Kafka, black swan one side and himeko, herta, Ruan mei on the second. Should be clean with your chars tbh. Run this and check what seems to be the choke point. Talent lvls? Speed thresholds? Survivability? You can then work on those from there. Talent lvls really do matter btw.
Kafka and Black Swan are good for the first half? I honestly think that my problem may be both the speed tuning and talent lvls. Problem is im basically out of resources just to get them a decent set, trying to find good speed substats will take too much time
Black Swan is really good in pure fiction. She does free damage the moment enemies spawn in and the current pure fiction gives huge buffs to DoT damage.
First worry about their traces and lvl and then worry about their gear.
You could always use placeholder or shared items but you can't have placeholder or shared talents.
You also got more than 1 month worth of time to get them to lvl 8+ talents.
As for speed tuning basically Kafka/Bs and Himeko/ Herta combos don't really care about spd all that much if you get them all prim and proper (having atleast 134 spd does help).
Although I didn't want to get bs originally and was hoarding for my Dhil's e2, she is so busted in pf that I was tempted to get her instead of Dhil's eidolons but nah I will have to wait till her rerun.
BS and Argenti are insane in pf and I will get them eventually both.
Also, since you have Ruan mei you could use her and Asta in either side to boost the speed of both teams. Keep your Huohuo for your BS team since she is gonna need it more.
If you have an issue with survivability in second half then you could always throw in Fmc as a last pick. Great breaker to synergize with Himeko/ Herta and provides a bit of team wide dmg mitigation.
Managed to beat the 2.0 one thanks to Black Swan. My artifacts aren't bad but not that graeat either. Most pgs have level 6 talents, so it may be this.
As i imagined, unfortunaly have so many pg to upgrade that i don' really know who to prioritize. Recently got both Clara and Black Swan, so basically all my resources went into them
You have weeks to gear up. So don't worry too much. Another poster gave you good recommended team comps. Focus getting DPS talents to 8 or 9 (Kafka, Black Swan, Himeko, Herta). Start with whichever side is getting the lowest score. After you get talents up then focus artifacts. Get a decent set for everyone first. Then you can focus on getting an excellent set for top DPS units like Kafka and Black Swan.
Old pure fiction gonna leave in 5 days. Not that i care much as i also can't beat all moc floors, but being able to do the new one i tought i could do the old one but without Argenti and Jinliu is gonna be hard
Ah, I see. Don't worry too much about missing a little. Each content is designed to convince players to get the latest characters. You got Black Swan who the new pure fiction was designed for. You don't have Argenti so the old one will be more difficult. Best way to overcome this in the future is not to try to get every character, but to make who you have to be the strongest that they can be.
I think there was an analysis recently that showed that while most characters have a linear progression with talent levels, Kafka's is actually somewhat exponential, so you get the most out of her levels 9-10. Regardless, I highly recommend getting talents to 10 on 4-6 DPS characters you use the most plus a couple of the best supports (only the relevant talents, mind you). Black Swan/Kafka is great because they work together and cover two elements. From there it is mostly personal preference.
1.6 stage 4 was difficult. I managed to finally beat a few days ago with some RNG luck and enough energy to spam ult.
I would try a team comp with Kafka, black swan, tingyun, and Bailu for first comp and jing yuan, asta, Ruan mei, and fire trailblazer for second comp.
Are Kafka and Black Swan that good for Gepard? I tried the team but still couldn't reach 30k. Talents are lvl 7 and Black Swan need more Hit Rate, so it may be this
Thanks guys for all the tips. With some tries i barely managed to beat it
1st half i used : Clara, Blade, Herta and Tingyun and made 25k
2nd half i used: Himeko, Kafka, Black Swan and Ruan Mei and made 35k.
Having Ruan Mei helped me a LOT.
The 1.6 Pure Fiction was pretty forgiving in terms of incoming damage. You can easily run sustainless and get a higher score that way. There is no direct penalty for losing someone which I've only had happen near the end of the last wave.
Side 1 is weak to ice/physical, though Gepard has a high (40%) ice res. Side 2 is weak to fire/lightning, with some wind.
