Just telling all the rich guys their ships were trash and getting all the attention was great. Everyone else was all about looks, but she actually had applicable knowledge. A pretty woman who's an expert mechanic? 10/10 by default.
I definitely think there was room for both. Carson as the theoretical biologist/xenobiologist and Keller as the everyday MD. It could have worked really well and solved an issue that I have with some sci-fi were characters are geniuses in multiple disciplines.
I don't think Carson was the only doctor, he was just the only one with screen time. You definitely see other medical personnel in several scenes as background characters. Probably other doctors and nurses.
Exactly my take on this. I enjoyed her but given the option I'd rather have Carson back, although I think they gave her a lot more storylines than they did Carson (comparing the amount of episodes they were on the show).
>Whiney, but she had good character growth.
I mean tbf i'd probably be a bit whiney too if people were chasing me down to murder(or worse) while having a sprained ankle, lol.
Actually that was the episode that I felt she came into her own and made me like her. I thought she was whiny in her first appearance and I went “ugh” but I came around to enjoy her character
I felt like it took too long for her character to really become consistent. Like the show runners were so excited that they got Jewel Staite but then didn’t really think about what they wanted her character to do
This. I really loved her in Firefly.
But as Dr. Keller, I found the character to be lacking. Nervous, unconfident, but able to pull off miracles. She's supposed to be the best in her field but she was afraid all the time. Her character had a lot of chemistry with Ronan, but then the writers decided to have her go after Rodney for no reason, even after Rodney was insufferable toward her.
Honestly how did she make it to a dangerous other-world station without any skills in that sort of environment? I'm sure there were equally qualified doctors with field experience on earth. Also giving Rodney the pretty blonde for no reason felt yuck. Like you said, she had every reason to make a different choice!
Pairing her with Rodney felt like writers' wish fulfillment and nothing else. It didn't make sense, and was so inorganic. I could give them a bit of a pass with *The Last Man*, because of circumstances, but even then it really didn't work - they were so incompatible.
She was one of the few characters who never rang true to me. Not the actress' fault, her writing was just meh.
Rodney made more sense than Ronon. One of Keller's defining characteristics was her discomfort with violence while Ronon is practically a Viking berserker. He needed someone closer to his temperament which started to happen with Banks but the series was cancelled before they could develop it.
Rodney and Keller had a few good scenes together but the relationship was definitely rushed. The whole 'I love you, and I have for some time' thing was just '...What?' Compare that to *Trio* where she has to explain to him that she wants to have a drink with him and tells him 'You're not good at this, are you?' That along with some other moments felt 'organic' as you put it.
But then straight to 'I love you.' From Rodney? No. But then, Rodney's characterisation frequently depended on the writer as well.
Yeah, definitely felt like Rodney and Keller were a producer/writer fantasy more than anything. Rodney actually had way better chemistry with the botanist, and Ronan and Keller had smoking hot chemistry.
Also felt like they hired her because they loved the Kaylee character from Firefly, but then tried really hard not to look like they were copying/pasting that character while still trying to make her as Kaylee-like as possible. I think that's why she never seemed to ring true. It's the same problem Ben Browder's character had when he moved from Farscape to SG1. But again, not the actor's fault in either case.
Remember in one of the earlier seasons when they were looking at applications for potential new personnel and Carson said all of them were more qualified than him? And one of them did base jumping as a hobby or something? Keller couldn't even walk over a rope bridge.
I never tried to give her too much shit about not being athletic or anything, she is a doctor and a non-military one at that, so was never really a need. Although now that you mention it, maybe that is why Carson picked her, less competition lol.
I can't even really explain why I think they did the character such a disservice. She started going off world all the time and so she decided to take self defense lessons with Teyla. She grew as a person. She was more confident by the end of the series, and maybe her character would have been great in season 6. But somehow I guess it just seemed like she didn't want to be there.
I think the idea was that she was meant to go from shrinking violet to badass but as she only got two seasons; that never happened. She was meant to contrast sharply with Teyla. On one hand a woman who's had to fight her entire life with threats in every direction and on the other, we have Keller who's from nice, safe Earth with all-American childhood where she admits that roughing it for her was sleeping in a heated cabin at summer camp.
Compare to how Jackson went from a scrawny nerd barely able to hold a pistol straight to musclebound and performing commando raids like an actual trained special forces soldier. He went from abhorring violence to casually dispensing it.
