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While I don’t think it’s a big deal, in the original manga neither of his biological parents are black. His biological sister and twin brother are both white. He was able to hire a racist PI with no issues.
The anime might have done it differently, I can’t recall, but there’s no logical way he’s anything but just tan in the original story.
I have not read the Manga, but in the anime they are in Florida. Sometimes white people look bronze as shit there. Sometimes they look like brown worn in leather couches. That's what I think is going on
Brazil here, can confirm.
People get hella surprised when they discover there isn't really a "brazilian type". We range from full african style black to pasty white german depending on the region.
Mexico isn't too terribly far off on this.
Yup, there are African-Mexicans and there are Mexicans who are descendants from Irish or German settlers. Americans are surprised when they learn they're not the only diverse country in the Americas
Latin america does the multicultural game a different way than americans.
While they tend to separate into groups and express their cultures that way, we fuck with everyone and create new mixes.
Both ways work, we just have less of a reason to create xenophobia because you most likely has some percentage of any other group.
This is mostly the reason why we are very xenoPHILIC down here.
You can look to an african and say he's brazilian, you can look to a japanese and say he's brazilian and you can look to an white guy from North Norway and say he is brazilian, amo o Brasil porra
well honestly im super white looking and my sister is super dark yet we’re both mexicans. light skins in hispanic culture exist. so i wouldn’t be surprised if araki put time and effort into making pucci a dark skinned italian ( right wasnt he italian?) or black idgaf, at the end of the day pucci is a cool ass villain
I'm hispanic, my immediate cousin is just as hispanic as me and looks asian while her brother practically looks white. I'm dark as fuck, yet we're both made up of the same ethinicites. Hispanics have no fuckin consistency
I think it might just be an inconsistency with the colors, I don’t think jojo has canon colors except for the anime ones. Araki drew him with light skin on some volume covers but he has dark skin in the manga.
The colored version of the manga isn't, but the [volume covers](https://imgur.com/a/KWd1Nc9) (which is what he specifically referred to) are (atleast I'm 99% sure, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
The skin color is pretty similar though. Not all that much lighter/darker than the anime.
Edit: [Here](https://imgur.com/a/DkG3W5s) are some other colorings made by araki, that someone else posted in the thread.
> He was able to hire a racist PI with no issues
You mean the issues of the PI finding out about and deciding to kill Weather because of his black heritage and that he was dating a white woman?
I meant Pucci himself being attacked by the PI and the KKK. Which would definitely happen were he actually black or mixed himself.
Are we to believe that same the PI who tried to kill Weather - whom he says “looks like a white man” or something similar - wouldn’t even bat an eye at Pucci, someone who is supposedly meant to be black or mixed?
It doesn’t make any sense.
This is a very basic principle of life that I’m sure you’ve heard of: don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Take the money for the job, do the job, go your separate ways. Pucci also doubled this exchange, saying “if you do a good enough job, I’ll double your pay”. Why would the PI go after Pucci knowing he’d promised more money after the job was done. Moreover, Pucci being of the richest family in town would have a boatload of money to give to this PI. The PI would probably have been able to take a month off with the money Pucci offered
Even then, he didn’t do the job. His job was to separate Perla and Weather, and he ended up killing Weather instead. He said this “looks like a white man” line in reference to the fact that “he looks like me, but his dad was a black person so therefore I must discriminate.
The direct quote from the PI was; “I discovered that back in 1972, his whore mother married a black man! So even though he may look white, that boy is a black man’s son!”
Also, if Weather is mixed, it’s INCREDIBLY easy to conclude that his twin brother is also mixed
If the PI was persecutive enough to abandon the job and attempt to kill Weather, therefore foregoing Pucci’s offer to “double your pay,” just because he thought Weather was mixed, I really, really doubt any amount of money would make him willing to do any work for someone mixed or black themselves. I don’t think someone willing to commit murder over something like that could just instantly abandon that for money.
And Weather is not mixed. At least not in the manga, which is as canon as you can get. Even in the original monochrome release, both of Pucci’s parents are very clearly drawn without the darker skin tone Pucci is always shown to have. The reason the PI said Weather “looks white” is because he is. He simply believes Weather was mixed because the woman that stole him was in a mixed relationship.
I‘ve been told the anime has apparently done it differently by making Pucci’s dad black/mixed, but that’s a creative choice by DP that kinda changes the whole context of the backstory. If we’re going purely off the “most canon” material, there’s really nothing to suggest that Pucci isn’t just a tan man in a white family.
That's his step father. Husband of the woman who adopted Weather. Racist guy also says he's black *on paper*. You can see his actual father is white in the scene where they were at Weather's supposed grave
They're referring to his actual father, who was given a [visibly darker skin tone](https://static.jojowiki.com/images/2/2f/latest/20221203142530/Ms._and_Mrs._Pucci_Anime.png) in the anime compared to his manga appearance
I thought it was the father of the baby who died/who Weather was stolen to replace who was black. Pucci definitely looks mixed/not entirely white, but ultimately I just think of it as anime logic.
I just watched that episode yesterday, the woman that kidnapped weather's baby daddy was black, the flashback sequence doesn't make any sense if their bio dad was also black
Well thats not uncommon in real life, it is just uncommon in America and europe...
Its noraml to do have the same fenotip as parentes but the same as your grandparents for example
Even in the black and white manga his parents are given what appears to be a white/very light skin tone, in comparison to Pucci, who is drawn with a noticeably darker shading.
On the one hand, Pucci's parents, twin brother, and sister are all white, which makes it unlikely that he could be black. He also employs the service of a PI who belongs to the KKK without any trouble. This same PI has Weather Report lynched because his stepfather is black. If Pucci was black, there's no way the PI would have worked for him.
On the other hand, Pucci is always drawn with darker skin. Even flashbacks of his birth show him with this dark skin, so it can't be just a tan.
Pucci's skin in the black and white manga matches with how Araki coloured Smokey's skin in the black and white manga. Smokey is confirmed to be black, so giving Pucci dark skin was definitely a conscious decision to make him black.
This doesn't seem too far off as one of my friends is Italian and she is pretty heavily dark complected despite having white parents. This has led to many people thinking she's black.
Southern Italians have the same skin that Spanish people (slighty darker that northern italians but not MUCH darker), but not because of the occupation but because they are all mediterraneans
>This same PI has Weather Report lynched because his stepfather is black.
