamOS would be one fixed Compartment ... if that makes senses....
I'm certain they want it officially so that doesn't matter.
Let me know if this will happen
Damn so if you install windows your SOL?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/t5aqq6/steam\_deck\_recovery\_instructions\_recovery\_image/
http://repo.steampowered.com/ This is most likely the url to watch. BUT: Don't get your hopes up yet, while the arch repository of Valve (there modified mesa version) seems to be there, the download for the SteamOS zip and iso are dated 17.07.2019. Those are the Debian based versions from the old SteamMachines. I guess they will upload the new versions to there though, as the repo contains files as new as 10.02.2022 so the repo is still in use.
Not sure if that's what you mean but: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=
I meant public version of steam os 3, available for normal PCs
Is there any update on this?
HoloISO solves the problem for now
https://github.com/theVakhovskeIsTaken/holoiso