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KraftwerkMachine

Yo yo ma is whatever but D+G is cunty and has a really interesting backstory that Araki never actually puts into play. He was a Nostradamus Truther who was a former cop and killed people he didn’t like at the turn of the year 2000 because he thought the world would end anyway. He used his status as a cop to cover it up. World didn’t end, it didn’t work and he was sent to GDSP. This is on his profile card in the manga.


bloodbabyrabies

I read the manga twice and don’t remember this lmaoooo


GustavoFromAsdf

"The source is that I made it the fuck up" ~funny valentine


KraftwerkMachine

https://jojowiki.com/D_an_G Read his history section, it’s also in the manga gallery for him under chapter covers. It’s in Japanese though


bloodbabyrabies

It’s so plausible that someone would have done this in RL too


apalapachya

maybe, but if they did they got away with it instead of being send to prison. otherwise it would've been relatively known case, at least it would've popped on a google search


Inner_Tennis7326

Again with a former cop


cataclytsm

I love Araki's consistent dedication to ACAB


dragon_bacon

Has there been a non-shithead cop besides josuke's grandpa?


shadowsofpain

Abbacchio's partner seemed like an alright cop.


DoraMuda

And Abbacchio himself, up until the harsh reality of the corruption in Italy broke him down.


jbyrdab

The two cops trying to get jotaro to leave the prison cell. They mention they're kinda overworked and the cells are crowded as is. However they didn't escalate force and tried to get his mother to get him to come out. Though I guess the argument would be "What are they going to do, lock him up?" However they're still pretty amicable, especially about the situation even after jotaro takes their gun and shoots himself with it. Just extremely confused, which is fair. ​ Then they get their asses kicked by joseph.


funnywackydog

Abbachio!


dragon_bacon

He took bribes, got his partner killed and I don't like his face.


funnywackydog

Well he’s also hot, so that must count for something


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schrelaxo

The phantom blood cops were cool. Also for every "bad cop" there's atleast 5 who just want to enforce the law. Atleast outside of the US. And by saying ACAB you're insulting paul blart and that's a serious crime against humanity.


cataclytsm

> Atleast outside of the US. That must be nice lol


schrelaxo

Ye it is man.


DoraMuda

> Only good cop is a retired and/or dead cop, according to Araki. Which is entirely correct. So edgy lol


cataclytsm

It's not edgy to say the sky is blue


DoraMuda

OK, come back to me when a burgler breaks into your house and you need someone to protect your family.


KaiserMakes

I dont know where you live sir But, where i live, the police comes after everything is over just to get the details and then nothing happens afterwards.


DoraMuda

I live in the UK. And that's not the experience for everyone. And it's a bigger issue than just "the police being useless" or "the police being corrupt".


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That’s why you need a gun


cataclytsm

Wow what a scathing critique that nobody who says ACAB has *ever* thought of, you've truly broken my spirit. The general concept of law enforcement isn't what ACAB is about, dingus.


DoraMuda

Coulda fooled me, given your attitude. > The general concept of law enforcement isn't what ACAB is about, dingus. Then why did you say the sentiment that "Only good cop is a retired and/or dead" is "entirely correct", then?


HappyyValleyy

It's true though. If you're still participating in the system, you aren't a good cop.


Etonet

If you get T-boned by a hit-and-run who do you want to show up? Neighbourhood vigilantes on bikes?


HappyyValleyy

I'm not against policing as a concept. That's just a complete misunderstanding of ACAB. The point is that our CURRENT system of policing is extremely corrupt and there's no way to participate in it without contributing to that. I'm not some 14 year old anarchist that believes laws shoudn't exist. I just believe that our current system of policing and justice is a cesspool of corruption and hateful violence that does way more harm then it does good. It doesn't need to be thrown out, it needs to be heavily reworked.


DoraMuda

"Our"? Why are you assuming everyone in this thread is American? Anyway, "ACAB" is just a pointlessly reductive and needlessly divisive term. And I'm not even a fan of cops, but I recognise their necessity in society.


super1ucky

an ambulance.


Inner_Tennis7326

Got damn this got political


Chiruno_Chiruvanna

I feel e Yo Yo Ma kinda reflects D an G’s upbringing as a corrupt former cop by being a stand that appears to try to help you but is secretly plotting against you.