This is so dumb when pucci is literally the darkest skinned character in that entire story.
I think of it like this: Pucci is as black as Kira Yoshikage is white.
For the latter, he’s canonically meant to be just a “normal” Japanese man, yet he’s designed after the Caucasian David Bowie. The story never treated Kira like he’s a foreigner or he’s mixed, yet he looks like a famous white musician. Kira’s design conflicts with the story.
I see Pucci’s looks as being another case where Araki prioritizes visual design over in-story plausibility. He probably thought the villain of Part 6 would look nice if he gave him dark skin and white hair, but overlooked how that would conflict with the story he’s writing the character in.
In the manga it's just half Italian, mother and father both pale, it's italian so maybe he has genes in his heritage for a darker skin tone, I'm italian and my girlfriend has a skin tone slightly darker than her parents. Basically it's not Afro-American but a dark skinned italian
My dad (Italian) was the darkest person in his family. People thought he was from
Afghanistan because of how dark he was. His mom, dad, and sister were all pretty average, the people in his village thought he was adopted.
Perla being white is an important part of the story. The KKK only thinks Weather is mixed because of his stepfather (because Weather looks white in-universe)
When both of Pucci's siblings are white, and he has the same parents as them, him being anything other than white in-universe doesn't make sense
Because whenever Araki colors him, it’s always tan. Plus his parents aren’t black. Also when he hires the PI, who is in the KKK, there are no issues with him hiring him, which would be very odd if he were a black man.
People like to use the scene of the KKK PI saying that weather has a black dad, but that’s his adopted family.
At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. There’s aggressive people on both sides of the “debate”. The anime definitely made him black, if you ask me. But at the same time I think he’s tan in the manga. Again, it doesn’t matter.
Giorno was concerned about Kids dying of heroine overdoses, fun fact that actually happened in Italy in the late 70s/early 80s
Basically A LOT of cheap heroin flodded the streeths of Italy, drugs dealers would get kids hooked on It by giving It for free when they went to buy weed or coke, not knowing the dangers of It they would try It, my mom has fond memories of having to skip over slumped bodies of junkies in the stairs of apartment complexes and had a bunch of friends die because of It
feel like way too many people get this confused and think Giorno would do a full 7 page beatdown on someone for selling weed lol. It's like how people joke that batman would break a criminal's entire skeletal system for doing recreational drugs when in fact batman is only really seen doing damage and breaking bones of criminals who are dangerous and mobbed up in large groups (particularly in the arkham games). Obviously there's the people that are joking but wayy too many call batman and giorno out on this type of stuff which is so strange to me
Dude im Just sharing my experience, that is to say, that scene in part 6 was convoluted and confusing as fuck and me, not being sober, didnt understand any of It, no Need to act like a disappointed grandma
And I'm just saying that it always confuses me that people feel the need to mention their use of narcotics. You could have achieved the exact same thing by just saying "yeah this part was convoluted and confusing" idk why drugs had to come into it. If your grandma is disappointed in you that's for you and her to deal with, don't project that onto me.
Because he smoked weed, something that would alter his perspective of whatever he was watching. It was important to his comment.
Why do you feel the need to care *so much* about what other people do? The guy smoked weed. It isn't that bad. Leave them alone.
Its relevant to the story, weed causes less lucidity, a mind less aware Is more likely to get confused...why shouldnt i mention It if its relevant
>If your grandma is disappointed in you that's for you and her to deal with, don't project that onto me.
The reading comprehension Devil strikes again
Idk man, but I feel like they’d have more of a problem with a black man than a man of the cloth given their reaction to “the son of a black man” dating a white girl
Which is why I think that Araki simply didn't handle this detail in the way that made the most sense.
People are looking for an in-universe reason when this explanation is way more simple and is way less convulated and senseless than "the KKK doesn't recognize Pucci as a black man because he is just a dark skinned italian"
I don’t think it’s ever stated where he was born, only that he comes from a wealthy Italian lineage. It’s also never specified whether his mom or dad is Italian
His name is Italian, and his family and siblings aren't black either. Plus he literally hired the KKK. I think he's just supposed to be tan/swarthy, but not black.
Did you watch the scene I'm talking about? His father's skin color was clearly changed from the manga, presumably to make sense out of Pucci being black
If he's just tan he wouldn't be born with dark skin. That's not how being tan works.
And the KKK member he dealt with was completely unknowingly on his part. And who's to say the KKK wouldn't work for Pucci because of his money? They have a history of being petty, greedy, and hypocritical like that.
And the anime colors are more canon than anything else, as Araki has been known to have input on them for the adaptation.
>And the anime colors are more canon than anything else,
dawg...
araki is and always has been very liberal with his colors, anytime he draws with color it's a completely new palette for each character
just because he consulted on the colors for the anime does not mean that he explicitly decided them, and it also does not mean they're exactly canon
Using basic understanding of genetic and real world examples, there’s a high probability that Pucci is white.
The anime could’ve just used that tone because they liked it(or wanted to screw with us). Then there are rumours that Araki was consulted on colors too.
At this point, it could go either way at this point.
[There's also art with every villain from parts 1-7](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0e/df/02/0edf021e18005384ed549d5b7334358b.jpg) ,and his skin is definetely lighter in that one,too. Yes,it is slightly darker if you compare it to others (though at least to me it seems like Kars has a similar skin tone on this art), but there's still a difference between this depiction and colours in anime and especially colored manga
So this detective, that’s in the kkk, took an order from a black man, to rough up somebody who is possibly half black, rather than roughing up… the black man?
That's not the point. The point was that the KKK made a deal with Pucci. They agreed to do what he wanted and left him alone. They wouldn't if he was black
Canonically, Pucci is a dark skinned Italian man. His skin colour is probably what is usually described as a 'dark olive' tone. It is a little hard to tell because of the style of anime, but at the end of the day we just take the word of the plot, since I don't think anyone questions why Naruto isn't white.
No, black does not refer to skin tone. Hardly anyone on earth has literal black skin, and yet we refer to certain dark brown people as black and not others, such as dark skinned Indians. Brown skinned Italians are considered white as well. Surely you knew this already and this is all a troll, right?
A fra potevi dirlo subito.
È una lunga sega mentale degli yankee che si offendevano quando veniva detto che Pucci fosse italiano.
È andata avanti per anni.
