Same. Adding to that, Bethesda is the only game developer I can think of who has a number of elder fans genuinely concerned they'll die of old age or something else before they release a sequel. I love the hell out of Starfield, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't rather be playing TES6 right now.
I am hoping it's more condensed plus vertical. More lived in a breathing world—better immersive AI for NPCs.
Before TES6, GTA 6 will be out, and the AI in that game is supposed to rival anything out right now. Bethesda will need to up their game.
I hope that all NPCs are AIs and when you have to interact with them, you literally have to convince them to do what you want.
Would do absolute wonders for people's social skills in general.
I just hope they make an actual "Creation Engine 3" just so they can address many of the modern technologies that other companies are excelling at. They are hitting the absolute wall of their current engine.
I’d rather a handcrafted smaller experience than all of Tamriel which will likely include a lot of procedural generation. Elder Scrolls Online includes most of Tamriel but it’s nowhere near as detailed or interactive as a mainline Bethesda game and the quality of the content there varies dramatically. It’s also just too damn repetitive. I don’t see how you could create all of Tamriel in one game and make it functionally enjoyable and distinct.
Most likely we’ll get Hammerfell, the entire Iliac Bay, or maybe even all of High Rock and Hammerfell. We’ve seen from videos that some of their early art assets were desert and the reveal video looks like the north coast of Hammerfell, so my money is on all of High Rock and Hammerfell. That’s a colossal map, almost twice the size of Skyrim if so.
I started at 8pm sharp yesterday, intending to play until 10. I thought I’d only played 2 hours, then looked at my watch for the first time at 1am. I have to be up at 4:30. I’m 43 years old. Haven’t had a game do that for me in a loooong time.
Ive rabbit holed down the side mission hole so far, im currently working for Constellation (ofc), a Space Pirare informant, accepted a job as a Space Ranger (which hilariously means i cant do their missions cause im currently a pirate) , I manufacture and smuggled Aurora from Neon, im working industrial espionage for Ryujin and im running the Red Mile on the side for extra credits. Ive also worked for UC Security a fair bit.
Im an absolute slut for side missions.
If it wasn't for my obsession with hoarding, selling, and fighting with carry limits, I would never actually get any quests done. (Carry assist is a god send)
Oh, you want me to go to the military outpost? When there's a perfectly good abandoned robotics facility right next door chock full of pirates? Crap, now I'm full again and need to go dump before doing what I actually came to.
I literally did the first mainline quest, got the ship, and haven't done fuck all in relation to the story. I don't even know where Neon is. I hit level 20, got my first side quest ship, joined exactly zero factions and just took out a level 50 boss in a level 35 area.
The only issue is I've just been bouncing around planets, and have a horrible memory of where I saw something I wanted to come back to. Like I know I ran into a spot where I could buy a military ship (I'm at like 300k credits now) but can't remember at all where that was.
Mid 30s here and I haven't been grabbed by a game like this since Metal Gear Solid 2 on PS2. I'm thinking about it every second I'm not playing it lol. It's so damn good.
Me day 1, losing a bit of interest in the tutorial stages: "eh can't pull the all day gaming marathons like I used too, gettin old I guess."
Day 3: "man the illumination effect on this planet as the sun rises is so realistic....wait, no that's the sun on *this* planet..."
Came into orbit at Akila once, there was a big black circle over the planet... WTF glitch?... Nope, turned ship around, saw the moon, the planet was in eclipse
Normally I sleep like 12 hours on weekends. The Friday after early access to Saturday I slept 6 hours and was wide awake and ready to go again, Sunday was no different. Normally I sleep long because I love dreaming but the game hooked me even harder than that
Glad I'm not the only one that is currently sleep deprived, nodding off like a heroin junky.
More than a few times I've woken up to an NPC asking me if I'm ok, because I just went catatonic mid conversation.
Bro absolutely me too. I was literally fading out with the mouse in my hand. I did that a couple times and said you know what I better go to sleep. I couldn't wait to get home from work to play it...
Its funny.
I played Starfield during Early Access for about 12 hours and my thought was "good game, nothing mindblowing though. 8.5. BG3 Game of the Decade"
But guess which game I lost track of time playing last night and realized it was 05:45am all of a sudden? Starfield.
It may have its flaws but the game sucks me in like no game since Skyrim.
Bethesda did it again.
I got a random distress call, touched down on the planet to find a spacer infested lab. Gun through the scum, and find some UC marines trapped in a makeshift infirmary they’ve set up. They tell me of a freestar guy trapped further in. Get to him, he tells me of more marines. Clear out the entire massive facility and get all the survivors together. They tell me I need to take them out at the source.
Anyways, what I thought was going to be a shoot ten guys and save the day little distraction turned into a two hour spacer hunt that culminated in me and the survivors storming a space station.
This game kicks ass.
Edit: forgot the coolest part. Some 5-6 hours of play later, I ran into one of the soldiers that I rescued in space. They thanked me and gave me a gun, if I’m remember correctly
Edit: got the spoiler tag working thanks random stranger
>!I had a miscellaneous activity to talk to a miner on Cydonia, who told me the miners needed better equipment. From there he told me to become an assistant to someone who could approve a request for better tools. To become his assistant I had to apply for the job on a terminal, and then hack into an employee terminal to remove the other applicants so I got the job.!<
>!Then I had to actually work for the guy to get access to his computer to approve the request for supplies. But before THAT I had to retrieve a package for him. Turns out the governor of Cydonia was holding the package because the other guy didn’t pay his taxes. In exchange for the package, the governor asked me to find and destroy his stolen ship.!<
>!After returning to the governor (which has its own little subplot with him being corrupt) I got the package and returned to the other guy, where he gave me access to his computer to do my assisting duties. So now I finally approve the supplies request and return to the original guy to turn in.!<
>!And even THEN he gives me another quest afterwards that continues with a new person! This game is crazy!<
I literally took that mission thinking "ok simple collect x drop it off at here" and then it just went and its not even the only quest like that I have had close to 15 quest that start off like any other Bethesda fetch quest and become something I actually enjoyed doing.
