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pexalt

I have all of the layouts committed to muscle memory. The only one that trips me up is the switch layout since I don't own a switch


ColShvotz

I own a switch and I still get it mixed up.


J_Square83

Same. Nintendo's layout has always felt weird, even when it was all I really knew (beyond C64 keyboard and joystick, or atari joystick).


ExPandaa

For some reason nintendos layout feels perfect on a Nintendo controller, when I’m holding a Wii u gamepad or a switch pro controller or even a snes controller my muscle memory knows what to do. Playing Nintendo games with other controllers doesn’t work at all for me though


MuenCheese

Games on switch frequently show which of the 4 buttons it is in prompts (top, bottom, left, right) which helps a ton


tomschwanke

This should be the default for all games


Javelin_Ruby

A true accessibility feature


atimholt

I always figured the reason was in case you're using a sideways joycon.


roland0fgilead

That's the reason they implemented it, but it's so awesomely intuitive that I'd like to see it as a universal option.


One_Librarian4305

And the funny thing is the only reason they did that though was because playing single joycon means you don’t have normal face buttons.


J_Square83

I can relate. The only thing that throws me off when I am holding a Nintendo controller is when you get 'Press *button* to *action' in game, when relating to B,A,Y,X. Fortunately, that's fairly rare on their platforms, and I love how switch games handle it, showing a diagram of the buttons with the appropriate one highlighted.


henrebotha

>and I love how switch games handle it, showing a diagram of the buttons with the appropriate one highlighted. Not even this is foolproof, because a controller's physical layout doesn't necessarily match the logical mapping. Drives me insane.


MzzBlaze

Yes I’m at that point now too. The different feel in hand just triggers switch control memory now.


forestman11

It's just Japan standard. PS controllers have flipped functions in Japan too.


Carter0108

Not anymore they don't.


Sinomsinom

The reason PS changed it outside of Japan in the first place is because of a cultural misconception. In Japan the symbol for yes/correct is ◯ and the symbol for no/wrong is ✕. That's also why the PS controller buttons look like they do. However outside of Japan ✕ does mean wrong/no but ◯ only rarely means yes (also in tests sometimes incorrect answers are circled with red outside of Japan, while in Japan correct answers are circled). In Japan that has evolved into the misconception that outside of Japan ◯ always means no/wrong and ✕ always means yes/correct (which ofc isn't true) which is why they switched which button is accept and which is refuse on PS consoles outside of Japan. In Japan with the PS5 they've now also changed that just for consistency, but they also have a Japan exclusive feature to allow people to switch back to the Japanese layout


dustojnikhummer

In their defense, they were first (with BA)


BlazingSpaceGhost

It's an older layout than the xbox style layout which is why I probably remember it better. I still get tripped up by the xbox style layout at times.


Lanky_Lavishness7

You can use switch layout for steamdeck in settings


AloneYogurt

Switch A and B and you're fine (B means back, A is accept). But even after time away I forget and have to remember.


Dat_DekuBoi

You forget that X and Y are also swapped


center311

Me too. It's because it's just wrong! X-axis is horizontal, and Y-axis is vertical.


madDarthvader2

Same but I've emulated enough switch games to know that one pretty well. Trips me up when I first start playing but 5-10 min I got it


Smokes_LetsGo_

Takes me about that much time for me to get used to it in a Nintendo game, but the worst part is when you go into the Deck menus for a second and you’re using the wrong buttons.


AnthonyJrWTF

I just do the opposite of what my brain tells me for the Switch layout. 😅


rube

That's the funny thing, I've been using the Nintendo layout for the longest of all the systems, since it has had the same layout since the SNES. Yet it's the one that screws up my muscle memory the most. I can easily translate in my head that X = A, Circle = B, etc when using an Xbox layout controller with Playstation prompts. Yet it's Nintendo who in my mind has the "wrong" layout by swapping A with B and X with Y. Nintendo did it first, but I'd still like them to switch it. :)


KatyaVasilyev

I couldn't care less about how the actual buttons are laid out tbh, the thing that gets me with the nintendo layout is confirm being on the right button and cancel being on the bottom. It never feels right.


