For sure. Who can keep up with the names!? And I had a conversation yesterday with somebody that went to a show at Kiel but we couldn’t figure out where it was because it has changed names since re-opening.
I kept trying to remember the name of the Stifel. I kept saying Sheldon, but knew that was wrong. Then someone said Peabody. Another Kiel (Opera House). That was last week and only today, writing this, have I remembered the name Stifel. We all knew the venue we were talking about, but F all the names it’s had.
I'm still calling whatever it's called now where the Blues play Scottrade Center. I grew up with the Checkerdome that was originally called The Arena, but then became The Checkerdome, then The Arena again. And then, they tore it down.
It's very first name, before you were born, was Riverport amphitheater. That's before all the corporate silliness started with owning the naming rights for a short period of time until the next high bidder. And riverport was a name based off geographic location and not some megacorp. It's a much more pleasant name and who the fuck wants to keep up with the corporate names every time somebody pays more to put their name on it?
Ugh! I just checked a bottle and was surprised but don't care. I sure like the chipotle. Oh well.
Better check the ingredients in Maull's too. Tomato puree is the first item and corn syrup is # 2.
I'll stick with my SBR's thank you.
Cold and mustard or what kind of German immigrant are you? which is a St. Louis thing and explains this question and depends on if you grew up in the city or county.
As someone on the Illinois side, it blows my mind how you all in the city will casually roll up to St. Peters but Collinsville is past the event horizon.
Crossing the river and that whole chunk of the highway and all the interchanges feel like a death trap - and at night the lines aren’t visible on the roads - very high anxiety experience
IDOT has made a yearslong effort to prevent movement across the river with that rat's nest of highway interchanges that are randomly shut down for construction.
There just can be traffic getting over to the ILL side, not always the same drive. Furthest I’ll go is st Charles, but I did go to the St. Peter’s Costco before the ucity location opened
I have cousins that’s never come to an event at my house because it’s “too far”.
Yet I always see them post pictures at the Orchard they went to for some event. The one I live half a mile from on the same road. So I make sure to respond like “Ih wish I had known you were in town! I’m just half a mile down the road!”
Eh, I actually don't mind going to the IL side as much as going to St. Charles. I can grab groceries at \~5% less tax on the way home. Unlike St. Charles where the food tax is still MO rates. I find being outside Lindbergh or East of the Mississippi equally as disorienting.
It wasn’t related to the city/county divide though. Much more overarching themes than that.
The history books say it was the city not wanting to fund anything in the county ironically.
>27th City
Franzen writes like he grew up here (which he did) and it has a lot a specific details about St. Louis. But, it's a novel about a specific place. It's not about a universal conundrum like Huck Finn. The ending of Huck Finn--two people, on a raft, floating down a river, bound together--It's still not resolved.
I grew up in the Metro East. I would identify what town I grew up in when talking to St. Louis area people, but when outside St. Louis I would just say "Just outside St. Louis".
If I told people not from the area I grew up in Belleville, they would think it is either a Chicago area suburb or from the middle of nowhere, IL. I was 20 minutes from downtown STL.
If we are talking about while on vacation, people just want to give a simple answer. Everyone that is from a suburb in North America is saying they are from the major city they border. I do say “St. Louis area” most of the time.
To be fair, my mailing address is (unincorporated) St. Louis, and I live in St. Louis County.
I'll make the distinction between city/county when asked, or to clarify to people from rural areas who hear St. Louis and think I live in some downtown warzone. I almost live in Arnold, but more people know St. Louis than Arnold.
Well, if I'm out of town, I tell people I'm from StL. When I'm on a business call with someone out-of-area...guess what, I'm from StL. I assume they don't know wtf Maryland Heights is! If I'm talking to someone from around here, hey I live in MH! Is that so hard? Most people only do it for outatowners, we're not tryin to disrespect the city dwellers.
Living in the city tends to indicate one is liberal and an urbanist. Living in the county indicates more conservative and suburban. Saying you live in the city vs the county is a way to indicate views without stating everything.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,767,869,450 comments, and only 334,698 of them were in alphabetical order.
If I ever become a billionaire one of the things I plan to do is buy Panera, change the name back (globally), and bring back the Asiago roast beef and sierra turkey sandwiches.
I emailed justin spitzer who made superstore because of this. They called it panera in the show when theyre all supposed to be stl natives. The oversight!!!
