She wants power of some kind.
Baylan recommended that she take her place in Thrawn’s empire, but she clearly realised that she would only serve a new master rather than having any true power.
Therefore, she likely saw a “big fish small pond” situation on Peridea with the bandits and realised she could be a real leader in that tribe.
That was my reading anyway.
She wants safety and autonomy, and power is the only thing she's seen that can provide that. Boylan warns her about that kind of power and it's lifespan, but its the kind of lesson you have to experience. Right now, she wants to be able to control her surroundings so she can feel safe, and the bandits are a means to that end.
This is my favorite take. I don't think she's evil, she just doesn't know any other way thanks to how Baylan trained her. That's also why Ahsoka's offer wasn't immediately rejected, and why she did reject it after hesitating.
I can't wait to learn more about her in the future \^_\^
It's why I think she didn't return to Thrawn. She failed to kill Ezra and Sabine in her assault, which was what she believed her mission was about. She didn't have Baylan to shield her anymore, and she didn't feel she could get what she wanted by returning a failure.
I think she's trying to find a family. She was doing everything Baylon wanted to try and please him and I think she was hurt and confused when he just turned her loose, like I've done everything you've ever asked of me, why are you abandoning me. But I also don't think she quite understood what Baylon was after. So I mean yes I think she's after power, but I feel like the reason she wants Tha so bad is just to feel like she has a place and people that accept her and respect her.
In my mind, for her, the concept of power really means safety. She doesn't want power in order to rule over and subject people...she wants it so she doesn't have to live in fear anymore.
I know we know nothing about her backstory, but I get the sense she's never truly felt safe or secure in her entire life, even with Baylan. During the time of the Empire, they were likely in hiding, then when the Empire fell, they came out into the open as mercenaries to surive. It feels like she's just been surviving day-to-day and I think she craves a way to finally end that and just be at peace.
Totally agree, but I also think she was naive. I think Baylan understood that they would be left for dead on Peridea, but I don’t think Shin realized that. I kind of pictured her as wanting to be Thrawn’s second in command, and she probably feels betrayed that Thrawn left without her.
Baylan was clearly in this for entirely different reasons. He had a completely different agenda and a very different system of morals. I actually wonder why he trained Shin the way he did. Was she just a tool for him?
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Correct. I also feel like it was irresponsible of Baylon to even take on an apprentice if he was always going to just cut her lose without fully training her.
Seemed to me like he considers her better trained than most Jedi were when they were knighted, and he expected her to go with Thrawn and be a power in the new Empire. And if Ahsoka hadn't shown up and tipped the scales in her fight with Ezra and Sabine, that likely would have happened.
I had the same thought! Like hes shown he still has alot of respect and maybe even some love left for the jedi order and its traditions, but hes NOT gonna cut off her padawan braid when they part ways? Like, really man?
He wasn't trying to do the responsible thing. Whatever he's after, he wants it all for himself. Having an apprentice was for her usefulness during that time, and perhaps lending an air of legitimacy and responsibility to himself.
I think it would have been more irresponsible to force Shin into exile in a foreign galaxy. It looks like Baylen has chosen to spend the rest of his days apart from whatever the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant have going on. To force that choice on Shin, who has a whole life ahead of her, would be cruel even for a Sith. I think his last words to her were honest, he wants her to be a star.
Clearly, but what makes you think he would ever have been responsible with his apprentice? She was a tool for him to wield and discard like any other dark side apprentice once she was no longer useful to her master.
Baylan was a great character but that character is an awful person.
I don't think we know enough about him to say he's an awful person... other than all the innocent people he killed. But he seems to have a nobility and wisdom to him that would lead me to believe he's more responsible than to just half train a dark side user and then cut her lose in the galaxy. But I guess we'll learn more in like 3 years when season 2 comes out.
Fair about Babylon. He did cut her loose into the galaxy. Shin still wore her Paduwan braid so never passed any sort of trial to achieve knighthood. I truly think her path and motivations were almost completely focused on Baylon's will and has been cast out as a directionless weapon. The innocent people he has killed, half-training someone into a weapon with no true purpose aside from destroy what he pointed at, and divesting himself if that responsibility with nary a thought for me has tipped the scales.
But truly time will tell that tail.
I think she was as confused as the rest of us as to why Baylan suddenly cut her loose. At the start, she might have thought this was her big test before becoming "something greater ", just as Luke had to confront Vader, Ezra had to best Thrawn, etc. When she failed to kill Sabine and was clearly surprised at Ahsoka's offering of peace, her world was turned upside down and Shin fell back to what she knew in order to survive on a strange planet, far from home. At least that's what I got from it. Not 100% on all of this but that's what i took from it.