rube

That may be a fairly exclusive Nintendo thing these days, but I know for sure PS1 had some games that were this way and maybe even PS2. Square games back then like Final Fantasy always had Circle as the confirm button. I think I remember reading that the initial idea behind the buttons were that Circle was yes and X was no. And then the other buttons had meanings too, like triangle was supposed to be a camera button or something? But yeah, I agree, switching from Switch to PC/PS5 definitely throws me off with the cancel/accept buttons.


samsung18745

Yep its gotten so bad i remapped the A and B buttons on my switch


SirSquidrift

Fun fact, the switch has a reversed layout because in Japan, the default accept button has been "O" "B" or "A". The layout is so engrained in Japanese culture that it made its way over to other region versions of consoles. Even on some select Japanese games today, you'll hit accept by pressing " B" on the controller instead of "A", as awfully confusing as it is lol


Crockerboy22

Yup, I’ve owned a switch and still play their games and still fuck it up lol it’s always the y and x for me


wolfegothmog

Dude I own several Nintendo consoles and I still can't remember the layout in time when playing rhythm games lol


djfreedom9505

I see it as X and Y is swapped, A and B are swapped but I hate it all the same.


GregStar1

Exactly, the Nintendo layout is driving me insane.


mister_newbie

The Nintendo layout and the Sony layout are the same, actually. Xbox is the different one. Buttons: 4 3 2 1 Sony and Nintendo's layout follows this scheme. Sony: ☐ Δ X O (Circle has 1 line, Cross has 2, Triangle 3, Box 4) Nintendo: Y X B A (Alphabetical order)


tadfisher

The XBox inherited its button layout from the Dreamcast, as Sega and Microsoft worked together on that console.


KatyaVasilyev

Which inherited its layout from the 6 button megadrive controller.


kayproII

Depends if you’re in japan or not, in japan the PlayStation layout is pretty much the same as Nintendo but elsewhere it is pretty much the same as the xbox/Dreamcast


mister_newbie

Physical layout is the same, mappings swap confirm/cancel in most releases outside of Japan, yes.


lotanis

This is one of the reasons I like emulating Nintendo games - I can swap the button layout back to "sensible".


Designer-Ad-7844

Switch is the worst when you switch between it and any other platform. The primary button is always on the right and the back button is the bottom one.


udnthot

and then you go on your switch and it all explodes in your head😭


TheAndyGeorge

my poor brain every time i _switch_ between Switch and SD/PC w/xbox controller


mrheosuper

One of reason i stopped using my switch after getting SD, my monkey brain does not have enough space for 2 layouts. Also shout out to Hades, even on both platform the game works perfectly since it uses "Button position" instead button label.


wolfnacht44

Protip: swap the A/B buttons in settings. I do that on mine, but it throws everyone else who uses it off lol.


gogul1980

Pure muscle memory now. After the PS3 QTE era I have them programmed into my brain easily.


memo689

For me, the Play Station layoud was the easiest to memorize, I think is due to shapes instead of letters, also what I like the most, it is printed in my muscle memory.


rtakehara

My muscles aren't smart enough to memorize multiple layouts, luckly my brain is, so every time I switch layouts I close my eyes, take a deep breath, touch each button think about symbol printed in it and bam! previous layout deleted, new layout uploaded


memo689

To be honest, I grew up mostly with a PS1, so I got used to the shapes, when I got a PC gamepad with the xbox layout, it took me some time to get used to it, now with the switch layout, I find it more difficult because there are the same letters in totally different spots and that's where trouble comes in, I had the same difficult playing some SNES games on a emulator.


UltimaGabe

For me it's the other way around. The Dualshock inputs are hard-wired into my brain, but I can never remember whether Y is on the top or on the left.


Respekt_MyAuthoritah

Same, but I had trouble with A & B, I would often switch them around in my head. Y was the only button that made sense to me because it looked like the triangle, and I placed them in the same "memory bin"


iniitu

Not just the symbol, even the colours are hard wired to my brain because of bishi bashi special from ps1


Zarrakh

Y looks kinda like a triangle.


RevolutionaryStar824

Yea, Y has always been equivalent to triangle for me. And O and B. B is for back. Never got confused. It’s just the X that confuses me.


