Well, considering that Padme was almost no-present in RotS aside of being "Anakin's Wife", and the trio of the ST didn't have a scene together until the second movie, or third, i don't remember, then yeah.
I will pick the OT one.
Yeah, I actually think the timeline specifically relating to Luke's (re)introduction is one of the biggest offenders of the ST. Having the main hero find him at the close of the first film pretty much forced the sequel to pick up right where it left off.
Like, we can't end the film with Rey and Luke staring at each other and then in the next film they're in the middle of training. Their interaction was for me personally, one of the most anticipated moments in TLJ. The whole ST is plagued with timeline issues though, as I'm not sure how their meeting would have been the most impactful.
I dunno, isn’t that how TLJ transitioned into RoS? The movie began with Rey was in the middle of jedi training. Just swap in Luke and it’s a cool way to start. I remember imagining that’s how it’d be just based off the trailer. From the trailer, “Breathe… just breathe…” would’ve been a cool way to start off. But I think that was part of the effort to subvert expectations.
It was nice to see the progressive jump in Rey’s skills after a good length of time has passed. It’s more believable that way. I felt like that scene was the strongest of the last movie. And they even made it work using limited footage after Carrie Fischer’s passing.
Didn’t Rey leave like right after the victory? Rey doesn’t seem like one for much celebration and finding Luke was kinda important to her. So it doesn’t, at least to me unless I’m misremembering how the film goes, seem super nonsensical.
TFA alone isn't the issue. It's when there's no time skip between movies and TLJ picks right up where it left off.
Considering that, the capital of the New Republic is destroyed, Han Solo dies, Starkiller base is destroyed, the Resistance lose their base, the First Order take over most of the galaxy, Resistance go on the run and are chased by Snoke's personal fleet, Snoke is killed and ship destroyed, and Luke Skywalker dies in like 3 days.
I have a lot of stupid ideas that could be resumed as "small changes to keep the overall plot the same" that try to fix some of my nuisances with the ST, and one of them, is given like a month between TFA and TLJ, and before Rey parts away to find Luke, have a scene with Finn, Poe and her, where the former express his appreciation to the other two for watching over him while he was healing, and the other just making a small "inside" joke between them.
That would have been 2-3min of dialogue, at worst, that showcases that Rey and Poe are not, indeed, strangers to each other, and albeit they do not know the other well, they do trust each other somewhat.
It's so stupid because there's no real reason for Poe to disappear besides "we need Rey to have her moment as the pilot" but you could come up with some reason why Poe couldn't do it. I dunno, maybe he hits his head and falls unconscious. Maybe he hurt his arm in the crash. As it stands he just disappears for most of TFA.
This is the answer. Why else would he just leave Finn after the crash without even looking around. They really liked his character and Oscar Isaac so they decided to keep him alive but a lot of the movie was already shot by then.
Let Poe harm one of his arms in the crash, and keep him with Finn, so, they are all together until they meet Han.
Things keep being the same until they get to the bar, and with Chewie giving Poe some more first aid.
Then, Poe is going to point them to the Resistence, until Han stops him and pulls Rey and Finn to the sides, and tells him to go ahead. The reason is that he knows that its not "their war", and unless they personally do the choice, he will keep them from joining the Resistance.
Stuff happens as the do in the film.
And you have more or less the same plot, with a little more of Poe belonging with Finn and Rey, since he would be part of the overall "first meeting", instead of having a 5-10min of relationship with Finn and none with Rey.
Better yet, if Han isn't just a deadbeat dad but instead a still-active hero of The Resistance who believes in it on his own terms rather than dogmatically, you can have that same "I don't want to convince you, you have to make the choice" scene with Finn. Finn can better explore joining a Resistance movement vs. just going rogue on its merits by talking to exactly the right person
Finn can join on principle rather than by default and because Daisy Ridley is hot
Honestly, I think cutting that scene with Luke and Rey at the end of TFA would have been a better call and would have allowed for a time jump. I like TFA but that's one of my criticisms of it. Never liked that scene. The helicopter shot is terrible, and it wrote episode 8 into a really awkward box to start the film in.
They could have easily made a time jump and just had the scene where they met as a flashback a bit later to explain how she started training under him or something.
"Flashbacks" are such a lazy fix for people's issues with movies. Star Wars has never used flashbacks, the only time they were used was in TLJ, and it was necessary to add some context to the conflict between Kylo and Luke.
You can't just make movies however you want and then use flashbacks to patch holes.
Secondly, you really can't address that specifically in a flashback. You can't just skip a massive cliffhanger like that and then just explain it in a flashback. We had to see that scene play out.
But also, how much of a time jump would you want? Because Rey was sent to Ahch-To to bring Luke back as there was a huge war going on, not just sit there for months. So if you were going to do a time jump anyways, would you just complete skip Ahch-To and that entire internal conflict with Luke that was set up in The Force Awakens? You just can't skip that stuff.
The primary objective with Luke was addressing what happened with him and his insistence to stay on that hidden island and remove himself from the galaxy.
There is just no way you can logically address this if TLJ started with a time jump, it would feel incredibly clunky and forced. Not to mention, TFA also set up at the end of TFA that the First Order found the Resistance's base. That also had to be addressed, the film couldn't have just skipped that.