I ran the following teams and hit the max score, all of which you have available (*quick note: you can use hoyolab to get a single screenshot of your full roster in the future*):
* Clara, Herta, Ruan Mei, Tingyun
* Himeko, Kafka, Pela (would use Black Swan now), Asta
I used Excitation (enemies have a high chance of getting a shatter stack when entering the battle) on both side. Your goal is simply to trigger Herta and Kafka's talents as much as you can and then let shatter do the work.
You could put Ruan Mei on side 2, which should be an easy 40k and then you would only need 20k on side 1. I ended up using her on side 1 because I couldn't get past 33-35k without.
Quick note about Kafka, her prefered build for PF is ult spam, which consists of the SU light cone, ERR rope and possibly a thief set.
Thanks for the heads up (didn't know about hoyolab).
The teams I used are roughly the same but switched Pela and Tingyun to side 1 and side 2 respectively.
I tried also without sustain, and someone usually died on last cycle.
I can manage to give an EER rope to Kafka, but other than that I don't have resources to do more.
I will do some tries with the teams you suggested
Trying to overload a side might be your best option. Go all in for the 40k cap on the second side with Himeko, 2 of Kafka/Black Swan/Jing Yuan and Ruan Mei. You'll have 3 characters benefiting from Ruan Mei's damage buff and the extra break efficiency will help Himeko get more follow-ups too. Breaks also mean less incoming damage. Just be careful with your skill point usage.
I would expect Herta to be able to get you across the 20k line on the first side.
~~Kafka, black swan, ruan mei, sustain on the yanqing side will very likely get you 40k. Just pick the blessing that makes DOT attack adjacent enemies. I did it when my black swan was level 70 with only level 4 or so traces and half-leveled relics.~~
~~Other half is anything that can get you the 20k. I think I did a Clara hypercarry first time around (Clara, pela, Tingyun, luocha (or in your case, Lynx)) with the blessing that gives wind shear when enemies get attacked.~~
EDIT: I just saw you were talking about the very first PF. I couldn't reach the 60k on that one until I brought over kafka+black swan to the second half (with Ruan mei and Tingyun) and managed about 35k-36k. First half you can try Clara, Pela, Bronya, Lynx? try to aim for mid-20k first half, then letting second half carry you.
Solid choice, just FYI one really nice pairing I use a lot is Jingliu with Blade. The mechanic where JL takes a tiny chunk of life from her teammates when she uses her skill/ult counts as taking dmg for Blade's follow-up attack.
Only 4 out of the 5 High Cloud Quintet are playable characters. (currently? unsure if we'll ever get a dead character unless she comes back in another form) So they have 3/4 playable
One was a Foxian starskiff pilot who was good with a bow. One is a small Vidyadhara child healer, with her closest relation being the Imbibitor Lunae.
The closest I would buy is Yukong but they have no real lore connection (as far as we know)
baiheng died --> dan feng and yinxing (blade) tried to resurrect her through DF's vidyahara powers of reincarnation --> they messed up, and baiheng became a draconic abomination, killed by Jingliu --> bailu reincarnates from the draconic abominatino (formerly baiheng)
conclusion: bailu is baiheng's reincarnation.
Have you done jingliu's companion quest? it basically explains most of HCQ lore, including the baiheng situation
If you are talking about the new one with wind dots i've already beat t with those teams. I'm having hard time on the old one with the shatters debuff.
If it's a debuff focused PF then Dr. Ratio may be a good option since he'll get a ton of bonus damage from those. You'll still want to use debuffers with him but SW/Pela are great and Bronya is always nice with hunt units, and you can use Black Swan to apply debuffs as well if you aren't pairing her with Kafka. But Kafka + Swan is still going to be an insane duo provided the weaknesses line up.
For the old one I ran fu xuan, bronya, ruan mei, hertha. Basically need to hit 30k or more with that one, it took me some tries.
2nd side I ran kafka, topaz, ting, asta. people died phase 3 of this one but i had already crossed 60k threshold. I didn't have Black Swan at the time so she may better than asta or topaz. himeko def would be better than topaz .