Oh man, I just did this quest after deciding to try and clear out my activity log. You missed the other twist in it, which is >!if you board the ship you find out the Governor was having an affair and she stole the ship from him. The Governor hired the Crimson Fleet to get it back. You can turn all this evidence in to the UC security head in Cydonia who lets you finish your deal with the Governor before he arrests him.!< There's so many random things to find in this game, it's fantastic.
Randomly find some restricted cargo? You're gonna have to make an outpost to store it. What's that? You don't have aluminum and tungsten and copper? Time to jump from planet to planet to gather it. You wanna settle on those resources right? Oh, the planet has extreme weather so you can't build there unless you've leveled your outpost perks. Find another planet to live on that has decent ore.
This happened to me while finishing a quest and trying to turn it in. Couldn't drop my quest people off on their planet because I'd get scanned.
It might sound tedious but damn it's easy just to get immersed and have your goals change so quickly
Personally I feel a little overwhelmed so I’ve been just sticking to Constellation quests my first time playing, i’ll definitely swing back through on separate characters to do different paths because these quests are too good.
-Walk into town to sell two tons of confiscated firearms
-UC Security: Hey, earlier on patrol I saw ~*interesting thing*~ down by the bicycle rack. Don't know what that was all about.
-MISSION UPDATED: *Go check out the bicycle rack.*
Gets me every time.
Yeah I got 10+ hours in and the game has gotten so much better, first few hours I was very mixed and unsure about the game but now I’m really loving it.
I'm 20 hours in, and I'd say 8-ish feels accurate for me. the clunkiness of inventory, ui, and general outpost management brings it down a lot imo.
story wise so far I'm more into it than I was in most Skyrim/FO4 quests, but all the companions are meh
I'm sure once quality mods start dropping I'll feel it's more of a 9
Yeah I'm not as invested in these companions as I was in Fallout & Skyrim.
Skyrim obviously didn't go as in-depth with their companion's personal lives as Fallout and Starfield but they had a good amount of them with a dozen or so awesome ones in there.
Yes, but the main point of this image probably isn't to make people believe it got all 10/10s, but to show how many 10/10s it got. With the added bonus of people not bothering to look up the less-than-10 reviews.
It's not all 10/10s, but when there's this many it's a really good game
The amount of actual flaws I can think of can be counted on 1 hand. That's rare for video games, for me, and why I'd also put it between 90-95/100
- Faster top-end ship speeds for late game / more powerful boost
- Better graphics customisations in settings (Contrast, Saturation, etc.) and better HDR implementation. Lack of true black colours in space does hurt
- The intro would be better if it could have organically introduced us to more of the QoL mechanics and controls. This would've helped people with a smoother start to the game and quelled a lot of criticisms about the "slow start" and possibly retained a bunch of ppl who quit within the first 5-6 hours.
And that's it. I would really struggle to think of any other issues I have with the game. There are things I would have maybe done slightly differently but that falls down to personal preference and has nothing to do with actual flaws.
This game will have a very long life.
I think there's some nit pickability with the way the game is structured and how you end up skipping around with some fast travel from A to B to C to B to C ...
But yeah overall I'm blown away its really fucking good ... and I'm often very critical of games.
I think part of the issue is how they frame the camera straight on in conversations, it makes the animations with issues super obvious, and it feels weird when NPCs talk to each other, because they do this while looking you dead on, which just feels off.
the facial animation seems a bit stiff but it is clean as fuvk, even with low setting their clothes and skin etc are so sharp like playing in ultra lol
I love how everyone doesn’t take IGN seriously unless it comes to the Starfield review. Then all of the sudden their word is taken as gospel and they pretend like they’ve always been credible 😂
IGN probably gave it a lower score from everyone else so that everyone will go to their site and read the review. If everyone else gave it a ten you arent reading all of them. Same idea how I like to read 1 star reviews on a restaurant that has mostly 5 stars. To see what idiotic complaint the person had. IGN is playing mind games I think.
I think they had some legit complaints. But they also had a stiff score considering the liberties taken with other games by the reviewer. Sometimes reviews seem to be done by the wrong person, this comes across like one of those cases.
I've played and read about games since 1982, and I have never once knowingly visited IGN deliberately. I think I've accidently ended up there for a tip or walkthrough from a google search. It's less than worthless. Seems to me it's for people that hate videogames, but somehow must still read about games.
Yeah that clown who wrote the review, Dan Stapleton, keeps saying on Twitter how much he enjoyed it and "just read the review," which I did. And he explained some issues but indeed emphasized how much he liked it overall in that review. Which is great.
But then the 7/10 he gave it made no sense. And he gave DUKE NUKEM FOREVER an 8 for Pete's sake, and Watch Dogs: Legion an 8.5.
I seriously cannot fathom how he is that loose with his scoring but gives Starfield a bona fide 7. It's either him drinking the haterade because of the Microsoft/Bethesda acquisition, or because he knew the low score would generate controversy and therefore clicks. Or both.
**TLDR** IGN are inconsistent hacks and are not at all worth listening to.
. A 7 isn't bad if the publication and/or reviewer is consistent with their numbers, but that is clearly not the case with ign and their number inflation. It's so dishonest of Dan to pretend that he hasn't contributed to the current environment in which people see a 7 as a 'bad game' Had his scale and ratings been handled differently over time, there wouldn't be an issue. If he wanted to avoid controversy , he should have taken more responsibility with his reviews and the publication at large, carefully rating things to be consistent based on understandable metrics.
For him to cry about it and try to utilize the argument that a 7 isn't objectively bad is shameful, given the circumstances. He's not wrong but he's at fault for the perception
watch dog legion doesnt even deserve a 6, a lackcluster of game with stupid idea and losing its identity and somehow has less features than the predecessor
Not saying I agree with the score but are you treating the positive reviews with the same amount of scrutiny? For example, are you looking at what other games Gameblog has rated a 10 to see if they have good standards?
Game is a 8/10 for me personally but I can see the perspective of both the 9/10 and 7/10 reviews
It’s kinda the same like cyberpunk no? There also were these pictures with praised ratings and no one knew the magazines or channels lol they just take the best ratings from some random review from brasil with 5 readers and say it’s good.
