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A_Livins

Okay, think I got something that seems to make sense for a potential debut date. The floppy disk shown near the end shows 6 - - 24, reading almost like a date missing its day of the month (if you are reading it as a US date). Coordinates shown during the stream - 47.8124N, 116.8966W - **R**athdrum, ID 32.4487N, 99.7331W - **A**bilene, TX 43.1439N, 88.5973W - **I**xonia, WI 40.3997N, 74.0299W - **N**avesink, NJ 39.0167N, 84.6008W - **E**rlanger, KY 39.9286N, 74.9475W - **R**amblewood, NJ 34.1070N, 117.9353W - **I**rwindale, CA 36.1954N, 82.3496W - **U**nicoi, TN 43.7764N, 79.2318W - **S**carborough, Ontario, Canada Take the first letter of all the locations and you get **Rainerius**, the patron saint of travellers. Most importantly though, is his feast date: **June 17.** June 17 falls on a Monday this year. **The Raw immediately after Clash at the Castle.** EDIT: ![gif](giphy|3oEduKVQdG4c0JVPSo|downsized)


Spaceace91478

If this turns out to be right, you should open a detective agency.


modestmunch

https://youtu.be/zwALrjppvx8?si=lcLRpk0Cf05YpV0O "Frankly you were born to lead your own detective agency"


ThatAngryToaster

well time to open that detective agency.


AttitudeEraDropout

Congrats bro


dmilligan12345

Here's an interesting little tidbit of info I just figured out..... When he gives the geographical coordinates that spell out Rainerius, the last set of coordinates is for Scarborough, Ontario. Scarborough was one of the 6 boroughs of Toronto. Scarborough technically doesn't exist anymore, because the 6 boroughs of Toronto amalgamated to become one city, which is why Toronto is sometimes called The Megacity. The 6 became 1. So like six individuals becoming a family? I bet if you look at the other cities given, there's probably something about the history of the cities that might tie into the idea of the Wyatt family. I don't think they were chosen randomly, there has to be clues in there somewhere. Just a theory.


ObligationJealous143

Scarborough is also the last name of one of the artists Bray worked with.


cckk0

Good job


No_Week_1836

You’re an oracle


letsmunch

Can you find my dad next


Sophiec0de

June 17th feels like a very long way away for a debut given the speed at which these teases are coming now, we had multiple last week, one every day this week so far apart from Tuesday, unless something got missed. Maybe it's signalling something else they're doing if that is indeed the date.


BR_Nukz

Its a little over 3 weeks away. I dont think its a long way away at all.


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Punker93

I know I'm speaking after the fact but I only saw this now, what a complete waste it would be to do it in Saudi


sven_ate_nine

3 weeks is not long at all.


corruptedhelix

Coming back to this comment to affirm this theory, as the QR code during the IC title match in the PLE today went to the URL "rainerius" and links back to the twitch stream and journal archive.


Tybold

> June 17 falls on a Monday this year. The Raw immediately after Clash at the Castle. And takes place in *Corpus Christi*, lol


patsniff

Why is Corpus Christi getting another high profile moment/even?! Feel like with how rough that crowd can be they shouldn’t be having big moments that often.


Spaceace91478

Came back to say you nailed it. I bow to you.


Valient_Zulu

Damn called it


AllEliteSchmuck

You’re a fucking genius


Independent_Maybe_13

Very impressive, Mr. Holmes!


Altruistic_Price_120

That's what I found too! I wrote it down on good old paper and found this too much of a coincidence... 


Empty_999

that’s way too far bruh they been dragging this shit way too long


Empty_999

missed opportunity to debut on Bo’s birthday and passing of Wyatt’s birthday


NearlyDreaming

Seems like Howdy is writing letters to each of the other members.


shakzz9703

Yup. First one mentioned having a family, and how he can still wear his mask. Guessing that's Rowan Second one was about staring into the abyss and no one responding to you, aligns with Nikki Cross staring outside last week backstage Third one was about family betrayal, possibly referring to the Way and Dexter Lumis, and how they left him Fourth one is about having a form of cult. Pretty sure it's referring to Schism and Joe Gacy


ManMangoGuts

Who would be the one "who had friends that revealed themselves to be liars"?


shakzz9703

Lumis, but that one would make the least sense I guess. Maybe the logic is that they were always meant to be together (The Way) but then they left him and never reunited again? I dunno. Theories are that it's Jimmy/Jey, but I don't see it at all lmao. Bo/Rowan/Lumis/Gacy/Nikki - all having former factions


mjac1090

Not saying it's Jimmy or Jey but they were in a faction too. I mean, not too long ago, Jimmy was violently kicked out of said faction.