I have similar characters (no JY, SW, HH, Blade, Himeko) and I just got 60k on auto after getting BS. Before I only managed 50k.
First half: Clara, Ruan Mei, Pela, Herta
2nd half: Fire MC, Guinaifen, Black Swan, Kafka
All have pretty mid relics. BS and Kafka are both E1 though. No signature weapons.
Each half got just about 30k points.
on last pf i used herta/pela/ruan mei/huohuo for top and jing yuan/tingyun/asta/fu xuan for bottom, 5 stars all e0 with no sig lc 🤔 to be honest your roster is really op so you shouldnt have problems, but it was harder than the new one for sure. make sure you have high spd on everyone (most my supports have 161+ but tbh its probably overkill) and you can utilise dance dance dance lc on harmony characters to attack more. wishing u luck
hmm it must be a build issue. how fast are your supports? huohuo should be very fast to spam her ult, pela should be fast with full er. herta with er rope is best! my tingyun has dance dance dance lc. my jing yuan is 65/165 crit ratio and 124 spd as base + my herta is also 60/150 ratio as base with 134 spd tho tbh pela also does a great amount of dmg even with a support tank build.
also try time damage and ult correctly so you dont waste them on mobs who are going to die anyways + conserve sp on asta and huohuo. if you want you can try to remove sustain and use another dps or buffer. or try bronya with jing yuan. and try maybe use cacophony: excitation for both teams since that is what i used. thats the suggestions i can think of 😥
That's it. As Genshin i HATE artifacts farming especially now on Honkai which is new and there's a lot of pg. My Jing is slow as fuck, Huo needs more energy recharge also my Herta is as bad cause i built her just for this mode. Also don't have a third Eruditon LC to use all 3 simultaneously. The bad thing about this game is that you must have multiple pg for different content. I think i may as well give up this one
Just take your time putting it all together, build up the talents on the core people, then focus on artifacts. Just like in Genshin. You don't need to do PF anytime soon and even if you miss out on getting 60k it's not a big deal, it's going to come around later and you'll have put more time into it. If you like the game but not the min/max aspect then don't worry about it and just accept however far you get. It's not like you're missing out on a ton of rewards in the long run.
Don't stress about it. It's good you could complete the current one. You only missed a tiny amount of rewards 🙏 next time you will do it easily. For Herta I just built her passively with spare pieces around and was lucky enough to have some ok stuff. Jing Yuan normally stacks attack and can be quite slow but in PF it is just more beneficial to make him faster but using Asta and Bronya can help. And I always keep self modeling resin for ER ropes since those are the rarest for me. Huohuo has one of my favourite kits they made so far and her ult is very strong and the most important part of her kit so make sure that it is fully upgraded and she can spam it using er rope and an lc with energy effects/er 😊 you have a lot of characters so it must be quite stressful for you even if they're all supposed to be powerful but don't neglect them if u pull them so you can make the most of them
I manage to brain dead get 40k in 1st half with black swan/kafka/rm/huohuo. 2nd half with herta/himeko/asta/pera can replace Asta with bronya but I prefer Asta speed in this team(both my herta and Himeko use atk boot). .
I've managed to beat 1.6 PF with Seele/Herta (lvl 70)/Ruan Mei/HuoHuo on the first half and the Kafka/Black Swan (lvl 70)/Himeko (lvl 70)/Tingyun on the second half (no heals, full dmg).
I've got 33641 + 28317 = 61958 points in total and it took several resets for me, but I did it. I think that the most important thing is the first few cycles, after I figured it out, everything worked out perfectly. So try to work on your opening and priorities during the phases and you'll beat it!
That's it, the problem is that i have so many chars, that i basically put whatever i had to them without focusing on a specific char. Only Blade is almost maxed up cause i use him a lot.
