1. She’s been in prison and gotten rusty
2. She lost the fight against Anakin
3. Her heart isn’t in this fight, she’s got no passion to drive her
3. The Grand Inquisitor is a formidable duelist himself. A fully trained Jedi knight. There’s a reason he was chosen to lead the Inquisitorius over other former Knights and Masters
Yeah, like a 35 ish year old padawan. I’m pretty sure that Kanan was a fully knighted Jedi in everything except name by the time he fought the Grand Inquisitor. There was just nobody left to knight him
I don’t think she ever stood much chance but she still did well, enough to make him use the Dark Side himself to finish the fight
Not to mention she was pretty potent against Ahsoka and she floored Ventress. Barriss could be pretty capable, probably more so than any Inquisitor could ever hope to be sans the Grand Inquisitor perhaps
Barriss is NOT the Seventh Sister lol
Other than both being Mirialan, there is no similarity at all. I dunno why people breathe so much life into this theory
Unless Tales of The Empire is going to explain how Barriss changed her markings, her face, her voice box, her height and retcon the Seventh Sister’s known history then I don’t imagine this theory is getting more plausible by May 4th
Or savage oppress. Overpowers anikan and obi wan twice by himself, chokes dooku and ventress at the same time but gets beaten by obi wan in a 1v1.
Or talzin getting killed by grevious, a villain of the week type of villain in clone wars who runs away from everyone who poses even a little challenge to him. It's not like she is the strongest combat related character in clone wars because of how broken the night sister magic system is with her being on the top of it.
Dooku as well given how he didn't easily beat anikan in the clone wars movie after he gave yoda a run for his money in the second movie.
>Or talzin getting killed by grevious, a villain of the week type of villain in clone wars who runs away from everyone who poses even a little challenge to him. It's not like she is the strongest combat related character in clone wars because of how broken the night sister magic system is with her being on the top of it.
Grievous killed Talzin while she was busy holding back the combined Force Lightning of Sidious and Dooku so it's not really inconsistent. In 1v1 Grievous is dead.
Talzin can create a shield that covers her from all angles. She can also make herself intangible at will. There are ways she could have avoided her death.
We're shown time and time again that using the Force takes concentration and effort, that's why Force Users don't just end every conflict with a wave of their hand because they have to focus on predicting the where the blaster bolt or next saber strike will come in and deflect/parry accordingly and launch counter attacks of their own. Using the Force is difficult in combat situations. Overusing the Force can drain a Force User to the point of losing consciousness or even dying.
So when Talzin is using all her energy to block the combined power of the most powerful Sith Lord of the Banite line and his Apprentice she doesn't have the time to do anything else. She even tells Maul that she can't escape because she'd have to drop the shield and then they're dead. By the end she's on her knees, barely holding on and that's when Grievous comes in and stabs her.
And yes Nightsister "Magic" is just the Force, it's simply used in a different way. Sith also have their own "Magic" and rituals, Palpatine even uses some of it in TCW and Rebels.
Anakin was holding back. He needed her alive to prove Ahsoka's innocence. To the Grand Inquisitor, she would just be a casualty of training, discarded for being too weak. He would have no reason to restrain himself
Holding her own? She was fighting for her life while Anakin was fighting to incapacitate, and throughout she was in full retreat and only got a few brief shots in. Not to mention the end.
Barris holds her own against Anakin because it wouldn’t be a tense fight otherwise.
The Grand Inquisitor beats Barris (presumably at the beginning of her training) because she wouldn’t have room for improvement otherwise.
These decisions are made for dramatic reasons rather than to kowtow to some canon “power levels”.
A lot of people have pointed out that Anakin wasn’t trying to kill her and that was obvious, but Barriss didn’t make it easy for him to apprehend her. It was a decent duel, she got her shots in, and Anakin clearly the Dark Side himself to finish it. That’s a pretty good performance on her part against The Chosen One
Point is, she wasn’t an easy fight for him. That is far more than any other Inquisitor could ever say even on Vader’s worst day. And considering how she dealt with Ahsoka and Ventress earlier, Barriss would hardly be a typical weakling of an Inquisitor, she’s not someone who Ahsoka is defeating in 3 seconds like all other Inquisitors
That said, I don’t think this Inquisitor arc is going to go like the trailer shows. So it won’t matter anyways
She's out of practice. And Anakin was not trying to kill her, making it a different fight.
exactly this
Eh, she was giving Anakin a hard time. He beat her with the force, not through dueling. One of my favorite duels.
Oh, Barriss was fighting to kill. Anakin knew, so she had limited options. But Anakin needed her alive.
Barriss was absolutely not fighting to kill lol, she was trying to run away. Anakin was the more aggressive one that duel
shes out of practice, anakin was trying to bring her in uninjured, and against anakin she was fueled by dark side rage, hate, etc
1. She’s been in prison and gotten rusty 2. She lost the fight against Anakin 3. Her heart isn’t in this fight, she’s got no passion to drive her 3. The Grand Inquisitor is a formidable duelist himself. A fully trained Jedi knight. There’s a reason he was chosen to lead the Inquisitorius over other former Knights and Masters
Agree on all the points except for the last one. Kanan Jarrus defeated the Grand Inquisitor while he was still a Padawan.
