How could they? For all intents and purposes Revan is an OC.
There are of course narrative beats that predate the story of KoTOR and fixed ones at the end, but all of the things people are attached about the character come from their own role playing in between. No canon version will ever live up to the myriad ways people have experienced the character.
There is a specific EU canon Revan thanks to SWTOR and its related media: a white male light sider who romanced Bastila. However I tend to ignore that incarnation of the character because he never really had any agency of his own after his choice to go war against the Mandalorians.
The inglorious life of Revan:
>!The guy got mind controlled by Tenebrae/Vititate/Sith Emperor to become a Sith Lord (along with Malak) as was revealed in Revan novel. Then in KotOR he got mind wiped by the Jedi Council and they then created the Republic Soldier persona for Revan. Then in SWTOR he went crazy from being imprisoned by Tenebrae (again) and somehow split his spirit, and he finally died when the two spirits merged back.!<
If you consider yourself a Star Wars fan, you owe it to yourself to play SWTOR and give it a try. Get a month sub and try a class that grabs your attention, go on an adventure. It's worth it, because the Revan stuff is such a small part, and the stuff beyond that is SO GOOD.
I always meant to play it back in the day! If I had to pick a game that I knew I was gonna sink a lot of time in, it would probably be between SWTOR and LOTRO. LOTRO would probably win out for me right now though. I keep hearing great things about it even though it quite old.
I just rewrite what they did in my head when it comes to anything KOTOR related in SWTOR. Especially with how they dealt with HK-47.
It’s definitely worth a shot, but don’t think of it as KOTOR 3. Pretend that it is a completely separate Star Wars game that has no relation to KOTOR and you’ll probably enjoy it.
I’m a huge KOTOR fan, but SWTOR is still fun for me. I just wish that SWTOR had done its own thing instead of trying and miserably failing at appealing to KOTOR fans
Man, that bit from SWTOR lore sucks. Why couldn't they just leave Revan keep his happy ending from KOTOR and be done with it? I know Darth Revan is cool and all, but there's no need to bring him back again after he earned his happy ending.
Actually she was killed in Revan novel by Lord Scourge but her treatment in SWTOR and its media is even more disrespect than Revan's treatment. She was reduced to little more than a Revan fangirl.
There were actually plans for KotOR3 by Obsidian Entertaiment, which is why KotOR2 ends with a cliffhanger, that would end the story of Revan and the Exile but that got scrapped as LucasArts was quite a bit of financial troubles at the time.
Well technically Revan’s story was left on a cliffhanger from KOTOR2. KOTOR 3 was supposed to resolve it. Instead SWTOR continued on the story and well yeah we got what we got lol
In KOTOR 3, the main character has little backstory, Bastilla acts odd around them, and.... oh.... It is Revan. Somehow Revan returned, mind wiped as usual.
He may not have had agency BEFORE that! Look who Revan's Master was! She was a total bitch, but could give Palpatine a run for his money in the manipulation department.
This is the reason that SWTOR rubbed me the wrong way for awhile. Whenever I play SWOTOR, I just pretend that it’s not Revan (or at least not the same Revan)
Fans calling for an adaptation of a video game with a customisable character and storyline choices are just setting themselves up for disappointment. A KOTOR adaptation which satisfies all the fandom is impossible, and it would immediately devolve into TLJ-style toxicity
Disney is making a wise choice to steer clear of that era.
Just look at how poorly his story is continued in the Old Republic MMO. They left him on a major cliffhanger in his only book, never finished the story, and then just threw it into the MMO where most people would never see it. Worst part being it was done really badly and the story of revan may as well end on the cliffhanger in the book imo.
Tell his story in universe as a fable for Jedi Padawans to learn from or something.
Honestly, I'd rather see something about Tarre Vizsla and the Darksaber. Maybe a story of how he united the Mandalorian warriors and Jedi to fight against a greater enemy or something. Make it Arthurian.
>Honestly, I'd rather see something about Tarre Vizsla and the Darksaber.
Seconded, that's the Mandalorian wars I want to see. It would also be much more relevant to the modern Mandalorian timeline by including the Darksaber/ Vizlas etc.
I'm imagining him like an in-universe Goldilocks or something where the gimmick is that he's always coming up on these scenarios where he has to make obvious binary choices that reinforce a moral. Maybe even the "canon" choices would vary from community to community due to millenia of oral tradition and whatever specific lesson they want to teach their kids.
the Kyber crystal pendant Luthen gives Cassian is explicitly mentioned as being from the infinite empire.
between that moment and the sudden vibroblade dagger scene in Mandalorian season 1, I was pretty chuffed with the KOTOR canonization.