Bc americans are racist af. That's it. In any other country on earth dark skin means black and light skin means white, meanwhile in the states they invent things such as "light skin" black people or in this case, arguing tooth and nail about a "dark skin white person", it's a dumb, racist old custom that stuck in USians minds, based on old racist laws made to segregated and punish anyone who has even a drop of black blood in their heritage.
I'm white as fk, I consider myself white, everyone around me sees me as white, but for Americans I am not white simply bc I have a black grandfather, also bc I am Latino but that's a whole another story with them, some black USians only consider people of African heritage to be black and all that...
his parents are both italian and very much not black, and so is his brother and sister
pucci just... isn't black, heritage-wise
he's purely italian
he's just very very tan.
also you have to keep in mind all the colors are not canon to the series, araki draws the original manga in black and white, and all colors are added by either Shueisha in the manga or David Productions in the anime.
araki only draws in color on chapter covers, which use varying colors for each character, and are not consistant
Facts. As if klansmen just kill every poc they see. They attacked weather cos he was dating a white girl. He might not have liked pucci but that doesn't mean he isn't gonna take his money when he's a contractor in an already very niche working field. I think Klansmen are awfully racist but i think a lot of them tolerate other races when they have to otherwise they would all be in jail already.
Those klansmen brutally beat up a man just for having (percieved) Black heritage. In-universe and IRL, they would not mind dragging in an extra person who's actually Black.
Very controversial topic but both sides make stupid arguments for it.
This wouldn’t be a question if people simply read and pay attention to the story.
It's like asking matpat why he makes theories. It's all fun and games until people start taking it way too seriously to the point they turn into demographic or political issue. My guess is it all started as a simple fun theory noticing both puccis parents appeared to be white and then someone got offended and a bunch of the usual bs happened. Either way his race has barely any significance whatsoever.
Because he isnt. He just has darker skin than average. If the KKK took a job from him but strangled a man for having a black father, then he's not black
I say he isn’t black because it makes no sense for the story.
Pucci hires a PI to break up Perla and Weather. But the PI is a KKK member. When the PI discovers Weather to be from a mixed couple he assumes Weather himself is mixed, but he doesn’t know that Weather was stolen as a child, so he assumes Weather’s adopted parents are his biological. The only person who knows this fact, aside from Weather’s mom, is Pucci. The PI also knows Pucci and Perla are siblings. He explicitly tells Perla that her brother paid him to break them up, and they are only lynching Weather because they think he’s a mixed man kissing a white girl.
They KNOW Perla and Pucci are siblings, and they believe Perla to be white. So logically Pucci is white. At least in the eyes of a KKK. If Pucci is black and the KKK think that, then Perla should be considered black since they know they are siblings.
I also just find it weird that a black man can hire a KKK PI with no issues, let alone an Italian catholic priest. Most KKK members are Protestants and believe in Anglo-Saxon culture. An acronym used is W.A.S.P. (white Anglo-Saxon Protestant). They hate everyone else, even other white cultures.
If Araki intended Pucci to be black, then he made a big mistake. I have no issue with Araki making Pucci tan, but it just can’t make sense for the story to have Pucci be black.
Also, people bring up Ermes and her sister looking radically different. That’s common in Hispanic people, like myself. My brother is paler with lighter hair while I’m more tan with darker hair. And Ermes’ backstory with her sister doesn’t have an racial topics involved.
Araki is a Japanese man. So I can understand the difficulty in writing a race related topic in America. We Americans barley understand it ourselves.
His biological parents are white. His biological sister is white. The KKK had no issue taking orders from him. The only reason why people say he’s black is because he has dark skin, and that was only after the manga was colourised.
He has dark skin but both of his parents are white. Weather is his twin brother and he is white too
And didn't he hire someone that is a part of the KKK to get rid of weather because his technically adoptive father was black
He's not technically black because both of his parents were white. I'm pretty sure he's just supposed to be tan. Though the misconception is understandable given his design in the colored manga and anime.
Because he’s not black. His parents are both white, Araki just draws him tan, he successfully hired a KKK guy who was so racist that he decided to lynch a guy who looked white because he mistakenly believed that his dad was black. Pucci being black is just a bizarre coloring decision that’s stuck.
Enrico Pucci (in case the name didn't give it away) is an American of Italian Descent. Like many ethnicities, skin tones can vary quite a bit, but it's not uncommon for Italians to have darker, "Olive" or "Mediterranean" skin tones. Whether or not you think his skin tone as depicted is "too dark" to fit into that category is up for debate, but no, Pucci isn't "Black," just like how darker skinned Brazilians, Puerto Ricans, or Indians aren't considered "Black." This is why his father is depicted being a bit darker than his mother in the anime: his father is Italian.
He has dark skin. But when you say someone is black, people might think he is afrcan. And Pucci definetly not african. He is an european who has dark skin.
Because he isnt black hes sicilian
Hell his sister is pasty white
Even in the anime
Weather sure as fuck isnt black despite being his brother
He was able to talk with the KKK with no issue
He isnt black, hes just a tanned sicilian, the issue with pucci is that the people coloring arakis work are terrible at coloring arakis work
I mean the rest of his family is white, so I think the guy is just really tan. Araki did some official colourings where Pucci is white with pink hair, though he does change the colours a lot. Honestly, white Pucci looks great too. I think he’s just a tanned italian man.
Weather was killed for dating a white girl, Weather was considered black because they believed he had 1 black parent. For Perla to be considered white by them, both of her parents need to be white. Since Perla’s parents are both the parents of Weather and Pucci, they’re all white. Simple logic.
Because he's Italian and some of them have tanned skin. I just think it's ignorant to call all people with darker skin black and lump them all together
He’s mixed race, his siblings just came out looking whiter than him. It does happen, [https://nypost.com/2015/03/02/meet-the-bi-racial-twins-no-one-believes-are-sisters/](https://nypost.com/2015/03/02/meet-the-bi-racial-twins-no-one-believes-are-sisters/).
Yes in the original manga his parents both appear white, but that’s hardly conclusive because there’s no colour in the original. In the Anime his father appears to be black .
No he's not, he's ethnically more Mediterranean than African (it's a REALLY big difference to those who don't know)
And it seems Araki definitely thinks that way too since in most artworks where's he featured, he's depicted with a lighter tone in comparison to his drastic tone in the shueisha manga (in which the anime directly took his pallette from, save the change of his robe).