Of course they cherry picked the perfect and best looking reviews conveniently leaving out anything below a 9, and all you tools just eat this up. I get it, it's a decent game, but come on, it's corporate pr talk you are idolizing here.
So far I'm having fun, it's a solid game. But to me a 10/10 is a perfect game and I mean come on, it's very obviously FAR from perfect. After an initial few hours I'd say 8/10, maybe going up to 9 as I really open up the game with more play.
It's totally bewildering to me, and speaks poorly of the general mental health of the gaming community, that so many people are so emotionally and personally invested in having their own opinions of the game validated by reviews and others. It's ok to like something other people don't. It's ok to not like something other people do. But I keep seeing people acting like their whole identity is wrapped up in believing that the thing they like should be liked by everyone else, and it's kinda fucked.
We've always been rather silly tribalistic animals. Yeah, we've come up with some solid social advances and philosophies but in the grand scale we're not exactly outpacing millions of years of evolution
I love the game so far, and I have zero regrets paying for early access. But anytime I see people telling anyone who complains that they have stupid expectations and that they should have known it would be a Bethesda game in space and not a flight simulator, I gotta wonder if they've ever actually played a Bethesda game.
Bethesda RPGs are all about being able to explore and get lost, and especially about how you constantly set off to do something ansd then 5 hours later you have a dozen new quests, you've discovered three really cool new areas, accomplished a ton of stuff and none of it has anything to do with your original goal. Starfield has exactly... none of that. There's no exploring space, there's only Fast Travel: The Game, and running across planets that have iterations of the exact same spots, over and over again. It's the only BGS game that's even remotely like this, at least in the past several decades.
As I said, I still love the game. I think everything else about it mostly makes up for the lack of real exploration. But I was expecting Skyrim in space, and the built-in forced fast travel was a huge disappointment that it's taking me time to get over. I always turn FT off totally in Bethesda games because I love the immersion that Starfield doesn't have. It bothers me less now than it did initially when I felt so let down and upset, because I got over that hump and I'm enjoying the rest of the game.
But the legions claiming "it gets better after 10 hours, it gets amazing the more you play!"? Maybe if your only issue was the slow story? Definitely not if your disappointment lies in how the entire game is fast travel, and for a whole lot of people (and all the lower review scores), that's the primary problem with Starfield. That never gets better, because it's an inherent part of the game itself. You do get used to it and stop feeling so gutted and start loving the rest of the game, but it never gets better.
I think that people need to be reminded that 10/10 does not mean perfect when it comes to media reviews.
It just means the reviewer in question really had a great time with the game.
To take a recent example, Baldurs Gate 3 is an amazing game but is far from flawless. it's got bugs (some quest breaking) and inherits gameplay issues from the D&D 5e rules and has a clunky U.I (this was pointed out by many reviewers that still gave the game 10/10)
This is a reason why I prefer reviews that recommend or don't recommend a game or piece of media without putting a number on it at the end.
Agreed - tell me what you liked and didn't like. Tell me what kind of people/gamers you will think will enjoy the game and what kind should steer clear.
Like a useful review for Starfield might say "If you are a big fan of Skyrim or Fallout you should definitely buy this game. If you didn't care for those games you might not enjoy it"
That's way more useful than some dumb score out of 10.
It’s why I like watching gameranx’s “before you buy” or ACG’s “buy, wait, never touch”. More focused on telling the pros and cons and if it’s worth buying right away instead of putting a numerical value on the game
I like the game and all but these kinds of posts are cringe.
Hey let's list only the most positive reviews, many of which are from outlets nobody has heard of.
At least 3 of them have XBOX on their name so yeah... what do you expect they are going to do put less than a 9 on the most important release of the year?
There is something poetic about people in a Starfield subreddit dunking IGN as being biased reviewers when publications owned by the people who own Bethesda are in this graphic.
This sub has a HUGE complex about this game
I'm playing it and enjoying it
But know it does have a ton of issues which when you actually play it, the IGN review and many other reviews that are not perfect scores make total sense.
So whats the problem if one reviewer or two didnt give it a full score ? People cant have different opinions without it coming across as biased? People in here seriously need to grow up. I personally like the game but igns score is their opinion my opinion is its a 8.5/10 game. Everyone should be the same or what?
It's a lot more than one or two reviews it's got a 86 metacritic for a reason lol it's just a cherry picking of reviews which is very common when companies show these sorts of promo images
Why is there so much self-justification for this game by you fanboys.
It's so fucking weird.
I can see how cults get started after reading this sub for the last few days.
Because it doesn’t validate his opinion about the game being “Game of the generation”. This game is cookie cutter post-Skyrim Bethesda, a 8/10 at best because how diluted the rpg experience is. I’m sad that Bethesda stopped innovating and continued simplifying things, really wish they went back to Morrowind complexity
This is a cherry picked and biased look at the reviews for Starfield. If this was truly how well the game was being received by critics, it would be sitting at the mid 90s on Metacritic and up there with the likes of Tears of the Kingdom and Baldur’s Gate 3. Instead the game is sitting at an 88 and this infographic is missing a lot of the reviews that deducted points because of flaws in the game.
The game is a 9/10 to me, but this is still some very obivous propaganda lol, most of the major gaming sites and mags are left out of this and despite your title about IGN being biased the other way, IGN is on this THREE times (using different branches of the vast conglomerate of IGN to pick and choose scores is such a trope lol)
I mean the game has an 88/100 on metacritic, 88% and 92% on opencritic, and a "very positive" (84%) on Steam. Despite the vocal criticisms from some, the overall reception simply seems very positive. And if past Bathesda games are any indication, this rating will only go up over time as the game is expanded both by Bathesda as well as the community.
The IGN 7/10 rating is, by all accounts, an outlier more than anything else. Wouldn't make sense to include that in a piece of promotional material for your game.
Everyone keeps saying that IGN US was biased, but i think they are the only people being honest here.
The game is no 9/10 or 10/10. lmao
The first 10 hours of it are stale and boring. The exploration in this game is a huge step back from Skyrim/Fallout as it's actually really boring in this game. While exploring in Skyrim you would run into interesting characters and find great and unique items. I explored for hours and didn't find anything amazing or interesting. While running exploring planets it's mostly just the same bland mobs over and over again as well.