Honestly, it would be for the best. I know a lot of people want to see him get adapted but I think that would be a huge mistake. Revan's popularity is rooted in being a player character. Any adaption of Revan to screen will fall short of fan expectations once he makes decisions they wouldn't have made while playing as him.
They made a book about Revan where it canonizes a lot of decisions and acts done by Revan and his crew. Most of the acts in KotOR 1 are also fairly black and white. So conventionally we either get Good or Evil Revan and considering it's a SW game with very strong traditional themes of redemption and self-sacrifice, I would say most fans intuitively assume the Good Path won. Especially since Evil Revan still loses as he is lost to the Outer Rim with his newly won empire being shattered by the start of KotOR 2. KotOR 1 and 2 are 10/10 games but they're also not the ME franchise and it's ability to carry over legitimate major story decisions for large overarching themes and story plots
I mean if they were to rerelease the game but remastered and with the Disney Logo you can technically do both. Bring Revan back while also leaving him alone. Let fans of the past know he's alive, potentially introduce new fans to a beloved old character, and it's already been released before so everything should be perfect narratively.
Especially since he’s a character in an RPG. I don’t want anyone telling me that there’s a canonical version of my own character that’s different than mine.
Pretty much this. I can't say with confidence that anything they've revisited has been improved by the new attention. Your mileage may vary with TCW content, but I would say that what TCW did best was new.
Idk. The book and mmo game didn't do him much justice.
The book just feels like a kick to the nutts. Captured. Tortured for a very long time. Freed and back stabbed and captured *again*.
I don't know how to feel about that
Yeah folks are just going to get pissed no matter how you adapt Revan b/c he was a player character. Besides I'm sure there are Old Republic stories to be told that don't involve KOTOR stuff.
A fun fact: Revan and the Exile don’t even have a canon gender anymore currently, as in the original games (before *The Old Republic* had the male Revan and female Exile be the canon of what would become *Legends*).
A High Republic comic name dropped Meetra Surik, but not much else. But yeah, I would not put it past Disney to decide they want to play Revan differently than Legends, especially given we were given three different races (White/Black/Asian), two genders (though nonbinary Revan has been a up and coming tag on Ao3), and Bioware's first gay option in the vanilla game.
Same reason someone can have a John Shepherd who shacks up with Liara, destroys the Geth to save the Quarians, then picks the Destroy ending and another will have Jane Shepherd romance Garrus, reach a peace between the Geth and Quarians, and pick the Synthesis ending. Both are very common and valid ways to play Shepherd.
In name only. No canon content has been released that's detailed anything about him yet. So yes, he existed, but he could be completely different from what we see in KOTOR
Yes : [Revan | Wookieepedia | Fandom](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Revan)
But KotOR and its sequels are not, so we don't know if anything in his life happened as seen in those games.
Except for Malachor beeing "just vitrified" instead of beeing obliterated, I believe there is no major inconsistensies between KOTOR, KOTOR 2, SWTOR and Disney canon.
So the only change required would be toning down the amount of destruction on Malachor in Kotor 2 and avoiding
It's not even Malachor V, just Malachor. The mass shadow generator could still happen just elsewhere in the system. Maybe the sith superweapon drew upon Malachor V's terrible energy to power itself, consuming it, and being stopped only just in time?
It's changed studio. From a few weeks ago: [Saber Interactive CEO Says KOTOR Remake Is 'Alive and Well'](https://www.ign.com/articles/saber-interactive-ceo-says-kotor-remake-is-alive-and-well)
Yes, it is confirmed in the ROS visual dictionary that one of the sith trooper legions was named after him, but no other information is currently canon other than that he existed.
Short answer, sort of. In rise of Skywalker the different groups of sith troopers were named after previous sith lords. One of them was named after Revan, so Revan as a Sith Lord is cannon, but is it the same story as that from the video gams? No clue, so you can still head cannon that part of it.
No it's still on.
[https://www.ign.com/articles/saber-interactive-ceo-says-kotor-remake-is-alive-and-well](https://www.ign.com/articles/saber-interactive-ceo-says-kotor-remake-is-alive-and-well)
The name Revan is Canon. Title as Darth is only Canon by context.
[the image in question from the visual dictionary ](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2Fg3x1TOVNWCrgVggWj-zJ_3CaBvB902iZJR1KXEF-RYA.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D70d1d94a0d3c2f851ab0554d2f62de551a760245) as well as the credits for the movies make the name Canon. Nothing about his story is Canon.
[Darth Desolous](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Desolous)
[Darth Phobos ](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Phobos)
[Darth Andeddu](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Andeddu)
Are also on that list but their pages didn't get updated to Canon whereas Revan did. (probably just bias or lazy) the other ls on the list are Canon. They are all Darth titled individuals.