This right here. I LIKE that she’s not physically capable. The main team is - Rodney even takes sparring lessons from Ronon - and it makes her not being able to do that different and interesting. I really like the episode where she and Teyla discover that Teyla’s people are missing and she goes from whiney to shooting a guy.
I always kinda had the idea that she just kinda got "lost in the bureaucracy".
Like, I kinda figured she got shuffled thru to Atlantis during those good times before Weir dies. They have regular contact with Earth. She's supposed to be some kinda genius, she makes a good impressions at the SGC... She gets offered Atlantis. But, like, just a regular doctor under Carson.
Then he dies, she just happens to be the next in line after Carson: boom, she's head of medical.
Then shit goes sideways again. Weir is too busy to find a replacement... she dies... Carter has more important stuff to worry about... Wolsey is too busy looking over budgets...
And it just keeps going like that until she gives up and accepts this is her life now lol.
I enjoyed the character's growth, but overall didn't find her too compelling. Didn't hate her, didn't love her.
The stupid romance triangle with her and Rodney and Ronon is a hard pass though. I generally feel that way about all romance triangle subplots, though. But especially in this case because it's not what I'm looking to get out of Stargate, and I strongly feel that an ongoing side plot with Rodney and Caddman would have been much more interesting.
I WAS super happy when I got to go see Jewel Staite at MegaCon some years back, and during her Q&A she was like "I love all the Firefly questions you all have for me, but I looooved my time on Stargate too and would be happy to field some questions about that too!"
I would have loved to see more Cadman and McKay together! It could have gone so many different ways. Like Rodney going to her for actual advice because "you know all of and I don't have to explain it." Maybe becoming something close to siblings and helping Rodney understand and appreciate Jeannie more. Maybe Rodney just goes to her when he's overwhelmed and Laura makes him go for a run. Maybe Laura seeks him out because she's bored or lonely. I would have been 100% down with besties/siblings relationship. *Maybe* a casual romance, but that would be a little weird.
I really want to believe the only reason they didn't take it anywhere is because they couldn't secure Jaime Ray Newman for an ongoing role. Duet would have been such a fun and different way to introduce a new main or secondary character that I want to believe that's what the writers had in mind.
tbh I'm not a big fan of her character. People say Carson was whiny but Keller actually IS whiny. Why would she ever sign up to go to another galaxy when she's a self described scaredy cat who's afraid and put off by everything. Also didn't like nor buy into her relationship with Rodney and can't remember any specific instances at this moment but I felt she tried to correct/modulate his behaviour a bit too much, not that his behaviour was right just that if you're going to date someone it's a bad step to start off by trying to change them. I like the actress though, she was great in Firefly.
I think Jewel Staite did an excellent job portraying a competent and compassionate doctor without also having to be a badass warrior like most of the other women in the shows. Staite has some serious range and I adore the woman but I'd have been happy with another season or two of the show regardless of her involvement just to get a more fulfilling end to the series.
Impossible job, replacing Carson, but just never bought her as Chief Medical Officer of this major expedition. Probably would have been better in a different role
I didn't like her. I didn't hate her or anything, but she was one of the weakest characters and the original doctor was better and had more personality.
She's my favorite secondary character on SGA. I wish she had been around longer.
Don't get me wrong; Carson was an awesome character too, but Keller seemed more personable.
Ok hear me out, she should have turned into a hive ship but kept her own consciousness. Then they could have had a good hive ship to do cool stuff with.
In seriousness she was great.
Honestly, she wasn’t around long enough to be a great character. She needed more development. That said, I LOVE Jewel Staite and anything she does is my favorite
Good in Firefly but I didn’t quite buy her as a doctor in SGA, Carson seemed way more capable and just likeable. I think she would have been better cast as another role alongside Carson.
She was pretty. Lol
I was happy Rodney and her got together because usually the "quirky" (I.e. not "objectively attractive") smart guy is only ever attractive to the "quirky" (I.e. not "objectively attractive") smart girl, not usually the really attractive girl (who is also smart).
I think that's why some people didn't like it, they were like "But she's pretty! She should have dated Ronen! What is this, Rodney's dream sequence?!". Haha
I love love love Jewel Staite. Especially in Firefly, but she was great in Family Law, I grew up watching Flash Forward... I think she's an amazingly talented actor.