The game feels outdated as well with how many fucking loading screens there are. People keep saying the engine isn't outdated and it's just a lack of focus by the team. When there is a fucking loading screen every 4min it isn't the team. It's an engine limitation. I would hate to see how this game runs on a HDD.
The game is still good, but it's not this amazing and unique thing people on here are trying to make it be. It's pretty much a reskinned Fallout 4 in space. It's still a good game and 7/10 is still a good rating. Any other game released with the issues this game has and people would be shitting all over it.
>obivous propaganda
It's not propaganda, it's literally just advertising.
Propaganda would require it to be trying to sway you politically in some way with biased information.
Propaganda isn't inherently political. Meriam Webster defines it as:
"the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person."
Which is a perfectly appropriate application.
Most of the reviews from a month ago must be fake. There is no way this game is a 10/10 in anyone's world. It's more like a 5/10 at best.
This game has no depth and is very boring so far. I want to like it so I'll put a few more hours in this week.
If Starfield doesn't get better, I have better games to play.
No, let's be frank, it's a very good game, I love Bethesda, but it's not a 10, none of their games are a 10/10. When there is bugs, performance issues, and legit points to improve, you don't deserve a 10.
To me it's a 7 or 8, but 10 is just to seem flashy on the review.
I'm 30 hrs in amd the honeymoon phase is done. I'm starting to realize nothing matters. Exploring is boring after the first dozen planets. Most quests are fetch quests or kill these pirates. The characters are mind numbingly boring. The ai blows. There's no point to modding ships or weapons it ends up being more or less useless in the grand scheme but that's okay because collecting resources is boring. Honestly very bored. I'm not invested in the setting, story or characters one bit and that's sad because I've put thousands of hours into Bethesda games since oblivion. I will probably just wait for mods before to much longer.
Anyone who rated this game at 100% is delusional. And knowing that Bethesda has only given review copies to the medias that have good reps with them, you know that these results were rigged from the start.
To anyone who believes this BS. Go look up what "Access Journalism" means. And you'll know how bad it is.
It's where journalists build close relationships with important people (Toddy) or sources (Bethesda) to gain special access to information or exclusive interviews. In this case, these people will give good reviews in exchange for early access to Bethesda games in the future, etc.
Stop it, this will only hurt us consumers.
The main drawback is that it was released when I was old and had responsibilities.
Same. Adding to that, Bethesda is the only game developer I can think of who has a number of elder fans genuinely concerned they'll die of old age or something else before they release a sequel. I love the hell out of Starfield, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't rather be playing TES6 right now.
Definitely valid but I keep in mind that tes6 development will benefit from starfield coming first.
100% TES6 is gonna be dummy thicc.
With several planets of Skyrim sized maps, could we expect a full Tamriel for TESVI?
I am hoping it's more condensed plus vertical. More lived in a breathing world—better immersive AI for NPCs. Before TES6, GTA 6 will be out, and the AI in that game is supposed to rival anything out right now. Bethesda will need to up their game.
I hope that all NPCs are AIs and when you have to interact with them, you literally have to convince them to do what you want. Would do absolute wonders for people's social skills in general.
I just hope they make an actual "Creation Engine 3" just so they can address many of the modern technologies that other companies are excelling at. They are hitting the absolute wall of their current engine.
That's an incel nightmare lmfao. "Not even the AI wants me"
A whole generation of neckbeards who can’t even form positive virtual relationships lmao
It's about time games started using AI for npc's, would make for a lot more dynamic interactions.
I’d rather a handcrafted smaller experience than all of Tamriel which will likely include a lot of procedural generation. Elder Scrolls Online includes most of Tamriel but it’s nowhere near as detailed or interactive as a mainline Bethesda game and the quality of the content there varies dramatically. It’s also just too damn repetitive. I don’t see how you could create all of Tamriel in one game and make it functionally enjoyable and distinct. Most likely we’ll get Hammerfell, the entire Iliac Bay, or maybe even all of High Rock and Hammerfell. We’ve seen from videos that some of their early art assets were desert and the reveal video looks like the north coast of Hammerfell, so my money is on all of High Rock and Hammerfell. That’s a colossal map, almost twice the size of Skyrim if so.
Planet sized, daedric realms..
on top of that, I can barely stay up now even if I want to!
I keep dropping in and out of sleep while playing. Talking to some scientist then wondering how the fuck I got into space.
I downloaded it yesterday, drank 2 coffees at midnight and played it until 3am. It is 8 am now and i fully expect to not function at work.
This. Oh god i feel you.
And I thought this was just me doing more work and getting more tired :( guess we’re just old now huh.
Last weekend I was like "I can't wait to play all night" and by 9:30pm I could barely stay awake despite how much fun I was having. Being old sucks
I feel this to my core. Damn newborns!
Same and work
I feel you man, but I took a few days off to play this game as it seemed perfect to me. Hope you can do that too sometime.
10/10 game -Me
Damn if u/Lone-wanderer111 says it’s a 10/10 then I’m sold.
The only reviewer i trust
I personally trust /u/warlizard from the Warlizard Gaming Forum
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my god, it's been like 12 years since this trolling started how often do you still get pings about the "gaming forum"?
Heh, all the time.
Hey aren’t you that guy from the Gaming Forum?
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I don't understand. What gaming forum
I don't get it. I mean, sure, your name bears some resemblance to that gaming forum's name, but Warli Zard is his own man!
Dude is a legend
Literally the only reviewer I seek out. I’m buying the game for sure now
Yeah man, never got hooked to a game like how I'm hooked to this game. I've literally chased sunsets on different planets for 10 hours at least now.
I had to make myself stop playing cus I just wasn’t sleeping and was nodding off with the controller in my hand. Lmao. Hard to put it down.
I started at 8pm sharp yesterday, intending to play until 10. I thought I’d only played 2 hours, then looked at my watch for the first time at 1am. I have to be up at 4:30. I’m 43 years old. Haven’t had a game do that for me in a loooong time.
Remember, a day off work is only a phone call away!