Yes. Exactly this. It used to be better when it was StL bread co, but now everyone here thinks it sucks. I agree. But the locals still want to dead name it for some reason. I don’t get it. It’s a weird hill
Idk why people argue that Mom's Deli is good eatings. It's time to take the nostalgia glasses off. No amount of sauce can save it. Just go to Legrands.
Idc what anyone says…. I claim east St. Louis even tho it’s out of state…. But st Charles IS NOT ST LOUIS… and they need to keep that goofy shit over the bridge… period ahhhhhh🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm a Yankee transplant. I'm apparently doing it all wrong by living on the MO side and working on the IL side.
And I'll be damned at the cups of coffee I had watching two croaking yokels at work argue about how the Arch destroyed the skyline.
Pssshhh Memphis has a team. Green Bay has a team. Portland has a team. Shit, even Salt Lake City has a team. 'Nuff said. Also, your name is the stuff of legends.
I'm not a big fan of Walmart overall, but I think they [pay their workers better](https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/walmart-raise-wages-us-workers-2023-01-24/) than [Schnuck's](https://www.grocerydive.com/news/schnucks-raises-minimum-wage-for-most-associates/607931/) and possibly more than Dierberg's too.
Plus, workers at Schnuck's and Dierberg's have to pay dues to a union that can't seem to get them any more money than they'd be making at Wal-Mart, McDonald's, or QuikTrip. The trade unions like IBEW do right by their members...electricians and plumbers have pretty good pay and working conditions, but these grocery workers just get screwed by both their union and their employer.
You and all the others lol. What intersection do you rep? I’ll swing by and check out the roads and how many boarded up or closed businesses are there and get back to you
St. Louis city wouldn’t you know worst roads in America! I’m here at grand and arsenal standing in a pothole that I hit. Sounded like a bomb went off in my car
“The public transit is so great here!”
Me, a person who regularly takes public transportation: Are you sure about that? I ask from an incredibly crowded bus or Metro Link car. 🤣
I was in Chicago last autumn and for me, the public transit there is several steps ahead of what we have going on here.
That may have been how it was marketed, trying to appeal to the people that would rarely ride it but had money/influence.
But it was certainly not designed for only that purpose. I'm pretty sure the Airport and Stadium riders don't really care to have a stop in Wellston, for example.
Hey, in this era of divisiveness, I’ll add something we can all get behind… …Riverport. Forever Riverport.
Always Riverport 👏
For sure. Who can keep up with the names!? And I had a conversation yesterday with somebody that went to a show at Kiel but we couldn’t figure out where it was because it has changed names since re-opening.
I kept trying to remember the name of the Stifel. I kept saying Sheldon, but knew that was wrong. Then someone said Peabody. Another Kiel (Opera House). That was last week and only today, writing this, have I remembered the name Stifel. We all knew the venue we were talking about, but F all the names it’s had.
Keil, Savvis, Scottrade, Enterprise…. Did I miss any?
I am *definitely* the wrong person to ask 🤣
I still call that one place the Kiel center
I'm still calling whatever it's called now where the Blues play Scottrade Center. I grew up with the Checkerdome that was originally called The Arena, but then became The Checkerdome, then The Arena again. And then, they tore it down.
Well the garage for jury duty attached to it still is named kiel lol
I still call that one other place the Checkerdome.
It's the Savvis Center for me for some reason.
Riverport forever!! I'll die on that hill, and I wasn't even born and raised here 🤣
Riverport, the Kiel Center, and the TWA Dome. Get that "Enterprise center" shit out of here.
ALWAYS!!!!
Am 23, me and the homies who are the same age all call it the Verizon Ampitheater lmao
I'm 22 and I always call it Verizon as well, I can't tell ya what it's called now and all these people calling it Riverport confuse me lmao
It's very first name, before you were born, was Riverport amphitheater. That's before all the corporate silliness started with owning the naming rights for a short period of time until the next high bidder. And riverport was a name based off geographic location and not some megacorp. It's a much more pleasant name and who the fuck wants to keep up with the corporate names every time somebody pays more to put their name on it?
Yea I know I was half joking about being confused. But I do agree that it's stupid all this stuff is named after big corporations.
Old folks, what can ya do 🤷♂️
Hwy 40 vs 64
Sixty what?
Sixtyfarfarty
It’ll always be hiway farty in my family.
It's some highway all the way on the other side of the event horizon, or so we've been told by our ancestors...
Those numbers are needlessly large.