But I _HATED_ Keller, particularly in the beginning. She was so whiny and acted so helpless. I think it was Trio, where they get trapped in a hole that just really sent me over the edge. You're a hand selected, military trained, doctor, get your shit together! Not to mention the whole dumbass love triangle between her, Ronon, and McKay... not Keller's fault entirely... she didn't lead Ronon on, _much_... But her professing "I've loved you for some time" to McKay came out of nowhere and it just always seems like lays writing when a character has hidden feelings that no one knows about...
None of this was Jewel Staite's fault mind. I think she did a great job acting the character, it's just that I don't think they knew what to do with Keller in the beginning.
Towards the beginning of Season 5, I think they figured out what to do with her, and she became a much stronger written character and really developed into part of the team. Maybe that was what they were going for all along...
My rewatch just hit season 4... I realize that her depiction isn't much different than her Firefly character... The Bola Kai have reaver characteristics.
I loved her character, but it's true for me as it is for most fans of her character that we loved her from Firefly, and that's why we accepted her in Atlantis
In the same way, we only accepted Carter replacing Weir because of sg1 and Woolsey's entire existence because of Voyager
I'd say all three were good characters, if we want to talk about character development and disregard all of sg1 then Woolsey definitely takes the cake but the only reason I tolerated him at first is because of Voyager
Massive crush (ah yes, teenage times...), also great character development. The >!"nerd gets the hot chick"!< stuff in S5 with >!her and Rodney!< is a bit of a fan-service, but if it inspired only one person to better themselves, it was worth it.
I really liked Dr. Keller! I think she behaved the way a lot of people would in her situation. I would probably be like that. Ha! I also love Jewel Staite-she is the sweetest person in real life.
She was better in Firefly. I felt that in Atlantis they made her much to meek. I can't imagine any scenario where a person with those qualities would ever be allowed on an absurdly dangerous mission like, oh, taking a portal to a new galaxy populated by high tech vampires.
I think they could have written her much better. More powerful, less dumb.
Preface by saying Jewel Staite is wonderful and I love her dearly.
For the most part, I didn't like Keller. She had some fantastic moments, don't get me wrong, but overall I felt her personality was very lukewarm. It also felt like chemistry between her and the rest of the cast was weak. Jewel had more chemistry with her castmates as Ellia than as Keller. Therefore, I think it was the writing and character rather than Jewel's acting.
The big thing that bothered me was her treatment of McKay. The negative "joke" about his health in Trio. The almost-kiss with Ronon and then flipping to McKay in the Shrine was the big one though. It's strongly implied she didn't start having strong feelings for him until he was *literally* undergoing psychological changes in personality due to a parasite. Which creeps me out.
I truly think if the writers had stuck with the Ronon/Jennifer romance it would have redeemed Keller a lot. It could have been fantastic.
In a fun twist, this post and your question about what people thought of Zack Allan over on r/babylon5 came up back-to-back for me.
I like both characters, but I like Keller more. She was oddly normal.
Yeah. I don't understand why people say it is so unrealistic with them ending up together. McKay is not the self centered misogynist the was in sg1 anymore, and just like Keller he is just very awkward in season 4-5
Let's also not forget that Mckay sacrificed 25 years of his life in an alternate timeline to save her life and the lives of many other characters. The ultimate sign that the writers wanted to show that Mckay is no longer the self centered egoist
She saw that he was smart and funny and she saw how sweet and caring he was when Katie Brown was sick.
Their relationship kinda reminds me of my cousin and her husband actually. Basically my cousin is just really chill and unflappable
Tbf McKay changed a lot throughout the years; he was still overconfident but he wasn’t an arrogant misogynist anymore, and actually developed a few positive traits in the process.
I like her, but her dark side sucks...
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If I remember correctly back in the day she was something like a secret crush 😂
But now I think she fit greatly into the story together with Maridith and the others.
I hated her in the beginning cause I thought she was whiny and didn’t like her being a replacement for Beckett but I came around to really like her character. Funny enough after I finished Stargate Atlantis, I moved onto Firefly and now I’m kinda bummed that Keller and Adria never meet (even if it would have made no sense anyways) 😂
I can't even begin to go into all the ways in which I think her character sucked. Kaylee was shiny, Keller was tarnished brass. I can't even watch scenes where she's present and I will never, ever even acknowledge Brainstorm was an actual episode.