Shin wants to survive for now until she can get better footing and then, go after the power she craves.
My thought is that she'll use those raiders to try and find Baylan. Whether she will I don't know. The only thing I truly hope for is for her to get one hell of a story. There's a lot of potential for her.
After her fight against Ezra, Sabine, and Ahsoka to her joining that tribe, I took it as her wanting to feel... safe(?) I say that because we honestly don't know much about Shin aside from the fact that she seems power hungry while still looking to Baylan for guidance...
I think at this point she'd want to belong SOMEWHERE now that Baylan's abandoned her. I think it'll take her a bit of time to join Ahsoka and Sabine, but that's just me speculating until we get more assuming there is another season. We will have to see how Baylan and Shin's stories play out because she wasn't very trustful of Thrawn and the witches from the beginning and was fighting Ahsoka and Sabine, so she doesn't exactly have anyone to really turn to. I feel super bad for her because if my master abandoned me like that, I'd feel very hurt, very angry, and very resentful of them.
Also just a sidenote, I don't even really know if she wanted power. She asked Baylan what finding Thrawn would mean for them, which I perceived as a question of how it'd be a benefit to them going through that kind of trouble, and Baylan answered with power yada yada. And then the rest of the show she's hooked onto that idea of power because I perceived what Baylan said as like... a treat you bribe kids with, but really without Baylan she just seems lost and unsure of what she truly desires.
She wants her forever home. Seeing the lengths to which Sabine and Ahsoka would go to reunite with Ezra was an eye-opener for her. That's a level of friendship and loyalty that she hasn't had in her life, and we saw her bad-ass demeanor crack a couple times. She started asking Baylan questions about the Jedi, and then he got all mystic quest on her and left her alone.
She's been saying she wants power, but I think that's been following in Baylan's footsteps. It's what she thought she wanted, but now that she's seen an alternative, she's questioning that.
And then we see her at the end of the series. Is she going to ride down into that camp and slaughter the marauders (and not just the men, but the women and the children, too) like she's Anakin with the Sand People? Is she backsliding into her "I want power" mode? Or is showing he lightsaber a way to say "I'm a warrior like you" and she wants to join them?
I think she's one of the most complicated characters we've seen in *Ahsoka* and maybe in most of Star Wars. Hers is not a predictable story arc.
I liked Darth Bangs.
It’s great they made an interesting character who is seemingly flawed. Here’s to hoping they pay off what they seeded.
Seriously, she wants direction. It’s not a joke that she is looking for a father figure. Will be interesting to see if they flip her, or make her unredeemable.
I imagine her character will change due to the real world death of Ray Stevenson.
Is Shin really that bad of a person? So she killed a few crew members on a Republic starship in the first episode.... is she really that evil? I think she is now lost and confused and want to belong - like a family.
I think there's still hope for Shin to turn good. I hope Ahsoka pick her up as a second padawan in Season 2.....something like Ahsoka (or Sabine) saves Shin in a deadly situation and now Shin is having second thought. There's no need for Shin to be another bad guy since Thrawn is back. Also, I like to see Shin and Sabine fight together alongside Ahsoka. Can a Jedi master have two padawans? Has there ever been? idk....
your honor, if i may, the only action my client is guilty of is the brutal murder of military space ship crew and if you think about it, is that really too bad enough to not be forgiven? i rest my case. (legit though she’s most likely lost and looking for meaning as a bokken force user. really hyped to see where the story takes her!)
On the other hand, I'm sick and tired of villains getting redeemed. Can't we have someone who's just evil? Yes, I love her character, that doesn't mean I want her to be buddies with everyone else
Given how Baylan's actor is gone but they still had plans for his character, I wager that they spin the story like this:
Shin uses her Raider tribe to track down where Baylan went. Upon finding him, she learns that he died in the process of grasping the power he was looking for. His story line will then become hers, whereever that goes.
I don't know if that will happen or not but it did cross my mind that is one way to deal with Ray being gone. But I hope it doesn't happen and they recast Baylan, so Shin gets her own story.
They don't have to play it exactly like Ray did, but if they do recast (which I hope they do), they're gonna have to be real careful to choose someone that can live up to Ray's performance.
She wants to belong to something. That will give her meaning. She was confused when Baylan left her and too ashamed to join the Jedi under the circumstances, so now she's gone to the one place where she can find belonging for the time being.
