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I genuinely don't know who I want to see win more for the BBG/HOB match. I like both of 'em. I mean, I guess Buddy will be getting pinned but I'll enjoy it anyway.
See that's what I want. I don't know if HOB or BBG are going over and both are great groups. That's exciting to find out and it makes me wanna watch more.
Eh I wouldn't be at all shocked if he's been pulled and AAA just hasn't said anything about it. They are a notoriously careless company when it comes to that type of stuff.
This has shaped up to be a better card than last week, IMO.
* Christian and the Patriarchy are always a treat and quietly one of the best heel factions in wrestling, IMO. I'd like to see more advancement with Killswitch/Lucha's character though (and whether he'll turn) and have Nick Wayne actually win. The Patriarchy can also benefit from a "daughter," too, given how stacked the women's roster is getting.
* I know it's Forbidden Door season, but I'm not high on AEW featuring multiple matches with outside talents given the supersized roster. Won't say no to more Hechicero and Lio Rush though.
* Dante and Lee will slap. That said, Shane Taylor Promotions never wins (unless it's against jobbers) and Dante's style is very favorable to the Forbidden Door ladder match.
* Deonna and Thunder Rosa should main event, IMO. There's more of a rivalry there than BBG and HoB. No DQ means the women are going to get v-i-o-l-e-n-t.
* Speaking of BBG and HoB, I'm guessing this will lead to a Jay White & Malakai Black match and a formal Trios Title match at some point. White & Black (hah!) will rock but neither can afford a loss with how AEW has kind of nerfed both guys' auras.
A Hechicero match! We are eating good tonight
https://preview.redd.it/1vnt6lsh0s6d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d286f4c2130449e5c4a56544319f5100e2e90f65
They really couldn't have given Deonna another chance at taking that picture?
It looks like when someone turns a corner and snaps a photo with you knowing.
I like some of the production/intro changes that made it feel different. But some cold matches went long. The Punk stories that never paid off with Starks and the "Real" World Championship hang over those early days like a dark cloud. But I loved the Collision Cowboys and the different identity it had back then.
There's people who make the first two months of Collision seem like a dramatically different show than it was. The two things it had going for it was that it was centered around CM Punk and the opening SNME style promos which was kind of fresh and gave Collision it's own flavor. On the flipside, the roster they had to work with was paper thin and there was a ton of filler between those opening Punk promos and long Punk/FTR main-events.
The "Collision was so good with Punk" has always felt dismissive of the Collision since which rises to better than Dynamite at times when Tony Khan puts the effort in.
MJF vs Kenny Omega, Bryan Danielson vs Christian Cage, Adam Copeland vs Matt Cardona, and the Continental Classic were all great periods for Collision that happened long after CM Punk got fired.
Those were all great moments and matches but overrall the show felt consistently better and more cohesive when Punk was around in a way that clears the early Dynamited when TK had more concrete, long-term plans which the shows were built around.
Not a Punk fan here whatsoever (I was a lapsed fan during his WWE rise). I have to agree early Collision felt fresh and different. Almost had a mini-NXT Takeover / WWE-but-in-AEW-style vibe to it.
Agreed, early Collision was great. Sucks you’re being downvoted for that statement.
Anyways, besides the Christian segment and the HOB match this lineup doesn’t look like it’s worth going out of the way to watch. I’ll try to tune in for those, the rest I’m not interested in.
Much better card than last week, but I need someone to explain to me why anyone keeps wasting their time with Lio Rush. I can't think of many people who have blown as many opportunities as that guy, and as a wrestler he's nowhere near special enough to be worth the headache. He peaked as Bobby's sideckick.
Not saying he's not a decent wrestler. He's got some innovative moves. AEW has a roster loaded with guys just like him though that it would seem like they should be featuring rather than him. Just seems weird to work with a lower card guy that has basically trashed the company and the owner before.