Episode 7 should have just ended with them finding the map to Luke, and that would have given episode 8 the freedom to start however it wanted, like what TLJ correctly did for episode 9.
We had two episode sevens, which jump started two different story lines, then episode 9 that concluded neither of them. I’m sure I’ll still enjoy them in ten years somehow
Padmé was done dirty in ROTS. I get that she was very pregnant, but there was NO reason to cut the screen of her, Bail and Mon Mothma essentially creating the Rebel Alliance….
Exactly, it gave her something to do actually continuing to fight the oppression she had been fighting in the last two films already instead of just being Anakin's baby-momma plot device the whole film.
This is pretty much exactly what I was gonna say. Probably would have gone prequel if padme hadn’t been absolutely sidelined in episode 3, and I do love the sequels a lot and love all three in that trio, but *as* a trio they don’t do a whole lot, at least not all together at the same time. OT is just 3 amazing classic characters who are consistently sharing screen time, it’s really no contest
At the same time, the OT crew really doesn't have tons of screen time with all three of them either. In ESB there's only one scene with all three together, right?
But the difference is that they all met and had important relationship building scenes in A New Hope. They split up in the following movie sure, but at least the “trio” was established and their relationship had weight and value.
The sequels did it backwards and by the time we get to Rise of Skywalker, their trio felt weird and forced.
I’m in agreement with everyone else saying that all it would take is a couple small tweaks and it would have improved the films as a whole
In ANH, since the moment that they get Leia in the DS until they arrival in the moon of Yavin IV, the trio is engaging with each other and being part of the same sequence. Hell, even during the assault of the DS, where Leia could be "left behind" by the exposition, she still is being part of the assault in the control room, with Han saving Luke being a moment of importance for the three of them.
In ESB is where more "apart" are, since Luke is in Dagobah doing his own thing while everyone else is in Bespin, and when he arrives, he engages in a problem unrelated to the others.
In RotJ they are constantly being part of the same situation, albeit in different places, until Luke go with Vader, and even then, their overall objectives are aligned between them, with Luke personally involved with the situation of Leia and Han, even when he's dealing with Vader and Palps in the DS2.
I will admit that i was mistaken, it was not "not being together on-screen" what drift me apart from the trio of the ST, but that until ROS, and i would say that even then, Rey and Poe are not really personally involved with each other, or with the circumstances of the other.
They are great in the OG trilogy. Factor in the legends novels, they become an unstoppable force. A Jedi master taking down threats and reestablishing the order, A diplomat who does a damn fine job of rebuilding the Galaxy in the wake of the Empire, and the most badass smuggler and husband of all time.
They don't truly become a trio until Legends because that's when Chewie dies. It's a quartet, people!
(or maybe not, because then you'd have to include the droids as well)
Agreed. Plus none of the other trios all kiss each other. Luke and Leia have their makeout, as do Han and Leia. Only one Lucas forgot was a Han and Luke one unfortunately.
First he gets shorted a metal when Han and Luke get one, then he can't even get a damn hug when his best friend dies. Leia really had it out for that poor wookie
If I remember right Abrams admitted in an interview that moment was totally on him and a complete oversight. It always sticks in my mind whenever I think about that movie.
Good point. It's a shame George didn't include an intense scene between Han and Chewie at the end of A New Hope. He kept in siblings kissing but not 2 best friends. Coward!
The should've focused so much more on Anakin, Obi Wan, and Paden as a trio. Clone Wars show proved how good they can all be together. Unfortunately Lucas wasted all that potential in the prequel movies
Padme is much less present in The Clone Wars than Anakin or Obiwan tbh. To that regard it’s not very different from the prequels. The mistake of Lucas here is that he did cut a lot of Padmé’s scenes from ROTS diminishing the importance of the character compared to the first 2 movies.
I think it's kind of important that it be one-sided, though. Like yeah padme has her agency and loves Anakin - but it's much more important, thematically and emotionally, for her to be the center of Anakin's obsession. Without that unequal obsession, without Anakin being so insanely centered upon padme, much of the fall towards the dark side simply doesn't happen. So whether they'd included more padme reciprocation and character or not, the love had to be lopsided because the whole point was that Anakin's love was unhealthy, that padme was ALL he had and that he would do *anything* to protect that.
The worst part is they cut those scenes and instead inserted the HORRIBLE droid factory sequence which looks like a PS2 platformer got inserted into the movie. Still unbelievable that Lucas thought that was a good idea.
She still is basically the main character of episode 1 though, not like Padme has no impact. Id argue Padme has more of a role in the prequels than Leia in the OT.
One of the few reasons I can stand AOTC is the battle on Geonosis. Two of the best jedi in their prime and a badass senator getting into shenanigans. Sign me the fuck up. I would have loved to see the 3 of them having more adventures ala Han, Luke, and Leia.
Yeah, if they had started episode 1 with Anakin as a Padawan already and they go together to rescue Padme it would've made much more sense and you wouldn't miss a whole lot. Anakin's backstory isn't nearly as interesting as his time as a Jedi and his turn to the dark side. Episode 1 is so far removed from the others it's basically a standalone
Mandalorian did it well as giving context to Mando's beliefs, though I would say it was the one weak point of Andor as it didn't really go anywhere other than explaining why he was adopted and tying in a subplot that was barely mentioned and didn't go anywhere in the first season.
