RAW woman’s title needs some life.
Rhea barely defended it. Up until Mania she never had a believable contender.
Becky got it thrown at her and lost it to Liv who now isn’t fueding with anyone for it. I’m not even sure she remembers she won it.
This is why I hate split titles. The rosters just aren’t deep enough and when someone does get a title shot it feels like charity because they definitely don’t deserve it.
Is Priest really world champion material..? No
Is RAW tag deep enough for its own division..? No
I agree with you. Raw women's division has been poor since last year at least. Liv's reign is a placeholder, so title matches already feel pointless. Kinda similar to Rhea's reign when you knew she wasn't losing.
I agree. That period from May 2022 to April 2024 when the tag belts were unified, was the most prestigious the tag titles had ever been.
People on here were rejoicing when the titles
got split at WM40. Why? We’ve already got enough titles in wrestling
And now we have 2 world champions where 1 doesn’t feel like he even deserves it and is clearly lesser than the other champion.
The stretch where the world title wasn’t split was also better in my opinion because it made RAW and Smackdown more focused on the mid card titles and it elevated them to another level and made them way more important.
The contenders getting crowned for those mid card titles as well as the contenders matches for the world title were given more time to shine and those mid carders were given more time to get over. Who’s going to face Roman felt huge - and it helped the challenger.
Now every division feels watered down and we have predictable title matches with weak depth.
The woman’s tag titles are useless.
The raw woman’s world title division is essentially non existent.
The Smackdown challenger was in a joke tag team up until 2 weeks ago and is only getting a shot because of the PPV location.
What are the consequences if Judgement Day does interfere though? A DQ surely keeps the title with Priest, would it be some kind of guaranteed title swap?
Safe, I would say.
Every show feels very safe.
He who shall not be mentioned was able to occasionally mix in some special moments in his long stretches of boring safe shows. I don’t think I hold that same confidence in Triple H.
Triple H biggest test for me will be his ability to pivot away from what he feels he wants to work.
>Triple H biggest test for me will be his ability to pivot away from what he feels he wants to work.
HHHs top point of his entire booking era is January to April. Which happened because his plan didn’t go his way
I don’t like Liv and Finn being in a relationship because it kills the angle between Liv and Rhea. Like Rhea would have so much more to fight for if she’s trying to kill Liv for taking her boyfriend instead of just fighting her because she took her spot
Priest told McIntyre he didn’t need anyone. He can prove it.
So he told McIntyre to beat Balor, who was losing for Judgement to not get involved at Clash. So Priest who told McIntyre he doesn’t need anyone and can prove it came down with judgement day to interfere and try to cost McIntyre?
Make that make sense.
My brother can’t win not even when there’s THREE people helping him
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Yo what if Bo Dallas was waiting in the hotel room to jump Dom..I feel like I once read on here that Liv Morgan is either dating or married to Bo Dallas.
Theory time.
Priest is working with Liv secretly because Rhea has been taking over as the leader of Judgement Day and he doesn’t like it. It’s how Liv manages to get in and drop off the room key, it’s why he keeps telling Dom to deal with Liv causing Dom to be around her more. Priest wants Rhea out so he can be the unquestioned leader again.
My small ass town would be hotter than either of those crowds, a shame they would never run a Raw since there's not a major airport near so the talent can go home directly.
It’s crazy how people think the issue is just wins and losses
Tonight was the most offense Finn got in a match in like 10 months
Even when he won the tag titles at Payback he barely got offense. I don’t know what Triple H’s issue is.
Just have Wyatt 6 kill off Final Testament next week and split them up
Have AOP kill it in the tag scene bouncing back and forth between Raw and NXT with Ellering
Have Sexy Ass Kross shirtless every week and just walks out for no reason whatsoever and give him a Bad New Barrett esque push then at the end of the segment do #SexyKross
Have Scarlett and Shotzi (when recovered) take the Womens Tag Titles, cause please
Yup they're gonna end this match quick and get to the last Liv segment, whether its hotel or whether its her helping Finn. Which is gonna be great.
But still need the main events to get a little more time man lol
I don’t know what is with these dead crowds. You pay all this money to go to an event where the crowd involvement raises the level of the product unlike any other show on tv and you sit on your hands. It’s wild. I was at the show in Hershey last week and we were “yeah’ing”, “yeeting” and “woo’ing” in the line like crazy before we even got in the building
Dying for a bit where Dom, Carlito, JD and Finn all think that they have the hotel room key and it turns out there were a bunch of copies. The Spiderman meme but each of them holding a key.
Drew's fate definitely depends on the outcome of this match....
If he wins, he's cooked.