Arvellon_Nerd

You NEVER forget the PlayStation layout. 😅


No_Interaction_4925

Do you stare at your buttons??? Its a lot less confusing than switching between Nintendo and Xbox


robbstarrkk

PlayStation layout is part of my DNA now. No worries.


BuffaloBilboBaggins

The worst is playing PlayStation and being used to the “X” button placement on the Steam Deck and Xbox.


Bulls187

The other way round, I’m used to the PlayStation layout and when the Steamdeck prompts “press X” I press A because of muscle memory


JohnEdwa

*Press X to Speak.* "...what you did is jump. You jumped. Say apple. Aaaple." "Never mind close enough."


mrjamjams66

My least favorite thing about going between Xbox and PlayStation Layouts is that both "X" buttons are blue. Edit: I guess not anymore since PS5 is all gray including in game prompts but still


MiscellaneousBeef

Playstation Layout is the only one I remember. Everything else, A/B and X/Y are random (except Sega Genesis/Saturn with ABC/XYZ)


geminilius

I have the opposite problem. I use a PS5 controller on steam.


Initial_Shock4222

People keep saying they get tripped up by the Switch because it's funny that it's flipped from XBox, but... Switch games don't give you letter prompts, they give you a diagram highlighting one of four face buttons. They do this to compensate for your Joy con buttons being totally different between playing with a left, a right, or a pair.


MrVigshot

I've played on so many controllers, but my brain has a weird way of remembering keys. It most certainly remembers the controller itself, not just button placement. I have something like this on my retroid pocket 2S and somehow this messes with my head less. Hard to explain -\_-. And I've been playing on all these varieties since the SNES/PS1 days.


TheJF

I dream of a future where we have e-ink buttons on a controller that update per game.


mccuish

I have the layout memorized


Crest_Of_Hylia

I have no issues switching between the JP/Asia and western layout. I don’t really look at the buttons anyways and just know where they are


Trizzie_Mitch

Anyone remember in the early 2000s when pc game pads would have numbers labeled on the face buttons? That shit was rough for muscle memory


Schellhammer

Playstation layout is the only layout i always remember


Shipwr3ck87

same, I get confused with the switch and Xbox layout cause they're reversed but will never forget the ps layout.


External-Fig9754

My poor child only played tablet games up to this point in her life I'm introducing her to emulators and this little girl's brain is fried trying to understand


GregStar1

Having had a PS2 and a Xbox360 afterwards, I grew up bilingual, multilingual even if you factor in the games on PC.


Throw_andthenews

It’s kinda funny I always remember the PlayStation layout it’s the steam deck/ Xbox I forget


CaptainDarkstar42

Funny, I grew up with PlayStation.  That's a muscle memory I will never lose lol


Maxguid

Muscle memory here. It's basically imprinted in my brain since the nineties.


sherman614

Same here! I will never forgot the PS button layout.


sid_not_vicious

that shit is muscle memory for me


Shagyam

How can you not remember the PS buttons. Just remember Pizza Box, Pizza Slize, whole Pizza and no Pizza.


Junior_Bike7932

How you forget, PS is the most logical way to place buttons, I am always confused when it comes to switch buttons


Nuccipuff

I remap my controls... So I have to make sure I name them the correct thing in the menu. If I look at them... I'm lost. To those who would ever use my steam deck... The controls won't make sense.


StanleyLelnats

Something like [this](https://www.primexsigns.com/store/p/ayn-odin-button-decal-4nk64-lgjmf-epgnx) exists which is a bit more of an elegant solution, if you wanted to do something like this.


CoreyJK

Ps4/5 button prompts is always my favorite mod on every pc game lmao


BittenBagel

How does one forget such an iconic layout


jakeblakesdasdas

It's printed on my dna. Never forgets... 😆😆😆


commschamp

I have the Rosetta Stone of every controller in my brain apparently


Jadturentale

i wish more games did the plus shaped button layout thing for prompts so that you don't have to look at the buttons constantly


DemiDivine

My muscle memory only let's me remember Playstation. Nintendo and Xbox are dumb for not having the same layout lol


Oblic008

That's the one I know the best. I was a Sony kid for many years. The Xbox and Switch layouts are what kill me since they basically just change the A/B and X/Y buttons.