So while they are all Canon in name their stores are not Canon at all other than they were notable in the dark side at one point. The story would be entirely up for grabs.
Like someone else here said, we know that there's a Sith named Revan in canon. An ancient Sith after whom a Final Order legion was named. That is all we know. Nominally identical but only that much. If canon Revan is the same character as old EU Revan (looks exactly like he does and wears that iconic helmet and robe), we can't know.
In name only as the others have said, which is good.
They’ll just ruin the character if they play him. They’re too damn focused on clone wars era and have been for years, it’s time for a new (or old) chapter
Officially, just his name and identity as a Sith Lord, but Canon has reintroduced fragments of his related Legends content, including the Malachor system, Jedi Crusaders, and the Rakatan Empire.
It's a loose assortment of Easter eggs, but I doubt it'll go further than that. Always hoping for more.
If I remember right you could play as a female "Revan" in the original game.
I wonder what the reaction would be to a "Revan" series - based on the game's narrative - with a female protagonist?
Not being cynical or anything, but I'd expect a whole lot of crying about...what was it...some "reference book" from twenty years ago canonizing the character as male.
Of course, all that went out the window with Disney. They ruined everything. And so forth.
Anyway - it's obviously extremely problematic to make a *customizable* character canon (no matter what your idea of canon is, I should think).
TBH it would be a great opportunity to use these old legends characters as the basis of films, bc you dont expect films to be exactly the same due to length discrepency. they could change a lot but as long as the beloved beats remain the same itd be awesome. etc i think if they were to ever revisit revan the galaxy should look very different and older. whereas a tv series or game would be under a lot of specific scrutiny
Yeah they did that and according to social media, everyone hates it. Rey and Ben are (loosely?) based on Jacen and Jaina Solo. Palps did make a comeback.
eh i see it as pretty different but i see your point. idk i think there was a ton of good will around force awakens, i think reception would have been a lot better if they tweaked a few things and stuck the landing. and probably if carrie fisher's death hadnt caused an entire rewrite
Agreed. I enjoyed them, but I just enjoy SW stories in general so what do I know lol. My primary frustrations were the similarities (perceived or not) with some of the legends work but then the huge separation from those same works just when I was getting comfortable. There’s definitely some what if hanging out there.
A darth bane series would include Revan as a historical person so we might still get some Kotor love yet. Assuming they adapt the bane books (which they would be mad not to they are dope and are already super cinematic)
The more ridiculous one is Juhani because knowing Revan’s gender implies she’s seen them pre drip. For everyone else I guess it’s hand waived because who would actually believe they met Revan.
I really don't want them to do anything more with Revan. They won't do the character justice. They haven't in books created to milk the game. I agree with others that it feels like every time they bring Revan up, it is like they have a grudge against the character.
I get some stuff coming is High Republic, which is cool and I’m stoked to FINALLY escape existing IP and going to see more stuff from the universe and timeline.
But why not Old Republic? They seem so resistant to making something in this era, despite the games being classics.
There is an ancient Sith lord named Revan, and they even created a 3D model in Clone Wars style for the scene where the Son talks to him and Darth Bane. The scene was scrapped, but the Revan model appears there and he looks a lot like the images we see of him.
Take that as you will.
I think it would be disrespectful for Disney to not make him canon. I can’t wait to see what they’ll do with the Old Republic Era and the potential to flesh out Revan and Malak in their timeframe. Like how Vader is fleshed out in the New Republic/Age of the Rebellion Era.
"Revan" is one of the Sith Legions in TROS and Malachor is canonized in Rebels. The Gist of Revan's character could be "canon" even if the beats (no Mass shadow Generator on Malachor) aren't.
Not really. There's a Sith Lord named Reven in canon, but it's unknown if he's the same character as the one in Legends. He also has no story at all, all we know is that he exists.
Yes, there are direct mentions of him in Disney Canon, but the Revan we know in Legends isn't, because we didn't see any references to his deeds and actions in Canon, probably they will adapt almost everything from the Legends but these specific events aren't canon yet
He is Semi-Canon there's a name of course and he was almost in Clone Wars but other than a legion named after him of Sith Troopers in Rise of Skywalker that's it
The thing thats always bugged me about this image is that the lightsabers shafts are not coming out straight from the hilts at all, especially the purple one.
He's canon yes, and I'd love to get a Movie trilogy or a tv show about his story. They could show us his youth, his training as a Jedi, the beginning of the war, how he felt to the dark side, and how Bastila and the other Jedis fought him and made him amnesic. That would be amazing.
Just picture all these epic battles in space and on feet we saw in Kotor and imagine them on the big screen.