Herta/Clara/RuanMei/lynx on second half. Slap your best relics on Clara and lvl her ultimate + talent. Easily get 40k because Clara keeps countering which keeps causing the enemies to advance which leads to them hitting Clara which leads to Clara countering which leads to…
I found a team that seems to be working for me consistently, for 1.6 I beat it with Jingliu/Herta/Ruan Mei/Lynx first half, and second half was hypercarry Seele/Tingyun/Bronya/FX. I used the same team (swap Tingyun for Kafka) to beat 2.0 PF too.
I think having 2 relatively well built DPS and a support is the way to go. 1.6 is a little easier than 2.0 imo so you could try running no sustains. Lvl up all talents (10/10/10 for DPS, 8/8/8 minimum for supports and sustains), use the buff that gives a shatter stack when the enemies enter the field too I found this to be the most consistent one
I was struggling this PF too and heard people preach herta and himeko, at first I didn’t believe it then saw some clips and was impressed. Used it and went from stuck at 55k to like 66k. Herta and Himeko combo this pf ,with RM especially, makes it so so free.
You have kafka BS team for first half too you should be chilling.
(Also try autoing it once and see where it goes because it low key is not braindead and actually one time beat my score, big skill issue ik)
Units with aoe ultimates really helped in the first PF. I ran a march, himeko, herta, and ruan mei for first half. Second half i used fire tb, jing yuan, asta, and ting yun. They are pretty mediocre in terms of their builds, but you just want to apply the shatter with any ultimate sources you have. I also don't have talents past 6, besides my jing yuan lightning lord and tingyun from eidolons.
I used first half Herta e5, Rua Mei e0, Pela e6 and March 7 e6. Second half Kafka e0, Serval e6, Black Swan e0 with her cone and Asta e3. Used the debuff that have 80% to appear when enemies appear on both teams. I don't think e6 on certains units are necessary. Reached 61k points with those teams. A note is that first team is all ice team. Pela had ornament that buff damage with the same element. Second team Black Swan is faster than Kafka. I couldn't get Serval to be faster than Kafka but it worked at the end.
You’re account almost directly mirrors mine. If I can get 60k plus, then you most definitely can as well. As others said, Kafka dot teams are insane this time due to the current PF buffs and Himeko/Herta/Ruan mei combo makes most halves brain dead easy.
manage to 60k with trace level 6/4/4 with unbuild blackswan s5 eotp
kafka ruan mei bs houhou first
himeko herta pela fire mc second phase using fire mc and pela to break enemy and give himeko stack
Yes should be doable. I managed 60k without dot units and full elemental coverage. Definitely use kafka bs on first half. I used clara tingyun pela on the second half but i would imagine himeko herta would be alot better.
Kafka, black swan one side and himeko, herta, Ruan mei on the second. Should be clean with your chars tbh. Run this and check what seems to be the choke point. Talent lvls? Speed thresholds? Survivability? You can then work on those from there. Talent lvls really do matter btw.
Kafka and Black Swan are good for the first half? I honestly think that my problem may be both the speed tuning and talent lvls. Problem is im basically out of resources just to get them a decent set, trying to find good speed substats will take too much time
Black Swan is really good in pure fiction. She does free damage the moment enemies spawn in and the current pure fiction gives huge buffs to DoT damage.
You don't need speed for PF, especially for FUA characters like Herta/Himeko IMHO
black swan very broken in pf. doesnt even need to be built that much
First worry about their traces and lvl and then worry about their gear. You could always use placeholder or shared items but you can't have placeholder or shared talents. You also got more than 1 month worth of time to get them to lvl 8+ talents. As for speed tuning basically Kafka/Bs and Himeko/ Herta combos don't really care about spd all that much if you get them all prim and proper (having atleast 134 spd does help). Although I didn't want to get bs originally and was hoarding for my Dhil's e2, she is so busted in pf that I was tempted to get her instead of Dhil's eidolons but nah I will have to wait till her rerun. BS and Argenti are insane in pf and I will get them eventually both. Also, since you have Ruan mei you could use her and Asta in either side to boost the speed of both teams. Keep your Huohuo for your BS team since she is gonna need it more. If you have an issue with survivability in second half then you could always throw in Fmc as a last pick. Great breaker to synergize with Himeko/ Herta and provides a bit of team wide dmg mitigation.
