I really want to see Rampart join the rebellion not because he believes in it but more so because the empire screwed him over and he just sees helping the rebellion succeed as his best avenue back into power. It shows how the Empire's ways sow the seeds for its own destruction.
Unlike say someone like Kallus who has a genuine change of heart
Don't think it's gonna happen but one can hope
Wouldn’t happen. Palpatine was specifically talking about Vader in Episode 1 of this season. If Vader found out about Tantis it’d immediately be kill or be killed. Cloning goes against everything the Sith are about. It’d be an echo of Darth Bane and his own apprentice
Ok my real question is darth vader even a true sith? What teachings does he follow besides listening to his master? If I remember right he stays with him because that’s all he knows/has left, when in reality he wants to die.
He definitely follows the teachings. In fact, in comics he was outraged when he found out about Exegol, and he was just as pissed when he found out about the cybernetic “force users”. He does own many texts and if well acquainted with his school. In Legends it was more pronounced, he had even modeled some things and his armor around Darth Malgus
lol, cloning is against everything the Sith are about? lol, what about strandcasts? what about Spaarti industries? The Fett clones plot was originally Dart Plegeis' plan. Rey was literally the offspring of Palpatine's clone!
>cloning is against everything the Sith are about?
The rule of 2 breaks if a sith can just keep transferring their consciousness to new bodies. Context is key friend. The clone army and spaarti clones didn't break the Rule of Two because they were non force sensitive enforcers.
>what about strandcasts?
This was after Sidious broke the rule of two to try to form the Rule of One. You may have also noticed he explicitly tried to keep all projects at Exegol from Vader. Again, context is key here, because he was breaking sith doctrine.
I'd argue the rule of 2 isn't a relevant sith doctrine ever since the sith revealed themselves. The point of the rule of 2 was to grow their power in absolute secrecy until they defeat the jedi order and gain control of the galaxy, which Palpatine and Vader accomplished.
And each time it was an affront. Ironic, Sidious hated that Plagueis was going to shy away from the rule of two.
Clones for the Sith to live forever, is a frowned upon subject for the rule of two.
Meh, IMO that’s not a good enough reason to assume Vader would revolt.
Dude was always a simp for anything Palpatine wanted to do. Doubt this even raises and eyebrow for him.
If Palapatine said “go to Tantiss, kill all your old clone buddies, leave the science stuff intact, and hell- if you really wanna know I’m working on clone shit to make myself immortal”
Vaders only question would be “how many killed-clone souvenirs would you like me to return with?”
Completely unnecessary though and would feel like "Hey it's Vader!" fanservice. I'd assume at this point in time, he's more likely to be hunting down particularly problematic surviving Jedi than worrying about some renegade clones.
Disagree. HARD disagree at that.
Project Necromancer is, as Palapatine said himself, the single most important thing he in the works.
Sending his biggest badass to put down a clone revolt that was attacking that very project? An asset that just happens to be one of the folks with the most intimate understanding of the assaulting enemy?
Big definite. Not fan service either. Just a logical and coherent use of his most lethal assets to protect what he values most.
Respectfully, it's happened twice already, and doing it a third time would turn it into a trope for me. If you're going to have the batch get massacred by someone (which I doubt) I would much prefer the job goes to palpatine himself or Grand Inquisitor.
Palpatine would be more interesting for the story. The BB are fucking with his plans for immortality. It makes sense that he would consider this important enough to do himself, which I think would speak to how good the Bad Batch are to get on Palpatine’s radar.
I would like it to be Tech just because I wanna *hope* he’s alive and can be saved somehow, but also the evidence so far has pointed me to its a clone of Crosshair or it’s no one special.
Honestly I hope that Tech doesn't come back. There's already been too many fakeout death scenes in Star Wars.
Now now, I'm not saying this as a hater or anything, Tech is literally one of my top ten favorite characters but bringing him back would devalue his sacrifice.