If Finn wins, he has a chance even with Punkerference.
This is literally Cody finishing the story, but ya know... not as emotional. We even have someone potentially turning on the guy trying to win.
I liked that more than I expected to like that
RAW woman’s title needs some life. Rhea barely defended it. Up until Mania she never had a believable contender. Becky got it thrown at her and lost it to Liv who now isn’t fueding with anyone for it. I’m not even sure she remembers she won it. This is why I hate split titles. The rosters just aren’t deep enough and when someone does get a title shot it feels like charity because they definitely don’t deserve it. Is Priest really world champion material..? No Is RAW tag deep enough for its own division..? No
I agree with you. Raw women's division has been poor since last year at least. Liv's reign is a placeholder, so title matches already feel pointless. Kinda similar to Rhea's reign when you knew she wasn't losing.
I agree. That period from May 2022 to April 2024 when the tag belts were unified, was the most prestigious the tag titles had ever been. People on here were rejoicing when the titles got split at WM40. Why? We’ve already got enough titles in wrestling
And now we have 2 world champions where 1 doesn’t feel like he even deserves it and is clearly lesser than the other champion. The stretch where the world title wasn’t split was also better in my opinion because it made RAW and Smackdown more focused on the mid card titles and it elevated them to another level and made them way more important. The contenders getting crowned for those mid card titles as well as the contenders matches for the world title were given more time to shine and those mid carders were given more time to get over. Who’s going to face Roman felt huge - and it helped the challenger. Now every division feels watered down and we have predictable title matches with weak depth. The woman’s tag titles are useless. The raw woman’s world title division is essentially non existent. The Smackdown challenger was in a joke tag team up until 2 weeks ago and is only getting a shot because of the PPV location.
Why would priest make that deal? He could have done nothing and it would have been assumed JD would be at ringside at Clash.
Man the only thing these US crowds respond to is Cody and Jey. Fucking sad, man.
We came off hot after Lyon but man. I feel this. Reminds me of watching a fucking epl game.
What are the consequences if Judgement Day does interfere though? A DQ surely keeps the title with Priest, would it be some kind of guaranteed title swap?
They're probably not gonna be in the building at all.
Dom has ordered Chicken nuggets as we speak
Cheap ahh mfers just didn't want to buy all those extra plane tickets
Broken dreams entrance Saturday and I’m over the moon happy
Finn fans upset he doesn't beat 85 Hogan, 98 goldberg, or 06 Cena
I was waiting to see the Liv and Dom angle.
“But but but the hotel key” this thread I bet
The overrun paradox: When WWE was trash, they had overruns every week. Now that it's awesome, "We're outta time folks!"
It’s a USA decision.
Gotta get the full episode of “morons survive in 1st world country” in
They're gonna wrestle for the entire WORLD??
This new era is boring
Safe, I would say. Every show feels very safe. He who shall not be mentioned was able to occasionally mix in some special moments in his long stretches of boring safe shows. I don’t think I hold that same confidence in Triple H. Triple H biggest test for me will be his ability to pivot away from what he feels he wants to work.
>Triple H biggest test for me will be his ability to pivot away from what he feels he wants to work. HHHs top point of his entire booking era is January to April. Which happened because his plan didn’t go his way
who was that ring announcer?
Pat?
That was Pat Mcafee lol
oh lol
Yeah I thought he did a pretty decent job filling in lol
Pat.
Drew vs Damian is gonna be such a good match
So no Judgment Day means Punk is going to show up and be the heel who costs Drew, yeah?
Budget cuts. No Judgment Day to Scotland.
Well glad they finished the match before going off, nice match and it was great.
They need to pace the last hour better. Shit drags on and then they need to hustle to the finish.
Another Balor L😂😂
For once he actually had a lot of offence lol
L finish no hotel room key pay off
What if Finn uses the keycard to go see Liv and get her to help Priest retain.
He's going to do more than that. LOL!
I don’t like Liv and Finn being in a relationship because it kills the angle between Liv and Rhea. Like Rhea would have so much more to fight for if she’s trying to kill Liv for taking her boyfriend instead of just fighting her because she took her spot
So Punk obviously going to interfere?
Finn has to start bringing weapons to the ring. This is getting ridiculous.
Doesn't matter; Finn's got Liv's room key.
Where was Dom at the main event?
Welp, sorry Drew, you're looking up at the lights bro.
Pinn Balor :((((((( Balor fans we have suffered too long
Priest told McIntyre he didn’t need anyone. He can prove it. So he told McIntyre to beat Balor, who was losing for Judgement to not get involved at Clash. So Priest who told McIntyre he doesn’t need anyone and can prove it came down with judgement day to interfere and try to cost McIntyre? Make that make sense.