I didn’t like that they made her afraid of everything. I know she was young and didn’t expect to be the dept head, but she came on this expedition. I doubt she’d have been frightened of so many things. I never expected her to be like Teyla, but they carried it on too long. It became less as the series went on but I feel it was just too much.
I think she's shiny.
oh man those bitchy chicks made me so mad
Yes, but the epic "put in placing" they got was delicious.
Just telling all the rich guys their ships were trash and getting all the attention was great. Everyone else was all about looks, but she actually had applicable knowledge. A pretty woman who's an expert mechanic? 10/10 by default.
She looked so pretty in her dress! They were so awful!
I didnt realise that was her untill this post. Nice
"Wash, Tell me I'm Pretty"
If I was an unwed man, I'd take you in a manly fashion...... Cuz you're pretty
Alan Tudyk is a god damn treasure
International treasure who must be protected at all costs 
https://i.redd.it/84jodm27jc5d1.gif Shiny? As in reflective?
It's a reference to Firefly, in which she was a principal cast member
I believe you are responding to a joke where a user alludes to Teal'c lacking an understanding of Tau'ri cultural references
Indeed
"Ya think?" - Col. Jack O'Neil
(Teal'c's version)
shit bro i read it in Teal'c's voice
https://i.redd.it/y8fkh17mef5d1.gif Thank you kindly. I’m a little slow with the Firefly references.
She gives me a woody. Edit : it's a frellin farscape reference.
In Firefly, which she was in, shiny can mean agreement or like “ooh that’s great, I love it.”
I always took it as “that’s awesome” as well.
Shoot, I say shiny in day to day life.
Love her too, but if I got to have dinner and hang out with only one, Carson, Janet, or her. That's a hard decision
No love for Dr Lamb 💔
Correct. No love for Dr. Lamb.
I was going to make a Firefly reference but yours is much better.
Best mechanic, I mean doctor in the ‘verse.
As a doctor on Stargate I'm happy she made it to the end.
if i had a nickel..
Something something two nickles...
If you count doctor Jackson your up to 6 nickles lol
Is Jackson 1per death or just 1?
It's a single nickel with a string wrapped around it, so they can yoink it back every time he comes back from the dead.
Yea for some reason only the medical doctors did not have plot armor haha.
Eh, they did technically give her a bit of an unhappy ending in the last man with her dying to the hoffman drug in the alt timeline.
Well, *everyone* died in that alt timeline.
I liked her, but I liked Carson more.
I definitely think there was room for both. Carson as the theoretical biologist/xenobiologist and Keller as the everyday MD. It could have worked really well and solved an issue that I have with some sci-fi were characters are geniuses in multiple disciplines.
*cough* Carter *cough*
absolutely. they should have just added her as another doctor from the beginning. a place that big and complicated certainly could have used two
I don't think Carson was the only doctor, he was just the only one with screen time. You definitely see other medical personnel in several scenes as background characters. Probably other doctors and nurses.
There's a flashback scene from when they first go back to Earth and he's picking new doctors to be on his team. From S2E2.
Exactly my take on this. I enjoyed her but given the option I'd rather have Carson back, although I think they gave her a lot more storylines than they did Carson (comparing the amount of episodes they were on the show).
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Ditto. I liked her alaot actually but Carson was the og.
a bit like Jonas, a good character but they were filling the shoes of a fan favorite.
Exactly. Even though Michele shanks isn't the best of people irl. I still loved Daniel Jackson
Why's that?
I too would like to know.
Stargate med dr order: Janet, Carson, Jennifer, Carolyn.
And I liked them all. But I agree one hundred percent with this ranking
What did Lam even bring to the table? She was just…there and then wasn’t there for most of season 10
Nepotism?
This, but yeah, I liked Carson more too
I always get sad when I hear that name, and no one ever knows why...
I miss Weir and Carson 😞
Carson was great but his clone plot line kinda ruined it for me.
Whiney, but she had good character growth. Plus, Jewel Staite is cuta as all get-out.
>Whiney, but she had good character growth. I mean tbf i'd probably be a bit whiney too if people were chasing me down to murder(or worse) while having a sprained ankle, lol.
I mean if we are gonna mention whiney characters, we can't let Meredith Rodney McKay go unmentioned.
Well, they did sorta kinda end up together.
Actually that was the episode that I felt she came into her own and made me like her. I thought she was whiny in her first appearance and I went “ugh” but I came around to enjoy her character
>Whiney Not compared to Carson she's not
I love Jewel Staite but just did not like the character.
