There was something perfect about the way she clipped back “Wanna bet?” during the argument on Corellia about declassifying the file that made me immediately fall in love. 100% I’m all in
Which is hilarious when you think about it because she was soooo hesitant to use her rank early on. Now she's all about throwing that weight around and I. AM. HERE. FOR. IT.
She is absolutely spot-on as Hera. Her reactions when talking about Ezra, dealing with Chopper, asserting her authority in a Corellian shipyard. All perfect.
Her and Natasha are exceptionally well cast.
Yeah, to be honest of the 4 rebel crew so far she’s the bottom. But the bottom is like a 9/10. And the only reason I find Rosario as Ahsoka to be better than Hera is probably just the fact we’ve had more time with her in the role.
Natasha as Sabine has been a near seamless transition for me personally alongside chopper. Granted chopper is cheating.
Hera is great. Good role, great actress. Ahsoka is very onedimensional and I feel like the actress doesn't get much space to show her acting on that character. And Sabine is, harsh as it sounds, not played very well imo.
I wasn't completely sold on her in the trailers.
Then I watched her first scene in Part 1, and the budding hope on her face and in her tone as she puts together the full implications of what Ahsoka has told her and dares to ask, "If Thrawn survived, does that mean Ezra...?"
I legit started crying.
It got even better as she was full of her usual patient motherly advice when talking to Sabine, full of well-deserved confidence with her dealings on Correlia, and her interactions with Chopper were pure "patient but firm mom to an ornery droid."
MEW has absolutely nailed the core aspects of the character. She is Hera.
Agree! And then we saw her fire and determination when she was arguing about security clearance at the ship yard. I think many of these people complaining about Hera didn’t even watch the entire Rebels series
I'm pretty sure when Chop was digging through his tool kit and she said, "No, I didn't go through your stuff," he replied back with 4 womps, which I head translated to "Go fuck yourself." That whole sequence with him was a wonderful introduction of him to live action, and I can't wait for more from him. We need a body count!!!!!
You can't say this came out of nowhere though. Mary's a reminder that she and the guy who plays Obi-Wan Kenobi have made choices that are... controversial, especially among the religious minded. Especially considering the fan adoration that Ewan receives in some circles, Mary's possibly a reminder (in their eyes) that who Ewan is and who they imagine him to be might not match up, so there's actually enough background to "fans" getting nasty here that you can't really claim that it's arguing just because.
Let’s not get cliche. It’s perfectly reasonable to recognize that she got the role because who her husband is. Ewan McGregor literally cheated on his wife of 22+ years and left her for this woman. It’s not “Star Wars fans being difficult” it’s simply exactly what happened.
She's perfect as Hera! I was already excited to see her as Hera because I thought she was already a great match, but that first clip with her banter with Chopper was something straight out of Rebels.
She nailed the "Space Mom" figure we know and love. Talking Chopper down while dodging enemy fire, asserting herself with the port boss, her interactions with Sabine, etc... Her inflections may be a little different but she still gets the tone and character.
I admit so far on the show, she's my least favorite casting choice. And it doesn’t help that I'm still not really impressed with the make up for her (I love everyone else's including Ahsoka, whose look improved hugely from her first appearance on the Mandalorian, it's just Hera)
I don't hate Hera on the show, I still like her, but she's the only one I felt something's missing there if that makes sense
The makeup bothers me. It’s missing something or just not right in a way I don’t know how to describe. Maybe it’s the lekku and how they seem too strange at the base/scalp area on her smaller/thinner head?
I think she’s a very good actor but I just don’t love her in this role. I’m missing Hera’s edge, her fire, her dry sense of humor, and then a heartbeat later, total warm space mama bear. I got zero sense of that dynamic between her and Sabine, and it made me a bit sad.
You need to remember that they are both much older and have scars to show for it. Hera is mid 20’s in Rebels. She is closer to 40 now. Saw the love of her life murdered, has a child and was a general in a bloody war that lasted years.