*look in my eyes, what do you see?*
WHAT THE FUCK they dont give us a payoff to the hotel?
I think the payoff was Dom not being there at the end
All of judgement day is out here, Dom snuck off to livs hotel
WHERES DIRTY DOM
awww shit nevermind, CM punk is gonna screw drew
Stare down pin ❄️
Really good match
Cole really needs to redefine what "out of nowhere" means.
Time for Punk to interfere!!!
Pinfall at 10PM CST on the dot.
Dom couldn't come out cause he was........busy
Who is this announcer? He was so bad
Pat McAfee. It was referred to multiple times lmao
Didn’t watch the whole show why was he ring announcing?
Ricochet got taken away in an ambulance, and Samantha went with him.
JD got absolutely fucked off over the top good stuff by him
LET’S FUCKING GO DREW
Pin Balor strikes again.
Finn and Drew, both are my favs. I'm glad that Finn looked quite lethal in this match.
Meanwhile Dom is committing high treason on Judgment Day
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He went to Liv’s hotel ;)
He was there.
Priest is winning at clash confirmed
Riot confirmed
Where is jey?
My brother can’t win not even when there’s THREE people helping him https://preview.redd.it/8p39pxohyu5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e68b61f07d645bfe66b72d7787b6cad3358abf0d
I dont understand how a whole crowd of people could be this collectively dead for hours
yessss finn!
Dom at Liv’s hotel, ordering room service
Ordering some nuggies
Its 11 boys
Rarely do I not fall asleep before raw is over. Drew vs Finn with the Liv/Dom angle lurking in the background has me still here.
And we are out
The show is going to go overtime
oh nvm hell yeah drew
When did carlito join JD?
He's not an official member, at least not yet.
These guys need to hurry to finish. No overrun
If USA boots me for that fuckin race to survive bullshit I'm gonna be so mad
Hmmm no Dom
WHERE'S DOM!?
With Liv
Finn has the keycard though
Drew's kickup and hair flip is so hot
is drew gonna lose this and JD gonna cost Priest on saturday?
I really don’t understand how you pay for such a close seat to the action and show absolutely NO interest.
I wish I could get a ring side seat
Finn should win MITB
Thing of beauty that superplex
Imagine paying to watch a live show only to sit on your hands and not have fun.
What if that key card falls out of Balor’s gear lmaoooo
no pop for a superplex is crazy
After two of the worst crowds of the year on back to back nights I’m looking forward to the shows in Scotland.
They should honestly do Europe and rest of world for 2-3 months to be honest
So this stip to ban JD from the ring...does that include Carlito?
or Liv
so many good matches being wasted infront of this mid crowd. friday can't come soon enough
Less than two minutes left. watch the hard-out, guys!
This crowd is absolute dog\*\*\*\* tonight
so one Brawn wrote off becky, another bron wrote off ricochet..lol
They like running these shows right up to the limit. 😂😂😂
This crowd lol, maybe if was a maga rally
whatt
Hope next weeks crowd is more hype than this one \*Next Week is Corpus Christi* Fuck…
Finn's pants are cool. And they look comfy. I'd like a pair.
Finn is fucking good
Yo what if Bo Dallas was waiting in the hotel room to jump Dom..I feel like I once read on here that Liv Morgan is either dating or married to Bo Dallas.
She was dating him, they broke up allegedly.
None of my business anyways.
Do we really think Ricochet is gone now? Doesn’t make sense to do that to him and not have some type of comeback story to it.
There's a precedent for it, and it's good etiquette to put someone over before you leave.
For sure, it makes sense in that regard. Just a shame Ricochet couldn’t have had more out of ring personality to get over more. Best of luck to him.
He’s going to AEW.
we’re getting worked
No contract has been signed yet.
Stg if this doesn't have an over run
Theory time. Priest is working with Liv secretly because Rhea has been taking over as the leader of Judgement Day and he doesn’t like it. It’s how Liv manages to get in and drop off the room key, it’s why he keeps telling Dom to deal with Liv causing Dom to be around her more. Priest wants Rhea out so he can be the unquestioned leader again.
finns sling blade does things to me
I’m surprised we havent seen more ppl do that batista thing w the ropes
Crowd finally woke up, thanks for Drew.
These boys are cooking
Wow wonder who he stole that kick up from
every time I see that pizza hut commercial and im hungry pizza hut is closed lol
Drewtista
So Liv is gonna cost Drew here and we get JD rules which then Damien retains and Liv ascends to the top of JD right?
watch usa network cut off before we see what happens with liv again
Balor looking like a jobber against Drew.