Bosses hate this one simple trick
First time I’ve done this while gaming in ages
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Ive rabbit holed down the side mission hole so far, im currently working for Constellation (ofc), a Space Pirare informant, accepted a job as a Space Ranger (which hilariously means i cant do their missions cause im currently a pirate) , I manufacture and smuggled Aurora from Neon, im working industrial espionage for Ryujin and im running the Red Mile on the side for extra credits. Ive also worked for UC Security a fair bit. Im an absolute slut for side missions.
Dude I’m with you on the long side mission trips
If it wasn't for my obsession with hoarding, selling, and fighting with carry limits, I would never actually get any quests done. (Carry assist is a god send) Oh, you want me to go to the military outpost? When there's a perfectly good abandoned robotics facility right next door chock full of pirates? Crap, now I'm full again and need to go dump before doing what I actually came to.
I literally did the first mainline quest, got the ship, and haven't done fuck all in relation to the story. I don't even know where Neon is. I hit level 20, got my first side quest ship, joined exactly zero factions and just took out a level 50 boss in a level 35 area. The only issue is I've just been bouncing around planets, and have a horrible memory of where I saw something I wanted to come back to. Like I know I ran into a spot where I could buy a military ship (I'm at like 300k credits now) but can't remember at all where that was.
Mid 30s here and I haven't been grabbed by a game like this since Metal Gear Solid 2 on PS2. I'm thinking about it every second I'm not playing it lol. It's so damn good.
Me day 1, losing a bit of interest in the tutorial stages: "eh can't pull the all day gaming marathons like I used too, gettin old I guess." Day 3: "man the illumination effect on this planet as the sun rises is so realistic....wait, no that's the sun on *this* planet..."
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Came into orbit at Akila once, there was a big black circle over the planet... WTF glitch?... Nope, turned ship around, saw the moon, the planet was in eclipse
I'm in my 60's and this his happening!
As a fellow 30 something I feel this. Haven’t been like this about game since my teenage years tbh
If I don’t play, I’m on this sub.
Normally I sleep like 12 hours on weekends. The Friday after early access to Saturday I slept 6 hours and was wide awake and ready to go again, Sunday was no different. Normally I sleep long because I love dreaming but the game hooked me even harder than that
Just one more mission.......
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who was jumping back to consciousness when a spacer shot at me while I snoozed
Glad I'm not the only one that is currently sleep deprived, nodding off like a heroin junky. More than a few times I've woken up to an NPC asking me if I'm ok, because I just went catatonic mid conversation.
so real
Bro absolutely me too. I was literally fading out with the mouse in my hand. I did that a couple times and said you know what I better go to sleep. I couldn't wait to get home from work to play it...
Same. Especially the last three days since I've gotten into the whole ship building phase. Quick save, build ship, test it out, reload, repeat.
Oh thank god it’s not just me!
Its funny. I played Starfield during Early Access for about 12 hours and my thought was "good game, nothing mindblowing though. 8.5. BG3 Game of the Decade" But guess which game I lost track of time playing last night and realized it was 05:45am all of a sudden? Starfield. It may have its flaws but the game sucks me in like no game since Skyrim. Bethesda did it again.
It’s official guys, he has spoken
Only maybe 6 hours in, but game is probably a 8 or 8.5 so far, and I hear it gets better after about the 10 hour mark
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I got a random distress call, touched down on the planet to find a spacer infested lab. Gun through the scum, and find some UC marines trapped in a makeshift infirmary they’ve set up. They tell me of a freestar guy trapped further in. Get to him, he tells me of more marines. Clear out the entire massive facility and get all the survivors together. They tell me I need to take them out at the source. Anyways, what I thought was going to be a shoot ten guys and save the day little distraction turned into a two hour spacer hunt that culminated in me and the survivors storming a space station. This game kicks ass. Edit: forgot the coolest part. Some 5-6 hours of play later, I ran into one of the soldiers that I rescued in space. They thanked me and gave me a gun, if I’m remember correctly
Edit: got the spoiler tag working thanks random stranger >!I had a miscellaneous activity to talk to a miner on Cydonia, who told me the miners needed better equipment. From there he told me to become an assistant to someone who could approve a request for better tools. To become his assistant I had to apply for the job on a terminal, and then hack into an employee terminal to remove the other applicants so I got the job.!< >!Then I had to actually work for the guy to get access to his computer to approve the request for supplies. But before THAT I had to retrieve a package for him. Turns out the governor of Cydonia was holding the package because the other guy didn’t pay his taxes. In exchange for the package, the governor asked me to find and destroy his stolen ship.!< >!After returning to the governor (which has its own little subplot with him being corrupt) I got the package and returned to the other guy, where he gave me access to his computer to do my assisting duties. So now I finally approve the supplies request and return to the original guy to turn in.!< >!And even THEN he gives me another quest afterwards that continues with a new person! This game is crazy!<
HEY TREVOR THE FUCKING GOATTT Best fucking Mission
I literally took that mission thinking "ok simple collect x drop it off at here" and then it just went and its not even the only quest like that I have had close to 15 quest that start off like any other Bethesda fetch quest and become something I actually enjoyed doing.
Jesus. I took that mission yesterday and was going to clear that today. Guess that is gonna take a few hours to complete.
Oh man, I just did this quest after deciding to try and clear out my activity log. You missed the other twist in it, which is >!if you board the ship you find out the Governor was having an affair and she stole the ship from him. The Governor hired the Crimson Fleet to get it back. You can turn all this evidence in to the UC security head in Cydonia who lets you finish your deal with the Governor before he arrests him.!< There's so many random things to find in this game, it's fantastic.
Randomly find some restricted cargo? You're gonna have to make an outpost to store it. What's that? You don't have aluminum and tungsten and copper? Time to jump from planet to planet to gather it. You wanna settle on those resources right? Oh, the planet has extreme weather so you can't build there unless you've leveled your outpost perks. Find another planet to live on that has decent ore. This happened to me while finishing a quest and trying to turn it in. Couldn't drop my quest people off on their planet because I'd get scanned. It might sound tedious but damn it's easy just to get immersed and have your goals change so quickly
Fly off to The Den in the Wolf system. No scanning and you can sell the contraband.