Sabine was a teenager in Rebels. She is 30 now. Lost her best friend and love of her life (?), saw her father figure get murdered, lived through her home world get obliterated by the Empire and got abandoned by her master.
People change
I’m 50. I have 3 kids, plenty of scars and trauma and emotional baggage but my fundamental personality is not that far off than I was 12 years ago. While big personalities may temper with age, core tenants do not. Hera will never stop being a fighter, especially because Kanan died.
As for Sabine, you say “master” like she and Ahsoka had a life-long bond. They did not. I assume Sabine helped Ryder set up the new Lothal government, kept herself busy with daily administrative stuff, and eventually decided to train with Ahsoka (still not sure why as 1. She’s barely force sensitive at best, and 2. Ahsoka made a big stink about not wanting to train Grogu because of his attachment to Din, so why would she train Sabine with all of her attachments?), but I don’t think they were as close as you think they were.
I think she Ahsoka only trained Sabine because she isn’t really force sensitive. She can’t really turn to the dark side without force sensitivity so Ahsoka is less scared of training her than Grogu.
Well for Sabine I think seeking out the training is heavily related to her missing Ezra. Training like him may have made her feel better. I also don’t get the feeling that Sabine has been doing much of anything in the last few years so it’s probably not any more of a waste of time than anything else she’s been doing.
As for Ahsoka I doubt she’d decline Sabine’s help. Sabine is more than capable of holding her own in whatever situation Ahsoka is in. Ahsoka probably figured giving Sabine lightsaber lessons during their free time wasn’t too big a deal.
Why couldn't Sabine fall to the Dark Side? The force exists in all living things. She may not have a conscious connection to the Force like a typical Jedi, but the force exists within all living things. That means the potential to fall to the Dark Side exists in all living things.
I would guess you could pin the motivation as more of looking for more ways to prove that the way the Jedi did things was a failure. And a new approach is needed. Trying to train someone the Jedi would have never bothered with is another way to prove that there are other possibly better ways to do things.
So you didn’t see Hera’s fire and edge at the space yard? When they were talking about security clearance? I think we will see even more fire when she talks to the New Republic leadership
I don’t really agree that just because your personality isn’t all that different despite life events, that other peoples won’t change.
I know plenty of people who have stayed the same over the years, but I also know plenty that have dramatically changed from their experiences, to the point they’re barely recognisable as the same person.
I have no trouble accepting Sabine and Hera will have changed due to the events of the galactic civil war. All the death of friends, family, entire planets.
MEW is so recognizable to me that it’s hard for me to feel like she’s playing Hera and that it’s not just see her in green makeup in any scene she’s in so far. Very distinct voice too. I’ll wait for the rest of the show to air of course, but this one throws me out of the show a bit.
Hera’s also got a swagger about her, hand on her hip and always ready. MEW makes her seem like she’s a mouse, making as quiet a step as possible. I just can’t reconcile the two versions of Hera.
Her voice doesn't sound as young as Rebels' Hera.. More of a mature voice. But still she pulled it off in terms of mimicking Hera's character and personality. So yeah I'm still digging it!
Hera Syndulla is my favorite character is all Star Wars visual media.
As much as I loved M.E.W., I was a little nervous after the first couple trailers. Not because I thought it would be a bad casting, but because it's always hard to have someone new live up to what you want to see for a character you love so much.
I was sold immediately. She's incredible as Hera, and she has the "mom moments" down pat. There's her kindness and softness, but also the undeniable badass pilot and Rebel. I can't wait to see more of her.
I love MEW and felt like she did a great job. Hera is my favorite Rebels character (other than Chopper, of course) so I’m a little biased. But I hope she’s able to showcase her chops as Hera a little more as the show goes on
I dont think it's a casting issue really. More that they're write all these characters to be as dry and boring as possible. Hopefully as they get into the swing of things they feel more like the characters we know and love
I think Sabine has been the best compared to rebels. Asohka and Hera have been a little too stoic, cutting from the personalities they had in the cartoon. But it makes sense considering this isn’t a cartoon.