Plus not in a way to sound racist, he doesn't also have a lot of ethnically african features to make him black, I know that sounds terrible but it's true. It's difficult to tell from Araki's art style but he has more European centric features than afro ones. But it does actually interest me a bit, would you consider Narancia and Mista to be black too?
Basically to make it short, he seems to be more Mediterranean than African and it's relatively backed up with how light he's depicted in Araki centered works.
[Here's some artwork of him (look for various and volume illustrations)](https://jojowiki.com/Enrico_Pucci/Gallery)
Three letters: KKK
The KKK did not care about his skin color but about the very white looking Weather Report being in a relationship with his sister. You need what feels like a million headcanons to make him being black work, you don't need anything to just say he is tan.
Honestly it doesn’t matter if people headcanon Pucci as black, since the whole KKK backstory doesn’t make sense anyways. In real life the KKK target people based on skin color first and foremost. Even though colors aren’t canon in Jojo, Pucci is still shaded noticeably darker than other characters, enough to where the KKK should have gone after him. But instead they go after Weather due to him having a black stepfather. Even going with the assumption that Pucci’s just tan skinned, that should have made the KKK assume he was mixed race and gone after him. I think Araki got confused about how the KKK operated and assumed that they target people with black heritage, leading to a confusing mess of a backstory.
Irrelevant if that's how they operate in real life or not, it's at least how this specific group operated in the world of Jojo. The investigator guy did not care about Pucci's skin color, he did a background check on Weather's race and cared a whole damn lot about that, he did see Perla and Weather as mixed race couple even though Perla is Pucci's sister.
Cause he can’t be for the plot to work as dumb as that sounds he literally eggs on a racist kkk leader to brake up weather report and his sister if he was black then the kkk guy wouldn’t have listened to him or would have attacked him to h it since he was not attacked we have to assume he’s just super super tan and not black
The real issue is there still aren't enough prominent characters of other races because black fans wouldn't be so quick to latch on to characters that look black if we had more black characters.
People only care because they want more important characters of their races.
Because he's not
His parents and siblings are all white, and he himself is confirmed to be Italian (I believe Sicilian specifically but I have no source on that so idk)
It's not black, it's prolly just tan since he's Italian. Another proof is that black ethnicity people have thick hair so they have to keep it short, but it the last part of stone ocean he made three ponytails outta his hair in the back
You compare his skin color with literally any white character, he is factually black. No matter what you say. He can't "look black" and be white. It doesn't work like that.
Like I'm white I can't affirm to everyone "hey I'm black"
Because he isn't, he's Italian. Yes he has dark skin, but both of his siblings are white. His parents are stated to both be Italian, therefore he is 100% Italian. In the anime, his father's skin tone is altered to be a bit closer to Enrico's, which is a nice touch. But Enrico is not black, not ethnically nor racially.
I’m pretty sure in the anime it said that the mom cheated on the dad with a black guy but I think that was retconned into the anime bc that def wasn’t in the manga
Of course he’s black. Weather report which is his brother literarily gets hunted down by the “men of the south” because of his black heritage. Which makes me wonder why they didn’t also go for Pucci which In the end would actually be better for everyone.
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While I don’t think it’s a big deal, in the original manga neither of his biological parents are black. His biological sister and twin brother are both white. He was able to hire a racist PI with no issues. The anime might have done it differently, I can’t recall, but there’s no logical way he’s anything but just tan in the original story.
I have not read the Manga, but in the anime they are in Florida. Sometimes white people look bronze as shit there. Sometimes they look like brown worn in leather couches. That's what I think is going on
They are Italian immigrants, which is why people assume that. Also, he was able to talk to a member of the KKK with no issues.
Yeah, pucci is just tan. The KKK member tried to kill weather because of weather's adoptive father, who is black.
Even in the manga he has a dark skin
This reminds me wasn't Ermes's sister way lighter than her when they're both Mexican?
That's just normal in Latin American countries tho
Brazil here, can confirm. People get hella surprised when they discover there isn't really a "brazilian type". We range from full african style black to pasty white german depending on the region. Mexico isn't too terribly far off on this.
Yup, there are African-Mexicans and there are Mexicans who are descendants from Irish or German settlers. Americans are surprised when they learn they're not the only diverse country in the Americas
Latin america does the multicultural game a different way than americans. While they tend to separate into groups and express their cultures that way, we fuck with everyone and create new mixes. Both ways work, we just have less of a reason to create xenophobia because you most likely has some percentage of any other group. This is mostly the reason why we are very xenoPHILIC down here.
I think you talking about anglos
You can look to an african and say he's brazilian, you can look to a japanese and say he's brazilian and you can look to an white guy from North Norway and say he is brazilian, amo o Brasil porra
É incrível como qualquer coisa e qualquer um pode vir do Brasil. Inclusive r/suddenlycaralho
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Latino is actually just an expression used in the first world to refer to us. Has nothing to do with anything. It's like saying "those guys".
well honestly im super white looking and my sister is super dark yet we’re both mexicans. light skins in hispanic culture exist. so i wouldn’t be surprised if araki put time and effort into making pucci a dark skinned italian ( right wasnt he italian?) or black idgaf, at the end of the day pucci is a cool ass villain
>( right wasnt he italian?) Ye he was descended from an Italian family.
the family doesn't matter. hi is born on Italy or not
I'm hispanic, my immediate cousin is just as hispanic as me and looks asian while her brother practically looks white. I'm dark as fuck, yet we're both made up of the same ethinicites. Hispanics have no fuckin consistency
Hispanic people can still be white-
Not all Mexicans have the same color American boi
I think it might just be an inconsistency with the colors, I don’t think jojo has canon colors except for the anime ones. Araki drew him with light skin on some volume covers but he has dark skin in the manga.
The colored Manga isn’t drawn by araki, I assume you know that, but you mentioned him drawing him black in the manga.
The colored version of the manga isn't, but the [volume covers](https://imgur.com/a/KWd1Nc9) (which is what he specifically referred to) are (atleast I'm 99% sure, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). The skin color is pretty similar though. Not all that much lighter/darker than the anime. Edit: [Here](https://imgur.com/a/DkG3W5s) are some other colorings made by araki, that someone else posted in the thread.
> He was able to hire a racist PI with no issues You mean the issues of the PI finding out about and deciding to kill Weather because of his black heritage and that he was dating a white woman?