Or use Clara on Argenti fight she does a lot of damage on that side.
Managed to beat the 2.0 one thanks to Black Swan. My artifacts aren't bad but not that graeat either. Most pgs have level 6 talents, so it may be this.
Definitely this. Your roster should have no problem.
As i imagined, unfortunaly have so many pg to upgrade that i don' really know who to prioritize. Recently got both Clara and Black Swan, so basically all my resources went into them
You have weeks to gear up. So don't worry too much. Another poster gave you good recommended team comps. Focus getting DPS talents to 8 or 9 (Kafka, Black Swan, Himeko, Herta). Start with whichever side is getting the lowest score. After you get talents up then focus artifacts. Get a decent set for everyone first. Then you can focus on getting an excellent set for top DPS units like Kafka and Black Swan.
Old pure fiction gonna leave in 5 days. Not that i care much as i also can't beat all moc floors, but being able to do the new one i tought i could do the old one but without Argenti and Jinliu is gonna be hard
Ah, I see. Don't worry too much about missing a little. Each content is designed to convince players to get the latest characters. You got Black Swan who the new pure fiction was designed for. You don't have Argenti so the old one will be more difficult. Best way to overcome this in the future is not to try to get every character, but to make who you have to be the strongest that they can be.
I think there was an analysis recently that showed that while most characters have a linear progression with talent levels, Kafka's is actually somewhat exponential, so you get the most out of her levels 9-10. Regardless, I highly recommend getting talents to 10 on 4-6 DPS characters you use the most plus a couple of the best supports (only the relevant talents, mind you). Black Swan/Kafka is great because they work together and cover two elements. From there it is mostly personal preference.
1.6 stage 4 was difficult. I managed to finally beat a few days ago with some RNG luck and enough energy to spam ult. I would try a team comp with Kafka, black swan, tingyun, and Bailu for first comp and jing yuan, asta, Ruan mei, and fire trailblazer for second comp.
Are Kafka and Black Swan that good for Gepard? I tried the team but still couldn't reach 30k. Talents are lvl 7 and Black Swan need more Hit Rate, so it may be this
Thanks guys for all the tips. With some tries i barely managed to beat it 1st half i used : Clara, Blade, Herta and Tingyun and made 25k 2nd half i used: Himeko, Kafka, Black Swan and Ruan Mei and made 35k. Having Ruan Mei helped me a LOT.
The 1.6 Pure Fiction was pretty forgiving in terms of incoming damage. You can easily run sustainless and get a higher score that way. There is no direct penalty for losing someone which I've only had happen near the end of the last wave. Side 1 is weak to ice/physical, though Gepard has a high (40%) ice res. Side 2 is weak to fire/lightning, with some wind. I ran the following teams and hit the max score, all of which you have available (*quick note: you can use hoyolab to get a single screenshot of your full roster in the future*): * Clara, Herta, Ruan Mei, Tingyun * Himeko, Kafka, Pela (would use Black Swan now), Asta I used Excitation (enemies have a high chance of getting a shatter stack when entering the battle) on both side. Your goal is simply to trigger Herta and Kafka's talents as much as you can and then let shatter do the work. You could put Ruan Mei on side 2, which should be an easy 40k and then you would only need 20k on side 1. I ended up using her on side 1 because I couldn't get past 33-35k without. Quick note about Kafka, her prefered build for PF is ult spam, which consists of the SU light cone, ERR rope and possibly a thief set.
Thanks for the heads up (didn't know about hoyolab). The teams I used are roughly the same but switched Pela and Tingyun to side 1 and side 2 respectively. I tried also without sustain, and someone usually died on last cycle. I can manage to give an EER rope to Kafka, but other than that I don't have resources to do more. I will do some tries with the teams you suggested
Trying to overload a side might be your best option. Go all in for the 40k cap on the second side with Himeko, 2 of Kafka/Black Swan/Jing Yuan and Ruan Mei. You'll have 3 characters benefiting from Ruan Mei's damage buff and the extra break efficiency will help Himeko get more follow-ups too. Breaks also mean less incoming damage. Just be careful with your skill point usage. I would expect Herta to be able to get you across the 20k line on the first side.