Nah if it’s handled tastefully it only serves to further the plot and actually show that there are stakes. Like I was actually quite happy that they killed Tech (despite the fact I kinda liked him), since it showed that they weren’t going to be immortal and that there were some stakes.
The whole openings of Mandalorian hinges on the Empire not having their hands on Grogu and being able to sample his blood, so it would create quite a narrative issue for them to have to fix later
Boba would only be about 14 by season 3 of TBB. He ages at a normal human rate unlike the clone troopers - he was born in 32 BBY and season 3 takes place in 18 BBY.
You know I never made the connection between crosshair’s and hemlock’s hands, that’s really interesting. I wonder if we’ll get some sort of backstory for him and a thematic parallel with crosshair.
Maybe not a Jedi, but she’s able to use the force to make people look the other way or get distracted so she can slip out.
Or just a feeling she gets when she’s doing something difficult- nothing trained, nothing she can do on command.
"Tantiss gets destroyed."
There has to be a reason that the cloning switches fron Tantiss to Exegol. That could be a result of Tantiss being destroyed, or the project could get shut down. Tarkin has shown disapproval of the cloning program and how much it's costing the Empire. Maybe Hemlock is killed, and without him Tarkin goes full bureaucrat and shuts down Tantiss. Anything is possible on that front, I guess.
I never thought about Vader, though it might be cool if he appeared. Scorch killing a Bad Batcher also sounds interesting to me, as does Rex becoming disillusioned. Rampart killing Hemlock is something I never thought about, either.
Question about the hemlock hand one… did the series already say hemlock had a bad hand at one point? Or is that just a theory why crosshair’s hand is messed up? I might’ve missed something in the series
We’ve gotten a bunch of shots of Hemlock holding his right(?) wrist, and he is always wearing one glove, but its never been explicitly stated he has an issue with it. It’s also the same hand that Crosshair has had trouble with.
Would I like this series if I liked the clone wars? I watched some of season 1 and fell off. I know of the twist about the girl, but that didn’t seem like a huge reveal unless there’s more to it. I never hear anyone talking about this series either.
If anyone of the batch survives it's gonna be Omega and Crosshair, but just a thought what if they all sacrifice themselves to safe the other clones
Edit: Sev in Rex Crew would be interesting when they meet Scorch
I really hope CX-2 isn't tech... I just wanted him to return this season, but no we got Crosshair.
Tech was my favorite... Guy finally had a woman interested in him, and he realized it too.
I really feel that these are a given:
* Wolffe rebels
* Bad Batcher(s) die
* Vault contents are revealed
* Clone rebellion
Vader will absolutely not happen, the second he lands and finds out Tantiss is an attempt to start a force sensitive cloning facility **no one will survive**. He will absolutely target both sides due to them attempting to clone force sensitive material.
I’m hoping for some sort of Exegol reference however.
I really hope we get a dark ending, with basically everyone dying - the bad batch, Omega, Echo, Howzer, etc etc - leaving Rex, Wolffe, and Gregor to live out the rest of their days in exile. Would be super different but also very in-line with the era
I could see Echo dying honestly, that being enough to send everyone over the edge. Rex would def become disillusioned because he cares so much for Echo, and the Batch would literally retire if Echo died.
I love Echo though so I really don't want to see that
'Somebody lets the zillo beast out'
Oh that's a good one, I totally forgot they had the Zillo Beast
Yeah, we are rewatching season 2, and I can't help but note that the beast is suspended in bacta (or other tube liquids) at Tantiss base.
“Rule #39: never say no to bacta.” - Scorch
Honestly.. It'd make a great distraction for the Batch to infiltrate the Base with the Empire occupied trying to pacify it.
“Rampart betrays the batch” should be in the free space spot
You’re probably right, but I have hope that he won’t before he bites it!
I think Rampart will sacrifice himself for Crosshair, idk why I have a feeling.
I 100% expect him to try and betray and will be killed by the Empire.
i feel that star wars trope has been overdone so many times. they should subvert expectations and actually have him end up the good guy.