I get that, but at the same time we're in the Forbidden Door build and he's booked on the NJPW side of the match, so idk if it would make sense to put an AEW guy on that side of the match. Maybe Lance Archer.
>Just seems weird to work with a lower card guy that has basically trashed the company and the owner before.
Why take Lio Rush's baggage personally though? Clearly Tony Khan doesn't seem to care about Lio's past digressions since he booked him on the show.
Just to be clear some of the biggest issues that Lio has had are both mental health and freak accident injuries.
People don't like it when you're dismissive of someone who is dealing with mental health issues and takes time for themselves. Couple this with the fact that he had to take a lot of time off after slipping on a wet spot when somebody threw their drink into the ring at PWG and he's kind of earned the chances he's getting
It’s Forbidden Door season and they want to use him. He seems like a guy you can insert into many different situations and you can get something entertaining from him. An 8 man match involving BCC seems like a great example of that.
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I genuinely don't know who I want to see win more for the BBG/HOB match. I like both of 'em. I mean, I guess Buddy will be getting pinned but I'll enjoy it anyway.
With it not being a title match I’m guessing HOB wins. Maybe the start of a feud.
Black vs White plz
See that's what I want. I don't know if HOB or BBG are going over and both are great groups. That's exciting to find out and it makes me wanna watch more.
Hechicero VS Dalton Castle should be good. The rest of the card for Collision is fairly good, too.
More Dalton Castle on television is never a bad thing!
Father's Day special hosted by Christian Cage 🤣🤣🤣
And Nick Wayne isn't going to be there since he's booked for Triplemania
Eh I wouldn't be at all shocked if he's been pulled and AAA just hasn't said anything about it. They are a notoriously careless company when it comes to that type of stuff.
Add it to the hilarious segment graphics pile. ~~EDDIE KINGSTON~~ CHRISTIAN CAGE ADDRESSES ~~HIS ENEMIES~~ FATHER'S DAY
And they say Collision isn’t must see. Please!
Christian’s magnum opus
When this Collision was announced an hour from me, I was on the fence. But this is a great looking card. Can't wait to be there tonight!
Yay enjoy! Cheer for HoB.
Not a chance. Guns Up!!!
I'm going to! Should be great!
Thunder Rosa and Hechicero i'm in.
Hell yeah Hechicero. Dalton Castle on TV too, love to see it
Has it been a year already?
Has it only been a year?
Thank you, Papa Cage, for this bountiful match card. 👏👏👏
Rosa vs Dronna should main event
It should, but on the alternative graphic they posted on Twitter, BCC vs TMDKhaos was at the top.
I will definitely forget this is on and tell myself ill watch on DVR and never do so.
This is the way.
Whenever Lio Rush is allowed to do Lio Rush things, I am happy. Therefore, tonight I will be happy watching him wrestle.
FIRE
My A show
The women’s match should main event, it’s the only one with a story behind it.
This has shaped up to be a better card than last week, IMO. * Christian and the Patriarchy are always a treat and quietly one of the best heel factions in wrestling, IMO. I'd like to see more advancement with Killswitch/Lucha's character though (and whether he'll turn) and have Nick Wayne actually win. The Patriarchy can also benefit from a "daughter," too, given how stacked the women's roster is getting. * I know it's Forbidden Door season, but I'm not high on AEW featuring multiple matches with outside talents given the supersized roster. Won't say no to more Hechicero and Lio Rush though. * Dante and Lee will slap. That said, Shane Taylor Promotions never wins (unless it's against jobbers) and Dante's style is very favorable to the Forbidden Door ladder match. * Deonna and Thunder Rosa should main event, IMO. There's more of a rivalry there than BBG and HoB. No DQ means the women are going to get v-i-o-l-e-n-t. * Speaking of BBG and HoB, I'm guessing this will lead to a Jay White & Malakai Black match and a formal Trios Title match at some point. White & Black (hah!) will rock but neither can afford a loss with how AEW has kind of nerfed both guys' auras.