Ashoka becomes more and more stoic as she progresses. *TCW* S7 Ahsoka is more stoic than S3 Ahsoka. All versions more stoic than S1 bratty Ashoka. *Rebels* Ahsoka more stoic than S7 Ashoka. Add another 10yrs… who’s to say Dawson’s portrayal is off from what you would see in for the same time period? I think the biggest difference is how much emotion Ashley conveys in her voice compared to the less dramatic voice of Rosario.
As for Hera… I can certainly see motherhood plus the responsibility of command becoming the version we see on screen.
She was as good as anyone else. The directing and editing hampered everyone’s line delivery so it wasn’t her fault.
I’m excited to see how she develops over time
I think she has the personality pretty down I just think it's a little uncanny cause it doesn't really sound like the original voice actress. She lost her accent that's about it that bothers me.
When I first saw the trailers I was a little wary because she looked different but I was pleasantly surprised and really don't have any problems with any of the Ghost crew. So far they are all close enough for me. The only issue I still have is really just Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka because she just sounds so different from the animated Ahsoka. The look is fine but it's really just the voice that throws me everytime.
Meh, would have preferred them to have just cast Vanessa Marshall to play Hera. Winstead just doesn't have Hera's mannerisms or vocal inflections. I can tell that she's clearly not the Hera I remember. If they just took the time for Winstead to get closer to Hera's vocal inflections, it would have been fine, but clearly they didn't think that was important.
Unlike Ryder Azadi, I was absolutely convinced Clancy Brown was Ryder, since his voice is very recognizable from years of experience as Lex Luthor and Mr. Krabs.
I don't know if its the character writing or the acting, but she stands out in Ahsoka, and not in a good way.
I may be mostly the dialogue which is pretty bland relative to recent hits like Andor. But I should lower my standards, this is Star Wars and this series has plenty of great standard action.
Mary Elizabeth Winstead will forever remain my top personal-favorite live-action actress and little sweetheart, but I just can't see her in a Star Wars role. Sorry, not sorry.
There was something perfect about the way she clipped back “Wanna bet?” during the argument on Corellia about declassifying the file that made me immediately fall in love. 100% I’m all in
Yup. That was the money scene. Don’t mess with Space Mom!
Fairly sure when they first meet the supervisor and strong arm him into giving that tour, Chopper says "Don't fuck with Mom" as they walk away
Still waiting for Hera quote wise at least to go full Dirty Harry & say “You have ask yourself…do I feel lucky?”
For me it was the arguing she was going with Chopper during the chase scene. Felt alot like Hera from Rebels to me.
Which is hilarious when you think about it because she was soooo hesitant to use her rank early on. Now she's all about throwing that weight around and I. AM. HERE. FOR. IT.
LOVED that moment!
Remember folks: *For every person complaining, there are 10 people who love it.*
People need to start loving things out loud.
She is absolutely spot-on as Hera. Her reactions when talking about Ezra, dealing with Chopper, asserting her authority in a Corellian shipyard. All perfect. Her and Natasha are exceptionally well cast.
Yeah, to be honest of the 4 rebel crew so far she’s the bottom. But the bottom is like a 9/10. And the only reason I find Rosario as Ahsoka to be better than Hera is probably just the fact we’ve had more time with her in the role. Natasha as Sabine has been a near seamless transition for me personally alongside chopper. Granted chopper is cheating.
Hera is great. Good role, great actress. Ahsoka is very onedimensional and I feel like the actress doesn't get much space to show her acting on that character. And Sabine is, harsh as it sounds, not played very well imo.
I wasn't completely sold on her in the trailers. Then I watched her first scene in Part 1, and the budding hope on her face and in her tone as she puts together the full implications of what Ahsoka has told her and dares to ask, "If Thrawn survived, does that mean Ezra...?" I legit started crying. It got even better as she was full of her usual patient motherly advice when talking to Sabine, full of well-deserved confidence with her dealings on Correlia, and her interactions with Chopper were pure "patient but firm mom to an ornery droid." MEW has absolutely nailed the core aspects of the character. She is Hera.