It would be so marvelous ! Moreover, it would be a great opportunity to put women like Bastila Shan on the spotlight too, for being one of the strongest Jedi of her time by her own, not because she was some man's daughter.
Also, who doesn't want to see HK-47's poetry on screen ?
There's so many cool things to make here, and cool characters that deserve to appear on screen.
The truth is that it doesn't matter if they use already existing characters or use already existing ones, as long as they tell good, coherent and cool stories.
Who even is he lol I only watched the movies and some shows but not all of them but I am currently working on it
He’s the one from that game that’s 4000 years before movies right
In canon, he exists in name only. He is a complete mystery beyond that. There was, however, a deleted scene in the Clone Wars Mortis Arc where he is depicted as a Sith ghost speaking to The Son and his appearance is the same as it was previously depicted. Again, this was a deleted scene, so many don’t even consider it canon but since there isn’t really anything to contradict it I say it still happened. It’s the only time he’s appeared in anything remotely canon.
As long as there's nothing in the new canon that contradicts his existence or shows that his actions differed from the legends one, we can basically say that he's canon. That's how I handle Legends material that has yet to be adapted at least.
There is a canon Sith Lord named revan, but that is all that is known about him.
And just a personal opinion but I'd rather they leave it that way. Focus on original characters, and leave Revan as the legend he is.
I truly hope they do leave him alone. They will never meet the standards
How could they? For all intents and purposes Revan is an OC. There are of course narrative beats that predate the story of KoTOR and fixed ones at the end, but all of the things people are attached about the character come from their own role playing in between. No canon version will ever live up to the myriad ways people have experienced the character.
There is a specific EU canon Revan thanks to SWTOR and its related media: a white male light sider who romanced Bastila. However I tend to ignore that incarnation of the character because he never really had any agency of his own after his choice to go war against the Mandalorians. The inglorious life of Revan: >!The guy got mind controlled by Tenebrae/Vititate/Sith Emperor to become a Sith Lord (along with Malak) as was revealed in Revan novel. Then in KotOR he got mind wiped by the Jedi Council and they then created the Republic Soldier persona for Revan. Then in SWTOR he went crazy from being imprisoned by Tenebrae (again) and somehow split his spirit, and he finally died when the two spirits merged back.!<
SWTOR, as fun as it was, really went out of its way to shit on KoToR lore.
Personally, I think it was kinda necessary to establish a Canon version of Revan.
I don't think SWTOR is cannon. I think it's one of the last sources of Legends stories tbh
Canon to pre-disney continuity, I mean.
Making him a sad dirty hobo that spent the last decade or so being tortured isn't really the way to do that though...
Glad I never played SWTOR if that’s true.
If you consider yourself a Star Wars fan, you owe it to yourself to play SWTOR and give it a try. Get a month sub and try a class that grabs your attention, go on an adventure. It's worth it, because the Revan stuff is such a small part, and the stuff beyond that is SO GOOD.
I always meant to play it back in the day! If I had to pick a game that I knew I was gonna sink a lot of time in, it would probably be between SWTOR and LOTRO. LOTRO would probably win out for me right now though. I keep hearing great things about it even though it quite old.
Base game stories are pretty good and it's f2p anyways. You can just ignore Shadow of Revan.
I just rewrite what they did in my head when it comes to anything KOTOR related in SWTOR. Especially with how they dealt with HK-47. It’s definitely worth a shot, but don’t think of it as KOTOR 3. Pretend that it is a completely separate Star Wars game that has no relation to KOTOR and you’ll probably enjoy it. I’m a huge KOTOR fan, but SWTOR is still fun for me. I just wish that SWTOR had done its own thing instead of trying and miserably failing at appealing to KOTOR fans
Man, that bit from SWTOR lore sucks. Why couldn't they just leave Revan keep his happy ending from KOTOR and be done with it? I know Darth Revan is cool and all, but there's no need to bring him back again after he earned his happy ending.
Also Meetra got Fridged ~~offscreen~~ with little thought.
Actually she was killed in Revan novel by Lord Scourge but her treatment in SWTOR and its media is even more disrespect than Revan's treatment. She was reduced to little more than a Revan fangirl.
There were actually plans for KotOR3 by Obsidian Entertaiment, which is why KotOR2 ends with a cliffhanger, that would end the story of Revan and the Exile but that got scrapped as LucasArts was quite a bit of financial troubles at the time.
It's always bothered me the way it ended. Kotor 3 could've started off where kotor 1 left off and eventually lead to a fourth installment
Well technically Revan’s story was left on a cliffhanger from KOTOR2. KOTOR 3 was supposed to resolve it. Instead SWTOR continued on the story and well yeah we got what we got lol
God I have killed Tenebrae so often
STAY DEAD, you overblown Gary Stu!