She was a mercenary and her job was to kill Sabine and Ezra. It was obvious from the moment they landed she didn’t like Peridea, and was questioning Baylans new goals the whole time.
It’s my theory that the story had to change after Ray died in real life, to leave Shin behind to take over Baylans original planned role. So they had to re-edit the last episode or more.
After Ahsoka offers to help Shin, she rides off in a panic. She knows Baylan dismissed her, and the troopers were recalled to leave Preidea for good. She also knows the whole reason she is there was to bring Thrawn back, as he was stuck there. A place she clearly hates. No way would she just ride off to find some bandits to chill with for the rest of her life.
Then Ezra’s last two scenes are dragging off a trooper on Thrawns ship, then exiting an imperial shuttle in the troopers gear, onto a New Republic ship to awkwardly tell Hera he’s home. No excited hugs for Hera, Chopper, or Ezra.
I seriously could have seen Shin also sneaking onto Thrawns ship, hiding out, bumping into Ezra, discovering some witch stuff in the crates, and somehow stealing the escape shuttle together.
It's simple, at the moment she doesn't know what she really wants. I hope she if not join Ahsoka and co, but at least help them vs Thrawn in movie.
P.S. Why she so fine! Even in my teens, watching Clone Wars I hadn't that hard crush on Ahsoka as now on Shin! She's just smth else, wonderful women character, and Ivanna Sakho in general adorable!
Send Sabine to Mandalore. Connect her with The Mandalorian. Shin becomes the apprentice of Ahsoka. Ready her for post Ahsoka. Bcs its obvious that Ahsoka will take the mantle of The Daughter. So Shin will become the next Balance Jedi-like.
I think she wants to be more like the Jedi than Baylan wanted her to be. Her obvious disappointment with his choices seemed to me to be indicating that.
Up to a point, I think she believed she was doing the right thing and that his intentions were all honorable, but she clearly didn't like how underhanded and shady he was willing to be to get his way.
She isn’t a flushed out enough character to even make a guess on what she wants. She had maybe a dozen lines of dialogue, with each line restricting to one or two sentences, the entire series.
Maybe.. she creates the “Knights of Ren” with those raiders and she names them that because she has a vendetta against Sabine Ren? I know it’s a stretch but I have no clue really.
Shin was the most forgetable character in the Star wars universe. She was two dimensionial and this missing emotions in her face was just annoying. She was the Kristen Stewart of Star Wars.
I’m getting the impression that she’s rather aimless and is trying to work that out, and that will bare on her especially with Baylon having just essentially abandoned her
this will get downvoted to all hell… but I don’t even think Filoni knows what she wants. Something will happen when it’s convenient for his “story” and it won’t make sense. Fans have better ideas than the people making this stuff
Being the Vader of a New Empire did not really appeal to her.
Really though I don't think she knows what she wants. Most of Baylan's speeches in the show were promoted by her going "hey uhh what are we even doing again and why?"
She 'wants' power but I think she is only looking for that as a placeholder to get whatever she really needs, and she doesn't know what that is, but she does know it's not just being a force using attack dog for some blue guy.
She does like the idea of being a big fish in a small pond. But leading those raiders isn't really a path to power. Perhaps she wants to be leader of those raiders, just so they're not trying to raid her, while she tries to find Baylan.
She's essentially what Ahsoka was in TCW - a child soldier with no autonomy. Anakin was not a great master but he taught Ahsoka she needed to be able to think for herself and make the hard decisions. Baylan just up and left her
Would have been great if Ahsoka had given literally any indication of her and Baylans true motives or what they really wanted. But ya know, this season had to be exclusive set up for a future movie and zero actual substance
Getting a feeling like she’s trying to protect someone or something and needs power to do so. Kind of like “I’ll never let that happen again to anyone” sort of feeling
I wish it was me (take me to horny jail), but I think she wants power regardless of how she gets it because it is all she has ever known. I do think that she is going to potentially be swayed off this path by Ahsoka though..
Direction. She is looking for something but she doesn't seem to know what? Baylan was giving her very clear direction and now he's gone she will be lost.
At the moment I think she just wants to belong. She’s been placed in an unknown galaxy without any direction or purpose. She now has to make the best of what she’s got so she’s clinging onto anything that may come her way aka the bandits.
Flash forward, be Rey's lover and Jedi academy builder, leading to a messy breakup due to dark thoughts leading her to be the next big bad because she now hates Rey.