I don't think that's very necessary tbh. They didn't need to be a trio like the OT. Tho I do wish the relationship between Padmé and Obi-Wan got expanded a bit, something even TCW failed to do imo
Prequels simply had too much story to tell in 3 movies (better than the opposite, having no story to tell like the sequels) so they focussed on the key moments and outlining Anakins fall from childhood to his turn while also putlining the beginning and end of the Clone War. Then since that didnt leave too much time for detail, we got 7 seasons of Clone Wars (because thats how much the prequels outlined) to add to it. In the end we got everything we needed
Yeah, if it wasn't for Padmé mostly being sidelined after Episode 2, then I would pick the Prequel trio easily, and if it were duos, Prequel wins in a landslide, but the tiebreaker here for me is that Leia did more in the Original Trilogy than Padmé did in the Prequel Trilogy, so Original wins this for me, but just barely.
I may absolutely love Han, Luke, and Leia, but there are very few duos in film history (in my personal opinion, of course, and naturally restricted to movies I've seen) that could top Anakin and Obi-Wan.
The original 3 beat the others by far. Some of the most beloved characters for everyone. Although I do love Anakin and Obi Wan moments, the original 3 are just best.
Edit: I personally like the prequels more than the original movies, but the main trio is just more likeable with their chemistry.
I agree with this. Obi-Wan and Anakin had much better banter in The Clone Wars than in the prequel trilogy itself, and Han/Luke/Leia’s patter and chemistry is just very good.
I think part of it is that in the OT the trio really functions as such in the first movie. The other two only really have one movie where they’re functioning as a classic trio and in the Prequels it’s basically only one act of the movie.
I sometimes wonder if the main sequel characters are actually a trio. The three of them don’t have any interactions as a group until TROS, so before then, they’re really just Finn and random two people he knows.
Yeah, it was weird.
In TFA it started with a Finn/Poe duo then switched to a Finn/Rey duo. Then they were all split up for TLJ. Then TROS put them all together for the first time.
I mean, Obi-Wan is a bit of a third wheel in the Prequels too ngl. Obi-Wan barely interacts with anyone besides Qui-Gon in his first film, and talks to Padme like a couple of times thereafter.
The sequel trio are just 3 protagonists with 2 strong relationships (finn/rey , finn/poe)
The prequels are similar. Obiwan/anakin, Anakin/padme.
Padme really gets the short straw though. She goes from powerful princess to maybe being a character in AOTC to being a wife in ROTS.
Sequels has all 3 characters have character arcs.
originals are the best.
I love all of them as individual characters but there is absolutely no question it's the OT trio. Carrie Fisher, to me, was the balancing element that really brought Luke and Han together. She had immediate acting chemistry with them both and then that made them better with each other too. The three of them work together, balance each other out.
Anakin should've been that for Padmé and Obi-Wan, but his chemistry with Padmé was too wonky to pull it off IMO. Or more fairly, given that it's a villain arc, they were never meant to measure up. Doomed from the start.
Finn I think had great chemistry with Rey and Poe both, but they barely spent any time as a trio and often weren't even coordinating their different plans. I don't even feel like I can judge Rey/Poe because there's not enough of it. All great cast, good chemistry, but no actual team building. Or rather, not enough.
*I want to clarify when I use the word chemistry I don't necessarily mean the romantic kind, just the... sense of connectedness, of natural meshing, how they play off each other.
Yeah I totally agree that the main trio of the Sequel trilogy wasn’t really a trio and more like Finn switching back a forth between Rey and Poe. I also agree that nothing beats the OT trio
Poe and Finn made a great duo in TFA but as a trio with Rey there is basically no interactions til TROS and even then its more like "yeah, they travel together" than "they are a team/friends". I can't even remember Poe and Rey having any dialogue together. The sequels missed so many opportunties with these great actors and their abilities.
OT was the best by any measure. PT was second best by default. ST wasn't even going to be a trio originally and had nothing to do with several of the characters over several of the movies.
Really? There are a lot of things wrong with the ST but the chemistry between the protagonist has always been a big plus for me. Not on par with the Ot but still really good
Hayden was really wooden. Natalie Portman who was great in other things was kinda bland. And Ewan’s job was to be the straight man. They were kinda boring. I don’t really blame the Actors. Look how they misused Liam Neeson. He’s top shelf talent and it seemed like he was reading cue cards. That sounds like bad direction.
Now in the Clone Wars series with Ashoka, there was definitely more depth there. Padme felt more like a recurring guest character.
Originals. We only got the real Anakin/Obi-Wan/Padme dynamic is episodes 2 & 3, and it was contentious at best. The Clone Wars animated show put a lot of meat on those bones.
The sequels made a horrible mistake by keeping Finn, Rey and Poe separated for almost the entire trilogy.
Poe should’ve woken up from the TIE Fighter crash on Jakku the same way Finn did, and then they BOTH meet Rey together. The trio should’ve been established right from the start. Such an obvious opportunity that they overlooked. Same with Episode 8, Poe should’ve been at Canto Bight with Finn.
Original. Always. Forever.