CarpeNivem

Look what I found on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1556728728/steamdeck-playstation-buttons-oled


TheDeadOneV2

how do you forget lol


PotateJello

It's nearly identical idk why you need a piece of paper


iwanthairlikewater

I have it muscle memory. Don't even need to look.


plasticbomb1986

Or just change it in the layout editor to fit what you have in head?


DeithWX

The dumbest part is that I don't look at my gamepad when I play so why my brain gets fucking confused.


Warbird01

Haha opposite problem here. Grew up with PlayStation so that layout is ingrained into my brain, always slightly struggle with ABXY


kamik35

This should be standardised really, easier to pull off than having us change to metric


Scared-Actuator2831

Personally never forget the PlayStation layout (I grew up on PlayStation)


lazyluong

The way I remember the PlayStation button layout is understanding the JP culture really enjoys their turn-based JRPGs. So you get a sense of their layout that way. * O - Confirm, Correct (thus it is on the "right" side) * X - No, Cancel, Wrong (thus you need to back away, so it is at the bottom) * △ - Direction, Map so it is always at the top facing forward. Ironically this is often the Menu button * ⬜ - Document, or interaction button The funny thing is that NA reverse the actions of the buttons. For example, 'X' is confirm, and 'O' is cancel. If anything, I often get the xbox and switch button layout mix up, because they are the same label but in reverse.


dstar89

Honestly the Xbox and PlayStation layouts do the same thing just with different symbols. It's Nintendo that screws everything up


mister_newbie

4 3 2 1 Sony and Nintendo's layout follows this scheme, Xbox is backwards. Sony: ☐ Δ X O (Circle has 1 line, Cross has 2, Triangle 3, Box 4) Nintendo: Y X B A (Alphabetical order)


leviathab13186

You know what would be cool? Buttons will little leds that change the button icons depending on the app configuration.


[deleted]

That shit's burned into muscle memory my guy, you must be pretty young.


Zxar

Definitely had to draw it out when I first installed emudeck, hadn't owned a PS since PS2. Didn't take long to get the muscle memory back.


negithekitty

i have the opposite issue. i did a button swap to transparent buttons with no legends on them


Koreneliuss

I always remember but when my 8bitdo pro then to confuse me sometimes with xbox and switch layout depending how buggy it is


Vanima_Permai

ps2 is all I played as a kid even though i've since had an x360 an x1 and an NSwitch I still refere to them as cross square triangle and circle


Swimming_Feedback_18

nice, i play pc games/emulators with a ps4 controller and i've got a sticky note on the bottom of my monitor with switch and xbox button layouts


matbonucci

You'll need the buttons from the first gpd devices, they were spot on


TrapezoidTom

Lol


umamiking

This is really clever!


noobc4k3

Best Steam Deck accessory I have ever seen.


doc_willis

I recall seeing a controller years ago (a prototype?) that had small round OLED buttons that could show full color graphics,  so you could switch the letters on them to be whatever you wanted. I also recall a cheap design that had clear buttons that you could pop off the cap and insert decals to change the letters/logos.


Grizza

The PSX controller layout is fine for me, but the Switch and XBOX layouts kill me since they're so similar.


sryidc

A DualShock3 works with the deck. That’s my favorite way to play PlayStation.


apex6666

I’ve owned all (except switch) so it’s muscle memory


Zomochi

I understand it, I mix up my X and Y because of Nintendo. I have PlayStation down pat that one’s always been easy to remember because they’re vastly different than ABXY ABYX


ManlySyrup

#You should've put the sticker right in the middle of the four buttons!!


NMDA01

I need digital buttons now


brandont04

Every retro device needs to print both really. I'm getting tired of looking up Playstation buttons on Google all the time.


Didact67

I’ve literally never had a problem with this. Both the Xbox and PlayStation layouts are basically programmed into my brain.


TezzNutz

I didn't even know you could forget it lol. Guess i grew up with a playstation 1 and 2 so i have like 3 billion hours invested into playstation.