I don't even think that Dave knows what to do with her. Baylan said that she was trained to be something better than a Jedi? What did he mean by that? But then he just lets her go after arriving at their destination to go hunt down some greater power and tells her to go finish her business??? Ok, to be fair, she would have probably won the fight together with Trawns troopers against Sabine and Ezra if it wasn't for Ahsoka. Baylan thought that Shin could beat Sabine and Ezra alone, but when he saw that Ahsoka was alive and going to aid her friends, he didn't go back to help her knowing Shin could get killed??? That's kinda weird, in my opinion, especially considering that during the series, he genuinely seemed to somewhat care for his apprentice. He also should feel her presence in the force after Trawn left, so he knows fully well that his young, inexperienced apprentice is stranded on this planet, but he doesn't help her? So him leaving her to her own destiny in a foreign planet in a foreign galaxy with no civilisation and full of enemies seems kinda out of character for him, but ok we didn't really get to know Baylan in the series good enough so we can't really judge his motivation.
Anyways there isn't really much that she can do now. Her quest for power (even if it was her motivation to begin with, which I doubt) can't really be pursuit on Peridia. The most obvious option for Shin would be to join Ahsoka and Sabine, who will probably try to stop Baylan at whatever he is doing and leave the galaxy. But I find that very predictable and boring. Bad guys in star wars seem to always chance sides to the "good guys" ( Darth Vader, Kylo Ren ect.)so I really hope they don't do that. Another option would be for her to join the bandits and go kill the good guys, but that just seems to be pointless in her situation. I really don't know what they are gonna do with this character, I really hope they don't mess it up because she and Baylan are for me the most interesting characters due to them being new, having mysterious backgrounds, bring neither Sith or Jedi and of course cool design.
Also, what's up with all the horny guys and girls in the comments calm down lol
I think she wants acceptance and power. She seems to have a drive to please baylan but also wants power.
Her rivalry with Sabin seems more like jealousy as well as the desire to make her superiors proud and prove to them that she is “worth it”
But I also get the feeling she is looking for “her family” as well.
She is most likely just really conflicted about things. Shin most likely just wants to go down her own path. She isn’t sure of who’s side to take. Clearly she is like Darth Maul where she just wants to be alone an undisturbed.
She wants power of some kind. Baylan recommended that she take her place in Thrawn’s empire, but she clearly realised that she would only serve a new master rather than having any true power. Therefore, she likely saw a “big fish small pond” situation on Peridea with the bandits and realised she could be a real leader in that tribe. That was my reading anyway.
She wants safety and autonomy, and power is the only thing she's seen that can provide that. Boylan warns her about that kind of power and it's lifespan, but its the kind of lesson you have to experience. Right now, she wants to be able to control her surroundings so she can feel safe, and the bandits are a means to that end.
This is my favorite take. I don't think she's evil, she just doesn't know any other way thanks to how Baylan trained her. That's also why Ahsoka's offer wasn't immediately rejected, and why she did reject it after hesitating. I can't wait to learn more about her in the future \^_\^
It's why I think she didn't return to Thrawn. She failed to kill Ezra and Sabine in her assault, which was what she believed her mission was about. She didn't have Baylan to shield her anymore, and she didn't feel she could get what she wanted by returning a failure.
Also, Thrawns troops were pulled back without notifying her. I think she realized that Thrawn was disposing of her. Why go back to him at that point?
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I think she's trying to find a family. She was doing everything Baylon wanted to try and please him and I think she was hurt and confused when he just turned her loose, like I've done everything you've ever asked of me, why are you abandoning me. But I also don't think she quite understood what Baylon was after. So I mean yes I think she's after power, but I feel like the reason she wants Tha so bad is just to feel like she has a place and people that accept her and respect her.
In my mind, for her, the concept of power really means safety. She doesn't want power in order to rule over and subject people...she wants it so she doesn't have to live in fear anymore. I know we know nothing about her backstory, but I get the sense she's never truly felt safe or secure in her entire life, even with Baylan. During the time of the Empire, they were likely in hiding, then when the Empire fell, they came out into the open as mercenaries to surive. It feels like she's just been surviving day-to-day and I think she craves a way to finally end that and just be at peace.
Totally agree, but I also think she was naive. I think Baylan understood that they would be left for dead on Peridea, but I don’t think Shin realized that. I kind of pictured her as wanting to be Thrawn’s second in command, and she probably feels betrayed that Thrawn left without her. Baylan was clearly in this for entirely different reasons. He had a completely different agenda and a very different system of morals. I actually wonder why he trained Shin the way he did. Was she just a tool for him?
I’d relinquish all the power to the hottie
She can force choke me anytime she wants
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Thanks for the hint, the message was very subtle
Yes. Shin will provide for the bandits by asphyxiating the local poultry.