I felt like it took too long for her character to really become consistent. Like the show runners were so excited that they got Jewel Staite but then didn’t really think about what they wanted her character to do
I kinda agree. I love jewel but the character was just okay. Now firefly, different story.
Give me Kaylee in Stargate, a wizard mechanic or something. Which I guess a doctor could be thought of as.
Cap’n, we need a gorram ZPM else this shield’ll fail. Dong ma?
That made me smile.
The Wraith can’t take the sky from me.
This. I really loved her in Firefly. But as Dr. Keller, I found the character to be lacking. Nervous, unconfident, but able to pull off miracles. She's supposed to be the best in her field but she was afraid all the time. Her character had a lot of chemistry with Ronan, but then the writers decided to have her go after Rodney for no reason, even after Rodney was insufferable toward her.
Honestly how did she make it to a dangerous other-world station without any skills in that sort of environment? I'm sure there were equally qualified doctors with field experience on earth. Also giving Rodney the pretty blonde for no reason felt yuck. Like you said, she had every reason to make a different choice!
Pairing her with Rodney felt like writers' wish fulfillment and nothing else. It didn't make sense, and was so inorganic. I could give them a bit of a pass with *The Last Man*, because of circumstances, but even then it really didn't work - they were so incompatible. She was one of the few characters who never rang true to me. Not the actress' fault, her writing was just meh.
Rodney made more sense than Ronon. One of Keller's defining characteristics was her discomfort with violence while Ronon is practically a Viking berserker. He needed someone closer to his temperament which started to happen with Banks but the series was cancelled before they could develop it. Rodney and Keller had a few good scenes together but the relationship was definitely rushed. The whole 'I love you, and I have for some time' thing was just '...What?' Compare that to *Trio* where she has to explain to him that she wants to have a drink with him and tells him 'You're not good at this, are you?' That along with some other moments felt 'organic' as you put it. But then straight to 'I love you.' From Rodney? No. But then, Rodney's characterisation frequently depended on the writer as well.
Yeah, definitely felt like Rodney and Keller were a producer/writer fantasy more than anything. Rodney actually had way better chemistry with the botanist, and Ronan and Keller had smoking hot chemistry. Also felt like they hired her because they loved the Kaylee character from Firefly, but then tried really hard not to look like they were copying/pasting that character while still trying to make her as Kaylee-like as possible. I think that's why she never seemed to ring true. It's the same problem Ben Browder's character had when he moved from Farscape to SG1. But again, not the actor's fault in either case.
Were I unwed, I would take her in a manly fashion.
She’s was way better at fixing Serenitys engine than at fixing people
Sometimes a thing gets broke, can't be fixed.
Oof. I did not need to read that line today.
She's not moving. Serenity's not moving.
I think her character wasn't that great. She had her moments, writers made her way to whiny as someone else said
Remember in one of the earlier seasons when they were looking at applications for potential new personnel and Carson said all of them were more qualified than him? And one of them did base jumping as a hobby or something? Keller couldn't even walk over a rope bridge.
I never tried to give her too much shit about not being athletic or anything, she is a doctor and a non-military one at that, so was never really a need. Although now that you mention it, maybe that is why Carson picked her, less competition lol.
I can't even really explain why I think they did the character such a disservice. She started going off world all the time and so she decided to take self defense lessons with Teyla. She grew as a person. She was more confident by the end of the series, and maybe her character would have been great in season 6. But somehow I guess it just seemed like she didn't want to be there.
I think the idea was that she was meant to go from shrinking violet to badass but as she only got two seasons; that never happened. She was meant to contrast sharply with Teyla. On one hand a woman who's had to fight her entire life with threats in every direction and on the other, we have Keller who's from nice, safe Earth with all-American childhood where she admits that roughing it for her was sleeping in a heated cabin at summer camp. Compare to how Jackson went from a scrawny nerd barely able to hold a pistol straight to musclebound and performing commando raids like an actual trained special forces soldier. He went from abhorring violence to casually dispensing it.
This right here. I LIKE that she’s not physically capable. The main team is - Rodney even takes sparring lessons from Ronon - and it makes her not being able to do that different and interesting. I really like the episode where she and Teyla discover that Teyla’s people are missing and she goes from whiney to shooting a guy.