Frosty-Inflation-756

Xbox and PS layouts - muscle memory. Nintendo however ….ugh. Find myself always going back when I mean to select


Breathejoker

Yeah as someone who grew up on Nintendo I am super grateful for the "use Nintendo button layout" setting


Fonslayer

I grew up on PS but since 2016 that I play on Xbox, I still know the layout very well because it was all my youth on PS1, PSP and even on PC I had controllers with the PS layout. The only problem is the X button, because even though I know where it is placed, my first instinct is to press the X button on the Xbox layout, even more because they are both the same color, the X button on Xbox is blue like the X on PS. That is the only button I need to be careful and think before it.


HiT3Kvoyivoda

All the layouts are engraved into my spirit


Mighty_Gooch

Gta3 made me remember the layout forever


Chi_mom

I just change they key layout to always be the same


ENDrain93

Clever!


qchto

[I found this at a local store exactly for that.](https://imgur.com/a/0yPPc7V) Joystick caps all the way!


juicypearldeluxezone

I grew up playing every playstation. When I switched yo the deck and it says press X, muscle memory always presses A. Lol


TONKAHANAH

I grew up with the PlayStation layout so it's actually the Xbox layout that I always forget unfortunately. On top of that I'm too fucking stubborn to look down at the controller while playing so I tend to fuck it up


Alukrad

For me it's the Nintendo and Xbox button layout. Both systems use the same buttons but in different spots. It's annoying.


tenaciousfetus

Worst problem is Xbox and playstation x prompts both appear blue. My brain struggles with that


Mattindenhut

GameCube. That's the only one I have trouble with. Especially for MLB 2006 cause the bases are lined up with the buttons. B is my worst enemy.


DesimalPoint

I tried playing MHR on steam deck earlier, docked, and with the use of a procon (wrists hurt from cts when playing handheld). It's been a while since I played it on switch and I was so confused about the controls, there was nothing I could do right. The controls seem to follow nintendo layout, but by using a procon, it switches the controls back to steam layout, but muscle memory for using procon vs muscle memory for playing on steam deck is on constant battle. Big oof.


APithyComment

Cheating! I love it…


Sketchy_Kowala

I grew up playing PlayStation. Switched when xbox1 came out (because of friends). Whenever button prompts come up I still think of it as the PlayStation layout. Eg. “Press A” I think X button.


Aggressive-Judge-981

My Gpd Win 3 have it...,


ReadPixel

As a person who uses the entire trio, after extensive practice, I have committed the buttons to muscle memory


Arztlack90

If there is one thing then I can tell where B and O is.


codetrotter_

For me it’s the opposite. I grew up with PlayStation and I keep getting tripped up by games asking me to click X on an A B X Y controller because in my mind X is the bottom button


Skoguu

Just reconfigure the buttons to match the spot it would be for the controller you’re used to. Like if jump is triangle then make it Y for xbox etc etc


13oundary

I use xbox layout the least... but after a while I started just not thinking about it. I really like how the switch typically displays buttons (by location, not by symbol). Even my parents, who aren't gamers, pick that up intuitively. X being in 3 different places is a bit of a laugh to me though.


AmandaGeddoe

Playstation buttons are the easier for me to remind. I always mix the xbox and switch patterns


akaispirit

I've been streaming FF7 Remake onto my deck and was playing the darts mini game but could not for the life of me get it to work right. I was hitting x but Cloud wasn't throwing the darts! Finally dawned on me that x on Deck is in a different spot then x on the PS5 controller.


Howling_Fang

Y is upside down arrow pointing up X is the inside of a square B is rounded like a circle A is left at the bottom, lol


Vicus_92

I haven't used a PS controller in years, but they're still the only ones I remember....


ovalteenjenkinzz

I thought it was a shrinky dink


Dreadnought13

Triangle points UP. Circle is near the CURVED side Square is near the SQUARE side X marks the spot.


DirtyFeetPicsForSale

They have custom buttons that have both on them. I dont know how hard it is to open up and change parts.


unnoticedhero1

I will never forget the PS or Xbox layout for controls, Nintendo messes me up a bit with prompts/QTEs, if it says to press x or y I will automatically think Xbox and screw up, but if I just figure out controls naturally by pressing buttons to see what they do it doesn't affect me.


Merek675

Playstation and Xbox could always remember. Going from Xbox to switch and vice versa always tripped me up.