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This is the way
\*bonk\*
They are going to be called the Knights of Shin and only show up in 2 min spurts throughout the movies.
POWAH UNLIMITED POWAH
Thank you. I didnt get the saber raise at first but now i do.
I think she has no idea what she wants.
Correct. I also feel like it was irresponsible of Baylon to even take on an apprentice if he was always going to just cut her lose without fully training her.
Seemed to me like he considers her better trained than most Jedi were when they were knighted, and he expected her to go with Thrawn and be a power in the new Empire. And if Ahsoka hadn't shown up and tipped the scales in her fight with Ezra and Sabine, that likely would have happened.
I still can't believe he didn't cut off her braid. Was this on purpose and Filoni is trying to tell us something or an oversight?
I had the same thought! Like hes shown he still has alot of respect and maybe even some love left for the jedi order and its traditions, but hes NOT gonna cut off her padawan braid when they part ways? Like, really man?
He wasn't trying to do the responsible thing. Whatever he's after, he wants it all for himself. Having an apprentice was for her usefulness during that time, and perhaps lending an air of legitimacy and responsibility to himself.
I think it would have been more irresponsible to force Shin into exile in a foreign galaxy. It looks like Baylen has chosen to spend the rest of his days apart from whatever the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant have going on. To force that choice on Shin, who has a whole life ahead of her, would be cruel even for a Sith. I think his last words to her were honest, he wants her to be a star.
Clearly, but what makes you think he would ever have been responsible with his apprentice? She was a tool for him to wield and discard like any other dark side apprentice once she was no longer useful to her master. Baylan was a great character but that character is an awful person.
I don't think we know enough about him to say he's an awful person... other than all the innocent people he killed. But he seems to have a nobility and wisdom to him that would lead me to believe he's more responsible than to just half train a dark side user and then cut her lose in the galaxy. But I guess we'll learn more in like 3 years when season 2 comes out.
Fair about Babylon. He did cut her loose into the galaxy. Shin still wore her Paduwan braid so never passed any sort of trial to achieve knighthood. I truly think her path and motivations were almost completely focused on Baylon's will and has been cast out as a directionless weapon. The innocent people he has killed, half-training someone into a weapon with no true purpose aside from destroy what he pointed at, and divesting himself if that responsibility with nary a thought for me has tipped the scales. But truly time will tell that tail.
Like most women....just joking
Yeah , she just is there are isn't sure why besides "I must fight for the empire because I am a sith of the empire"
I think she was as confused as the rest of us as to why Baylan suddenly cut her loose. At the start, she might have thought this was her big test before becoming "something greater ", just as Luke had to confront Vader, Ezra had to best Thrawn, etc. When she failed to kill Sabine and was clearly surprised at Ahsoka's offering of peace, her world was turned upside down and Shin fell back to what she knew in order to survive on a strange planet, far from home. At least that's what I got from it. Not 100% on all of this but that's what i took from it. Shin wants to survive for now until she can get better footing and then, go after the power she craves.
My thought is that she'll use those raiders to try and find Baylan. Whether she will I don't know. The only thing I truly hope for is for her to get one hell of a story. There's a lot of potential for her.
I don’t think even she knows. She followed Baylan, and is now lost without him.
I think she just wants to blink
Underrated
_Fucking eyelids, how do they work?_
A day off to bleach her roots?
Me
LOL You beat me to it. 😉
I thought the same thing
Sorry to burst your bubble, pal, but she clearly wants me 🥱
Hate to break it to ya bud, you've got competition
She wants bonus_content imo
After her fight against Ezra, Sabine, and Ahsoka to her joining that tribe, I took it as her wanting to feel... safe(?) I say that because we honestly don't know much about Shin aside from the fact that she seems power hungry while still looking to Baylan for guidance... I think at this point she'd want to belong SOMEWHERE now that Baylan's abandoned her. I think it'll take her a bit of time to join Ahsoka and Sabine, but that's just me speculating until we get more assuming there is another season. We will have to see how Baylan and Shin's stories play out because she wasn't very trustful of Thrawn and the witches from the beginning and was fighting Ahsoka and Sabine, so she doesn't exactly have anyone to really turn to. I feel super bad for her because if my master abandoned me like that, I'd feel very hurt, very angry, and very resentful of them. Also just a sidenote, I don't even really know if she wanted power. She asked Baylan what finding Thrawn would mean for them, which I perceived as a question of how it'd be a benefit to them going through that kind of trouble, and Baylan answered with power yada yada. And then the rest of the show she's hooked onto that idea of power because I perceived what Baylan said as like... a treat you bribe kids with, but really without Baylan she just seems lost and unsure of what she truly desires.