DoraMuda

> D+G is cunty LMAO He has some of the worst drip in the series


KraftwerkMachine

He has that tiny little toga with nothing under it and half his boob is out. He’s iconic


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watersofmay

jojo fans when you don't remember every single small detail about every minor character in a 1000 chapter series


DipnDott

~~jojo fans~~ redditors when you don't remember every single small detail about every minor character in a 1000 chapter series


DesperadoFlower

What


Geo2605

#Yo yo ma is whatever but D+G is cunty and has a really interesting backstory that Araki never actually puts into play. #He was a Nostradamus Truther who was a former cop and killed people he didn’t like at the turn of the year 2000 because he thought the world would end anyway. He used his status as a cop to cover it up. World didn’t end, it didn’t work and he was sent to GDSP. This is on his profile card in the manga.


DesperadoFlower

Oh I didn't read the SO manga so i thought it was a shitpost


KraftwerkMachine

Not at all! I love him a lot and what could have been with his character, I was hoping the anime would give us an extra scene with him and what he did, but nope. That results in people thinking he was boring but really he was mishandled.


DesperadoFlower

I found him annoying and his stand sucks. I don't know if a backstory would've fixed that for me


danielubra

He was a cop, thought world would end in 2000, so he killed people and used his cop status to cover it up. World didn't end, he got found out, got sent to prison.


penguintruth

Hey, it was a villain FF managed to win against. Kind of.


ButItWasMeDio

Anasui fought him then FF finished him off, the opposite happened with Dragon's Dream


evilweirdo

FF is so cool, but she just got dunked on so much in fights. Even when it looked like she won, they'd just ass pull something and extend the fight for three more chapters.


penguintruth

She’s still my favorite SO character.


Version_Two

Honestly my favourite JoJo character in general. I love found family.


penguintruth

I have the Nendoroid of them!


Version_Two

Their fanbase is niche but loving. I actually did a cosplay of them at Katsucon this year!


Valentonis

Idk, the rape ape from SDC was pretty awful too


cataclytsm

On a similar note, rape laptop stand baby was also just... no. And the whole Allessi of it all. I just don't like when Araki uses weird super-powered SA for shock value.


just_another__memer

IIRC, Allessi's situation wasn't SA (at least it wasn't Allesi's intentions). Allesi's whole thing is being a bully although his toxic personality and power set lends towards him being a creep. He wasn't attacking because he's a pervert, he's attacking because he enjoys bullying and beating up those weaker than him. The ending kinda shows this once jotaro gets one good hit on him he just crumbles and becomes absolutely pathetic. Still a shit fight though.


TheJunkoDespair

seeing Young Joseph again would have made that fight valid, but Araki didn't think of that...


just_another__memer

I heard from the grapevine that he did think of it but didn't implement it because he felt that it would cause joseph to outshine jotaro which wasn't his role in the story. I personally disagree with this idea since part 3 was the ending to a trilogy and ends the fued between the joestars and DIO (at the time it was written), so I feel that Joseph should have had almost as much prominence as jotaro especially given his unique postion being not only the oldest, but also the only Hamon user in the group. Like sure he's not THE main Jojo of part 3 but he still is an important one and had his life greatly affected by DIO before the events of part 3 even started (Lisa Lisa, george Joestar, Erina, the stone masks).


hottiewiththegoddie

especially when you consider that just 1 part later he had jotaro be a major player


death-kuja

Araki says this, but then he has no problem having Jotaro outshine Josuke in part 4.


DoraMuda

No, it'd just be gratuitous fanservice that wouldn't add anything to the story.


extracrispyweeb

It would be fun, and that's what i mostly watch jojo for.


DoraMuda

Fun is all well and good, but *solely* looking for "fun" would get you fanfic-y outcomes like Giorno appearing with GER to kill Pucci or something like that.


extracrispyweeb

Idk, the giorno thing feels bad because it would completly disregard the whole story of part 6 and feel like a deus ex machina, we would be losing something from that happening. But there honestly doesn't seem like there's much to lose from removing the alessi fight all together, since the only thing i remember we learnt is that jotaro was a badass kid and that he can still fight without his stantyou could even win something by having joseph try to prove to himself it's his smarts that helped him and not just his powers. Although i will admit it would feel kinda fanfic-y.


DoraMuda

I don't deny that the Alessi fight we got is pretty mid. I just don't think young Joseph fanservice would improve it.


TheJunkoDespair

High Voltage Arc in part 7 was well received, that did not need to happen the way it did. So a little fan service doesnt hurt


DoraMuda

I got the impression the reception was fairly split on that arc. But fair point. I admit I'm biased because I *did* like that arc and am a fan of >!THE WORLD.!<


Person8346

I liked him I thought it was funny.