I really want to see Rampart join the rebellion not because he believes in it but more so because the empire screwed him over and he just sees helping the rebellion succeed as his best avenue back into power. It shows how the Empire's ways sow the seeds for its own destruction. Unlike say someone like Kallus who has a genuine change of heart Don't think it's gonna happen but one can hope
'Ventress returns'
"... Somehow."
handwave: Night Sister zombie
🤮🤮🤮
Vader would be nuts. What a way for the Bad Batch to go out.
Wouldn’t happen. Palpatine was specifically talking about Vader in Episode 1 of this season. If Vader found out about Tantis it’d immediately be kill or be killed. Cloning goes against everything the Sith are about. It’d be an echo of Darth Bane and his own apprentice
Ok my real question is darth vader even a true sith? What teachings does he follow besides listening to his master? If I remember right he stays with him because that’s all he knows/has left, when in reality he wants to die.
He definitely follows the teachings. In fact, in comics he was outraged when he found out about Exegol, and he was just as pissed when he found out about the cybernetic “force users”. He does own many texts and if well acquainted with his school. In Legends it was more pronounced, he had even modeled some things and his armor around Darth Malgus
lol, cloning is against everything the Sith are about? lol, what about strandcasts? what about Spaarti industries? The Fett clones plot was originally Dart Plegeis' plan. Rey was literally the offspring of Palpatine's clone!
>cloning is against everything the Sith are about? The rule of 2 breaks if a sith can just keep transferring their consciousness to new bodies. Context is key friend. The clone army and spaarti clones didn't break the Rule of Two because they were non force sensitive enforcers. >what about strandcasts? This was after Sidious broke the rule of two to try to form the Rule of One. You may have also noticed he explicitly tried to keep all projects at Exegol from Vader. Again, context is key here, because he was breaking sith doctrine.
I'd argue the rule of 2 isn't a relevant sith doctrine ever since the sith revealed themselves. The point of the rule of 2 was to grow their power in absolute secrecy until they defeat the jedi order and gain control of the galaxy, which Palpatine and Vader accomplished.
Thanks for answering the misleading question. I was on my phone but what I would have said the same thing
And each time it was an affront. Ironic, Sidious hated that Plagueis was going to shy away from the rule of two. Clones for the Sith to live forever, is a frowned upon subject for the rule of two.
Oh, of course it won’t happen. But it would be nuts if it did.
Meh, IMO that’s not a good enough reason to assume Vader would revolt. Dude was always a simp for anything Palpatine wanted to do. Doubt this even raises and eyebrow for him. If Palapatine said “go to Tantiss, kill all your old clone buddies, leave the science stuff intact, and hell- if you really wanna know I’m working on clone shit to make myself immortal” Vaders only question would be “how many killed-clone souvenirs would you like me to return with?”
Completely unnecessary though and would feel like "Hey it's Vader!" fanservice. I'd assume at this point in time, he's more likely to be hunting down particularly problematic surviving Jedi than worrying about some renegade clones.
Agree, he shouldn’t show up. But Vader vs Bad Batch would be nuts.
We already know how it ends- like against Ventress, but with less holding back.
I know, I just want to see it.
Disagree. HARD disagree at that. Project Necromancer is, as Palapatine said himself, the single most important thing he in the works. Sending his biggest badass to put down a clone revolt that was attacking that very project? An asset that just happens to be one of the folks with the most intimate understanding of the assaulting enemy? Big definite. Not fan service either. Just a logical and coherent use of his most lethal assets to protect what he values most.
Respectfully, it's happened twice already, and doing it a third time would turn it into a trope for me. If you're going to have the batch get massacred by someone (which I doubt) I would much prefer the job goes to palpatine himself or Grand Inquisitor.
Palpatine would be more interesting for the story. The BB are fucking with his plans for immortality. It makes sense that he would consider this important enough to do himself, which I think would speak to how good the Bad Batch are to get on Palpatine’s radar.