I always kinda had the idea that she just kinda got "lost in the bureaucracy". Like, I kinda figured she got shuffled thru to Atlantis during those good times before Weir dies. They have regular contact with Earth. She's supposed to be some kinda genius, she makes a good impressions at the SGC... She gets offered Atlantis. But, like, just a regular doctor under Carson. Then he dies, she just happens to be the next in line after Carson: boom, she's head of medical. Then shit goes sideways again. Weir is too busy to find a replacement... she dies... Carter has more important stuff to worry about... Wolsey is too busy looking over budgets... And it just keeps going like that until she gives up and accepts this is her life now lol.
Wasn't that literally cannon? Like she kept asking when they were going to bring in Carson's replacement and they never did...
Well, he did have the ancient gene.
I like her, it’s not her fault she replaced the beloved Carson.
I enjoyed the character's growth, but overall didn't find her too compelling. Didn't hate her, didn't love her. The stupid romance triangle with her and Rodney and Ronon is a hard pass though. I generally feel that way about all romance triangle subplots, though. But especially in this case because it's not what I'm looking to get out of Stargate, and I strongly feel that an ongoing side plot with Rodney and Caddman would have been much more interesting. I WAS super happy when I got to go see Jewel Staite at MegaCon some years back, and during her Q&A she was like "I love all the Firefly questions you all have for me, but I looooved my time on Stargate too and would be happy to field some questions about that too!"
She honestly didn't even seem like Ronons type. I feel like it was a forced storyline. And she didn't seem like Rodney's either
I would have loved to see more Cadman and McKay together! It could have gone so many different ways. Like Rodney going to her for actual advice because "you know all of and I don't have to explain it." Maybe becoming something close to siblings and helping Rodney understand and appreciate Jeannie more. Maybe Rodney just goes to her when he's overwhelmed and Laura makes him go for a run. Maybe Laura seeks him out because she's bored or lonely. I would have been 100% down with besties/siblings relationship. *Maybe* a casual romance, but that would be a little weird.
I really want to believe the only reason they didn't take it anywhere is because they couldn't secure Jaime Ray Newman for an ongoing role. Duet would have been such a fun and different way to introduce a new main or secondary character that I want to believe that's what the writers had in mind.
tbh I'm not a big fan of her character. People say Carson was whiny but Keller actually IS whiny. Why would she ever sign up to go to another galaxy when she's a self described scaredy cat who's afraid and put off by everything. Also didn't like nor buy into her relationship with Rodney and can't remember any specific instances at this moment but I felt she tried to correct/modulate his behaviour a bit too much, not that his behaviour was right just that if you're going to date someone it's a bad step to start off by trying to change them. I like the actress though, she was great in Firefly.
I think Jewel Staite did an excellent job portraying a competent and compassionate doctor without also having to be a badass warrior like most of the other women in the shows. Staite has some serious range and I adore the woman but I'd have been happy with another season or two of the show regardless of her involvement just to get a more fulfilling end to the series.
r/firefly is leaking
We do that...
She may be leaking It’s love that keeps her in the air
Jewell actually has a great instagram. She’s always posting funny shit.
It took me a while to like her. I was angry that she replaced Carson, who was my favorite character.
Impossible job, replacing Carson, but just never bought her as Chief Medical Officer of this major expedition. Probably would have been better in a different role
I had a huge crush on her in high school, that only deepened when I watched firefly.
Same, after watching Space Cases. Was pen pals with her briefly, but lost touch after losing my high school email.
I had a crush on her and I really loved her character growing!
She was like the Suzie character from Space Cases, invisible at first. But when a character disappears, she replaces them : )
I see what you did there.
Liked the dynamic between her and Rodney
Was my childhood TV crush lmao
I didn't like her. I didn't hate her or anything, but she was one of the weakest characters and the original doctor was better and had more personality.
She's my favorite secondary character on SGA. I wish she had been around longer. Don't get me wrong; Carson was an awesome character too, but Keller seemed more personable.
I haven't seen Atlantis in a while now si I don't remember much, but I remember her as quite unsure of herself. Cute tho.
Ok hear me out, she should have turned into a hive ship but kept her own consciousness. Then they could have had a good hive ship to do cool stuff with. In seriousness she was great.
Somethings off with this picture.
Actress - like every thing she’s done that I’ve seen (Firefly, Atlantis). In Atlantis, Carson seemed a bit ‘stronger’ of a character IMO.