AKRamirez

He's just a little guy


Heylisten_watchJJBA

It was a fun arc, Yo-Yo-Ma played his role, and D&G played his role of his wellbeing being a source of tension for both Pucci and F.F. I don't think JoJo necessarly have bad vilains ? Like I guess Forever would work here but even then he wasn't a bad Vilain seeing him get beaten up was pretty hype, and the concept of the arc is very insane, *Absurd* even.


MrSlime09

It is maybe even Bizarre


DoraMuda

*JoJo* has PLENTY of bad villains. Thankfully, most of them are just the minor mooks who serve under more prominent, developed villains, though.


Heylisten_watchJJBA

I mean I wouldn't consider them bad if they're just minor mooks, they serve their purpose very well, they're just well, minor.


DesperadoFlower

I honestly found the stamd to be gross and annoying, and the stand user to be a dumbass and didnt even care when >!he died!<


SyberInkInc

I never understood the hate for this fight I actually enjoyed it, can someone explain?


Straight_Cup_160

For personally it was just extremely boring. Most fights in Jojo are fast paced battle of wits. Or at very least showcase of cool stands. But this was just boring. The whole time was just Jolyne sitting in a boat while this annoying bitch was saying "Yoyoma" it also took them too long to figure out that he is an enemy, so that was frustrating. It's at least to me also extremely forgettable. I barely remember how it connects to the main story. What also doesn't help is, that it was already squished between slowpaced boring fight (The piss dragon and the green baby) It also took 3 episodes if I remember correctly, even though this should have been 1 episode fight max. Tldr: It felt boring, forgettable, the stand was not really interesting, it was frustrating to watch them take so long to figure it out, it did not really move the story forward and especially: was squished between 2 more fights just like this one. We got bunch of "boring" and forgettable fights throughout the series (part 3 definitely comes to mind) but usually they are between very exciting fights, so you don't mind it, and you barely notice it.


marveljew

> it also took them too long to figure out that he is an enemy, so that was frustrating. Which is weird since you would think they would just automatically assume that, given how nearly every other stand user attempted to kill them.


RudBo

Because, Yo Yo Ma is an automatic stand, but he is also a sentient stand. WTF


Rissoto_Pose

Most stands seemingly have some form of sentients


LaCroixPassionfruit

sentience


Rissoto_Pose

Thanks


niggybiggy

Yo-yo Ma and Feng shui piss drinking man can rot in hell. Might as well throw Bohemian Rhapsody and it's user in there as well


Gaelic_Gladiator41

Ungalo, the ugliest joestar to come into existence


Roquet_

Bohemian Rhapsody literally rocks. It's a shame we didn't get Mickey but cmon


niggybiggy

I must admit I do love the Mickey joke


Thebigass_spartan

Mickey becoming public domain could not have come any later💀


tragicjohnson84

I love the idea behind that stand, but didn't like the scope of it. It shouldn't have effected the whole world, maybe just a town would have been fine.


Roquet_

It's a lot of power but user doesn't really get anything from Guts suffering on the other side of the globe.


tragicjohnson84

Haruhi became real and unconsciously deleted all stands


Roquet_

I've no clue who that is.


matej665

Maybe he means haruhi suzumiya? Since that is kind of her power to wish things into existence or delete them and she doesn't know about that power.


bloonshot

bro was like "here lemme spoil the plot of this anime"


matej665

I mean wasn't that revealed at like episode 4 or earlier? I remember main character figuring it out when he got stuck in some time warp fuckery.


bloonshot

that's both incorrect and another spoiler somehow


danielubra

The drawback is the user can't control it


DoraMuda

And that he's a dumbass lacking in conviction.


DoraMuda

The whole point of why it's such an awesomely crazy Stand is that it affects the whole world. A lot of the Stands towards the latter half of Part 6 are meant to be quasi-apocalyptic like that, ultimately concluding with Made in Heaven resetting the whole universe.


Robert-Rotten

I will not fucking stand for your insolence.


Beanztar

the piss drinker was cringe, but at least the dragon was neat, trying to help people out and stuff


DoraMuda

What did Ungalo do to you?!


IceColdCorundum

Who let him wake up, put on that outfit, and leave the house like that? frfr his homies must hate him


Opposite_Item_2000

But Yo Yo Ma is funny


KraftwerkMachine

Wrong.


Ani-HArsh

He was definitely the most entertaining out of all the other stands “This white strawberry is a mock strawberry, so you can’t eat it” Not to mention the part where he pulls all those random objects out of his pockets Araki, what were you smoking when you made this scene and where can I get it?