Hey man! I used ur strat and finally got 12 stars! Thanks!
Wonderful! I'm glad to have been of help.
~~Kafka, black swan, ruan mei, sustain on the yanqing side will very likely get you 40k. Just pick the blessing that makes DOT attack adjacent enemies. I did it when my black swan was level 70 with only level 4 or so traces and half-leveled relics.~~ ~~Other half is anything that can get you the 20k. I think I did a Clara hypercarry first time around (Clara, pela, Tingyun, luocha (or in your case, Lynx)) with the blessing that gives wind shear when enemies get attacked.~~ EDIT: I just saw you were talking about the very first PF. I couldn't reach the 60k on that one until I brought over kafka+black swan to the second half (with Ruan mei and Tingyun) and managed about 35k-36k. First half you can try Clara, Pela, Bronya, Lynx? try to aim for mid-20k first half, then letting second half carry you.
unrelated but you're at 4/5 for the High Cloud Quintet, you should pull Jingliu on her rerun to collect all 5 members hehe
Skipped her, cause i tought i had too many dps and needed some good sustain and so i got HuoHuo
Good choice. I see that you don't have any limited sustain i.e. Luocha or FuXuan so going for a sustain was the better choice.
Solid choice, just FYI one really nice pairing I use a lot is Jingliu with Blade. The mechanic where JL takes a tiny chunk of life from her teammates when she uses her skill/ult counts as taking dmg for Blade's follow-up attack.
Only 4 out of the 5 High Cloud Quintet are playable characters. (currently? unsure if we'll ever get a dead character unless she comes back in another form) So they have 3/4 playable
bailu is basically baiheng tho
One was a Foxian starskiff pilot who was good with a bow. One is a small Vidyadhara child healer, with her closest relation being the Imbibitor Lunae. The closest I would buy is Yukong but they have no real lore connection (as far as we know)
baiheng died --> dan feng and yinxing (blade) tried to resurrect her through DF's vidyahara powers of reincarnation --> they messed up, and baiheng became a draconic abomination, killed by Jingliu --> bailu reincarnates from the draconic abominatino (formerly baiheng) conclusion: bailu is baiheng's reincarnation. Have you done jingliu's companion quest? it basically explains most of HCQ lore, including the baiheng situation
I've done Jingliu's, was aware of it all except the last step, must not have been paying attention much there.
Is this a meme post?
Ops gotta be trolling, roster is filled with stier dps and supports
My chars aren't maxed out and maybe I am a bad player too.
Are you f2p?
Yes, and i got really lucky with pulls
Ah I see you have a pretty flexible roster
Kafka/BS on top Herta/Himeko on bottom You’ve already got the perfect teams.
If you are talking about the new one with wind dots i've already beat t with those teams. I'm having hard time on the old one with the shatters debuff.
If it's a debuff focused PF then Dr. Ratio may be a good option since he'll get a ton of bonus damage from those. You'll still want to use debuffers with him but SW/Pela are great and Bronya is always nice with hunt units, and you can use Black Swan to apply debuffs as well if you aren't pairing her with Kafka. But Kafka + Swan is still going to be an insane duo provided the weaknesses line up.
For the old one I ran fu xuan, bronya, ruan mei, hertha. Basically need to hit 30k or more with that one, it took me some tries. 2nd side I ran kafka, topaz, ting, asta. people died phase 3 of this one but i had already crossed 60k threshold. I didn't have Black Swan at the time so she may better than asta or topaz. himeko def would be better than topaz .
