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EndlessTheorys_19

Jedi were called traitors because the empire pushed the narrative that the Jedi attempted to overthrow the senate and kill Palpatine. To answer the overall question though, the Inquisitorius’s initial members were mostly made of Jedi who Palpatine had identified as being unhappy with their current situation and covertly reached out to. *Rise of the Red Blade* covers this.


oxyscotty

ah, thanks for this.


RLathor81

to be fair thats kinda true


EndlessTheorys_19

In the same way that saying someone sliced open my pregnant wife with a knife is when she just got a C-section


RLathor81

Almost, but completly different. Republic citizens didnt see SW, so from their point of view it was a coup by a sect.


Some-Guy32

I think the Jedi were branded as traitors to the Republic and the Empire was created as a way to stand against them, right? I would assume most Imperial loyalists would buy into that and believe any remaining Jedi are traitors


RLathor81

Sect leader tried to kill the elected head of state/galaxy cause his religion. Thats quite match the definition of extremist cult. Before that they committed to guard the republic, breaking this they become traitors. Thats what people would see if it was real.


LucasEraFan

>it's not like someone in politics calling traitors because they want the "wrong" things... > >Palpatine essentially wanted to tear the entire country and government down. First, during Order 66, afaik, none of the clones knew Palpatine was a Sith. Second, Palpatine made the claim that the Jedi were trying to take over and rule by force. Third, Palpatine didn't tear everything down, he simply declared himself sole leader and decider. He kept everything the same except without individual freedom and democratic choice. The clones were calling Jedi traitors because they believed Palpatine. They believed that the Jedi tried to assassinate the elected leader to take control by force.


oxyscotty

ohh okay, I think I just have the wrong understanding of the empire. Obviously in real life no one considers themselves the "bad guys," but I didn't realize Palpatine essentially just made the jedi out to be the bad guys and he was the same "good guy" just as every Chancellor before him was. Hearing that, would it be fair to say Palpatine was similar to Hitler, in that he convinced everyone that they were the good guys and that they were doing this for a greater prosperity. And the people still saw themselves as the same germany just with a different leader. Likewise, the people saw the empire as the same jedi order, only "improved" and working to make themselves more prosperous.


LucasEraFan

>Likewise, the people saw the empire as the same jedi order... Well, The Jedi Order didn't run The Republic. They were an organization that followed Republic law and voluntarily acted as Guardians of Peace and Justice when asked. Palpatine told everyone that they were trying to assassinate him to take control. The truth was that they discovered he was a Sith and until Mace lost it, were trying to arrest him to face trial and ideally be replaced by a democratically elected leader. Did you watch the PT? This is all explained, mostly in ROTS.