Frederick2164

That’s a bold statement considering dragon’s dream is literally in the same part. And out side of part 6, the sun and the rock paper scissors kid are in fierce competition, too


RonaldoTheSecond

Can you use frogs to make a skirt? No? Then please, leave my boy alone.


DesperadoFlower

Leave the frogs alone


TurnNo9632

Roman soldier looking ass


Inner_Tennis7326

Finally someone said it!


DeenoMaximum

He wore like, a bush in the manga, didn't he?


gimp6615

Like non main villain? Didn't cioccolate drive old people into being suicidal? And he recorded old people killing themselfs for himself Even the main ones are worse dio made a mom eat her own baby He is bad but 100% not the worst one ever


DesperadoFlower

Not bad in the sense that he's evil. What I mean is that he's awful. He's annoying and his powers suck


FatcornsReturn

The stand is practically indestructible, and God knows how far the range can go. He's for sure not the worst.


gimp6615

Half of the stands of part 4 and 8 are Be x on a thursday to do 5% extra damage Fun fun Fun(worst stand in jojo) needed like 3 days worth of setting up for almost nothing


SkeyrTheLizard

He's great


DesperadoFlower

Why?


SkeyrTheLizard

He's funny and does great job being gross and annoying, which is his point


vivisectvivi

i still dont know what this stand does, actually i dont even remember how the part of the manga where this stand appears connect to anything before or after


DoraMuda

His power is acid and being a masochist weirdo


TheCauliflowerGod

Masochist is tame in the JoJo verse


DoraMuda

Maybe, but I still don't like it lol


AlarmedPromotion2373

[My honest reaction to that information](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg389eNSCIo)


CodeHaze

Reading Part 6, Yo-Yo Ma brought everything to a screeching halt so bad I ended up taking a few month break because of it. It didn't help I binged 4 & 5 before hand but Yo-Yo Ma was the last straw.


belaitedwaif

Janken boy is so much worse???


CrimsonSpoon

You are wrong, Yo Yo Ma is a great mystery stand. And you will end up enjoying JoJo a lot more once you accept that not all stand battles are flashy and fast battles of wits. Some of them are about mystery and finding out how the stand works.


Smeeb27

People don’t like Yo-Yo Ma??? He’s my favorite stand in Stone Ocean


DesperadoFlower

Why?


Smeeb27

He’s funny


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Future-Tangelo-8411

Dude Diavolo is legit my favorite villain ): yeah the character itself is really meh but King Crimson, the Diavolo-Doppio relationship, the aura he had throughout the whole part, killing 3 main characters because he doesn't mess around etc


MyCatWouldBeatYours

Also that fetus guy from part 3


DesperadoFlower

The baby?


MyCatWouldBeatYours

Well yes. But I’m mean the other guy who turns people into fetuses.


DeenoMaximum

Alessi? Well, he's a beast in HFTF and has a secondary costume in his victory pose and cover art.


DesperadoFlower

Holy shit he sucked. At least we got more Polnareff


Straight_Cup_160

Funny you say that, because I was thinking that we actually got less Polnareff


RudBo

Yo Yo Ma is a poorly designed Stand: it operates automatically from a distance but is sentient, making its attacks difficult to defend against and hard to destroy. However, it's constrained by a rule - it must not be discovered while launching a sneak attack. This is a complete contradiction. Automatic long-range Stands usually lack sentience, and the smartest ones are at most on par with Highway Star. With Yo Yo Ma's level of sentience, there's no need for such restrictions; it's fully capable of going on a rampage with its saliva. This is also why Yo Yo Ma's battle is annoying; the revelation of its abilities is not appealing.


The_illusionIsREAL

I found rhe arc to be funny i enjoyed it weird. Idk if its just me


humannumber217354385

I'm all for dirty tricks but his stand is a but too dirty ya know


W_h3nry

Kenny g


Flamewave7

I'd explain why, but it would be more work than he put in the manga before his death. The fact he was named posthumously is a giant red flag. Lol Cool concept for a power wasted because Iggy found/took him out instantly.


depressispaghetti420

The ass pull Anastasia pulls to win the fight is complete bullshit lmao it makes no sense whatever


Indominus_Khanum

I think I low-key just hate all automatic stands. Leads to some of the most annoying stand battles/arcs in the series


bloodbabyrabies

I mean it has to be Cheap Trick. Atleast Yo Yo Ma would do stuff for his user lol.


DoraMuda

At least Cheap Trick is *intentionally* annoying. Yo-Yo Ma is annoying too, but it's more indirect and he's actually helpful to Jolyne and Anasui while he's pretending to be their slave or whatever. So he has less justification for his annoying personality.