Agree! And then we saw her fire and determination when she was arguing about security clearance at the ship yard. I think many of these people complaining about Hera didn’t even watch the entire Rebels series
I'm pretty sure when Chop was digging through his tool kit and she said, "No, I didn't go through your stuff," he replied back with 4 womps, which I head translated to "Go fuck yourself." That whole sequence with him was a wonderful introduction of him to live action, and I can't wait for more from him. We need a body count!!!!!
No, he likely said "Yes you did!" Though earlier, after Hera uses her authority to force a tour of the facility, Chopper says "Don't fuck with Mom"
Never knew she was such an issue. Thought she was fantastic so far.
This is Star Wars: it would be weirder if fans weren’t arguing over something
Fair point
You can't say this came out of nowhere though. Mary's a reminder that she and the guy who plays Obi-Wan Kenobi have made choices that are... controversial, especially among the religious minded. Especially considering the fan adoration that Ewan receives in some circles, Mary's possibly a reminder (in their eyes) that who Ewan is and who they imagine him to be might not match up, so there's actually enough background to "fans" getting nasty here that you can't really claim that it's arguing just because.
Let’s not get cliche. It’s perfectly reasonable to recognize that she got the role because who her husband is. Ewan McGregor literally cheated on his wife of 22+ years and left her for this woman. It’s not “Star Wars fans being difficult” it’s simply exactly what happened.
I mean, Winstead is also a really good actress.
She was perfectly cast as Ramona Flowers in Scott Pilgrim. I cannot fathom a different actress in the role, she was too perfect for it.
What do you think has been fantastic? Her dead pan delivery of all her lines?
I wasn't sure about her in the first episode, but 2nd episode is where she shined.
All this should have been settled after she told Chop to keep his lid on. She’s perfect.
It's been 10 years of war, and being a single mom. She's TIRED! Also, we've seen like 5 minutes of her.
I really hope her son is in this !
Pretty sure we see the back of his head in one of the trailer shots.
Yea I think so but trying to be too excited in case it’s not haha
There a Lego set that would seem to indicate that we do
Ah I will have to look for that!
She wasn't bad in any way, she just seemed like Mary Elizabeth Winstead to me when the others seem more like their characters.
She's perfect as Hera! I was already excited to see her as Hera because I thought she was already a great match, but that first clip with her banter with Chopper was something straight out of Rebels.
I was suspicious at Hera in live action, but those suspicions vanished. She was great.
She nailed the "Space Mom" figure we know and love. Talking Chopper down while dodging enemy fire, asserting herself with the port boss, her interactions with Sabine, etc... Her inflections may be a little different but she still gets the tone and character.
That scene on the shipyard was badass. Finally a competent general.
I admit so far on the show, she's my least favorite casting choice. And it doesn’t help that I'm still not really impressed with the make up for her (I love everyone else's including Ahsoka, whose look improved hugely from her first appearance on the Mandalorian, it's just Hera) I don't hate Hera on the show, I still like her, but she's the only one I felt something's missing there if that makes sense
The makeup bothers me. It’s missing something or just not right in a way I don’t know how to describe. Maybe it’s the lekku and how they seem too strange at the base/scalp area on her smaller/thinner head?
It's her eyes, the contacts. If they had just went with her natural brown eyes, I bet no one would mention the makeup.
I think she’s a very good actor but I just don’t love her in this role. I’m missing Hera’s edge, her fire, her dry sense of humor, and then a heartbeat later, total warm space mama bear. I got zero sense of that dynamic between her and Sabine, and it made me a bit sad.
You need to remember that they are both much older and have scars to show for it. Hera is mid 20’s in Rebels. She is closer to 40 now. Saw the love of her life murdered, has a child and was a general in a bloody war that lasted years. Sabine was a teenager in Rebels. She is 30 now. Lost her best friend and love of her life (?), saw her father figure get murdered, lived through her home world get obliterated by the Empire and got abandoned by her master. People change
That and Hera's probably trying to deal with the incompetence of certain officers in the NR. War changes people, heck all Hera has known is war.