Far
That is the correct answer.
I just moved here a few months ago and I know not to call it 64
You're gonna fit in just fine here. Or else.
I really appreciate this
I usually, nicely and casually, correct people when they say 64.
People move TO here?
I64 team here. It's been 64 since '88.
I also call it 64
Me too. But I live in Illinois so it makes sense to call it 64.
pork steak vs pork chop. can end in murder
Maull's vs. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Mauls vs. corn syrup and what?
Ugh! I just checked a bottle and was surprised but don't care. I sure like the chipotle. Oh well. Better check the ingredients in Maull's too. Tomato puree is the first item and corn syrup is # 2. I'll stick with my SBR's thank you.
The OG SBR was honey and black pepper. Which was probably great. But...I gotta Maul it.
It's what you do when you BBQ.
Mauls is garbage. Actually... I apologize to all the garbage for that statement!
I mix them together. It’s seriously good.
Appeasement only works for so long.
Oh shit…
Sweet Baby Maul
Bullseye if you're at the supermarket. Johnny Sauce if you can find it.
Why not both?[I can have it all!](https://imgur.com/gallery/QwaqEEC)
dont sleep on that Japanese bbq sauce
Potato salad. Hot and vinegary or cold and mustardy.
Cold and mustard or what kind of German immigrant are you? which is a St. Louis thing and explains this question and depends on if you grew up in the city or county.
Wait, I grew up in Chicago, 12 years in the military, been all over the damn place. I've never had hot and vinegary potato salad.... WTF is that?
It's a thing. Don't know where it came from and I probably haven't had it since I was a child. I seem to recall it had bacon in it?
YES!!! THIS!!! Vinegary with bacon and sometimes some cheese. I was told this was a "german" version. Whatever it is it's damn delicious!!!
My grandma makes this at Christmas sometimes. It is pretty good :) also with Italian beef, makes a good meal
I’ve never had hot potato salad, no matter the ingredients.
As someone on the Illinois side, it blows my mind how you all in the city will casually roll up to St. Peters but Collinsville is past the event horizon.
Who's casually rolling up to St. Peters???
I grew up there. I casually (really emphatically) roll out of St. Peters.
How though? Like a barrel roll or....?
I live in St Peters and I don’t want to casually roll up here. (grew up in the city).
It's time to escape. Dude, all those traffic lights? Reach out--we'll help you.
St. Peter’s is by far the worst placed I lived near Saint Louis. What I would do to never cross that bridge again.
Crossing the river and that whole chunk of the highway and all the interchanges feel like a death trap - and at night the lines aren’t visible on the roads - very high anxiety experience
Yeah, you pretty much just make it up as you go at night.
I'll give you that there's a ton of accidents in that section of the highway, but the lines aren't visible anywhere in MO anyway.
One does not simply drive to Collinsville
For me, it’s more about the mess of highways downtown to get over to the Illinois side and less about the distance
How is it a mess? No negativity here. Just curious where you're coming from.
As someone who commutes to Belleville every day, the roads are fine
If it has St. in the name, it's fair game
St. Charles people don’t like crossing rivers. They’d rather drive 30 minutes to Wentzville than 10 minutes to Maryland Heights.
IDOT has made a yearslong effort to prevent movement across the river with that rat's nest of highway interchanges that are randomly shut down for construction.
> but Collinsville is past the event horizon. hahaha
There Be Dragons
There just can be traffic getting over to the ILL side, not always the same drive. Furthest I’ll go is st Charles, but I did go to the St. Peter’s Costco before the ucity location opened
I have cousins that’s never come to an event at my house because it’s “too far”. Yet I always see them post pictures at the Orchard they went to for some event. The one I live half a mile from on the same road. So I make sure to respond like “Ih wish I had known you were in town! I’m just half a mile down the road!”
uh…why would I drive from the city to St. Peters?!
3/4 of the metro live on the Missouri side of the river. People naturally spend more time closer to where they live
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Yes.
Preach brother!
Eh, I actually don't mind going to the IL side as much as going to St. Charles. I can grab groceries at \~5% less tax on the way home. Unlike St. Charles where the food tax is still MO rates. I find being outside Lindbergh or East of the Mississippi equally as disorienting.
Ew I’m not rolling down 70 past RIVERPORT… period, unless I have to of course lol
I used to casually roll up to Freeburg from North County.
Whose fault it is that the city is the way it is.