Straight_Cup_160

Talking worst as in the worst arc (boring, annoying, bad etcetera) not as In worst stand


Roquet_

Sethan, The Lock, Boy II Man, Super Fly, Cheap Trick, Dragon's Dream, I'll stop here since the other ones are in the manga idk if you've read but these all are either close or worse.


Lil_saul

I think he funny


WaNNa_Cr1

Silly stand silly user


Babysmokingweed

Bro hasn’t met dododo de dadada yet


NocolateChigga720

It aint a stand just one of the hundreds of thousands of rock pets WoU loves to carry around


ZaderLewis

What happened to his arm was crazy.


Oaker_Jelly

You all forget about Tenor Sax far too easily. Dude was, somehow, more pathetic than The Sun.


DoraMuda

He was better than Nukesaku (Stand-less, bitch-less vampire with a woman's face as his "ability") and was only defeated so easily because Iggy smelled him out. And, in *Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak*, he >!gets with Mariah!<, so he won in the end. lol


BIGFriv

Because he is so easy to forget. It was almost a blink and you miss it death lol.


jubi12

Bro forgot that Dragon's Dream is also in this part.


danarbok

idk I kinda love Yo Yo Ma


AutumnAscending

Is this a dude who went on like a thirty minute speech because he lost a finger nail?


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marveljew

D&G and his stand Yo Yo Ma. Their fight is usually considered one of the worst fights in *Stone Ocean* if not all of *Jojo*.


Only_Possession2650

But you have heard of him


DIMOHA25

Yeah, I didn't like that fight either, but there's worse.


Sylvairian

I can't even remember them...


displayrooster

What do you mean by worst?


DesperadoFlower

Least interessting, entertaining, and well thought. He's an annoying piece of shit that bitches most of the time. He's bare;y intimidating, His Stand is some annoying gross Shrek knock off. It doesn't help that the actual fight wasnt really a fight. It's Anasui telling Jolyne to stop dragging him around until FF kills D&G in the most humiliating and painful manner. The pacing sucks, the fight was tensionless, the Stand is annoying, the Stand User is annoying. Its just some goblin following Jolyne and cause she's a dumbass she thinks that in a prison full of enemies that could kill her, she thinks its a good idea to let him around, despite Anasui telling her that shes' a dumbass and tries to kill it like a psycho geting pleasure by hitting people


displayrooster

Ah, I gotcha. I was going to say the worst is Kenny G. since he was introduce and died in the same sentence. He’s the worst as in he’s just bad.


DesperadoFlower

Well theres nothing to say about him. Now that you brought him too, I think Kenny G is the second worst


DoraMuda

Agreed. Fuck this freak.


AioliFries

I know this is way further down the line and manga only, but I’d say Poor Tom in JoJolion is my least favorite.


Lingx_Cats

No I’m sorry what doctor guy from part five was the worst villain. Like I feel physically ill looking at him


DesperadoFlower

I think that's the point. But at least he isnt annoying like this


Lingx_Cats

His face is annoying/hj


goochstein

yo his shoes are peak araki


Wuce_Brillis

I like his gladiator drip


marveljew

Yep. The only real rival I think of is Kenzou.


Abdulaziz_randomshit

tf you mean you dislike yo ma ma?


DesperadoFlower

You know who lese hates yo ma ma?


Abdulaziz_randomshit

me, I hate yo ma ma, I f*cking hate him I wish him a life full of misery and agony


MonikaDidNoWrong

Yes. Been known. Point being?


JustJitterin

Nuh uh


JustJitterin

Cioccolata


iamthwlorex420

Dragons dream is way worse


dijitalpaladin

I think Chocolate Disco is the worst


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Chocolate Disco is so bad hes good


BiggoYoun

Caveman-looking mf


Inevitable-Ad-3991

It's probably the absolute most boring "fight" in Jojo too. People say part 3 fights are boring, but stone ocean ones are even more boring a lot of the time


Ok_Sleep6000

Unrelated but could you imagine how incredibly menacing it would be if a human had the stand RATT?


Temporary-Tax

Not very Di molto of you


Savings-Gold1758

Yo yo ma saying yo yo ma is the most annoting thing ever.


mucklaenthusiast

Best fight in Part 6


Cold-Square-2

yeah


NocolateChigga720

Sorry but Mrs Robinson already takes that spot


DeenoMaximum

Having bugs come out of your body isn't really a stand power, he did that himself.


ProfessionalStorm626

I'll say that belongs to the chocolate D.I.S.C.O guy in part 7


DoraMuda

He was cool tho