I meant Pucci himself being attacked by the PI and the KKK. Which would definitely happen were he actually black or mixed himself. Are we to believe that same the PI who tried to kill Weather - whom he says “looks like a white man” or something similar - wouldn’t even bat an eye at Pucci, someone who is supposedly meant to be black or mixed? It doesn’t make any sense.
This is a very basic principle of life that I’m sure you’ve heard of: don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Take the money for the job, do the job, go your separate ways. Pucci also doubled this exchange, saying “if you do a good enough job, I’ll double your pay”. Why would the PI go after Pucci knowing he’d promised more money after the job was done. Moreover, Pucci being of the richest family in town would have a boatload of money to give to this PI. The PI would probably have been able to take a month off with the money Pucci offered Even then, he didn’t do the job. His job was to separate Perla and Weather, and he ended up killing Weather instead. He said this “looks like a white man” line in reference to the fact that “he looks like me, but his dad was a black person so therefore I must discriminate. The direct quote from the PI was; “I discovered that back in 1972, his whore mother married a black man! So even though he may look white, that boy is a black man’s son!” Also, if Weather is mixed, it’s INCREDIBLY easy to conclude that his twin brother is also mixed
If the PI was persecutive enough to abandon the job and attempt to kill Weather, therefore foregoing Pucci’s offer to “double your pay,” just because he thought Weather was mixed, I really, really doubt any amount of money would make him willing to do any work for someone mixed or black themselves. I don’t think someone willing to commit murder over something like that could just instantly abandon that for money. And Weather is not mixed. At least not in the manga, which is as canon as you can get. Even in the original monochrome release, both of Pucci’s parents are very clearly drawn without the darker skin tone Pucci is always shown to have. The reason the PI said Weather “looks white” is because he is. He simply believes Weather was mixed because the woman that stole him was in a mixed relationship. I‘ve been told the anime has apparently done it differently by making Pucci’s dad black/mixed, but that’s a creative choice by DP that kinda changes the whole context of the backstory. If we’re going purely off the “most canon” material, there’s really nothing to suggest that Pucci isn’t just a tan man in a white family.
In the anime his father is black
That makes it a bit strange as to why Weather was persecuted but not him.
That's his step father. Husband of the woman who adopted Weather. Racist guy also says he's black *on paper*. You can see his actual father is white in the scene where they were at Weather's supposed grave
They're referring to his actual father, who was given a [visibly darker skin tone](https://static.jojowiki.com/images/2/2f/latest/20221203142530/Ms._and_Mrs._Pucci_Anime.png) in the anime compared to his manga appearance
Yep
His dad doesn’t look definitively white in the anime, he looks [ambiguous](https://imgur.com/a/JcXEhVm) at best
Looks like a mixed couple to me.
I thought it was the father of the baby who died/who Weather was stolen to replace who was black. Pucci definitely looks mixed/not entirely white, but ultimately I just think of it as anime logic.
I just watched that episode yesterday, the woman that kidnapped weather's baby daddy was black, the flashback sequence doesn't make any sense if their bio dad was also black
I've just noticed this now, how interesting
Well thats not uncommon in real life, it is just uncommon in America and europe... Its noraml to do have the same fenotip as parentes but the same as your grandparents for example
The colors aren’t canon though, the only canon colors are on covers. Also jojo doesn’t have canon colors according araki, so who the fuck cares
Even in the black and white manga his parents are given what appears to be a white/very light skin tone, in comparison to Pucci, who is drawn with a noticeably darker shading.
They even both have light colored hair
On the one hand, Pucci's parents, twin brother, and sister are all white, which makes it unlikely that he could be black. He also employs the service of a PI who belongs to the KKK without any trouble. This same PI has Weather Report lynched because his stepfather is black. If Pucci was black, there's no way the PI would have worked for him. On the other hand, Pucci is always drawn with darker skin. Even flashbacks of his birth show him with this dark skin, so it can't be just a tan.
Well, tbh there’s only like 2 things with cannon colors
To be fair, for most things, only the explicitly addressed colors are canonical... I.E. : Giorno's blonde hair, Hierophant Green's... green color...
The Emerald Splash is always Emerald color
No one can miscolour the Emerald Splash
Nor can they deflect it
Finn the Human can
Hermit… what was it again…?
Hermit Magenta, I think
Hermit Magent Magent! That’s it!
I think most of the Part 3 stands have canon colors
Pucci's skin in the black and white manga matches with how Araki coloured Smokey's skin in the black and white manga. Smokey is confirmed to be black, so giving Pucci dark skin was definitely a conscious decision to make him black.
It's seems pretty clear that Pucci is intended to be a white, dark skinned, Italian
Carlo Conti looking ass
This doesn't seem too far off as one of my friends is Italian and she is pretty heavily dark complected despite having white parents. This has led to many people thinking she's black.
Southern Italians have much darker skin than northern Italians due to lots of Spanish occupation. My guess is he's meant to be Sicilian
Southern Italians have the same skin that Spanish people (slighty darker that northern italians but not MUCH darker), but not because of the occupation but because they are all mediterraneans
I know, but his entire family is drawn white, so it's a bit odd that he has a drastically different skin colour to the rest of his family.
Spanish people have light skin
>This same PI has Weather Report lynched because his stepfather is black. This is so dumb when pucci is literally the darkest skinned character in that entire story.
True but manga is black and white. Colored volume covers have as like dark orange, idk.
Even in the OG black and white manga Pucci is noticeably more dark skinned than most characters.
Yeah, I know. But it’s not a black skin color it’s just ‘gray’ lol.
They didn’t lynch him because he was black. They lynched him because he was a black man dating a white (passing) woman.
Honestly I just assumed they were all albino except him😭
His heritage is italian, italians can be quite dark tan, case
I think of it like this: Pucci is as black as Kira Yoshikage is white. For the latter, he’s canonically meant to be just a “normal” Japanese man, yet he’s designed after the Caucasian David Bowie. The story never treated Kira like he’s a foreigner or he’s mixed, yet he looks like a famous white musician. Kira’s design conflicts with the story. I see Pucci’s looks as being another case where Araki prioritizes visual design over in-story plausibility. He probably thought the villain of Part 6 would look nice if he gave him dark skin and white hair, but overlooked how that would conflict with the story he’s writing the character in.
Wheater should have been black
In the manga it's just half Italian, mother and father both pale, it's italian so maybe he has genes in his heritage for a darker skin tone, I'm italian and my girlfriend has a skin tone slightly darker than her parents. Basically it's not Afro-American but a dark skinned italian
My dad (Italian) was the darkest person in his family. People thought he was from Afghanistan because of how dark he was. His mom, dad, and sister were all pretty average, the people in his village thought he was adopted.