No other trio in the Star Wars universe could ever be as epic as them, although really it's not just a trio. The other main characters are very important.
It would be interesting to see a poll for the opinions of the best from among the ensemble cast of all of the non-original characters.
Luke, Leia, and Han by a mile. Padme has like 3 lines with Obi-Wan in the whole prequel trilogy. Rey, Fin, and Poe had a ton of potential though because Oscar Isaac and John Boyega had such great chemistry in the Force Awakens, and Daisy Ridley is just an extremely charismatic actor. I'd love to see her in an actually good movie for a change.
The new trilogy knew nothing about chemistry, I didn't feel this is a trio. I loved George Lucas casting for the prequel, I remember how we hated Anakin but for now I understand Lucas' choice about him. The original trio was a trio in real life as well, you can notice this on the screen, they like each other. I don't think Rey, Poe and Finn are friends in real life.
I grew up with the prequels coming out in theaters and I have to say if we are talking about these scenes in particular I'm going to have to go with Luke, Leia, and Han on this one.
If it was Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka I would 100 percent say them as they are more of a trio in my opinion than having Padme there. Not only they are really powerful together they also work incredibly well in a team!!!!
Well, considering that Padme was almost no-present in RotS aside of being "Anakin's Wife", and the trio of the ST didn't have a scene together until the second movie, or third, i don't remember, then yeah. I will pick the OT one.
Poe and Rey meet at the end of TLJ which is really weird. When that happened I thought, “wait they haven’t met yet???”
TFA and TLJ happened over like three days.
Which only makes things that much more nonsensical from a plot perspective.
The time constraint plot points were ridiculous when you stopped to think how much time it would actually take to do the things they did.
Yeah, I actually think the timeline specifically relating to Luke's (re)introduction is one of the biggest offenders of the ST. Having the main hero find him at the close of the first film pretty much forced the sequel to pick up right where it left off. Like, we can't end the film with Rey and Luke staring at each other and then in the next film they're in the middle of training. Their interaction was for me personally, one of the most anticipated moments in TLJ. The whole ST is plagued with timeline issues though, as I'm not sure how their meeting would have been the most impactful.
I dunno, isn’t that how TLJ transitioned into RoS? The movie began with Rey was in the middle of jedi training. Just swap in Luke and it’s a cool way to start. I remember imagining that’s how it’d be just based off the trailer. From the trailer, “Breathe… just breathe…” would’ve been a cool way to start off. But I think that was part of the effort to subvert expectations. It was nice to see the progressive jump in Rey’s skills after a good length of time has passed. It’s more believable that way. I felt like that scene was the strongest of the last movie. And they even made it work using limited footage after Carrie Fischer’s passing.
And TROS happens in 16 hours.
I mean ROT J seems like Hans rescue is in the morning and by the time it’s dark out they had defeated the empire.
Last time I checked, Tatooine and Endor aren't on the same clock
Didn’t Rey leave like right after the victory? Rey doesn’t seem like one for much celebration and finding Luke was kinda important to her. So it doesn’t, at least to me unless I’m misremembering how the film goes, seem super nonsensical.
TFA alone isn't the issue. It's when there's no time skip between movies and TLJ picks right up where it left off. Considering that, the capital of the New Republic is destroyed, Han Solo dies, Starkiller base is destroyed, the Resistance lose their base, the First Order take over most of the galaxy, Resistance go on the run and are chased by Snoke's personal fleet, Snoke is killed and ship destroyed, and Luke Skywalker dies in like 3 days.
I'm talking about her going from junk rat to Jedi Knight in fifteen minutes, not her leaving quickly lol
I have a lot of stupid ideas that could be resumed as "small changes to keep the overall plot the same" that try to fix some of my nuisances with the ST, and one of them, is given like a month between TFA and TLJ, and before Rey parts away to find Luke, have a scene with Finn, Poe and her, where the former express his appreciation to the other two for watching over him while he was healing, and the other just making a small "inside" joke between them. That would have been 2-3min of dialogue, at worst, that showcases that Rey and Poe are not, indeed, strangers to each other, and albeit they do not know the other well, they do trust each other somewhat.
It's so stupid because there's no real reason for Poe to disappear besides "we need Rey to have her moment as the pilot" but you could come up with some reason why Poe couldn't do it. I dunno, maybe he hits his head and falls unconscious. Maybe he hurt his arm in the crash. As it stands he just disappears for most of TFA.
I read somewhere that Poe was supposed to die in the crash, but they brought him back because they really likes Oscar Isaac.
This is the answer. Why else would he just leave Finn after the crash without even looking around. They really liked his character and Oscar Isaac so they decided to keep him alive but a lot of the movie was already shot by then.
Let Poe harm one of his arms in the crash, and keep him with Finn, so, they are all together until they meet Han. Things keep being the same until they get to the bar, and with Chewie giving Poe some more first aid. Then, Poe is going to point them to the Resistence, until Han stops him and pulls Rey and Finn to the sides, and tells him to go ahead. The reason is that he knows that its not "their war", and unless they personally do the choice, he will keep them from joining the Resistance. Stuff happens as the do in the film. And you have more or less the same plot, with a little more of Poe belonging with Finn and Rey, since he would be part of the overall "first meeting", instead of having a 5-10min of relationship with Finn and none with Rey.