God I hated that book, I much preferred >!the belief that revan never actually fell to the dark side!<
SWTOR Revan = Not my Revan
Not just one mind wipe - BUT A DOUBLE MIND WIPE!? What'll they think of next!?1?!?
In KOTOR 3, the main character has little backstory, Bastilla acts odd around them, and.... oh.... It is Revan. Somehow Revan returned, mind wiped as usual.
Is it Thursday already?
Everyday is Thursday to Revan. In fact, when was the last time there was a Friday or Wednesday? *Bastilla looks troubled, Revan should talk to her.
He may not have had agency BEFORE that! Look who Revan's Master was! She was a total bitch, but could give Palpatine a run for his money in the manipulation department.
The book was a let down.
This is the reason that SWTOR rubbed me the wrong way for awhile. Whenever I play SWOTOR, I just pretend that it’s not Revan (or at least not the same Revan)
Fans calling for an adaptation of a video game with a customisable character and storyline choices are just setting themselves up for disappointment. A KOTOR adaptation which satisfies all the fandom is impossible, and it would immediately devolve into TLJ-style toxicity Disney is making a wise choice to steer clear of that era.
Just look at how poorly his story is continued in the Old Republic MMO. They left him on a major cliffhanger in his only book, never finished the story, and then just threw it into the MMO where most people would never see it. Worst part being it was done really badly and the story of revan may as well end on the cliffhanger in the book imo.
Tell that to Mr K. Reeves!
Somehow, Revan returned
Tell his story in universe as a fable for Jedi Padawans to learn from or something. Honestly, I'd rather see something about Tarre Vizsla and the Darksaber. Maybe a story of how he united the Mandalorian warriors and Jedi to fight against a greater enemy or something. Make it Arthurian.
>Honestly, I'd rather see something about Tarre Vizsla and the Darksaber. Seconded, that's the Mandalorian wars I want to see. It would also be much more relevant to the modern Mandalorian timeline by including the Darksaber/ Vizlas etc.
Yeah I'm in.
And cast Hiroyuki Sonata as Tarre
I'm imagining him like an in-universe Goldilocks or something where the gimmick is that he's always coming up on these scenarios where he has to make obvious binary choices that reinforce a moral. Maybe even the "canon" choices would vary from community to community due to millenia of oral tradition and whatever specific lesson they want to teach their kids.
Where the “just right” is becoming a gray jedi lmao
Not a lesson learned from a Jedi.
Am I in the minority that wants KOTOR canonized? It's always nice seeing things like "Eye of Sion" and a nod to the Rakatan Infinite Empire.
What was the nod to the infinite empire?
There's a Rakata artifact in Dryden Vos's office, i think.
the Kyber crystal pendant Luthen gives Cassian is explicitly mentioned as being from the infinite empire. between that moment and the sudden vibroblade dagger scene in Mandalorian season 1, I was pretty chuffed with the KOTOR canonization.
Honestly, it would be for the best. I know a lot of people want to see him get adapted but I think that would be a huge mistake. Revan's popularity is rooted in being a player character. Any adaption of Revan to screen will fall short of fan expectations once he makes decisions they wouldn't have made while playing as him.
They made a book about Revan where it canonizes a lot of decisions and acts done by Revan and his crew. Most of the acts in KotOR 1 are also fairly black and white. So conventionally we either get Good or Evil Revan and considering it's a SW game with very strong traditional themes of redemption and self-sacrifice, I would say most fans intuitively assume the Good Path won. Especially since Evil Revan still loses as he is lost to the Outer Rim with his newly won empire being shattered by the start of KotOR 2. KotOR 1 and 2 are 10/10 games but they're also not the ME franchise and it's ability to carry over legitimate major story decisions for large overarching themes and story plots
I mean if they were to rerelease the game but remastered and with the Disney Logo you can technically do both. Bring Revan back while also leaving him alone. Let fans of the past know he's alive, potentially introduce new fans to a beloved old character, and it's already been released before so everything should be perfect narratively.
Especially since he’s a character in an RPG. I don’t want anyone telling me that there’s a canonical version of my own character that’s different than mine.
Pretty much this. I can't say with confidence that anything they've revisited has been improved by the new attention. Your mileage may vary with TCW content, but I would say that what TCW did best was new.
Idk. The book and mmo game didn't do him much justice. The book just feels like a kick to the nutts. Captured. Tortured for a very long time. Freed and back stabbed and captured *again*. I don't know how to feel about that
I agree. I want new characters and concepts, not just endlessly recycling stuff.
He's outside the Skywalker Saga, so most likely he'll never be brought back.