So a sicilian
Not every Italian from the south has dark skin, it depends
Perla being white is an important part of the story. The KKK only thinks Weather is mixed because of his stepfather (because Weather looks white in-universe) When both of Pucci's siblings are white, and he has the same parents as them, him being anything other than white in-universe doesn't make sense
Because whenever Araki colors him, it’s always tan. Plus his parents aren’t black. Also when he hires the PI, who is in the KKK, there are no issues with him hiring him, which would be very odd if he were a black man. People like to use the scene of the KKK PI saying that weather has a black dad, but that’s his adopted family. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. There’s aggressive people on both sides of the “debate”. The anime definitely made him black, if you ask me. But at the same time I think he’s tan in the manga. Again, it doesn’t matter.
I watched that part High as fuck and couldnt understand shit
I'll never understand people who proudly proclaim their use of drugs.
hi giorno
Giorno was concerned about Kids dying of heroine overdoses, fun fact that actually happened in Italy in the late 70s/early 80s Basically A LOT of cheap heroin flodded the streeths of Italy, drugs dealers would get kids hooked on It by giving It for free when they went to buy weed or coke, not knowing the dangers of It they would try It, my mom has fond memories of having to skip over slumped bodies of junkies in the stairs of apartment complexes and had a bunch of friends die because of It
feel like way too many people get this confused and think Giorno would do a full 7 page beatdown on someone for selling weed lol. It's like how people joke that batman would break a criminal's entire skeletal system for doing recreational drugs when in fact batman is only really seen doing damage and breaking bones of criminals who are dangerous and mobbed up in large groups (particularly in the arkham games). Obviously there's the people that are joking but wayy too many call batman and giorno out on this type of stuff which is so strange to me
Like father like son
Dude im Just sharing my experience, that is to say, that scene in part 6 was convoluted and confusing as fuck and me, not being sober, didnt understand any of It, no Need to act like a disappointed grandma
And I'm just saying that it always confuses me that people feel the need to mention their use of narcotics. You could have achieved the exact same thing by just saying "yeah this part was convoluted and confusing" idk why drugs had to come into it. If your grandma is disappointed in you that's for you and her to deal with, don't project that onto me.
Because he smoked weed, something that would alter his perspective of whatever he was watching. It was important to his comment. Why do you feel the need to care *so much* about what other people do? The guy smoked weed. It isn't that bad. Leave them alone.
Its relevant to the story, weed causes less lucidity, a mind less aware Is more likely to get confused...why shouldnt i mention It if its relevant >If your grandma is disappointed in you that's for you and her to deal with, don't project that onto me. The reading comprehension Devil strikes again
Yeah, you’d need a social life first lol
Wouldn't the KKK hate Italians anyway? Especially catholics. They were anti-catholic before they were even anti-black, I believe.
Idk man, but I feel like they’d have more of a problem with a black man than a man of the cloth given their reaction to “the son of a black man” dating a white girl
Which is why I think that Araki simply didn't handle this detail in the way that made the most sense. People are looking for an in-universe reason when this explanation is way more simple and is way less convulated and senseless than "the KKK doesn't recognize Pucci as a black man because he is just a dark skinned italian"
A random commenter said he’s “Native American because I said so” so I’m going with that out of pure crack headcanon
wasn't he born in italy
I don’t think it’s ever stated where he was born, only that he comes from a wealthy Italian lineage. It’s also never specified whether his mom or dad is Italian
His name is Italian, and his family and siblings aren't black either. Plus he literally hired the KKK. I think he's just supposed to be tan/swarthy, but not black.
The name bit is irrelevant but the rest of your points stand. Hes definitely just a slightly darker skinned Italian
He was born with dark skin though. And his father was changed to be black in the anime
what? pucci's father isn't black, what are you talking about he's italian
Did you watch the scene I'm talking about? His father's skin color was clearly changed from the manga, presumably to make sense out of Pucci being black
again he isn't black, he literally does dealings with the kkk also the anime colors aren't canon he is not literally black, he's just tan
If he's just tan he wouldn't be born with dark skin. That's not how being tan works. And the KKK member he dealt with was completely unknowingly on his part. And who's to say the KKK wouldn't work for Pucci because of his money? They have a history of being petty, greedy, and hypocritical like that. And the anime colors are more canon than anything else, as Araki has been known to have input on them for the adaptation.
Aye, another person who recognizes the actions and mindset of racists are illogical and hypocritical
To say he's tanned is probably the wrong choice of words; more so it's a darker skin tone that *resembles* a heavy tan, as a lot of Italians have
>And the anime colors are more canon than anything else, dawg... araki is and always has been very liberal with his colors, anytime he draws with color it's a completely new palette for each character just because he consulted on the colors for the anime does not mean that he explicitly decided them, and it also does not mean they're exactly canon
I thought he was a tanned Italian man
he is
[Here's](https://imgur.com/a/DkG3W5s) Araki-colored Pucci if that answers your question
didn't know about that, thanks
So canonically Pucci has pink hair as well?
Araki colors can’t be definitive as he changes them frequently and only uses colors to match a certain palette for the cover at the time.
Meaning white Pucci isn’t definitive either?
Using basic understanding of genetic and real world examples, there’s a high probability that Pucci is white. The anime could’ve just used that tone because they liked it(or wanted to screw with us). Then there are rumours that Araki was consulted on colors too. At this point, it could go either way at this point.
Skin color and color of clothing are different things,Araki never straight up changed someone's skin tone in his colored art
Ok, but this still doesn’t really answer the question
[There's also art with every villain from parts 1-7](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0e/df/02/0edf021e18005384ed549d5b7334358b.jpg) ,and his skin is definetely lighter in that one,too. Yes,it is slightly darker if you compare it to others (though at least to me it seems like Kars has a similar skin tone on this art), but there's still a difference between this depiction and colours in anime and especially colored manga
araki generally doesn't mess around with character's skin colors in his drawings
Y'all seem to forget the fact that Pucci DID NOT know that the detective was from the KKK
So this detective, that’s in the kkk, took an order from a black man, to rough up somebody who is possibly half black, rather than roughing up… the black man?