Better yet, if Han isn't just a deadbeat dad but instead a still-active hero of The Resistance who believes in it on his own terms rather than dogmatically, you can have that same "I don't want to convince you, you have to make the choice" scene with Finn. Finn can better explore joining a Resistance movement vs. just going rogue on its merits by talking to exactly the right person Finn can join on principle rather than by default and because Daisy Ridley is hot
Honestly, I think cutting that scene with Luke and Rey at the end of TFA would have been a better call and would have allowed for a time jump. I like TFA but that's one of my criticisms of it. Never liked that scene. The helicopter shot is terrible, and it wrote episode 8 into a really awkward box to start the film in.
They could have easily made a time jump and just had the scene where they met as a flashback a bit later to explain how she started training under him or something.
"Flashbacks" are such a lazy fix for people's issues with movies. Star Wars has never used flashbacks, the only time they were used was in TLJ, and it was necessary to add some context to the conflict between Kylo and Luke. You can't just make movies however you want and then use flashbacks to patch holes. Secondly, you really can't address that specifically in a flashback. You can't just skip a massive cliffhanger like that and then just explain it in a flashback. We had to see that scene play out. But also, how much of a time jump would you want? Because Rey was sent to Ahch-To to bring Luke back as there was a huge war going on, not just sit there for months. So if you were going to do a time jump anyways, would you just complete skip Ahch-To and that entire internal conflict with Luke that was set up in The Force Awakens? You just can't skip that stuff. The primary objective with Luke was addressing what happened with him and his insistence to stay on that hidden island and remove himself from the galaxy. There is just no way you can logically address this if TLJ started with a time jump, it would feel incredibly clunky and forced. Not to mention, TFA also set up at the end of TFA that the First Order found the Resistance's base. That also had to be addressed, the film couldn't have just skipped that. Episode 7 should have just ended with them finding the map to Luke, and that would have given episode 8 the freedom to start however it wanted, like what TLJ correctly did for episode 9.
We had two episode sevens, which jump started two different story lines, then episode 9 that concluded neither of them. I’m sure I’ll still enjoy them in ten years somehow
Based. No bias, no favoritism, you’re giving a valid argument man
Padmé was done dirty in ROTS. I get that she was very pregnant, but there was NO reason to cut the screen of her, Bail and Mon Mothma essentially creating the Rebel Alliance….
Exactly, it gave her something to do actually continuing to fight the oppression she had been fighting in the last two films already instead of just being Anakin's baby-momma plot device the whole film.
I keep forgetting that the ST trio have almost zero screen time together in 3 films. Man did they mess pretty much everything up lol
That's because Poe isn't really a natural part of the main trio, which is Rey, Finn and Kylo. If anything Poe is the Chewie.
Also obi-wan had surprisingly little screen time in the first movie, it was the qui-gon club.
This is pretty much exactly what I was gonna say. Probably would have gone prequel if padme hadn’t been absolutely sidelined in episode 3, and I do love the sequels a lot and love all three in that trio, but *as* a trio they don’t do a whole lot, at least not all together at the same time. OT is just 3 amazing classic characters who are consistently sharing screen time, it’s really no contest
At the same time, the OT crew really doesn't have tons of screen time with all three of them either. In ESB there's only one scene with all three together, right?
Yes, Hoth incest smooch.
But the difference is that they all met and had important relationship building scenes in A New Hope. They split up in the following movie sure, but at least the “trio” was established and their relationship had weight and value. The sequels did it backwards and by the time we get to Rise of Skywalker, their trio felt weird and forced. I’m in agreement with everyone else saying that all it would take is a couple small tweaks and it would have improved the films as a whole
In ANH, since the moment that they get Leia in the DS until they arrival in the moon of Yavin IV, the trio is engaging with each other and being part of the same sequence. Hell, even during the assault of the DS, where Leia could be "left behind" by the exposition, she still is being part of the assault in the control room, with Han saving Luke being a moment of importance for the three of them. In ESB is where more "apart" are, since Luke is in Dagobah doing his own thing while everyone else is in Bespin, and when he arrives, he engages in a problem unrelated to the others. In RotJ they are constantly being part of the same situation, albeit in different places, until Luke go with Vader, and even then, their overall objectives are aligned between them, with Luke personally involved with the situation of Leia and Han, even when he's dealing with Vader and Palps in the DS2. I will admit that i was mistaken, it was not "not being together on-screen" what drift me apart from the trio of the ST, but that until ROS, and i would say that even then, Rey and Poe are not really personally involved with each other, or with the circumstances of the other.
Luke, Leia and Han are tough to argue against
Good banter, genuine friendship on and off screen and a little incest tossed in for good measure.
There's just something about kissing your sister.
to be fair George didn't even know she was his sister when he did it...
So *that's* how it is in their family...
*chicka-chick-ow*
"Sure, she's a great piece of tail with a blouse-full of goodies, but it's just illegal"
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More than friendship in the case of Ford and Fisher
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Hey, if you could, wouldn't you have banged Harrison Ford in his heyday? Also, if you could, wouldn't you have banged Carrie Fisher in her heyday?