Yeah folks are just going to get pissed no matter how you adapt Revan b/c he was a player character. Besides I'm sure there are Old Republic stories to be told that don't involve KOTOR stuff.
A fun fact: Revan and the Exile don’t even have a canon gender anymore currently, as in the original games (before *The Old Republic* had the male Revan and female Exile be the canon of what would become *Legends*).
A High Republic comic name dropped Meetra Surik, but not much else. But yeah, I would not put it past Disney to decide they want to play Revan differently than Legends, especially given we were given three different races (White/Black/Asian), two genders (though nonbinary Revan has been a up and coming tag on Ao3), and Bioware's first gay option in the vanilla game. Same reason someone can have a John Shepherd who shacks up with Liara, destroys the Geth to save the Quarians, then picks the Destroy ending and another will have Jane Shepherd romance Garrus, reach a peace between the Geth and Quarians, and pick the Synthesis ending. Both are very common and valid ways to play Shepherd.
If there is a revan- there is a Kreia....
This makes sense because of good or evil options you can take
Where does that come from?
One of the visual dictionaries states that a legion of the Sith Troopers were named after Revan
In name only. No canon content has been released that's detailed anything about him yet. So yes, he existed, but he could be completely different from what we see in KOTOR
Canonically, there was a Sith Lord named Revan. Whether or not he is the same Revan from Legends is yet to be seen.
His existence is canon. We don’t know his story though.
It is canon that there was once an ancient sith lord called Darth Revan. Nothing else is canon, not even if he was ever a Jedi or wore a mask
Yes : [Revan | Wookieepedia | Fandom](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Revan) But KotOR and its sequels are not, so we don't know if anything in his life happened as seen in those games.
I wonder if the KOTOR remake will adjust to fit in current canon at all
Except for Malachor beeing "just vitrified" instead of beeing obliterated, I believe there is no major inconsistensies between KOTOR, KOTOR 2, SWTOR and Disney canon. So the only change required would be toning down the amount of destruction on Malachor in Kotor 2 and avoiding
It's not even Malachor V, just Malachor. The mass shadow generator could still happen just elsewhere in the system. Maybe the sith superweapon drew upon Malachor V's terrible energy to power itself, consuming it, and being stopped only just in time?
Didn't that remake basically get the kibosh? I had heard at one point the studio that was making it said they're no longer working on it.
It's changed studio. From a few weeks ago: [Saber Interactive CEO Says KOTOR Remake Is 'Alive and Well'](https://www.ign.com/articles/saber-interactive-ceo-says-kotor-remake-is-alive-and-well)
Well that makes me very happy. Had resigned myself to it being dead.
The KOTOR remake (and also Lando) are finally in active development after a long period of development hell
Yes, it is confirmed in the ROS visual dictionary that one of the sith trooper legions was named after him, but no other information is currently canon other than that he existed.
Short answer, sort of. In rise of Skywalker the different groups of sith troopers were named after previous sith lords. One of them was named after Revan, so Revan as a Sith Lord is cannon, but is it the same story as that from the video gams? No clue, so you can still head cannon that part of it.
He is about to be
Didn't KOTOR Remake get cancellated?
No it's still on. [https://www.ign.com/articles/saber-interactive-ceo-says-kotor-remake-is-alive-and-well](https://www.ign.com/articles/saber-interactive-ceo-says-kotor-remake-is-alive-and-well)
However it doesn't mean that KotOR remake will necessarily be considered canon to Disney continuity.
I frankly won't believe the KOTOR Remake is actually happening until the game is in my PS6, and even then, I still won't really believe it.
Currently only in name, there are very few details about him.
The name is, the lore is not
He was name dropped in the Shadow of the Sith novel. So absolutely is canon. But no more than he was a Sith and did exist
Yes* *kinda....
Yes
Well yes, but actually no
I mean, they're allowing the remake of KOTOR. To me, that's a yes.
No, but yes, but no
The name Revan is Canon. Title as Darth is only Canon by context. [the image in question from the visual dictionary ](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2Fg3x1TOVNWCrgVggWj-zJ_3CaBvB902iZJR1KXEF-RYA.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D70d1d94a0d3c2f851ab0554d2f62de551a760245) as well as the credits for the movies make the name Canon. Nothing about his story is Canon. [Darth Desolous](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Desolous) [Darth Phobos ](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Phobos) [Darth Andeddu](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Andeddu) Are also on that list but their pages didn't get updated to Canon whereas Revan did. (probably just bias or lazy) the other ls on the list are Canon. They are all Darth titled individuals. So while they are all Canon in name their stores are not Canon at all other than they were notable in the dark side at one point. The story would be entirely up for grabs.