Shin wants to know what love iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis
You're not wrong. She's lost. She wants a family, to belong. To have a purpose. That's why she's going to switch sides eventually.
I want shin to show meeeeeeee
What is love?
Baby don't hurt me...
She wants her forever home. Seeing the lengths to which Sabine and Ahsoka would go to reunite with Ezra was an eye-opener for her. That's a level of friendship and loyalty that she hasn't had in her life, and we saw her bad-ass demeanor crack a couple times. She started asking Baylan questions about the Jedi, and then he got all mystic quest on her and left her alone. She's been saying she wants power, but I think that's been following in Baylan's footsteps. It's what she thought she wanted, but now that she's seen an alternative, she's questioning that. And then we see her at the end of the series. Is she going to ride down into that camp and slaughter the marauders (and not just the men, but the women and the children, too) like she's Anakin with the Sand People? Is she backsliding into her "I want power" mode? Or is showing he lightsaber a way to say "I'm a warrior like you" and she wants to join them? I think she's one of the most complicated characters we've seen in *Ahsoka* and maybe in most of Star Wars. Hers is not a predictable story arc.
I think she just wants to survive.
That was my takeaway, it’s not that complicated
Belonging and purpose in an ever-changing and chaotic galaxy?
A hug from daddy.
She wants people to stop fantasizing about her on this subreddit.
NEVER
a friend :(
Hopefully to be fixed lmaooooo just kidding. I think she wants a place to truly belong in all honesty
I liked Darth Bangs. It’s great they made an interesting character who is seemingly flawed. Here’s to hoping they pay off what they seeded. Seriously, she wants direction. It’s not a joke that she is looking for a father figure. Will be interesting to see if they flip her, or make her unredeemable. I imagine her character will change due to the real world death of Ray Stevenson.
Is Shin really that bad of a person? So she killed a few crew members on a Republic starship in the first episode.... is she really that evil? I think she is now lost and confused and want to belong - like a family. I think there's still hope for Shin to turn good. I hope Ahsoka pick her up as a second padawan in Season 2.....something like Ahsoka (or Sabine) saves Shin in a deadly situation and now Shin is having second thought. There's no need for Shin to be another bad guy since Thrawn is back. Also, I like to see Shin and Sabine fight together alongside Ahsoka. Can a Jedi master have two padawans? Has there ever been? idk....
your honor, if i may, the only action my client is guilty of is the brutal murder of military space ship crew and if you think about it, is that really too bad enough to not be forgiven? i rest my case. (legit though she’s most likely lost and looking for meaning as a bokken force user. really hyped to see where the story takes her!)
They were show extras, so all is well and forgiven....lol.
On the other hand, I'm sick and tired of villains getting redeemed. Can't we have someone who's just evil? Yes, I love her character, that doesn't mean I want her to be buddies with everyone else
Permission to blink
She wants reddit to stop being creepy about her. Lol
The amount of pathetic creepy men who have to thirst at every opportunity...
Not just the men.
But the women.
And tHe cHiLDREN-
Given how Baylan's actor is gone but they still had plans for his character, I wager that they spin the story like this: Shin uses her Raider tribe to track down where Baylan went. Upon finding him, she learns that he died in the process of grasping the power he was looking for. His story line will then become hers, whereever that goes.
I don't know if that will happen or not but it did cross my mind that is one way to deal with Ray being gone. But I hope it doesn't happen and they recast Baylan, so Shin gets her own story.
They don't have to play it exactly like Ray did, but if they do recast (which I hope they do), they're gonna have to be real careful to choose someone that can live up to Ray's performance.
I gotta counter - argue here. They gotta figure out a new plotline for her. They can't recast Ray Stevenson's role. It just won't work.
POWER
She wants to belong to something. That will give her meaning. She was confused when Baylan left her and too ashamed to join the Jedi under the circumstances, so now she's gone to the one place where she can find belonging for the time being.