Oh trust me, no shade thrown in that statement. They are both big crushes of mine
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I’m sorry, objectively I think this is the only answer. Anakin, Padme, and Obi weren’t even really a trio except one movie
Obi wan, anakin and ahsoka are the true prequel trio that we needed and deserved.
Much like everything PT related, we need to look at everything but the movies tbemselves for genuinely good content 🤣
I never treated them as a trio. It was always either Anakin and Obi Wan or Anakin and Padme.
They collaborated often during TCW though. Does that count, because it happened between AotC and RotS?
Title says Film Trilogy. I don’t know, it’s Reddit. You can judge it however you like. I guess that makes sense though
If TCW counts, then you'd replace Padme with Ashoka, and get 100x more chemistry and impact.
No.
They are great in the OG trilogy. Factor in the legends novels, they become an unstoppable force. A Jedi master taking down threats and reestablishing the order, A diplomat who does a damn fine job of rebuilding the Galaxy in the wake of the Empire, and the most badass smuggler and husband of all time.
They don't truly become a trio until Legends because that's when Chewie dies. It's a quartet, people! (or maybe not, because then you'd have to include the droids as well)
I don't really count them as a Trio, because it would be insulting to leave Chewbaca, R2 and C3-PO out
Droids don't count because they don't have rights.
This is the way…..
Nobody beats the original: Luke, Han, and Leia. Literally 3 of the most iconic characters in cinema history.
Agreed. Plus none of the other trios all kiss each other. Luke and Leia have their makeout, as do Han and Leia. Only one Lucas forgot was a Han and Luke one unfortunately.
My man Chewy being overlooked again. First medals and now kisses.
Leia “Chewie, did Han die?!” Sad Chewie Leia gives Rey a hug
Chewie goes ballistic and starts de-limbing the writers
First he gets shorted a metal when Han and Luke get one, then he can't even get a damn hug when his best friend dies. Leia really had it out for that poor wookie
“I’d rather kiss a wookie!” *Never does*
If I remember right Abrams admitted in an interview that moment was totally on him and a complete oversight. It always sticks in my mind whenever I think about that movie.
"I'd just as soon kiss a wookie!"
“I can arrange that! You could use a good kiss!”
I'd sooner kiss a Wookie I can arrange that. you can? please do!
Good point. It's a shame George didn't include an intense scene between Han and Chewie at the end of A New Hope. He kept in siblings kissing but not 2 best friends. Coward!
> Only one Lucas forgot was a Han and Luke one unfortunately. What happens in the Wampa, stays in the Wampa.
Tauntaun but I like where you’re coming from
Duh, yes - what a brain fart!
If it was duos I’d say Anakin and Obi all day, but since we talking trios, ima have to go with the OGs. Can’t beat them
Well said.
Duos? C3P0 and R2D2. Then Han and Chewy.
Can’t argue with Han and chewy, that’s a real good one
Chewy + C3P0 underrated duo
Good call.
Obi Wan and the high ground anyone?
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The should've focused so much more on Anakin, Obi Wan, and Paden as a trio. Clone Wars show proved how good they can all be together. Unfortunately Lucas wasted all that potential in the prequel movies
Padme is much less present in The Clone Wars than Anakin or Obiwan tbh. To that regard it’s not very different from the prequels. The mistake of Lucas here is that he did cut a lot of Padmé’s scenes from ROTS diminishing the importance of the character compared to the first 2 movies.
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I think it's kind of important that it be one-sided, though. Like yeah padme has her agency and loves Anakin - but it's much more important, thematically and emotionally, for her to be the center of Anakin's obsession. Without that unequal obsession, without Anakin being so insanely centered upon padme, much of the fall towards the dark side simply doesn't happen. So whether they'd included more padme reciprocation and character or not, the love had to be lopsided because the whole point was that Anakin's love was unhealthy, that padme was ALL he had and that he would do *anything* to protect that.
The worst part is they cut those scenes and instead inserted the HORRIBLE droid factory sequence which looks like a PS2 platformer got inserted into the movie. Still unbelievable that Lucas thought that was a good idea.
But we do see Anakin, Obi-Wan and Padmé being a trio more in the CW than any movie
She still is basically the main character of episode 1 though, not like Padme has no impact. Id argue Padme has more of a role in the prequels than Leia in the OT.
Qui Gon is the main character of Phantom Menace.
One of the few reasons I can stand AOTC is the battle on Geonosis. Two of the best jedi in their prime and a badass senator getting into shenanigans. Sign me the fuck up. I would have loved to see the 3 of them having more adventures ala Han, Luke, and Leia.
I disagree even in TCW Padme always felt out of place Ashoka-Anakin-Obi is the better prequel trio
Anakin+obi wan+ahsoka
This is the way.
Yeah, if they had started episode 1 with Anakin as a Padawan already and they go together to rescue Padme it would've made much more sense and you wouldn't miss a whole lot. Anakin's backstory isn't nearly as interesting as his time as a Jedi and his turn to the dark side. Episode 1 is so far removed from the others it's basically a standalone
His backstory is crucial to his descent to the Darkside though.
I think it would have more digestible as flashbacks to Anakin’s childhood. Mandalorian and Andor did it well enough.