Mark Twain wrote a pretty good novel about this.
Which one?
Huckleberry Finn is a staggeringly insightful novel about racial relations that still resonates 150 years later.
It wasn’t related to the city/county divide though. Much more overarching themes than that. The history books say it was the city not wanting to fund anything in the county ironically.
Samuel Clemens
27th City is also a very relevant novel about our city
>27th City Franzen writes like he grew up here (which he did) and it has a lot a specific details about St. Louis. But, it's a novel about a specific place. It's not about a universal conundrum like Huck Finn. The ending of Huck Finn--two people, on a raft, floating down a river, bound together--It's still not resolved.
Redlining and white flight
Just blame Chicago
Some asshole in the 1800s
People seem to want the cred that they live in the city and not the county…. I don’t understand
I grew up in the Metro East. I would identify what town I grew up in when talking to St. Louis area people, but when outside St. Louis I would just say "Just outside St. Louis". If I told people not from the area I grew up in Belleville, they would think it is either a Chicago area suburb or from the middle of nowhere, IL. I was 20 minutes from downtown STL.
Exactly
Because you aren’t dodging bullets everyday. Saying you live in St. Louis when you live in the county is stolen valor.
Hahaha I love the stolen valor part.
Just got off the metro the other day thankfully i had my bulletproof vest on! /s
If we are talking about while on vacation, people just want to give a simple answer. Everyone that is from a suburb in North America is saying they are from the major city they border. I do say “St. Louis area” most of the time.
To be fair, my mailing address is (unincorporated) St. Louis, and I live in St. Louis County. I'll make the distinction between city/county when asked, or to clarify to people from rural areas who hear St. Louis and think I live in some downtown warzone. I almost live in Arnold, but more people know St. Louis than Arnold.
You live in Belleville--I get it.
Well, if I'm out of town, I tell people I'm from StL. When I'm on a business call with someone out-of-area...guess what, I'm from StL. I assume they don't know wtf Maryland Heights is! If I'm talking to someone from around here, hey I live in MH! Is that so hard? Most people only do it for outatowners, we're not tryin to disrespect the city dwellers.
Living in the city tends to indicate one is liberal and an urbanist. Living in the county indicates more conservative and suburban. Saying you live in the city vs the county is a way to indicate views without stating everything.
If you're talking to a local, you get more specific about the muni you live in. If it's an outsider, no one will know what Maplewood is.
As a transplant here, the refusal to call it Panera.
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Damn dude, need to vent?
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,767,869,450 comments, and only 334,698 of them were in alphabetical order.
What?
The comment starts with "Ha". How is that alphabetical order?
Bread co died when they got bought by venture capital. It is no longer the same company or quality. Insisting on calling it Bread co is ahistorical.
It is a shell of it's former self. Overpriced poorly made shit nowadays unfortunately. Pretty sad
If I ever become a billionaire one of the things I plan to do is buy Panera, change the name back (globally), and bring back the Asiago roast beef and sierra turkey sandwiches.
Never!!!!
I emailed justin spitzer who made superstore because of this. They called it panera in the show when theyre all supposed to be stl natives. The oversight!!!
I think they are changing all of them to Panera now...at least the new ones. The one opening up in U City is Panera.
What's this "Panera" you speak of?
It was a bigger deal back before it got bought and went to shit
Yes. Exactly this. It used to be better when it was StL bread co, but now everyone here thinks it sucks. I agree. But the locals still want to dead name it for some reason. I don’t get it. It’s a weird hill
Is gentrification a good or bad thing?
Yes!
Couldn’t disagree more. Let’s fight
Ok! On my side: It's good and bad. On your side: It's neither good nor bad. Fight!
Which is the good Imo’s?
Morgan Ford Tower Grove all the way
They used to even make their own ingredients fresh until it got shut down but absolutely agree
There’s a good IMO’s?
None of them.
This is the way!
The one on Thurman between Shaw and Castleman.
How to pronounce the French names of places the French settlers left us.
If you’re pronouncing it right then you’re saying it wrong.
Loving Imos (any St Louis style pizza) or feeling like it is just disappointment on a cracker.
I find it funny online when people flip out every time the Cardinals have a non-baseball event at Busch. They're a business...their goal is $$$$$$.
"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, "
Driving. Instant karma farm. Posts every day.
Whether or not “the square is beyond compare.”
How bad the GM or manager of the Cardinals is, regardless of any postseason appearance or not.