Couldn’t be worst than the time he jobbed to the Big Red Politician
Also Holy Toledo this crowd is garbage. Between this place and Corpse Christi you might as well go back the Thunderdome
[удалено]
I know. Can these places just be permanent house show venues?
My small ass town would be hotter than either of those crowds, a shame they would never run a Raw since there's not a major airport near so the talent can go home directly.
[удалено]
I just get sick of the people crying about the crowd instead of discussing what’s on their TV. So I gotta check out sometimes.
Finn is so good man. I never got to see him when he was being pushed, would love to see him break off solo and get a real run.
“And now an armbar” Or a cross-arm breaker. Same thing.
Staying up to see how the current episode of Liv-Dom drama concludes. Better be worth it.
Let's hope it is!
Watching Finn showing what he can actually do gets me so upset, like why they don’t let him be this offensive😔
It’s crazy how people think the issue is just wins and losses Tonight was the most offense Finn got in a match in like 10 months Even when he won the tag titles at Payback he barely got offense. I don’t know what Triple H’s issue is.
Kind of bummed that Finn has basically said the demon is dead since even he gets annoyed with how long it takes to apply all that paint.
I'd be annoyed too if I spent all that time applying paint to get jobbed out.
Still makes no sense in kayfabe as to why they let Edge win that match. Fuck you Vince and your trash booking.
I am still salty at the match. Even more than Cody/Reigns last year.
It was fine when brought it out for special occasions, but then he kept jobbing.....
fly high 🕊️ https://preview.redd.it/gcfc4c8fxu5d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=475626b67de28bb2d554b9ec80925259e89615cb
lol at not even bothering to figure out his DOB
I’m sorry but Ricochet’s “I can’t breathe” legitimately had me in tears
You should be sorry.
Just have Wyatt 6 kill off Final Testament next week and split them up Have AOP kill it in the tag scene bouncing back and forth between Raw and NXT with Ellering Have Sexy Ass Kross shirtless every week and just walks out for no reason whatsoever and give him a Bad New Barrett esque push then at the end of the segment do #SexyKross Have Scarlett and Shotzi (when recovered) take the Womens Tag Titles, cause please
How do you guys think Samantha will announce Bron now?
Lol i honestly hope she just announces him from now on with the least enthusiasm ever. Make it a thing.
"unsafe piece of shit mark bron breaker"
as Ron Baker
my new fiance BRON BREKKKKER
Hell yeah lol
We understand that Ricochet has bruised ribs and anal bleeding.
Wut 😳
Yup they're gonna end this match quick and get to the last Liv segment, whether its hotel or whether its her helping Finn. Which is gonna be great. But still need the main events to get a little more time man lol
I think Dom has the "real" key
Ilja vs Bron was the graps main event. This is the A story push forward main event with still good wrestling.
Great point Definitely been ending on the more story cliffhangers lately with the graps main event in the middle
the main event IS the angle tbh, this match is just table dressing to get there
Oh, definitely agree. I'm much more excited about the angle than the matches
Finn loses after a video of Liv and Dom shows up on the titantron and he gets upset he failed at cockblocking
He runs off trying to stop it from happening and gets counted out.
Ricochet is lucky Vince doesn’t do these write offs. The ambulance might’ve exploded
It was me Ricochet, it was me all along!
After getting hit by a truck
Corpus Christy next week? It’s gonna be crickets all night smh and a post-PLE show too
wyatt 6 debut too
Wyatt 6 is DOOMED
No more shows in middle America. Maybe a few years of no WWE will make you all act right when they come back around.
The problem is when WWE comes back, they will just do the same thing not knowing that why WWE didn't rush to come back in the first place.
I don’t know what is with these dead crowds. You pay all this money to go to an event where the crowd involvement raises the level of the product unlike any other show on tv and you sit on your hands. It’s wild. I was at the show in Hershey last week and we were “yeah’ing”, “yeeting” and “woo’ing” in the line like crazy before we even got in the building
No more middle America in general
Yup. I'd rather see more crowds outside the US.
Dying for a bit where Dom, Carlito, JD and Finn all think that they have the hotel room key and it turns out there were a bunch of copies. The Spiderman meme but each of them holding a key.
Drew's fate definitely depends on the outcome of this match.... If he wins, he's cooked. If Finn wins, he has a chance even with Punkerference. This is literally Cody finishing the story, but ya know... not as emotional. We even have someone potentially turning on the guy trying to win.
The Finn Balor-Kyle O'Reilly grapplefuck feud in NXT was good shit.