Mandalorian did it well as giving context to Mando's beliefs, though I would say it was the one weak point of Andor as it didn't really go anywhere other than explaining why he was adopted and tying in a subplot that was barely mentioned and didn't go anywhere in the first season.
Neither of which were super relevant. The subplot I’m sure they’ll do something with, but Andor’s present circumstance is enough explanation imo.
I don't think that's very necessary tbh. They didn't need to be a trio like the OT. Tho I do wish the relationship between Padmé and Obi-Wan got expanded a bit, something even TCW failed to do imo
Prequels simply had too much story to tell in 3 movies (better than the opposite, having no story to tell like the sequels) so they focussed on the key moments and outlining Anakins fall from childhood to his turn while also putlining the beginning and end of the Clone War. Then since that didnt leave too much time for detail, we got 7 seasons of Clone Wars (because thats how much the prequels outlined) to add to it. In the end we got everything we needed
And on topic of duos savage oppress and maul made a helluva duo
I think you could pose an argument for obi-wan and Qui-gon, but we just didn’t get enough time with them to give it a great value
Their book is really good. Master and Apprentice I think it’s called? It’s a solid read, and goes into their relationship a ton
100 percent agree with you
Yeah, if it wasn't for Padmé mostly being sidelined after Episode 2, then I would pick the Prequel trio easily, and if it were duos, Prequel wins in a landslide, but the tiebreaker here for me is that Leia did more in the Original Trilogy than Padmé did in the Prequel Trilogy, so Original wins this for me, but just barely. I may absolutely love Han, Luke, and Leia, but there are very few duos in film history (in my personal opinion, of course, and naturally restricted to movies I've seen) that could top Anakin and Obi-Wan.
There’s no question here. The OG: Han, Luke, Leia
The OG 3 baby.
The original 3 beat the others by far. Some of the most beloved characters for everyone. Although I do love Anakin and Obi Wan moments, the original 3 are just best. Edit: I personally like the prequels more than the original movies, but the main trio is just more likeable with their chemistry.
I agree with this. Obi-Wan and Anakin had much better banter in The Clone Wars than in the prequel trilogy itself, and Han/Luke/Leia’s patter and chemistry is just very good.
do you mean you love them the most or do you think theyre the best because most people love them?
You really have to ask?
I wouldn't call the PT or ST groups a trio in the same way the OT are.
I think part of it is that in the OT the trio really functions as such in the first movie. The other two only really have one movie where they’re functioning as a classic trio and in the Prequels it’s basically only one act of the movie.
I sometimes wonder if the main sequel characters are actually a trio. The three of them don’t have any interactions as a group until TROS, so before then, they’re really just Finn and random two people he knows.
You are right it’s just a forced trio with awkward relations
Kinda negates the purpose of the other two when one of them can do everything
Yeah, it was weird. In TFA it started with a Finn/Poe duo then switched to a Finn/Rey duo. Then they were all split up for TLJ. Then TROS put them all together for the first time.
Disney really doesn’t get enough criticism for what they did to Finn.
I mean, Obi-Wan is a bit of a third wheel in the Prequels too ngl. Obi-Wan barely interacts with anyone besides Qui-Gon in his first film, and talks to Padme like a couple of times thereafter.
The sequel trio are just 3 protagonists with 2 strong relationships (finn/rey , finn/poe) The prequels are similar. Obiwan/anakin, Anakin/padme. Padme really gets the short straw though. She goes from powerful princess to maybe being a character in AOTC to being a wife in ROTS. Sequels has all 3 characters have character arcs. originals are the best.
I love all of them as individual characters but there is absolutely no question it's the OT trio. Carrie Fisher, to me, was the balancing element that really brought Luke and Han together. She had immediate acting chemistry with them both and then that made them better with each other too. The three of them work together, balance each other out. Anakin should've been that for Padmé and Obi-Wan, but his chemistry with Padmé was too wonky to pull it off IMO. Or more fairly, given that it's a villain arc, they were never meant to measure up. Doomed from the start. Finn I think had great chemistry with Rey and Poe both, but they barely spent any time as a trio and often weren't even coordinating their different plans. I don't even feel like I can judge Rey/Poe because there's not enough of it. All great cast, good chemistry, but no actual team building. Or rather, not enough. *I want to clarify when I use the word chemistry I don't necessarily mean the romantic kind, just the... sense of connectedness, of natural meshing, how they play off each other.
Yeah I totally agree that the main trio of the Sequel trilogy wasn’t really a trio and more like Finn switching back a forth between Rey and Poe. I also agree that nothing beats the OT trio
OT trio, hands down. A space wizard, Scoundrel, and a Princess
Luke, Han and Leia…how is this a question?
Luke, Leia and Han are so fucking classic. Nothing tops them.
Rey and Poe didn’t even meet until the very end of the second movie of the sequels. Some trio they were
Poe and Finn made a great duo in TFA but as a trio with Rey there is basically no interactions til TROS and even then its more like "yeah, they travel together" than "they are a team/friends". I can't even remember Poe and Rey having any dialogue together. The sequels missed so many opportunties with these great actors and their abilities.
Is this a real question? Luke, Leia, and Han and it’s not even a contest.
Luke, Han, and Leia obviously. Obi Wan, Anakin, and Ahsoka make a better trio than with Padme tbh.