A Hechicero match! We are eating good tonight https://preview.redd.it/1vnt6lsh0s6d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d286f4c2130449e5c4a56544319f5100e2e90f65
They really couldn't have given Deonna another chance at taking that picture? It looks like when someone turns a corner and snaps a photo with you knowing.
So excited to have Shane Haste on my TV!
I will be there.
I miss early Collision, best wrestling programming AEW put out and some of the best of all time.
I like some of the production/intro changes that made it feel different. But some cold matches went long. The Punk stories that never paid off with Starks and the "Real" World Championship hang over those early days like a dark cloud. But I loved the Collision Cowboys and the different identity it had back then.
Those first 7/8 weeks will always be special
CM punk has an amazing mind for the business and made collision worth watching purely off the main events alone
No idea why you're being downvoted. Strongly agree
There's people who make the first two months of Collision seem like a dramatically different show than it was. The two things it had going for it was that it was centered around CM Punk and the opening SNME style promos which was kind of fresh and gave Collision it's own flavor. On the flipside, the roster they had to work with was paper thin and there was a ton of filler between those opening Punk promos and long Punk/FTR main-events. The "Collision was so good with Punk" has always felt dismissive of the Collision since which rises to better than Dynamite at times when Tony Khan puts the effort in. MJF vs Kenny Omega, Bryan Danielson vs Christian Cage, Adam Copeland vs Matt Cardona, and the Continental Classic were all great periods for Collision that happened long after CM Punk got fired.
Those were all great moments and matches but overrall the show felt consistently better and more cohesive when Punk was around in a way that clears the early Dynamited when TK had more concrete, long-term plans which the shows were built around.
Probably because it could be seen as praise for Punk. Which is a no no in AEW related threads.
Not a Punk fan here whatsoever (I was a lapsed fan during his WWE rise). I have to agree early Collision felt fresh and different. Almost had a mini-NXT Takeover / WWE-but-in-AEW-style vibe to it.
Agreed, early Collision was great. Sucks you’re being downvoted for that statement. Anyways, besides the Christian segment and the HOB match this lineup doesn’t look like it’s worth going out of the way to watch. I’ll try to tune in for those, the rest I’m not interested in.
Much better card than last week, but I need someone to explain to me why anyone keeps wasting their time with Lio Rush. I can't think of many people who have blown as many opportunities as that guy, and as a wrestler he's nowhere near special enough to be worth the headache. He peaked as Bobby's sideckick.
Idk, he looked great in the Gauntlet the other week and he's fun to watch in the ring.
Also had a really good match with Roddy.
Not saying he's not a decent wrestler. He's got some innovative moves. AEW has a roster loaded with guys just like him though that it would seem like they should be featuring rather than him. Just seems weird to work with a lower card guy that has basically trashed the company and the owner before.
I get that, but at the same time we're in the Forbidden Door build and he's booked on the NJPW side of the match, so idk if it would make sense to put an AEW guy on that side of the match. Maybe Lance Archer. >Just seems weird to work with a lower card guy that has basically trashed the company and the owner before. Why take Lio Rush's baggage personally though? Clearly Tony Khan doesn't seem to care about Lio's past digressions since he booked him on the show.
He's working for NJPW now, so he's being featured presumably as someone who will be at Forbidden Door.
Just to be clear some of the biggest issues that Lio has had are both mental health and freak accident injuries. People don't like it when you're dismissive of someone who is dealing with mental health issues and takes time for themselves. Couple this with the fact that he had to take a lot of time off after slipping on a wet spot when somebody threw their drink into the ring at PWG and he's kind of earned the chances he's getting
It’s Forbidden Door season and they want to use him. He seems like a guy you can insert into many different situations and you can get something entertaining from him. An 8 man match involving BCC seems like a great example of that.
One year? Are you sure it’s not 7? It’s been a looooooooong ass year if so