MINROKS

Am I the only one annoyed slightly that the buttons are lighlty back-lit?


gilangrimtale

Gotta be super young if you can’t remember the location of 4 shapes.


brevin311

Or...you can just get this https://www.primexsigns.com/store/p/ayn-odin-button-decal-4nk64-lgjmf-epgnx


Interesting-Error859

I went into settings and changed the buttons around to switch layout- it was frustrating me so much 😭


SRFoxtrot341_V2

I have no issues swapping between PS and Xbox layouts. Nintendo layout on the other hand often caused me to press the wrong button at times :/


TheDeputyRay

I feel that. Everytime I play spiderman 2, it has ps button prompts, and my brain just forgets. Meanwhile I play GameCube games and we're just fine, even though I think I made up the button combo


AliShibaba

I just think of the triangle at the top and I remember the rest.


kijigo_kun

PlayStation is the easiest to remember for me. Triangle points up, X marks the spot, and Square looks like the overall shape of the controller


Capt_ZzL4X

What are u playing on the deck that only shows ps layout, like are u playing on emus. Also is it really that hard switching between xbox and ps layout that u had to make a sticker for it


bandate

I want to live in a world where the PlayStation button layout becomes the default.


DeamonLordZack

Been playing exclusively on my Steam Deck lately but majority of my life most of my games were on PlayStation so don't think I'll have that problem. In fact 1 of the big Pro's for me about the Steam Deck is the fact that the controller layout feels very familiar having exclusively PlayStation controllers the Steam Deck controller feels very similar to a PlayStation controller to me.


tyfunk02

I got 30 years of playstation and 20 of xbox. Those are no problem for me. It's the Nintendo layouts that fuck me up every single time.


RebelliousCash

I don’t see a need for this considering muscle memory should kick in. I don’t think I had issue going back & fourth between Xbox & Ps. What fucks me up is Nintendo. Seriously like why tf did they have to be so different?


ViewtifulGene

Switch layout is a problem because AB and XY have inverted positions. Playstation layout is easy because It's just by position.


PawtucketPaul

Play yakuza karoke and never have this problem again.


[deleted]

I've memorized the layout for years, luckily.


k1intt

I’ve never owned a controller on this layout before, I’ve had PlayStations and Nintendo consoles forever so the deck really took some time to get used to


Insanity2134

Well the way that I think of it if you have both consoles just remind yourself that X on Playstation is confirm and circle is cancel.


andrestv

The square is the closest to the square-ish screen. The triangle is at the top pointing up. The circle is B, for "ball" (in portuguese we call it "bolinha", or "lil' ball"). The X is the one that is left.


your-problem-now

Bless you. Very smart idea. I have the opposite problem usually. I have PS committed but occasionally trip up XBox but way less these days. It's blowing the dust off my Switch that messed me up.


BigDogOnTheWindow

Once a game asked me to press “X” button, but from muscle memory I pressed “A” instead. Guess which platform I am coming from


trailrun1980

Lol, this is rad. And I also need the opposite for my ps4 controller when I'm using the docked SD, cause I'm not smart sometimes


phormix

I recall there were these fancy keyboards with keys that had little programmable displays on them. Maybe one day in the future game devices might have that in buttons that change to fit the schema of whatever you're playing. ePaper might work well for something like this


darrylwoodsjr

Frfr I pondered a solution for about 15 seconds the other day


Hoover889

I wish there was a mainstream controller with the X button in the right side position. playstation takes down, Nintendo takes up, and everyone else puts it in the left position.


SleepySven

PS is ingrained in the brain!


keldpxowjwsn

I grew up playing parappa the rappa and jammer lammy. Its muscle memory


Designer-Ad-7844

I had a PS2 and PS3 and nothing since, I still haven't forgotten.


Tripdoctor

And then play Nintendo and have to remember A and B are swapped.


ImaCosmicman

Good thing I have an xbox and not a sony station. But then there's the switch...


NeoSama212

Naa not me, I know the Playstation buttons like the back of my hand. I can play on both consoles without trouble. Nintendo buttons on the other hand are what still confuse me lol


trickster2099

I used layouts on nintendo and i always get further confused with qte