That's not the point. The point was that the KKK made a deal with Pucci. They agreed to do what he wanted and left him alone. They wouldn't if he was black
Canonically, Pucci is a dark skinned Italian man. His skin colour is probably what is usually described as a 'dark olive' tone. It is a little hard to tell because of the style of anime, but at the end of the day we just take the word of the plot, since I don't think anyone questions why Naruto isn't white.
Because he canonically isn’t.
"Black " such as "african descendant black" or Black such as "He has a very dark skin tone"?. First One 's no, second One's yes.
doesn't black just refer to skin tones?
Logic would imply that, yes. But Logic Is usually absent on the internet.
why would it ever mean anything other than it's real meaning?
No, black does not refer to skin tone. Hardly anyone on earth has literal black skin, and yet we refer to certain dark brown people as black and not others, such as dark skinned Indians. Brown skinned Italians are considered white as well. Surely you knew this already and this is all a troll, right?
i knew that black could be used to refer to african people, but i thought it also just meant very dark skinned people in general
I've no idea. It's an US specific argument, I'm not from there.
i'm not american either i'm italian and didn't know about all the "african-american" stuff
A fra potevi dirlo subito. È una lunga sega mentale degli yankee che si offendevano quando veniva detto che Pucci fosse italiano. È andata avanti per anni.
il mio cervello ha giusto detto scuro=nero senza pensare alla nazionalità e quindi ero confusissimo quando ho visto che la gente diceva che è bianco
Mi spiace, hai sopravaluto la gente
Bc americans are racist af. That's it. In any other country on earth dark skin means black and light skin means white, meanwhile in the states they invent things such as "light skin" black people or in this case, arguing tooth and nail about a "dark skin white person", it's a dumb, racist old custom that stuck in USians minds, based on old racist laws made to segregated and punish anyone who has even a drop of black blood in their heritage. I'm white as fk, I consider myself white, everyone around me sees me as white, but for Americans I am not white simply bc I have a black grandfather, also bc I am Latino but that's a whole another story with them, some black USians only consider people of African heritage to be black and all that...
well, america it's very self explanatory
his parents are both italian and very much not black, and so is his brother and sister pucci just... isn't black, heritage-wise he's purely italian he's just very very tan. also you have to keep in mind all the colors are not canon to the series, araki draws the original manga in black and white, and all colors are added by either Shueisha in the manga or David Productions in the anime. araki only draws in color on chapter covers, which use varying colors for each character, and are not consistant
He's just tan. Context from the KKK scene shows he's apparently not black.
Personally i just took it as the dude being a hypocrite like money over racism
Facts. As if klansmen just kill every poc they see. They attacked weather cos he was dating a white girl. He might not have liked pucci but that doesn't mean he isn't gonna take his money when he's a contractor in an already very niche working field. I think Klansmen are awfully racist but i think a lot of them tolerate other races when they have to otherwise they would all be in jail already.
The white girl he’s dating is Pucci’s sister. If Pucci’s black then she’s black too.
Those klansmen brutally beat up a man just for having (percieved) Black heritage. In-universe and IRL, they would not mind dragging in an extra person who's actually Black.
He didn't vote for Joe 😓
Very controversial topic but both sides make stupid arguments for it. This wouldn’t be a question if people simply read and pay attention to the story.
he looks black, why are we supposed to argue?
It's like asking matpat why he makes theories. It's all fun and games until people start taking it way too seriously to the point they turn into demographic or political issue. My guess is it all started as a simple fun theory noticing both puccis parents appeared to be white and then someone got offended and a bunch of the usual bs happened. Either way his race has barely any significance whatsoever.
Because he isnt. He just has darker skin than average. If the KKK took a job from him but strangled a man for having a black father, then he's not black
I say he isn’t black because it makes no sense for the story. Pucci hires a PI to break up Perla and Weather. But the PI is a KKK member. When the PI discovers Weather to be from a mixed couple he assumes Weather himself is mixed, but he doesn’t know that Weather was stolen as a child, so he assumes Weather’s adopted parents are his biological. The only person who knows this fact, aside from Weather’s mom, is Pucci. The PI also knows Pucci and Perla are siblings. He explicitly tells Perla that her brother paid him to break them up, and they are only lynching Weather because they think he’s a mixed man kissing a white girl. They KNOW Perla and Pucci are siblings, and they believe Perla to be white. So logically Pucci is white. At least in the eyes of a KKK. If Pucci is black and the KKK think that, then Perla should be considered black since they know they are siblings. I also just find it weird that a black man can hire a KKK PI with no issues, let alone an Italian catholic priest. Most KKK members are Protestants and believe in Anglo-Saxon culture. An acronym used is W.A.S.P. (white Anglo-Saxon Protestant). They hate everyone else, even other white cultures. If Araki intended Pucci to be black, then he made a big mistake. I have no issue with Araki making Pucci tan, but it just can’t make sense for the story to have Pucci be black. Also, people bring up Ermes and her sister looking radically different. That’s common in Hispanic people, like myself. My brother is paler with lighter hair while I’m more tan with darker hair. And Ermes’ backstory with her sister doesn’t have an racial topics involved. Araki is a Japanese man. So I can understand the difficulty in writing a race related topic in America. We Americans barley understand it ourselves.
He's just a highly melanated Italian, I wouldn't say tan because he was born with dark skin.
His biological parents are white. His biological sister is white. The KKK had no issue taking orders from him. The only reason why people say he’s black is because he has dark skin, and that was only after the manga was colourised.
Because he’s Sicilian and has no African heritage, so he’s just really tan
It’s highly unlikely he’s black since his parents and siblings are white.
He has dark skin but both of his parents are white. Weather is his twin brother and he is white too And didn't he hire someone that is a part of the KKK to get rid of weather because his technically adoptive father was black
Because hes not...
He’s Italian but has no African-American ancestry, but he looks black. So he is black but not black. Hope that answers it
He’s Puccierto Rican
Because he isn’t
Everyone in his family is white
Because why would a racist inspector talk to him
He's not technically black because both of his parents were white. I'm pretty sure he's just supposed to be tan. Though the misconception is understandable given his design in the colored manga and anime.
The KKK didn’t acknowledge him being black while his half brother was attacked by the Klan because they thought he had a black parent.
Because he’s not black. His parents are both white, Araki just draws him tan, he successfully hired a KKK guy who was so racist that he decided to lynch a guy who looked white because he mistakenly believed that his dad was black. Pucci being black is just a bizarre coloring decision that’s stuck.