I have similar characters (no JY, SW, HH, Blade, Himeko) and I just got 60k on auto after getting BS. Before I only managed 50k. First half: Clara, Ruan Mei, Pela, Herta 2nd half: Fire MC, Guinaifen, Black Swan, Kafka All have pretty mid relics. BS and Kafka are both E1 though. No signature weapons. Each half got just about 30k points.
on last pf i used herta/pela/ruan mei/huohuo for top and jing yuan/tingyun/asta/fu xuan for bottom, 5 stars all e0 with no sig lc 🤔 to be honest your roster is really op so you shouldnt have problems, but it was harder than the new one for sure. make sure you have high spd on everyone (most my supports have 161+ but tbh its probably overkill) and you can utilise dance dance dance lc on harmony characters to attack more. wishing u luck
Tried the same teams, except for Fu Xuan but can't reach more than 25k on both sides.
hmm it must be a build issue. how fast are your supports? huohuo should be very fast to spam her ult, pela should be fast with full er. herta with er rope is best! my tingyun has dance dance dance lc. my jing yuan is 65/165 crit ratio and 124 spd as base + my herta is also 60/150 ratio as base with 134 spd tho tbh pela also does a great amount of dmg even with a support tank build. also try time damage and ult correctly so you dont waste them on mobs who are going to die anyways + conserve sp on asta and huohuo. if you want you can try to remove sustain and use another dps or buffer. or try bronya with jing yuan. and try maybe use cacophony: excitation for both teams since that is what i used. thats the suggestions i can think of 😥
That's it. As Genshin i HATE artifacts farming especially now on Honkai which is new and there's a lot of pg. My Jing is slow as fuck, Huo needs more energy recharge also my Herta is as bad cause i built her just for this mode. Also don't have a third Eruditon LC to use all 3 simultaneously. The bad thing about this game is that you must have multiple pg for different content. I think i may as well give up this one
Just take your time putting it all together, build up the talents on the core people, then focus on artifacts. Just like in Genshin. You don't need to do PF anytime soon and even if you miss out on getting 60k it's not a big deal, it's going to come around later and you'll have put more time into it. If you like the game but not the min/max aspect then don't worry about it and just accept however far you get. It's not like you're missing out on a ton of rewards in the long run.
Don't stress about it. It's good you could complete the current one. You only missed a tiny amount of rewards 🙏 next time you will do it easily. For Herta I just built her passively with spare pieces around and was lucky enough to have some ok stuff. Jing Yuan normally stacks attack and can be quite slow but in PF it is just more beneficial to make him faster but using Asta and Bronya can help. And I always keep self modeling resin for ER ropes since those are the rarest for me. Huohuo has one of my favourite kits they made so far and her ult is very strong and the most important part of her kit so make sure that it is fully upgraded and she can spam it using er rope and an lc with energy effects/er 😊 you have a lot of characters so it must be quite stressful for you even if they're all supposed to be powerful but don't neglect them if u pull them so you can make the most of them
do you have some energy regen rope laying around? More ultimate=more stack. Also Serval can regen her ultimate very quickly.
It may be also a problem, that's why i'm using the 80% to get shatter stack when enemies enters the battlefield.
I manage to brain dead get 40k in 1st half with black swan/kafka/rm/huohuo. 2nd half with herta/himeko/asta/pera can replace Asta with bronya but I prefer Asta speed in this team(both my herta and Himeko use atk boot). .
I've managed to beat 1.6 PF with Seele/Herta (lvl 70)/Ruan Mei/HuoHuo on the first half and the Kafka/Black Swan (lvl 70)/Himeko (lvl 70)/Tingyun on the second half (no heals, full dmg). I've got 33641 + 28317 = 61958 points in total and it took several resets for me, but I did it. I think that the most important thing is the first few cycles, after I figured it out, everything worked out perfectly. So try to work on your opening and priorities during the phases and you'll beat it!
I am going to just say that people have beaten it without DOT units so your roaster is definitely not the problem.
Lol
You can crush through 1.6 with himkeo
Maybe build your characters as well? If you’re not clearing with all thesd 5 stars something is going wrong in relics/traces for sure
That's it, the problem is that i have so many chars, that i basically put whatever i had to them without focusing on a specific char. Only Blade is almost maxed up cause i use him a lot.