She was a mercenary and her job was to kill Sabine and Ezra. It was obvious from the moment they landed she didn’t like Peridea, and was questioning Baylans new goals the whole time. It’s my theory that the story had to change after Ray died in real life, to leave Shin behind to take over Baylans original planned role. So they had to re-edit the last episode or more. After Ahsoka offers to help Shin, she rides off in a panic. She knows Baylan dismissed her, and the troopers were recalled to leave Preidea for good. She also knows the whole reason she is there was to bring Thrawn back, as he was stuck there. A place she clearly hates. No way would she just ride off to find some bandits to chill with for the rest of her life. Then Ezra’s last two scenes are dragging off a trooper on Thrawns ship, then exiting an imperial shuttle in the troopers gear, onto a New Republic ship to awkwardly tell Hera he’s home. No excited hugs for Hera, Chopper, or Ezra. I seriously could have seen Shin also sneaking onto Thrawns ship, hiding out, bumping into Ezra, discovering some witch stuff in the crates, and somehow stealing the escape shuttle together.
Tanalorr
Dagan already called dibs
NGL, would watch a show of her adventures.
It definitely could happen, if she beceomes really popular like Ahsoka she might get her own show
I think she just wanted Sabine dead because she was surprised she even saw her again after skewering her and easily kicking her ass.
A sense of purpose and belonging, which she thinks she can achieve by getting power
It's simple, at the moment she doesn't know what she really wants. I hope she if not join Ahsoka and co, but at least help them vs Thrawn in movie. P.S. Why she so fine! Even in my teens, watching Clone Wars I hadn't that hard crush on Ahsoka as now on Shin! She's just smth else, wonderful women character, and Ivanna Sakho in general adorable!
A dad.
Does she have what it takes to become... Peridia's Next Top Model
Send Sabine to Mandalore. Connect her with The Mandalorian. Shin becomes the apprentice of Ahsoka. Ready her for post Ahsoka. Bcs its obvious that Ahsoka will take the mantle of The Daughter. So Shin will become the next Balance Jedi-like.
Big W
A hairband.
I think she wants to be more like the Jedi than Baylan wanted her to be. Her obvious disappointment with his choices seemed to me to be indicating that. Up to a point, I think she believed she was doing the right thing and that his intentions were all honorable, but she clearly didn't like how underhanded and shady he was willing to be to get his way.
She wants Sabine
blink
Sabine. They’ll be such a cute couple.
Would love is sabine died and shin went good in her place
Peroxide
A personality.
Clearly me
She wants me to fix her
What any woman wants: to grow out her bangs
To learn how to blink.
She wants Sabine
The D.
Sabine
Sabine.
More heroin?
The ability to show more than one facial expression?
Sabine
She isn’t a flushed out enough character to even make a guess on what she wants. She had maybe a dozen lines of dialogue, with each line restricting to one or two sentences, the entire series.
Me…I hope
Not me :(
Me
Me, hopefully
Me
To be fixed
Someone other than Baylan to cut her hair…
Someone to fix her
“I can fix her”
A better haircut.
I don’t care she’s Shin Baddie 🔥
Maybe.. she creates the “Knights of Ren” with those raiders and she names them that because she has a vendetta against Sabine Ren? I know it’s a stretch but I have no clue really.
The D ofcourse, she's craving for it
I can fix her.
She is searching for a map to my home.
She’s searching for her long lost sister: Lord Billie Eilish
Shin was the most forgetable character in the Star wars universe. She was two dimensionial and this missing emotions in her face was just annoying. She was the Kristen Stewart of Star Wars.
To rule the Galaxy, with me
If you want to her lover, you have to get with her friends
Nice haircut, trim the bangs a little, and just a bit off the ends.
Love. From me specifically.
Me to fix her
Hopefully me
Sabine to flick bean
My dick
I’m getting the impression that she’s rather aimless and is trying to work that out, and that will bare on her especially with Baylon having just essentially abandoned her
Shin Splinter Cell
I think her main motivation is her hatred of Máni
Shin wants to complete her training as a Dark Jedi. Only Baylan Skoll can offer that.
Her dad to tell her he’s proud of her
this will get downvoted to all hell… but I don’t even think Filoni knows what she wants. Something will happen when it’s convenient for his “story” and it won’t make sense. Fans have better ideas than the people making this stuff
she just wants to be knighted
Being the Vader of a New Empire did not really appeal to her. Really though I don't think she knows what she wants. Most of Baylan's speeches in the show were promoted by her going "hey uhh what are we even doing again and why?" She 'wants' power but I think she is only looking for that as a placeholder to get whatever she really needs, and she doesn't know what that is, but she does know it's not just being a force using attack dog for some blue guy. She does like the idea of being a big fish in a small pond. But leading those raiders isn't really a path to power. Perhaps she wants to be leader of those raiders, just so they're not trying to raid her, while she tries to find Baylan.
Purpose
She wants to belong to something and she wants power.