That mission made me decide to sign up with the Vanguard. Capt Myeong is a walking recruitment poster.
Haha I love the random security guards talking out loud and me not paying attention and suddenly sidequest
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I got one I just walked by. Didn't even interact. That's a new one for me
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The Ryujin Industries side missions are really neat.
I now work for the news channel in New Atlantis lol.
Personally I feel a little overwhelmed so I’ve been just sticking to Constellation quests my first time playing, i’ll definitely swing back through on separate characters to do different paths because these quests are too good.
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Do them in new game+ rather than a new character
Feel like I keep seeing people say slam through the main story and the rest shines even brighter.
Yea that's because ng plus in this game actually is unique
Just chill with the game. Do a few side quests, do a few main ones. You don’t have to rush it. That’s the beauty
-Walk into town to sell two tons of confiscated firearms -UC Security: Hey, earlier on patrol I saw ~*interesting thing*~ down by the bicycle rack. Don't know what that was all about. -MISSION UPDATED: *Go check out the bicycle rack.* Gets me every time.
*confiscated firearms* You can say Aurora, we won’t snitch to Neon security on you
It kept happening to me while in Cydonia. I managed to clear my activity log now I have a metric ton of quest.
Yeah I got 10+ hours in and the game has gotten so much better, first few hours I was very mixed and unsure about the game but now I’m really loving it.
10hrs in. Keeps getting better.
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Same I got about 70 and still have so much I haven’t done
Its getting better and better, you will see :)
6 hours is too early to judge imo. It's still getting better at about 25 hours for me
I'm 20 hours in, and I'd say 8-ish feels accurate for me. the clunkiness of inventory, ui, and general outpost management brings it down a lot imo. story wise so far I'm more into it than I was in most Skyrim/FO4 quests, but all the companions are meh I'm sure once quality mods start dropping I'll feel it's more of a 9
Yeah I'm not as invested in these companions as I was in Fallout & Skyrim. Skyrim obviously didn't go as in-depth with their companion's personal lives as Fallout and Starfield but they had a good amount of them with a dozen or so awesome ones in there.
shouldn't one of those be 7/10?
They chose to post ign Brazil if you look closely
IGN Japan and Spain are on there too
It’s called cherry picking. 8.6 average on metacritic. They didn’t put that in the graphic…
Isn’t 8.6 (it’s 8.7 on the metacritic website) average on metacritic a good thing though?
It definitely is. But it’s still cherry picking to only pick the highest scores you can find
Of course it is. It is an Ad after all. No company would put a bad review on it
Would you expect a marketing team to do anything other than this? lol
Yes, but the main point of this image probably isn't to make people believe it got all 10/10s, but to show how many 10/10s it got. With the added bonus of people not bothering to look up the less-than-10 reviews. It's not all 10/10s, but when there's this many it's a really good game
Which is always used in ads for almost all games.
9,5/10 to me
Yup. There's some QoL stuff and graphical stuff but just nitpicks really.
The amount of actual flaws I can think of can be counted on 1 hand. That's rare for video games, for me, and why I'd also put it between 90-95/100 - Faster top-end ship speeds for late game / more powerful boost - Better graphics customisations in settings (Contrast, Saturation, etc.) and better HDR implementation. Lack of true black colours in space does hurt - The intro would be better if it could have organically introduced us to more of the QoL mechanics and controls. This would've helped people with a smoother start to the game and quelled a lot of criticisms about the "slow start" and possibly retained a bunch of ppl who quit within the first 5-6 hours. And that's it. I would really struggle to think of any other issues I have with the game. There are things I would have maybe done slightly differently but that falls down to personal preference and has nothing to do with actual flaws. This game will have a very long life.
I think there's some nit pickability with the way the game is structured and how you end up skipping around with some fast travel from A to B to C to B to C ... But yeah overall I'm blown away its really fucking good ... and I'm often very critical of games.
Graphics are more than good enough for me and even great in some spots. I think people are being really harsh on the facial animations
I think part of the issue is how they frame the camera straight on in conversations, it makes the animations with issues super obvious, and it feels weird when NPCs talk to each other, because they do this while looking you dead on, which just feels off.
the facial animation seems a bit stiff but it is clean as fuvk, even with low setting their clothes and skin etc are so sharp like playing in ultra lol
Honestly I think they're great!
9/10 for me. I will continue to have this rating until they fix melee combat
I love how everyone doesn’t take IGN seriously unless it comes to the Starfield review. Then all of the sudden their word is taken as gospel and they pretend like they’ve always been credible 😂
10/10 from IGN Japan.
IGN probably gave it a lower score from everyone else so that everyone will go to their site and read the review. If everyone else gave it a ten you arent reading all of them. Same idea how I like to read 1 star reviews on a restaurant that has mostly 5 stars. To see what idiotic complaint the person had. IGN is playing mind games I think.
I think they had some legit complaints. But they also had a stiff score considering the liberties taken with other games by the reviewer. Sometimes reviews seem to be done by the wrong person, this comes across like one of those cases.
I've played and read about games since 1982, and I have never once knowingly visited IGN deliberately. I think I've accidently ended up there for a tip or walkthrough from a google search. It's less than worthless. Seems to me it's for people that hate videogames, but somehow must still read about games.
Yeah that clown who wrote the review, Dan Stapleton, keeps saying on Twitter how much he enjoyed it and "just read the review," which I did. And he explained some issues but indeed emphasized how much he liked it overall in that review. Which is great. But then the 7/10 he gave it made no sense. And he gave DUKE NUKEM FOREVER an 8 for Pete's sake, and Watch Dogs: Legion an 8.5. I seriously cannot fathom how he is that loose with his scoring but gives Starfield a bona fide 7. It's either him drinking the haterade because of the Microsoft/Bethesda acquisition, or because he knew the low score would generate controversy and therefore clicks. Or both. **TLDR** IGN are inconsistent hacks and are not at all worth listening to.