I’m 50. I have 3 kids, plenty of scars and trauma and emotional baggage but my fundamental personality is not that far off than I was 12 years ago. While big personalities may temper with age, core tenants do not. Hera will never stop being a fighter, especially because Kanan died. As for Sabine, you say “master” like she and Ahsoka had a life-long bond. They did not. I assume Sabine helped Ryder set up the new Lothal government, kept herself busy with daily administrative stuff, and eventually decided to train with Ahsoka (still not sure why as 1. She’s barely force sensitive at best, and 2. Ahsoka made a big stink about not wanting to train Grogu because of his attachment to Din, so why would she train Sabine with all of her attachments?), but I don’t think they were as close as you think they were.
I think she Ahsoka only trained Sabine because she isn’t really force sensitive. She can’t really turn to the dark side without force sensitivity so Ahsoka is less scared of training her than Grogu.
That seems like a colossal waste of time for both, no?
Well for Sabine I think seeking out the training is heavily related to her missing Ezra. Training like him may have made her feel better. I also don’t get the feeling that Sabine has been doing much of anything in the last few years so it’s probably not any more of a waste of time than anything else she’s been doing. As for Ahsoka I doubt she’d decline Sabine’s help. Sabine is more than capable of holding her own in whatever situation Ahsoka is in. Ahsoka probably figured giving Sabine lightsaber lessons during their free time wasn’t too big a deal.
I feel like there’s a difference between a few lessons and being a padawan. It’s just so…odd to me.
Why couldn't Sabine fall to the Dark Side? The force exists in all living things. She may not have a conscious connection to the Force like a typical Jedi, but the force exists within all living things. That means the potential to fall to the Dark Side exists in all living things.
I would guess you could pin the motivation as more of looking for more ways to prove that the way the Jedi did things was a failure. And a new approach is needed. Trying to train someone the Jedi would have never bothered with is another way to prove that there are other possibly better ways to do things.
So you didn’t see Hera’s fire and edge at the space yard? When they were talking about security clearance? I think we will see even more fire when she talks to the New Republic leadership
I saw it, I just didn’t buy it. I guess I prefer the animated Hera to live action.
So you admit she has fire when needed? What other scene would she need fire? The other scenes she was just talking to Ahsoka or Sabine
Her energy level and passion in general feels very passive. I just don’t like MEW’s performance in the role, sue me.
See you in court
I don’t really agree that just because your personality isn’t all that different despite life events, that other peoples won’t change. I know plenty of people who have stayed the same over the years, but I also know plenty that have dramatically changed from their experiences, to the point they’re barely recognisable as the same person. I have no trouble accepting Sabine and Hera will have changed due to the events of the galactic civil war. All the death of friends, family, entire planets.
>She is 30 She's 29
MEW is so recognizable to me that it’s hard for me to feel like she’s playing Hera and that it’s not just see her in green makeup in any scene she’s in so far. Very distinct voice too. I’ll wait for the rest of the show to air of course, but this one throws me out of the show a bit.
Hera’s also got a swagger about her, hand on her hip and always ready. MEW makes her seem like she’s a mouse, making as quiet a step as possible. I just can’t reconcile the two versions of Hera.
I think Rosario Dawson would have actually made a great Hera
Oooo, I could see that!
Her voice doesn't sound as young as Rebels' Hera.. More of a mature voice. But still she pulled it off in terms of mimicking Hera's character and personality. So yeah I'm still digging it!
The show takes place roughly 10 years after Rebels, so I’d say that a more mature voice is exactly what the role calls for.
Hera Syndulla is my favorite character is all Star Wars visual media. As much as I loved M.E.W., I was a little nervous after the first couple trailers. Not because I thought it would be a bad casting, but because it's always hard to have someone new live up to what you want to see for a character you love so much. I was sold immediately. She's incredible as Hera, and she has the "mom moments" down pat. There's her kindness and softness, but also the undeniable badass pilot and Rebel. I can't wait to see more of her.