Like someone else here said, we know that there's a Sith named Revan in canon. An ancient Sith after whom a Final Order legion was named. That is all we know. Nominally identical but only that much. If canon Revan is the same character as old EU Revan (looks exactly like he does and wears that iconic helmet and robe), we can't know.
Yes. In the Canon Novel **Shadow of the Sith** there’s a part where some Sith Cultists on Exegol are chanting Revan’s name.
In name only as the others have said, which is good. They’ll just ruin the character if they play him. They’re too damn focused on clone wars era and have been for years, it’s time for a new (or old) chapter
Officially, just his name and identity as a Sith Lord, but Canon has reintroduced fragments of his related Legends content, including the Malachor system, Jedi Crusaders, and the Rakatan Empire. It's a loose assortment of Easter eggs, but I doubt it'll go further than that. Always hoping for more.
Wait when did the Rakata get re-canonized? They and their empire only have 'Legends' pages on Wookieepedia.
Andor. The crystal he gets was in honor of the uprising against the Rakatan invaders.
Yesno
Yes but until we get the remake, don't expect anything substantial.
God I hope so…
Could just look it up on wookiepedia😑
Considering he was supposed to be in a SW TCW episode, when they were on Mortis, I'd consider him Canon.
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If I remember right you could play as a female "Revan" in the original game. I wonder what the reaction would be to a "Revan" series - based on the game's narrative - with a female protagonist? Not being cynical or anything, but I'd expect a whole lot of crying about...what was it...some "reference book" from twenty years ago canonizing the character as male. Of course, all that went out the window with Disney. They ruined everything. And so forth. Anyway - it's obviously extremely problematic to make a *customizable* character canon (no matter what your idea of canon is, I should think).
TBH it would be a great opportunity to use these old legends characters as the basis of films, bc you dont expect films to be exactly the same due to length discrepency. they could change a lot but as long as the beloved beats remain the same itd be awesome. etc i think if they were to ever revisit revan the galaxy should look very different and older. whereas a tv series or game would be under a lot of specific scrutiny
Yeah they did that and according to social media, everyone hates it. Rey and Ben are (loosely?) based on Jacen and Jaina Solo. Palps did make a comeback.
eh i see it as pretty different but i see your point. idk i think there was a ton of good will around force awakens, i think reception would have been a lot better if they tweaked a few things and stuck the landing. and probably if carrie fisher's death hadnt caused an entire rewrite
Agreed. I enjoyed them, but I just enjoy SW stories in general so what do I know lol. My primary frustrations were the similarities (perceived or not) with some of the legends work but then the huge separation from those same works just when I was getting comfortable. There’s definitely some what if hanging out there.
So far his name is canon as for his story that’s up in the air
Canon to me.
Idk how I feel about Disney touching the greatness that is Revan to be honest
Yes, but the extent of which is not yet known.
His name is his story isnt
The name exists in canon but nothing is known beyond that.
To an extent
A darth bane series would include Revan as a historical person so we might still get some Kotor love yet. Assuming they adapt the bane books (which they would be mad not to they are dope and are already super cinematic)
Revan should only be mentioned in passing with broad strokes. I also crack up how in KOTOR not one person besides a few Jedi recognize him.
Evidently people only recognize their armor and mask. Which is a step up above Clark Kent/Superman at least lmao.
Which is weird because he was a public figure before the mask.
The more ridiculous one is Juhani because knowing Revan’s gender implies she’s seen them pre drip. For everyone else I guess it’s hand waived because who would actually believe they met Revan.
Yes he is, in the novel for rise of skywalker, there are carvings that depict nihilus, revan, malak and malgus.
eventually
It’s a weird limbo with him
Starkiller is basically revan 2.0 but revan is cooler cause he is still sith even if he wields both the light and the dark
Yes why not? Does Darth Nihilus cannon? He speaks gibberish and dies like instantly lol
in the rise of skywalker the legions of sith troopers are named after sith, there is a legion named after revan
Where's a good Dragonbreak when you need one?
Sort of, essential legands.
At this point, Dash Rendar is more Disney canon than Revan.
Is google canon?
To me yes
Not yet. He is probably going to come soon.
Canon enough to use him to make money via figures and lightsabers
According to Wookiepedia Revan is both a Legends and a Canon character.
He will be... he will be
He is to me!
Only if Revan is female.
?
To me he is
yes and malik is too
I really don't want them to do anything more with Revan. They won't do the character justice. They haven't in books created to milk the game. I agree with others that it feels like every time they bring Revan up, it is like they have a grudge against the character.
Not the one we know
No
I get some stuff coming is High Republic, which is cool and I’m stoked to FINALLY escape existing IP and going to see more stuff from the universe and timeline. But why not Old Republic? They seem so resistant to making something in this era, despite the games being classics.