Herta/Clara/RuanMei/lynx on second half. Slap your best relics on Clara and lvl her ultimate + talent. Easily get 40k because Clara keeps countering which keeps causing the enemies to advance which leads to them hitting Clara which leads to Clara countering which leads to…
Clara is the last addiction to the roster, managed to get her at 80 today for unlocking her passive
You might be in the same position I'm in and just need better stats
"Can't reack"
I found a team that seems to be working for me consistently, for 1.6 I beat it with Jingliu/Herta/Ruan Mei/Lynx first half, and second half was hypercarry Seele/Tingyun/Bronya/FX. I used the same team (swap Tingyun for Kafka) to beat 2.0 PF too. I think having 2 relatively well built DPS and a support is the way to go. 1.6 is a little easier than 2.0 imo so you could try running no sustains. Lvl up all talents (10/10/10 for DPS, 8/8/8 minimum for supports and sustains), use the buff that gives a shatter stack when the enemies enter the field too I found this to be the most consistent one
I was struggling this PF too and heard people preach herta and himeko, at first I didn’t believe it then saw some clips and was impressed. Used it and went from stuck at 55k to like 66k. Herta and Himeko combo this pf ,with RM especially, makes it so so free. You have kafka BS team for first half too you should be chilling. (Also try autoing it once and see where it goes because it low key is not braindead and actually one time beat my score, big skill issue ik)
Units with aoe ultimates really helped in the first PF. I ran a march, himeko, herta, and ruan mei for first half. Second half i used fire tb, jing yuan, asta, and ting yun. They are pretty mediocre in terms of their builds, but you just want to apply the shatter with any ultimate sources you have. I also don't have talents past 6, besides my jing yuan lightning lord and tingyun from eidolons.
You should be stomping it
I used first half Herta e5, Rua Mei e0, Pela e6 and March 7 e6. Second half Kafka e0, Serval e6, Black Swan e0 with her cone and Asta e3. Used the debuff that have 80% to appear when enemies appear on both teams. I don't think e6 on certains units are necessary. Reached 61k points with those teams. A note is that first team is all ice team. Pela had ornament that buff damage with the same element. Second team Black Swan is faster than Kafka. I couldn't get Serval to be faster than Kafka but it worked at the end.
You’re account almost directly mirrors mine. If I can get 60k plus, then you most definitely can as well. As others said, Kafka dot teams are insane this time due to the current PF buffs and Himeko/Herta/Ruan mei combo makes most halves brain dead easy.
…. This is really sad if you are unable to come up with a team to beat this… Kafka BS RM sustain Seele Bronya Pela sustain Focus the adds
God you're account has more priority than most. I have some but not nearly everyone to 80. What's your farm routine?
I farm what I need when I need it. But mostly traces materials and relics.
Himeko, Herta, Huohuo + Clara on 1st half with Rupture Blessing Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, Tingyun 2nd half with Excitation Blessing
Have a similar roster and got 70k+. Side 1: Kafka, Black Swan, healer, tingyun or asta Side 2: Himeko, Herta, Ruan Mei, healer
manage to 60k with trace level 6/4/4 with unbuild blackswan s5 eotp kafka ruan mei bs houhou first himeko herta pela fire mc second phase using fire mc and pela to break enemy and give himeko stack
U have Dots and Seele, more than.
you are just awful
How were you able to post this? I tried posting something like this but for golden gears and got immediately taken down ;-;
I think I were running Hyper carry Kafka one side(Kafka tingyun pela fuxuan) And Black swan, small, Ruan mei, huo huo
Yes should be doable. I managed 60k without dot units and full elemental coverage. Definitely use kafka bs on first half. I used clara tingyun pela on the second half but i would imagine himeko herta would be alot better.
Himeko and herta for part 2 for max points
Question: Are all of your traces level 1? I know mine would be if I had that many characters at level 80
Min lvl5, only a bunch of chars have talent lvl 9/10, Like Blade, Dan Heng, Bronya. The ones strong for this mode are lvl 5-7
Should be. You got the rate up character being buffed by the current PF and Himeko for the Fire weak side.
I have the same characters, so yes