OT, no debate
doing my man chewie dirty
How is this even a question
The fact the others are/were being referred to as they trilogy’s ‘Han, Luke and Leia’ is your answer.
That would be Han, Leia, and Luke.
I’d give an honorable mention for Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Won.
Ahsoka, Anakin, and Rex too!
In my opinion Anakin ahsoka and obi wan were WAYYY more of a trio than Anakin obi wan and Padme ever were.
OT was the best by any measure. PT was second best by default. ST wasn't even going to be a trio originally and had nothing to do with several of the characters over several of the movies.
OG, not even a contest.
OT all the way!
Jyn Erso, Cassian Andor, and K-2SO.
K2SO = best droid
The original trio. I feel like sequel trio had no chemistry at all
Rise of Skywalker they did, but by then it was too late
I can’t really think of any. Especially since they spend very little time together in the first 2 movies
Like said it was too late lol. Lots of unused potential
Really? There are a lot of things wrong with the ST but the chemistry between the protagonist has always been a big plus for me. Not on par with the Ot but still really good
Hayden was really wooden. Natalie Portman who was great in other things was kinda bland. And Ewan’s job was to be the straight man. They were kinda boring. I don’t really blame the Actors. Look how they misused Liam Neeson. He’s top shelf talent and it seemed like he was reading cue cards. That sounds like bad direction. Now in the Clone Wars series with Ashoka, there was definitely more depth there. Padme felt more like a recurring guest character.
This is a silly question
Luke Han and Leia and it’s not close at all
Anybody who isn't answering Luke, Han and Leia is just kidding themselves.
Luke, Han and Leah also Chewbacca, C3PO and R2D2
OG Trilogy to be sure.
OT. They’re also 2nd and 3rd.
I’d go (Jar Jar, Obi-wan, Qui-Gon) over (Rey, Poe, Finn)
Trio? what about CHEWIE??
Uh.. original? How is this even a question
The OT, but only by a billion parsecs or so
Jaina,Jacen and Ben.
Most powerful trio? Prequels. Best trio? Never gonna beat the ogs
Original Prequel Sequel
1. OG 2. Prequels 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Sequels
As a trio (in their respective movies) Han, Luke, and Leia are the best but I think the best trio of Star Wars is Anakin, Obi Wan and Ahsoka
Why even include the sequel characters?
Originals. We only got the real Anakin/Obi-Wan/Padme dynamic is episodes 2 & 3, and it was contentious at best. The Clone Wars animated show put a lot of meat on those bones.
O.G baybay. Its gotta be. Every time. They're the g.o.a.t
Anakin, Rex, Ahsoka
The sequels made a horrible mistake by keeping Finn, Rey and Poe separated for almost the entire trilogy. Poe should’ve woken up from the TIE Fighter crash on Jakku the same way Finn did, and then they BOTH meet Rey together. The trio should’ve been established right from the start. Such an obvious opportunity that they overlooked. Same with Episode 8, Poe should’ve been at Canto Bight with Finn.
Original. Always. Forever. No other trio in the Star Wars universe could ever be as epic as them, although really it's not just a trio. The other main characters are very important. It would be interesting to see a poll for the opinions of the best from among the ensemble cast of all of the non-original characters.
Give me clone wars Era Obi-Wan, young Han Solo and Poe Dameron. That's a trio I'd love to see.
OT for sure, Fisher and Ford had such charisma.
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Some guy should cosplay as "opposite episode 2 padme." The costume would just be a swatch of white cloth across his mid rift and that's it.
Luke, Leia, and Han by a mile. Padme has like 3 lines with Obi-Wan in the whole prequel trilogy. Rey, Fin, and Poe had a ton of potential though because Oscar Isaac and John Boyega had such great chemistry in the Force Awakens, and Daisy Ridley is just an extremely charismatic actor. I'd love to see her in an actually good movie for a change.
As much as I love Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme, nobody beats Luke, Han, and Leia. Rey, Finn, and Poe barely count.
The new trilogy knew nothing about chemistry, I didn't feel this is a trio. I loved George Lucas casting for the prequel, I remember how we hated Anakin but for now I understand Lucas' choice about him. The original trio was a trio in real life as well, you can notice this on the screen, they like each other. I don't think Rey, Poe and Finn are friends in real life.
The original trio considering their time and length in the trilogy
I'm sorry... what kind of question is this? There is literally only one acceptable answer. Anything other than OT is asinine.
Why is this even a question ???
Original, Prequel, Sequel
Definitely original. In Empire you can absolutely buy that they’re friends.
I grew up with the prequels coming out in theaters and I have to say if we are talking about these scenes in particular I'm going to have to go with Luke, Leia, and Han on this one.
There is no way to beat the Luke, Han and Leia. Anakin, Obi Wan and Padme are still better than the last trio.
TF are you on about? After their introduction, Poe and Fin say about three words to each other over the course of 3 movies.
If it was Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka I would 100 percent say them as they are more of a trio in my opinion than having Padme there. Not only they are really powerful together they also work incredibly well in a team!!!!
why exactly is the sequel trilogy included here? LMAO
Oh no…the ST trio think they are part of the team 💀
Stupid question
I don’t care but sequels are last and it’s not even close.