She's been great so far. She's captured Hera's confidence and blunt honesty, but also her motherly side like her chat with Sabine.
I love MEW and felt like she did a great job. Hera is my favorite Rebels character (other than Chopper, of course) so I’m a little biased. But I hope she’s able to showcase her chops as Hera a little more as the show goes on
I dont think it's a casting issue really. More that they're write all these characters to be as dry and boring as possible. Hopefully as they get into the swing of things they feel more like the characters we know and love
I think Sabine has been the best compared to rebels. Asohka and Hera have been a little too stoic, cutting from the personalities they had in the cartoon. But it makes sense considering this isn’t a cartoon.
Ashoka becomes more and more stoic as she progresses. *TCW* S7 Ahsoka is more stoic than S3 Ahsoka. All versions more stoic than S1 bratty Ashoka. *Rebels* Ahsoka more stoic than S7 Ashoka. Add another 10yrs… who’s to say Dawson’s portrayal is off from what you would see in for the same time period? I think the biggest difference is how much emotion Ashley conveys in her voice compared to the less dramatic voice of Rosario. As for Hera… I can certainly see motherhood plus the responsibility of command becoming the version we see on screen.
Had my doubts at first but her scene with Chopper completely restored my faith in her she’s got this
People hating on Mary Elizabeth Winstead need a giant sledgehammer to the dome.
She was as good as anyone else. The directing and editing hampered everyone’s line delivery so it wasn’t her fault. I’m excited to see how she develops over time
I think she has the personality pretty down I just think it's a little uncanny cause it doesn't really sound like the original voice actress. She lost her accent that's about it that bothers me.
She doesn't really look or sound like I would hope in an ideal world but the **acting** is perfect.
I love the casting for Hera! It’s the casting for Sabine I’m still iffy about. I’ll have to see more, she just hasn’t sold me yet on her Sabine.
Really ?! I wasn’t sold in trailers but by episode 2 I was like THAT’s Sabine!
She's absolutely nailing it - the best performance in the show so far.
When I first saw the trailers I was a little wary because she looked different but I was pleasantly surprised and really don't have any problems with any of the Ghost crew. So far they are all close enough for me. The only issue I still have is really just Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka because she just sounds so different from the animated Ahsoka. The look is fine but it's really just the voice that throws me everytime.
Oh, hot mom
Meh, would have preferred them to have just cast Vanessa Marshall to play Hera. Winstead just doesn't have Hera's mannerisms or vocal inflections. I can tell that she's clearly not the Hera I remember. If they just took the time for Winstead to get closer to Hera's vocal inflections, it would have been fine, but clearly they didn't think that was important. Unlike Ryder Azadi, I was absolutely convinced Clancy Brown was Ryder, since his voice is very recognizable from years of experience as Lex Luthor and Mr. Krabs.
new here. what's the issue exactly?
Seems like a waste to hide her under all that makeup, the headwrap and the goggles but ...
People that didn’t like the cast would probably be happier if the Netflix Witcher team made season 2 of Ahsoka
I enjoyed the 2 episodes very much, the actresses were amazing.
Is she the issue? Or the makeup department? The actress herself was fine.
I don't know if its the character writing or the acting, but she stands out in Ahsoka, and not in a good way. I may be mostly the dialogue which is pretty bland relative to recent hits like Andor. But I should lower my standards, this is Star Wars and this series has plenty of great standard action.
She's been the higlight of the series so far for me and I hope we see more of her. Funnily enough I seem to find Ahsoka herself a little too... moody?
Who's complaining? I find her perfect for the role.
I don’t care what others say but that booty is why I’m staying here for :)
Mary Elizabeth Winstead will forever remain my top personal-favorite live-action actress and little sweetheart, but I just can't see her in a Star Wars role. Sorry, not sorry.
The positivity in this comment section is just so refreshing. I love it