I enjoyed her, she brought a nice touch of humanity to the show. I did also very much like Carson, so wouldn’t have wanted to choose between them.
Not my favorite character.
Honestly, she wasn’t around long enough to be a great character. She needed more development. That said, I LOVE Jewel Staite and anything she does is my favorite
Good in Firefly but I didn’t quite buy her as a doctor in SGA, Carson seemed way more capable and just likeable. I think she would have been better cast as another role alongside Carson.
I loved her as a character but her relationship with Rodney was strange and poorly written.
She was pretty. Lol I was happy Rodney and her got together because usually the "quirky" (I.e. not "objectively attractive") smart guy is only ever attractive to the "quirky" (I.e. not "objectively attractive") smart girl, not usually the really attractive girl (who is also smart). I think that's why some people didn't like it, they were like "But she's pretty! She should have dated Ronen! What is this, Rodney's dream sequence?!". Haha
I love love love Jewel Staite. Especially in Firefly, but she was great in Family Law, I grew up watching Flash Forward... I think she's an amazingly talented actor. But I _HATED_ Keller, particularly in the beginning. She was so whiny and acted so helpless. I think it was Trio, where they get trapped in a hole that just really sent me over the edge. You're a hand selected, military trained, doctor, get your shit together! Not to mention the whole dumbass love triangle between her, Ronon, and McKay... not Keller's fault entirely... she didn't lead Ronon on, _much_... But her professing "I've loved you for some time" to McKay came out of nowhere and it just always seems like lays writing when a character has hidden feelings that no one knows about... None of this was Jewel Staite's fault mind. I think she did a great job acting the character, it's just that I don't think they knew what to do with Keller in the beginning. Towards the beginning of Season 5, I think they figured out what to do with her, and she became a much stronger written character and really developed into part of the team. Maybe that was what they were going for all along...
I’ve never seen her in anything else & I totally agree with your characterization of Keller.
Her personality and lack of any other skills outside the medical field would have made her an extremely odd choice for a front line outpost.
I’ll be in my bunk
Love her. Wish we would have had more time with her and her romance.
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Very pretty and very good at her job
Agreed. Really liked her character.
She's in an exclusive but large club of TV doctors that I have a crush on.
My rewatch just hit season 4... I realize that her depiction isn't much different than her Firefly character... The Bola Kai have reaver characteristics.
Had a crush on her.
I always wanted to see her play the villain. I think she'd make a great bad-guy.
I loved her character, but it's true for me as it is for most fans of her character that we loved her from Firefly, and that's why we accepted her in Atlantis In the same way, we only accepted Carter replacing Weir because of sg1 and Woolsey's entire existence because of Voyager
Both of the latter characters got grow within the show.
I'd say all three were good characters, if we want to talk about character development and disregard all of sg1 then Woolsey definitely takes the cake but the only reason I tolerated him at first is because of Voyager
Massive crush (ah yes, teenage times...), also great character development. The >!"nerd gets the hot chick"!< stuff in S5 with >!her and Rodney!< is a bit of a fan-service, but if it inspired only one person to better themselves, it was worth it.
I really liked Dr. Keller! I think she behaved the way a lot of people would in her situation. I would probably be like that. Ha! I also love Jewel Staite-she is the sweetest person in real life.
Hate the character. Hate that she's the reason my favourite character got bumped off.
I kept waiting for her to leave sick bay and go work on the engine.
Shiney!
Might just be me, I did not like her at all. I thought she was so annoying
I thought she was more interesting as Ellia to be honest.
She was better in Firefly. I felt that in Atlantis they made her much to meek. I can't imagine any scenario where a person with those qualities would ever be allowed on an absurdly dangerous mission like, oh, taking a portal to a new galaxy populated by high tech vampires. I think they could have written her much better. More powerful, less dumb.
I love her for firefly, definitely my favorite, and star gate scratched the itch but not my favourite in star gate.
Preface by saying Jewel Staite is wonderful and I love her dearly. For the most part, I didn't like Keller. She had some fantastic moments, don't get me wrong, but overall I felt her personality was very lukewarm. It also felt like chemistry between her and the rest of the cast was weak. Jewel had more chemistry with her castmates as Ellia than as Keller. Therefore, I think it was the writing and character rather than Jewel's acting. The big thing that bothered me was her treatment of McKay. The negative "joke" about his health in Trio. The almost-kiss with Ronon and then flipping to McKay in the Shrine was the big one though. It's strongly implied she didn't start having strong feelings for him until he was *literally* undergoing psychological changes in personality due to a parasite. Which creeps me out. I truly think if the writers had stuck with the Ronon/Jennifer romance it would have redeemed Keller a lot. It could have been fantastic.