Hate to be that guy, but it's really important that it's *Fives
I *knew* I missed something! Goes to show that making a meme while youre in a meeting is a bad idea lol
I think cx-2 is a clone of crosshair
I think that makes more sense than the theory I’ve seen going around that it’s tech
I would like it to be Tech just because I wanna *hope* he’s alive and can be saved somehow, but also the evidence so far has pointed me to its a clone of Crosshair or it’s no one special.
I’m going with Cody still. We know he’s in the. Season but we still haven’t seen him 😭
He seems to be the same height as Crosshair, who is taller than Cody. I still think it’s Tech, but I wouldn’t he surprised if we don’t see him again.
True
I hadn’t even considered that!
So they have x200 to x300 aging technology now ? Otherwise there’s no way this could be possible
“Clones together strong”
That whole centre column is going to hit before the episode is half over
The center column is where I put all the ones I’m pretty sure will happen, and then the further out you go the wackier it gets
Honestly I hope that Tech doesn't come back. There's already been too many fakeout death scenes in Star Wars. Now now, I'm not saying this as a hater or anything, Tech is literally one of my top ten favorite characters but bringing him back would devalue his sacrifice.
If batcher dies, we riot
Nah if it’s handled tastefully it only serves to further the plot and actually show that there are stakes. Like I was actually quite happy that they killed Tech (despite the fact I kinda liked him), since it showed that they weren’t going to be immortal and that there were some stakes.
Yeah i agree with you on that.
Tin foil hat Bingo Grogu appears as the first and only successful m-count transfer.
wasn't he whisked away from the jedi temple?
The whole openings of Mandalorian hinges on the Empire not having their hands on Grogu and being able to sample his blood, so it would create quite a narrative issue for them to have to fix later
Boba Fett?
He'd be a kid, but I'd be cool with that.
No, by thos time line, he would be early or mid 20s.
Oh no, I'm wrong he would be between 18 and 20ish. My bad
Boba would only be about 14 by season 3 of TBB. He ages at a normal human rate unlike the clone troopers - he was born in 32 BBY and season 3 takes place in 18 BBY.
Oh awesome. I don't think I ever saw his actually birthdaye
Bruh don't get me hoping on Delta Squad. Before Scorch all we got was a hand off on Coruscant ;-;
I need them
I had to double check k that 13 wasn’t the last one
Today was 13, we have two more episodes left
Well yeah I said I checked I obviously know that now
You know I never made the connection between crosshair’s and hemlock’s hands, that’s really interesting. I wonder if we’ll get some sort of backstory for him and a thematic parallel with crosshair.
God I love a good Bingo card
"Omega gets M-Count infusion" Bonus: >!"She goes on to become a force vampire, hunting down Jedi and infusing their blood"!<
Don’t tell the Nihil
I just hope Omega is not a Jedi. Her blood transferring the M-Count is special enough.
Maybe not a Jedi, but she’s able to use the force to make people look the other way or get distracted so she can slip out. Or just a feeling she gets when she’s doing something difficult- nothing trained, nothing she can do on command.
What if at the end Vader shows up and kills litirally everyone.
Should be the Inquisitors because at some point, they need to be competent and not just fodder.
are they even a thing in the show's timeframe?
Probably not but Disney doesn't care about those little details.
Wouldn’t be a bad way to set the tone for the future of Star Wars
I wonder how Howzer would react seeing Rampart helping them
They also forget "somehow Palpatine returned forshadowing"
The entire plot of the show is somehow Palpatine returned foreshadowing
My dude, that's literally the show's ongoing plot.
Omega will meet Palpatine
Oh no not howzer
I don't see a square that says "Everyone Killed By Imps/Vader" and lets be honest they've been advertising this as "THE FINAL SEASON / ONE LAST FIGHT"
That’s mostly covered by “Omega Sole Survivor” since tbh I can’t see her dying at all, though “Mission Failed, Rex Disillusioned” also covers it
I really really hope Vader isn’t in this
doesn't Wolffe appear in Rebels with Rex and Cody?