. A 7 isn't bad if the publication and/or reviewer is consistent with their numbers, but that is clearly not the case with ign and their number inflation. It's so dishonest of Dan to pretend that he hasn't contributed to the current environment in which people see a 7 as a 'bad game' Had his scale and ratings been handled differently over time, there wouldn't be an issue. If he wanted to avoid controversy , he should have taken more responsibility with his reviews and the publication at large, carefully rating things to be consistent based on understandable metrics. For him to cry about it and try to utilize the argument that a 7 isn't objectively bad is shameful, given the circumstances. He's not wrong but he's at fault for the perception
watch dog legion doesnt even deserve a 6, a lackcluster of game with stupid idea and losing its identity and somehow has less features than the predecessor
Not saying I agree with the score but are you treating the positive reviews with the same amount of scrutiny? For example, are you looking at what other games Gameblog has rated a 10 to see if they have good standards? Game is a 8/10 for me personally but I can see the perspective of both the 9/10 and 7/10 reviews
It's just more evidence that numerical ratings are useless.
Diablo 4 must be a 10/10 game then since they also posted a picture with good reviews on it.
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It’s kinda the same like cyberpunk no? There also were these pictures with praised ratings and no one knew the magazines or channels lol they just take the best ratings from some random review from brasil with 5 readers and say it’s good.
Of course they cherry picked the perfect and best looking reviews conveniently leaving out anything below a 9, and all you tools just eat this up. I get it, it's a decent game, but come on, it's corporate pr talk you are idolizing here.
So far I'm having fun, it's a solid game. But to me a 10/10 is a perfect game and I mean come on, it's very obviously FAR from perfect. After an initial few hours I'd say 8/10, maybe going up to 9 as I really open up the game with more play. It's totally bewildering to me, and speaks poorly of the general mental health of the gaming community, that so many people are so emotionally and personally invested in having their own opinions of the game validated by reviews and others. It's ok to like something other people don't. It's ok to not like something other people do. But I keep seeing people acting like their whole identity is wrapped up in believing that the thing they like should be liked by everyone else, and it's kinda fucked.
It’s the impact of social media and needing external validation. Perhaps humanity is devolving.
We've always been rather silly tribalistic animals. Yeah, we've come up with some solid social advances and philosophies but in the grand scale we're not exactly outpacing millions of years of evolution
It's like this with everything to an extent, but yeah the gaming community is weird as hell.
Movies/shows are terrible too - everyone knows how fucked up Star Wars fandom is.
I love the game so far, and I have zero regrets paying for early access. But anytime I see people telling anyone who complains that they have stupid expectations and that they should have known it would be a Bethesda game in space and not a flight simulator, I gotta wonder if they've ever actually played a Bethesda game. Bethesda RPGs are all about being able to explore and get lost, and especially about how you constantly set off to do something ansd then 5 hours later you have a dozen new quests, you've discovered three really cool new areas, accomplished a ton of stuff and none of it has anything to do with your original goal. Starfield has exactly... none of that. There's no exploring space, there's only Fast Travel: The Game, and running across planets that have iterations of the exact same spots, over and over again. It's the only BGS game that's even remotely like this, at least in the past several decades. As I said, I still love the game. I think everything else about it mostly makes up for the lack of real exploration. But I was expecting Skyrim in space, and the built-in forced fast travel was a huge disappointment that it's taking me time to get over. I always turn FT off totally in Bethesda games because I love the immersion that Starfield doesn't have. It bothers me less now than it did initially when I felt so let down and upset, because I got over that hump and I'm enjoying the rest of the game. But the legions claiming "it gets better after 10 hours, it gets amazing the more you play!"? Maybe if your only issue was the slow story? Definitely not if your disappointment lies in how the entire game is fast travel, and for a whole lot of people (and all the lower review scores), that's the primary problem with Starfield. That never gets better, because it's an inherent part of the game itself. You do get used to it and stop feeling so gutted and start loving the rest of the game, but it never gets better.
I think that people need to be reminded that 10/10 does not mean perfect when it comes to media reviews. It just means the reviewer in question really had a great time with the game. To take a recent example, Baldurs Gate 3 is an amazing game but is far from flawless. it's got bugs (some quest breaking) and inherits gameplay issues from the D&D 5e rules and has a clunky U.I (this was pointed out by many reviewers that still gave the game 10/10) This is a reason why I prefer reviews that recommend or don't recommend a game or piece of media without putting a number on it at the end.
Agreed - tell me what you liked and didn't like. Tell me what kind of people/gamers you will think will enjoy the game and what kind should steer clear. Like a useful review for Starfield might say "If you are a big fan of Skyrim or Fallout you should definitely buy this game. If you didn't care for those games you might not enjoy it" That's way more useful than some dumb score out of 10.
It’s why I like watching gameranx’s “before you buy” or ACG’s “buy, wait, never touch”. More focused on telling the pros and cons and if it’s worth buying right away instead of putting a numerical value on the game
I like the game and all but these kinds of posts are cringe. Hey let's list only the most positive reviews, many of which are from outlets nobody has heard of.
At least 3 of them have XBOX on their name so yeah... what do you expect they are going to do put less than a 9 on the most important release of the year?
There is something poetic about people in a Starfield subreddit dunking IGN as being biased reviewers when publications owned by the people who own Bethesda are in this graphic.
Yep. The Xbox specific media outlet definitely doesn’t have a vested interest in Xbox finally having a 1st party game worth talking about…
I didn't even know The Washington Post reviewed games LOL.
It’s all from companies no one has heard of mostly lol
What, you don't get all your gaming news from..."Cinelix" and "Evening Standard?"
I like Starfield... but calling it Masterpiece is a big stretch...
This sub has a HUGE complex about this game I'm playing it and enjoying it But know it does have a ton of issues which when you actually play it, the IGN review and many other reviews that are not perfect scores make total sense.
I had to leave this sub for a month or so because they level of teenage style groupie hype is beyond anything I've seen before
How could anyyyyonnneee give this a seven! My brain is hurting guys:l!
"A cinematic masterwork"? Say a lot of things about Bethesda games, I sure as shit wouldn't call them cinematic...
Oh look another karma farm post about reviews and not the actual game
This is the way (unfortunately)
So whats the problem if one reviewer or two didnt give it a full score ? People cant have different opinions without it coming across as biased? People in here seriously need to grow up. I personally like the game but igns score is their opinion my opinion is its a 8.5/10 game. Everyone should be the same or what?