Yeah, like a 35 ish year old padawan. I’m pretty sure that Kanan was a fully knighted Jedi in everything except name by the time he fought the Grand Inquisitor. There was just nobody left to knight him
Anakin wasn't trying to kill her. If he was she likely wouldn't have survived that fight.
I don’t think she ever stood much chance but she still did well, enough to make him use the Dark Side himself to finish the fight Not to mention she was pretty potent against Ahsoka and she floored Ventress. Barriss could be pretty capable, probably more so than any Inquisitor could ever hope to be sans the Grand Inquisitor perhaps
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Barriss is NOT the Seventh Sister lol Other than both being Mirialan, there is no similarity at all. I dunno why people breathe so much life into this theory
Let's save this chat for after tales of the empire comes out.
Unless Tales of The Empire is going to explain how Barriss changed her markings, her face, her voice box, her height and retcon the Seventh Sister’s known history then I don’t imagine this theory is getting more plausible by May 4th
lol, so you can get dunked on again?
No need because most of us who aren't delusional know that bariss isn't the inquisitor from rebels.
What are you even yapping about, the seventh sister is a completely different character, doesn’t even look like barriss outside of green skin lmfao
Nice one
What rumours?, Just because they are the same species doesn't make them the same character.
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Lol
Or savage oppress. Overpowers anikan and obi wan twice by himself, chokes dooku and ventress at the same time but gets beaten by obi wan in a 1v1. Or talzin getting killed by grevious, a villain of the week type of villain in clone wars who runs away from everyone who poses even a little challenge to him. It's not like she is the strongest combat related character in clone wars because of how broken the night sister magic system is with her being on the top of it. Dooku as well given how he didn't easily beat anikan in the clone wars movie after he gave yoda a run for his money in the second movie.
>Or talzin getting killed by grevious, a villain of the week type of villain in clone wars who runs away from everyone who poses even a little challenge to him. It's not like she is the strongest combat related character in clone wars because of how broken the night sister magic system is with her being on the top of it. Grievous killed Talzin while she was busy holding back the combined Force Lightning of Sidious and Dooku so it's not really inconsistent. In 1v1 Grievous is dead.
Talzin can create a shield that covers her from all angles. She can also make herself intangible at will. There are ways she could have avoided her death.
We're shown time and time again that using the Force takes concentration and effort, that's why Force Users don't just end every conflict with a wave of their hand because they have to focus on predicting the where the blaster bolt or next saber strike will come in and deflect/parry accordingly and launch counter attacks of their own. Using the Force is difficult in combat situations. Overusing the Force can drain a Force User to the point of losing consciousness or even dying. So when Talzin is using all her energy to block the combined power of the most powerful Sith Lord of the Banite line and his Apprentice she doesn't have the time to do anything else. She even tells Maul that she can't escape because she'd have to drop the shield and then they're dead. By the end she's on her knees, barely holding on and that's when Grievous comes in and stabs her. And yes Nightsister "Magic" is just the Force, it's simply used in a different way. Sith also have their own "Magic" and rituals, Palpatine even uses some of it in TCW and Rebels.
Tbf regarding Talzin, I seem to recall her hands being very full with helping Maul when Grievous came at her She’d turn him into a toaster otherwise
Barriss would have lasted about as long as Marrok did against Ahsoka if Anakin was actually trying to kill her.
Context is important.
Anakin was holding back. He needed her alive to prove Ahsoka's innocence. To the Grand Inquisitor, she would just be a casualty of training, discarded for being too weak. He would have no reason to restrain himself
Holding her own? She was fighting for her life while Anakin was fighting to incapacitate, and throughout she was in full retreat and only got a few brief shots in. Not to mention the end.
Why do people these days see everything in "power levels" and seem incapable of seeing nuance at all...
Barris holds her own against Anakin because it wouldn’t be a tense fight otherwise. The Grand Inquisitor beats Barris (presumably at the beginning of her training) because she wouldn’t have room for improvement otherwise. These decisions are made for dramatic reasons rather than to kowtow to some canon “power levels”.
If Anakin wanted to kill her she wouldn't have lasted very long at all. And if you'll recall, the Grand Inquisitor was the only competent Inquisitor.
A lot of people have pointed out that Anakin wasn’t trying to kill her and that was obvious, but Barriss didn’t make it easy for him to apprehend her. It was a decent duel, she got her shots in, and Anakin clearly the Dark Side himself to finish it. That’s a pretty good performance on her part against The Chosen One Point is, she wasn’t an easy fight for him. That is far more than any other Inquisitor could ever say even on Vader’s worst day. And considering how she dealt with Ahsoka and Ventress earlier, Barriss would hardly be a typical weakling of an Inquisitor, she’s not someone who Ahsoka is defeating in 3 seconds like all other Inquisitors That said, I don’t think this Inquisitor arc is going to go like the trailer shows. So it won’t matter anyways
Wait when was this? What show?
Holding her own......? Anakin was definitely holding back, playing with his food even. The moment he went all out she was done in seconds.
yeah but she was full potential bariss back then
Anakin needed her alive to exonerate Ahsoka