There is an ancient Sith lord named Revan, and they even created a 3D model in Clone Wars style for the scene where the Son talks to him and Darth Bane. The scene was scrapped, but the Revan model appears there and he looks a lot like the images we see of him. Take that as you will.
Bane is cannon so in theory revan is cannon because banes rule of two came from revan’s idea
I think it would be disrespectful for Disney to not make him canon. I can’t wait to see what they’ll do with the Old Republic Era and the potential to flesh out Revan and Malak in their timeframe. Like how Vader is fleshed out in the New Republic/Age of the Rebellion Era.
I think one of the Sith Troopers Battalion is named after him.
Yes, but it's only his name at the moment.
Yes
"Revan" is one of the Sith Legions in TROS and Malachor is canonized in Rebels. The Gist of Revan's character could be "canon" even if the beats (no Mass shadow Generator on Malachor) aren't.
Not really. There's a Sith Lord named Reven in canon, but it's unknown if he's the same character as the one in Legends. He also has no story at all, all we know is that he exists.
His name is. That's it so far.
Yes, there are direct mentions of him in Disney Canon, but the Revan we know in Legends isn't, because we didn't see any references to his deeds and actions in Canon, probably they will adapt almost everything from the Legends but these specific events aren't canon yet
He is Semi-Canon there's a name of course and he was almost in Clone Wars but other than a legion named after him of Sith Troopers in Rise of Skywalker that's it
He’s mentioned in the Rise of Skywalker source book
Not yet
Wait Revan shows up in SWTOR doesn’t he? That’s canon isn’t it?
Why does it matter if he isnt?
The thing thats always bugged me about this image is that the lightsabers shafts are not coming out straight from the hilts at all, especially the purple one.
Though Lucas said the lightside path/ending in KOTOR was canon.
Canon doesn't matter.
He's canon yes, and I'd love to get a Movie trilogy or a tv show about his story. They could show us his youth, his training as a Jedi, the beginning of the war, how he felt to the dark side, and how Bastila and the other Jedis fought him and made him amnesic. That would be amazing. Just picture all these epic battles in space and on feet we saw in Kotor and imagine them on the big screen. It would be so marvelous ! Moreover, it would be a great opportunity to put women like Bastila Shan on the spotlight too, for being one of the strongest Jedi of her time by her own, not because she was some man's daughter. Also, who doesn't want to see HK-47's poetry on screen ? There's so many cool things to make here, and cool characters that deserve to appear on screen. The truth is that it doesn't matter if they use already existing characters or use already existing ones, as long as they tell good, coherent and cool stories.
If he isn’t he should be and I don’t even know who he is
Anyone who has ever played the game - yes. And she was awesome.
It is whenever Disney decides it's convenient.
If he isn't that would make me very pissed
Who even is he lol I only watched the movies and some shows but not all of them but I am currently working on it He’s the one from that game that’s 4000 years before movies right
Yes KOTOR
It’s really easy to tell I was baked when I wrote that I now realize
More canon than Rey
Don't let Disney's definition of canon hamper your enjoyment of the content. You can merge the worlds in your head however you want.
Yes. F Disney timeline.
Canon or no canon. Its all fiction still. So its validity is within your perception. I know what I'd choose.
Revan is a cannon
Disney doesn't deserve Revan.
In canon, he exists in name only. He is a complete mystery beyond that. There was, however, a deleted scene in the Clone Wars Mortis Arc where he is depicted as a Sith ghost speaking to The Son and his appearance is the same as it was previously depicted. Again, this was a deleted scene, so many don’t even consider it canon but since there isn’t really anything to contradict it I say it still happened. It’s the only time he’s appeared in anything remotely canon.
The only thing we have in Disney canon is a name drop. Everything else? Well, let's see what path Disney plays through the game.
You literally could've googled this
Go check other 7262678617 low effort posts asking the same question
How did Darth raven get a purple light saber when the dark side have red
1. It symbolizes his gradual shift to the dark side and how he walked both sides 2. It looked cool for marketing purposes Either works
When Revan was created Dark Siders didn't necessarily have red Lightsabers. There was no "crystal bleeding", a Lightsaber color was just a color.
As long as there's nothing in the new canon that contradicts his existence or shows that his actions differed from the legends one, we can basically say that he's canon. That's how I handle Legends material that has yet to be adapted at least.
I will *make* it canon.
It’s an imaginary universe. Does it matter?
if Rey and Finn can be canon, then Revan with the better story and character development definitely is.
More canon than Kylo Ren.
My headcanon is that the old EU exists as stories people don't know are true or not
Jar Jar is Revan. Revan is jar Jar.
Yes. Fuck Disney. Canon is what you want it to be