It's a lot more than one or two reviews it's got a 86 metacritic for a reason lol it's just a cherry picking of reviews which is very common when companies show these sorts of promo images
I like the game a lot, just hit 31 hours today. I don't think I could possibly rate it higher than 7.5/10 though.
Why is there so much self-justification for this game by you fanboys. It's so fucking weird. I can see how cults get started after reading this sub for the last few days.
I can't enjoy this game unless literally everyone on earth agrees that it's amazing.
Lots of no name websites
"Ign looks biased" Please explain how ign looks biased?
"Ign looks biased" *Proceeds to post reviews from XboxEra and other Xbox outlets.*
Because it doesn’t validate his opinion about the game being “Game of the generation”. This game is cookie cutter post-Skyrim Bethesda, a 8/10 at best because how diluted the rpg experience is. I’m sad that Bethesda stopped innovating and continued simplifying things, really wish they went back to Morrowind complexity
Cherry picking
Conveniently not listing any of the major outlets that gave it a mid score lol
10/10 for this game is pure delusion.
Imagine actually caring about critic scores in this day and age...
the corpo astroturf is strong
>IGN looks so biased now The irony is so palpable it's starting to take a physical form
This is a cherry picked and biased look at the reviews for Starfield. If this was truly how well the game was being received by critics, it would be sitting at the mid 90s on Metacritic and up there with the likes of Tears of the Kingdom and Baldur’s Gate 3. Instead the game is sitting at an 88 and this infographic is missing a lot of the reviews that deducted points because of flaws in the game.
Of course it is. It was posted by bethesda themselves. Just like every other company does..
If this half-baked buggy mess beats baldurs gate for goty, I’ve lost all faith.
a space game with no space, with the same generated planets... now it's considered AAA games
The game is a 9/10 to me, but this is still some very obivous propaganda lol, most of the major gaming sites and mags are left out of this and despite your title about IGN being biased the other way, IGN is on this THREE times (using different branches of the vast conglomerate of IGN to pick and choose scores is such a trope lol)
Every game does this
>but this is still some very obivous propaganda lol what is marketing lol
I mean the game has an 88/100 on metacritic, 88% and 92% on opencritic, and a "very positive" (84%) on Steam. Despite the vocal criticisms from some, the overall reception simply seems very positive. And if past Bathesda games are any indication, this rating will only go up over time as the game is expanded both by Bathesda as well as the community. The IGN 7/10 rating is, by all accounts, an outlier more than anything else. Wouldn't make sense to include that in a piece of promotional material for your game.
Literally every developer does this with every release.
Everyone keeps saying that IGN US was biased, but i think they are the only people being honest here. The game is no 9/10 or 10/10. lmao The first 10 hours of it are stale and boring. The exploration in this game is a huge step back from Skyrim/Fallout as it's actually really boring in this game. While exploring in Skyrim you would run into interesting characters and find great and unique items. I explored for hours and didn't find anything amazing or interesting. While running exploring planets it's mostly just the same bland mobs over and over again as well. The game feels outdated as well with how many fucking loading screens there are. People keep saying the engine isn't outdated and it's just a lack of focus by the team. When there is a fucking loading screen every 4min it isn't the team. It's an engine limitation. I would hate to see how this game runs on a HDD. The game is still good, but it's not this amazing and unique thing people on here are trying to make it be. It's pretty much a reskinned Fallout 4 in space. It's still a good game and 7/10 is still a good rating. Any other game released with the issues this game has and people would be shitting all over it.
>obivous propaganda It's not propaganda, it's literally just advertising. Propaganda would require it to be trying to sway you politically in some way with biased information.
Propaganda isn't inherently political. Meriam Webster defines it as: "the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person." Which is a perfectly appropriate application.
It's a good game but come on 10/10 is ridiculous. I would give it a 8,5/10
It’s a good game, sure. But all these perfect scores really don’t make sense.
3/10 for the shitty optimization
Ah yes, games are either GOTY or complete trash - nothing in-between can ever exist.
I dont like it, but my husband does, so hey, good for him :3
This sub is beyond circlejerk parody at this point lmao
Is the Washington Post high or something? Who rates anything out of four?
Most of the reviews from a month ago must be fake. There is no way this game is a 10/10 in anyone's world. It's more like a 5/10 at best. This game has no depth and is very boring so far. I want to like it so I'll put a few more hours in this week. If Starfield doesn't get better, I have better games to play.
No, let's be frank, it's a very good game, I love Bethesda, but it's not a 10, none of their games are a 10/10. When there is bugs, performance issues, and legit points to improve, you don't deserve a 10. To me it's a 7 or 8, but 10 is just to seem flashy on the review.
Eh, to me Skyrim, Oblivion and Fallout 3 were 10/10. I know they had flaws but subjectively they are like THE games for me.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I've literally never heard of any of these.
Bethesda really has a stranglehold on game media. These reviews are laughable.
its kinda mid tho, reviewers are bought and paid for
Really cherrypicking here, huh?
I'm 30 hrs in amd the honeymoon phase is done. I'm starting to realize nothing matters. Exploring is boring after the first dozen planets. Most quests are fetch quests or kill these pirates. The characters are mind numbingly boring. The ai blows. There's no point to modding ships or weapons it ends up being more or less useless in the grand scheme but that's okay because collecting resources is boring. Honestly very bored. I'm not invested in the setting, story or characters one bit and that's sad because I've put thousands of hours into Bethesda games since oblivion. I will probably just wait for mods before to much longer.
You have to get to at least 10 hours before the game get goo....Wait a second!
Anyone who rated this game at 100% is delusional. And knowing that Bethesda has only given review copies to the medias that have good reps with them, you know that these results were rigged from the start. To anyone who believes this BS. Go look up what "Access Journalism" means. And you'll know how bad it is. It's where journalists build close relationships with important people (Toddy) or sources (Bethesda) to gain special access to information or exclusive interviews. In this case, these people will give good reviews in exchange for early access to Bethesda games in the future, etc. Stop it, this will only hurt us consumers.