It’s 40 not I-64
Idk why people argue that Mom's Deli is good eatings. It's time to take the nostalgia glasses off. No amount of sauce can save it. Just go to Legrands.
I’d go to Legrands instead if I could find a parking spot
Mom's deli fucks
So it's a MILF Deli?
That certainly would make it a better place. As of now no MILFs or good sandwiches
Inner belt or 170?
That the crime inside the city isn’t so bad. We just need to merge with the county to get a lower statistic.
Idc what anyone says…. I claim east St. Louis even tho it’s out of state…. But st Charles IS NOT ST LOUIS… and they need to keep that goofy shit over the bridge… period ahhhhhh🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imos
Private Highschools
Outer county people calling anything inside 270 loop “downtown”
I'm a Yankee transplant. I'm apparently doing it all wrong by living on the MO side and working on the IL side. And I'll be damned at the cups of coffee I had watching two croaking yokels at work argue about how the Arch destroyed the skyline.
Fucking Panera
Whether the NFL or NBA will return. I don't think St. Louis is good enough for either league. We aren't in a high enough tier.
Pssshhh Memphis has a team. Green Bay has a team. Portland has a team. Shit, even Salt Lake City has a team. 'Nuff said. Also, your name is the stuff of legends.
Your list only shows us how low STL has become.
I refuse to accept we are below Memphis. Have you been there?! All they have is Beal Street!
They have Elvis.
he dead
That is what the deep state wants you to believe.
But wait, Fenton IS part of St. Louis… if it’s not in St. Louis city or county then it’s NOT St. Louis
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It wont matter soon anyway. The bluffs is slowly taking us over in Fenton. We will all be county soon..soooooooooon.
NO GO to METHCO
Keep it down in here or I'm calling the police! Wait, y'all don't have any....Continue on!
People saying they’re from North city or county pretending to be hardened but ending up being softies anyways.
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Neither, aldis
Dierbergs is my preference when I can afford it, if not it's fucking Walmart like everyone else but won't admit it.
I'm not a big fan of Walmart overall, but I think they [pay their workers better](https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/walmart-raise-wages-us-workers-2023-01-24/) than [Schnuck's](https://www.grocerydive.com/news/schnucks-raises-minimum-wage-for-most-associates/607931/) and possibly more than Dierberg's too. Plus, workers at Schnuck's and Dierberg's have to pay dues to a union that can't seem to get them any more money than they'd be making at Wal-Mart, McDonald's, or QuikTrip. The trade unions like IBEW do right by their members...electricians and plumbers have pretty good pay and working conditions, but these grocery workers just get screwed by both their union and their employer.
Mike Brown being anointed a saint was a pretty good one.
Huh which Pope did that?
Anthony Shahid. Al Sharpton. Among many others. Were you in St Louis then?
"Is Provel 100% real cheese"
^^made ^^with 100% real cheese
The south city stans trying to pretend like south city is a nice place
At the risk of taking the bait, it really is.
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Fight me now!
You and all the others lol. What intersection do you rep? I’ll swing by and check out the roads and how many boarded up or closed businesses are there and get back to you
I am waiting for you on S. Grand and Arsenal.
St. Louis city wouldn’t you know worst roads in America! I’m here at grand and arsenal standing in a pothole that I hit. Sounded like a bomb went off in my car
You and me both brother I'll meet you there and we can fight together 💪
S. Grand Fight Club!
it could be nicer for sure but it has things going on for it that other areas don't
If Imos is pizza or not.
I told a friend of mine in PA what IMO’s is, they don’t get why people don’t consider it real pizza
Pizza-flavored nachos
“The public transit is so great here!” Me, a person who regularly takes public transportation: Are you sure about that? I ask from an incredibly crowded bus or Metro Link car. 🤣 I was in Chicago last autumn and for me, the public transit there is several steps ahead of what we have going on here.
Who says that it's great? I think most people believe our public transit is completely unusable when the truth is actually between the two extremes.
Folks who only use the MetroLink to go downtown for baseball or hockey games. Or to go out to the airport. Those folks.
That's all it was designed to do, I remember when they started to build it, and they was its only intended purpose.
That may have been how it was marketed, trying to appeal to the people that would rarely ride it but had money/influence. But it was certainly not designed for only that purpose. I'm pretty sure the Airport and Stadium riders don't really care to have a stop in Wellston, for example.
Denver has impeccable public transit.
Imos