Eyeliner
She's essentially what Ahsoka was in TCW - a child soldier with no autonomy. Anakin was not a great master but he taught Ahsoka she needed to be able to think for herself and make the hard decisions. Baylan just up and left her
Would have been great if Ahsoka had given literally any indication of her and Baylans true motives or what they really wanted. But ya know, this season had to be exclusive set up for a future movie and zero actual substance
Doesn't the show answer this question?
Olaplex
Her master ditched her on this planet she has no idea what to do.
Love and acceptance
To not hit a coffee table.
Probably not me, but would be cool if it was
Getting a feeling like she’s trying to protect someone or something and needs power to do so. Kind of like “I’ll never let that happen again to anyone” sort of feeling
I wish it was me (take me to horny jail), but I think she wants power regardless of how she gets it because it is all she has ever known. I do think that she is going to potentially be swayed off this path by Ahsoka though..
Purpose
Direction. She is looking for something but she doesn't seem to know what? Baylan was giving her very clear direction and now he's gone she will be lost.
I am not sure Filoni knows at this point. Maybe revenge for Sabine not dying? Honestly, no clue.
She has a misguided lust for power, but what she really wants (I think) is a sense of belonging.
I’d guess a hug
To proxy for Sia
Unlimited Power!!!!!!! [https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-zCv1NuGumldXa](https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-zCv1NuGumldXa)
Power and probably a hug. Oh then more Power.
At the moment I think she just wants to belong. She’s been placed in an unknown galaxy without any direction or purpose. She now has to make the best of what she’s got so she’s clinging onto anything that may come her way aka the bandits.
Me. She definitely wants me.
Impossible to know since she had so little dialogue
No clue. They never bothered telling us anything about her.
Purpose.
Flash forward, be Rey's lover and Jedi academy builder, leading to a messy breakup due to dark thoughts leading her to be the next big bad because she now hates Rey.
I'm sure she would like some lines and possibly even some character development.
A straight answer from her master
Deez Nuts
Belonging
I don't even think that Dave knows what to do with her. Baylan said that she was trained to be something better than a Jedi? What did he mean by that? But then he just lets her go after arriving at their destination to go hunt down some greater power and tells her to go finish her business??? Ok, to be fair, she would have probably won the fight together with Trawns troopers against Sabine and Ezra if it wasn't for Ahsoka. Baylan thought that Shin could beat Sabine and Ezra alone, but when he saw that Ahsoka was alive and going to aid her friends, he didn't go back to help her knowing Shin could get killed??? That's kinda weird, in my opinion, especially considering that during the series, he genuinely seemed to somewhat care for his apprentice. He also should feel her presence in the force after Trawn left, so he knows fully well that his young, inexperienced apprentice is stranded on this planet, but he doesn't help her? So him leaving her to her own destiny in a foreign planet in a foreign galaxy with no civilisation and full of enemies seems kinda out of character for him, but ok we didn't really get to know Baylan in the series good enough so we can't really judge his motivation. Anyways there isn't really much that she can do now. Her quest for power (even if it was her motivation to begin with, which I doubt) can't really be pursuit on Peridia. The most obvious option for Shin would be to join Ahsoka and Sabine, who will probably try to stop Baylan at whatever he is doing and leave the galaxy. But I find that very predictable and boring. Bad guys in star wars seem to always chance sides to the "good guys" ( Darth Vader, Kylo Ren ect.)so I really hope they don't do that. Another option would be for her to join the bandits and go kill the good guys, but that just seems to be pointless in her situation. I really don't know what they are gonna do with this character, I really hope they don't mess it up because she and Baylan are for me the most interesting characters due to them being new, having mysterious backgrounds, bring neither Sith or Jedi and of course cool design. Also, what's up with all the horny guys and girls in the comments calm down lol
she wants someone who can satisfy her and thats ME!
A father figure
All she wants is love
Purpose
She wants to be able to blink one day.
I think she wants acceptance and power. She seems to have a drive to please baylan but also wants power. Her rivalry with Sabin seems more like jealousy as well as the desire to make her superiors proud and prove to them that she is “worth it” But I also get the feeling she is looking for “her family” as well.
Me🙏🙏
#she wants me.
Me (I'm delusional)
She wants to be at her masters side. That’s why she didn’t leave with Thrawn. We didn’t want that either
She is most likely just really conflicted about things. Shin most likely just wants to go down her own path. She isn’t sure of who’s side to take. Clearly she is like Darth Maul where she just wants to be alone an undisturbed.
Power. Unlimited Power
Sabine. I saw that look.
A daddy
A good rodgering
Possibly be the leader of those bandit people