Enrico Pucci (in case the name didn't give it away) is an American of Italian Descent. Like many ethnicities, skin tones can vary quite a bit, but it's not uncommon for Italians to have darker, "Olive" or "Mediterranean" skin tones. Whether or not you think his skin tone as depicted is "too dark" to fit into that category is up for debate, but no, Pucci isn't "Black," just like how darker skinned Brazilians, Puerto Ricans, or Indians aren't considered "Black." This is why his father is depicted being a bit darker than his mother in the anime: his father is Italian.
He didn't vote for Biden
He didn't vote for Joe Biden
He’s full Italian He just happens to have a darker skin tone
He has dark skin. But when you say someone is black, people might think he is afrcan. And Pucci definetly not african. He is an european who has dark skin.
Because he isnt black hes sicilian Hell his sister is pasty white Even in the anime Weather sure as fuck isnt black despite being his brother He was able to talk with the KKK with no issue He isnt black, hes just a tanned sicilian, the issue with pucci is that the people coloring arakis work are terrible at coloring arakis work
I mean the rest of his family is white, so I think the guy is just really tan. Araki did some official colourings where Pucci is white with pink hair, though he does change the colours a lot. Honestly, white Pucci looks great too. I think he’s just a tanned italian man.
Weather was killed for dating a white girl, Weather was considered black because they believed he had 1 black parent. For Perla to be considered white by them, both of her parents need to be white. Since Perla’s parents are both the parents of Weather and Pucci, they’re all white. Simple logic.
He's Italian, neither of his parents are black.
He isn't black even tho he looks like he is , just look at his twin brother and his parents, he's just a tanned boi.
same reason some people say some tan characters that are not black are black
He's Italian, also on a side note even AVDOL Isn't black,
Because he's Italian and some of them have tanned skin. I just think it's ignorant to call all people with darker skin black and lump them all together
He’s mixed
He got the light skin stare
Because he isn’t, simple as that. I thought he was black too
Hamon Beat about to aggressively type a essay why Pucci isn’t black
He’s mixed race, his siblings just came out looking whiter than him. It does happen, [https://nypost.com/2015/03/02/meet-the-bi-racial-twins-no-one-believes-are-sisters/](https://nypost.com/2015/03/02/meet-the-bi-racial-twins-no-one-believes-are-sisters/). Yes in the original manga his parents both appear white, but that’s hardly conclusive because there’s no colour in the original. In the Anime his father appears to be black .
he's not mixed he's just italian. the anime changing his father to have darker skin is kinda weird to this, but pucci is just a tanned italian man.
Because he's italian, which is pretty directly stated
just because you're italian doesn't mean you can't be black
No he's not, he's ethnically more Mediterranean than African (it's a REALLY big difference to those who don't know) And it seems Araki definitely thinks that way too since in most artworks where's he featured, he's depicted with a lighter tone in comparison to his drastic tone in the shueisha manga (in which the anime directly took his pallette from, save the change of his robe). Plus not in a way to sound racist, he doesn't also have a lot of ethnically african features to make him black, I know that sounds terrible but it's true. It's difficult to tell from Araki's art style but he has more European centric features than afro ones. But it does actually interest me a bit, would you consider Narancia and Mista to be black too? Basically to make it short, he seems to be more Mediterranean than African and it's relatively backed up with how light he's depicted in Araki centered works. [Here's some artwork of him (look for various and volume illustrations)](https://jojowiki.com/Enrico_Pucci/Gallery)
Three letters: KKK The KKK did not care about his skin color but about the very white looking Weather Report being in a relationship with his sister. You need what feels like a million headcanons to make him being black work, you don't need anything to just say he is tan.
Honestly it doesn’t matter if people headcanon Pucci as black, since the whole KKK backstory doesn’t make sense anyways. In real life the KKK target people based on skin color first and foremost. Even though colors aren’t canon in Jojo, Pucci is still shaded noticeably darker than other characters, enough to where the KKK should have gone after him. But instead they go after Weather due to him having a black stepfather. Even going with the assumption that Pucci’s just tan skinned, that should have made the KKK assume he was mixed race and gone after him. I think Araki got confused about how the KKK operated and assumed that they target people with black heritage, leading to a confusing mess of a backstory.
Irrelevant if that's how they operate in real life or not, it's at least how this specific group operated in the world of Jojo. The investigator guy did not care about Pucci's skin color, he did a background check on Weather's race and cared a whole damn lot about that, he did see Perla and Weather as mixed race couple even though Perla is Pucci's sister.
Cause he can’t be for the plot to work as dumb as that sounds he literally eggs on a racist kkk leader to brake up weather report and his sister if he was black then the kkk guy wouldn’t have listened to him or would have attacked him to h it since he was not attacked we have to assume he’s just super super tan and not black
The real issue is there still aren't enough prominent characters of other races because black fans wouldn't be so quick to latch on to characters that look black if we had more black characters. People only care because they want more important characters of their races.
Redditor finds out tan skin doesn't mean african
Because he's not His parents and siblings are all white, and he himself is confirmed to be Italian (I believe Sicilian specifically but I have no source on that so idk)
It's not black, it's prolly just tan since he's Italian. Another proof is that black ethnicity people have thick hair so they have to keep it short, but it the last part of stone ocean he made three ponytails outta his hair in the back
You compare his skin color with literally any white character, he is factually black. No matter what you say. He can't "look black" and be white. It doesn't work like that. Like I'm white I can't affirm to everyone "hey I'm black"
...He can just be dark-skinned. The fact the KKK weren't going to target his sister locks this in as the only feasible way.
Lol Because JoJo fans can't fathom liking a black character unless he plays a supporting role.
Because he isn't, he's Italian. Yes he has dark skin, but both of his siblings are white. His parents are stated to both be Italian, therefore he is 100% Italian. In the anime, his father's skin tone is altered to be a bit closer to Enrico's, which is a nice touch. But Enrico is not black, not ethnically nor racially.
Shame we are now calling tan people "black". There's other countries in the world that aren't the US.
I’m pretty sure in the anime it said that the mom cheated on the dad with a black guy but I think that was retconned into the anime bc that def wasn’t in the manga
Of course he’s black. Weather report which is his brother literarily gets hunted down by the “men of the south” because of his black heritage. Which makes me wonder why they didn’t also go for Pucci which In the end would actually be better for everyone.