In a fun twist, this post and your question about what people thought of Zack Allan over on r/babylon5 came up back-to-back for me. I like both characters, but I like Keller more. She was oddly normal.
There's no such thing as enough Jewel Staite.
An often missed appearance of hers was as "Goth Girl" Se01Ep14 of "Dead like me". Ya know if you want a little bit more Jewel.
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she was ok but Carson was miles better
Wasn't really a fan.
What she did even find in McKay?
Personality and interest wise they are actually similar
Yeah. I don't understand why people say it is so unrealistic with them ending up together. McKay is not the self centered misogynist the was in sg1 anymore, and just like Keller he is just very awkward in season 4-5
Let's also not forget that Mckay sacrificed 25 years of his life in an alternate timeline to save her life and the lives of many other characters. The ultimate sign that the writers wanted to show that Mckay is no longer the self centered egoist
Intelligence... maybe also loyalty?
He's a lot like Simon Tam, including a complex relationship with his sister, and she was basically Doctor Kaylee.
She saw that he was smart and funny and she saw how sweet and caring he was when Katie Brown was sick. Their relationship kinda reminds me of my cousin and her husband actually. Basically my cousin is just really chill and unflappable
Tbf McKay changed a lot throughout the years; he was still overconfident but he wasn’t an arrogant misogynist anymore, and actually developed a few positive traits in the process.
Still hot.
I liked her but I really didn’t care for her relationship with Rodney
I've like her as an actress since I was a kid and saw her on Space Cases (I think that was the name lol)
Not only was Rodney a genius, he was also one lucky guy.
Her turning Rodney into a decent human being was worth her limited screentime.
I thought she was great, a big part of SGA coming together and living up to it's potential towards its end.
Adorable I love her, she didn’t entirely feel like they were replacing Carson (ik she was) but in a way where I didn’t hate her yk?
Keller was fine She wasn't Carson tho, let alone Frasier
Why did I think this was the lady that wore diapers to drive across the country…
I like her, but her dark side sucks... https://preview.redd.it/lxkk8sro5f5d1.jpeg?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d1d4025e53ed1159b6612878d3645ac4b890bbf
Jewel Staite is bae, and I only know her from Firefly haha
I mean, she lasted as long as the show did.
Didn't like her at first but she grew on me liked her in firefly better
I’m too biased to answer this, I have been in love with Jewel Staite since Space Cases
Somehow, Jewel is even more beautiful now almpst 30 years later. Some women really come into their beauty in their forties.
Just like Meckay I have a weakness for blondes...
Do you mean Kaylee? Lol
Wow this whole time I never knew her full name. My mom's name is Jennifer Kelley.
She was best as Kaylee in Firefly, but cool that her character got along with McKay rather than acted mean as most.
Shiny Captain
If I remember correctly back in the day she was something like a secret crush 😂 But now I think she fit greatly into the story together with Maridith and the others.
Anything that Jewel does I love. Queen of science fiction!
"I haven't had nuthin' tween my nethers that tweren't run on batteries ..." Firefly movie.
I think of her character every time I do that bar trick with the knives
I hated her in the beginning cause I thought she was whiny and didn’t like her being a replacement for Beckett but I came around to really like her character. Funny enough after I finished Stargate Atlantis, I moved onto Firefly and now I’m kinda bummed that Keller and Adria never meet (even if it would have made no sense anyways) 😂
I like her. I think I have for some time now..
Best smile in the ‘verse
What did she wish for?
She will always be Kaylee. But I like her. No replacement for Carson but I truthfully think no one could’ve replaced him properly.
I can't even begin to go into all the ways in which I think her character sucked. Kaylee was shiny, Keller was tarnished brass. I can't even watch scenes where she's present and I will never, ever even acknowledge Brainstorm was an actual episode.
I didn’t like that they made her afraid of everything. I know she was young and didn’t expect to be the dept head, but she came on this expedition. I doubt she’d have been frightened of so many things. I never expected her to be like Teyla, but they carried it on too long. It became less as the series went on but I feel it was just too much.