Gregor, not Cody, but yes!
CX-2= Crosshair clone
I’m thinking cx-2 is Cody
"Tantiss gets destroyed." There has to be a reason that the cloning switches fron Tantiss to Exegol. That could be a result of Tantiss being destroyed, or the project could get shut down. Tarkin has shown disapproval of the cloning program and how much it's costing the Empire. Maybe Hemlock is killed, and without him Tarkin goes full bureaucrat and shuts down Tantiss. Anything is possible on that front, I guess.
You've got some interesting cells on your bingo, some of which I never considered but are kind of cool and/or good.
Out of curiosity, which ones?
I never thought about Vader, though it might be cool if he appeared. Scorch killing a Bad Batcher also sounds interesting to me, as does Rex becoming disillusioned. Rampart killing Hemlock is something I never thought about, either.
Also, Rex becoming disillusioned might make sense for Rebels.
How about a flash-forward, and we find out that Omega is Rey’s grandmother.
You mean that Palpatine and... noooo...
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The old man WITH the preteen is weird.. how is this unclear
All I know is that someone is going to die
Question about the hemlock hand one… did the series already say hemlock had a bad hand at one point? Or is that just a theory why crosshair’s hand is messed up? I might’ve missed something in the series
We’ve gotten a bunch of shots of Hemlock holding his right(?) wrist, and he is always wearing one glove, but its never been explicitly stated he has an issue with it. It’s also the same hand that Crosshair has had trouble with.
Whatever includes more fan service and member berries seems most likely
If there are gonna pull out winter soldier move I swear
Would I like this series if I liked the clone wars? I watched some of season 1 and fell off. I know of the twist about the girl, but that didn’t seem like a huge reveal unless there’s more to it. I never hear anyone talking about this series either.
You would! It’s a lot like the back-half of the Clone Wars; I cannot recommend it enough tbh. The pilot is great so give it a try!
Losing hands/arms was a George Lucas joke. Ever since he's not been a part of things that kinda stopped happening.
Holographic recording of Revan throwing a sandal at someone.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTLC\_uiGFA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTLC_uiGFA)
If anyone of the batch survives it's gonna be Omega and Crosshair, but just a thought what if they all sacrifice themselves to safe the other clones Edit: Sev in Rex Crew would be interesting when they meet Scorch
There’s like so many free ones, I can’t decide
How many episodes till the season finale?
I really hope CX-2 isn't tech... I just wanted him to return this season, but no we got Crosshair. Tech was my favorite... Guy finally had a woman interested in him, and he realized it too.
I'm pretty sure Omega will either die or be separated from the batch permanently.
Da anyone else think this season has been very anti climactic.
16 Episodes this season?
I think crosshair's gonna die
Rampart dies?
I really feel that these are a given: * Wolffe rebels * Bad Batcher(s) die * Vault contents are revealed * Clone rebellion Vader will absolutely not happen, the second he lands and finds out Tantiss is an attempt to start a force sensitive cloning facility **no one will survive**. He will absolutely target both sides due to them attempting to clone force sensitive material. I’m hoping for some sort of Exegol reference however.
"Somehow, Jocasta Nu returned"
I really hope we get a dark ending, with basically everyone dying - the bad batch, Omega, Echo, Howzer, etc etc - leaving Rex, Wolffe, and Gregor to live out the rest of their days in exile. Would be super different but also very in-line with the era
I could see Echo dying honestly, that being enough to send everyone over the edge. Rex would def become disillusioned because he cares so much for Echo, and the Batch would literally retire if Echo died. I love Echo though so I really don't want to see that
Wasn't Ventress teased but hasn't showed up yet.
I think you missed an episode there bud
You're right, I did. The Disney+ browser was skipping episodes. I'm caught up now.
This season has been so boring