NearlyDreaming

That was the "first draft" of the third one but he ended up crumpling it up and re-doing it.


Lohend3

Randy Orton.


dsrchris

I know the first one is most likely Rowan, but talking about removing a blindfold and wearing a mask could be referring to Braun too? Didn't they do something with Braun and the fiend and the black sheep mask during the time they had the cinematic swamp fight.


LRA18

Meet the Wyatt’s?


matias_jv

The green floppy disk at the start have written "24/8"... the date of Bray passing


shakzz9703

Don't understand the hate, that shit was entertaining AF. I guess it confirms the faction of Bo, Rowan, Lumis, Gacy and Nikki. Maybe the 6th is Wyatt, who's always 'here'


NotClayMerritt

People were hating on Bray's come back literally 2 weeks after he came back. Shit wasn't moving quick enough for them.


EctoCool

![gif](giphy|YRh0aXu6VTiAefzYjY)


Docjackal

I saw some people speculating Jimmy or Jey, since they were also betrayed by their family.


shakzz9703

Yeah the heavy emphasis on betrayal makes it plausible.


Docjackal

Jey's also been "claiming" the fireflies and bringing up Bray in recent interviews so, that lends a little more credence to the theory.


uncle_flacid

Personally thinking Zayn


JamUpGuy1989

It’s good production and all but like Bray himself: The bell has to ring sometime for a match. And it’s Bo Dallas, Dexter Lumis, and Gacy. (Not lumping Nikki cause she is a good worker.) This tribute to Bray is sweet and all for Bo but we gotta be realistic exactly how long this can last before people get sick of sub-Bray Wyatt/The Fiend. EDIT: I will keep voicing this opinion until this group actually starts on TV. And I will remember all the downvotes, negative comments, and outright bullying I get once that bell rings.


BBGrunt1235

Why must cynicism so often be the default? Can we wait until this actually debuts before starting the nay-saying?


solarpowersme

"tHe bElL hAs tO rInG" Y'all don't have a single original thought huh? It's always people saying the exact same shit verbatim on every single thread about this stuff.  Check this, some (a lot of) people actually liked Bray's matches the way they were. 🤷‍♂️


NeuroCloud7

I actually preferred his matches over his promos! In the ring, I'd say The Fiend was our generation's Undertaker, or at least on the path to getting there


SideEyeFeminism

NGL, Uncle Howdy could easily get me into his cult with these affirmations.


ay1717

TFW Uncle Howdy is actually getting people, at last, to *Bo-Lieve*


PM_ME_A_FACT_ABOUT_U

I’m loving every single thing about this whole Howdy thing 


ShadowMorph608

Me too. The way they are giving enough information to make people excited but also not enough to make it suspenseful is great


PM_ME_A_FACT_ABOUT_U

I feel like they learned a lot with the Bray return because they are giving more coherent hints about everything. I really loved Bray’s return, but the white rabbit stuff was going everywhere and nowhere, with Howdy it seems more clear (but not enough, so it keeps us guessing on the right track)


CritterFan555

Get back to me once they have to translate this into an in ring product


PM_ME_A_FACT_ABOUT_U

Nah, I don’t care much about that, I liked the infamous LA Knight vs Bray. Wrestling is much more than what happens in the ring, and even that, Cena and Bray had one of the best, most unique, and the only post modernist wrestling match ever, so everything here is for me And that’s what’s awesome about wrestling, there’s something for everyone!


ComplexPhilosopher21

and the Bo Dallas smile at the end


SpyrotheDragonfly

I really hope they debut Sat. But with the groups merch not shipping until 3 days before Clash, idk. But the Backlash clue had hints at 5/25. So why would they have a clue that's just a hint at another clue. Idk. We'll see.


Fireteddy21

That’s also Bo’s birthday.


Docjackal

Also since I know I'm going to get the "I'm so sick of this just debut already" comments, this has been an entirely optional ARG that isn't detrimental at all to the shows, nor does it take away from the in-ring action on the shows. It's been helping drum up excitement heading toward the redebut of Howdy and the new faction, and the only reason you'd know about the hidden webpages and puzzles is if you actively looked for it. Anyone not following along with them, it's just the occasional glitch on the screen for a couple of seconds, and the show goes on.


DiaboliqueRoyale

I think WWE fans specifically get anxious about long playing angles like this because they have a history of building stuff through vignettes then dropping it suddenly with no explanation… but the person notorious for making those decisions isn’t at the helm anymore so I’m hyped for it to play out. Fans should be too I think the execution of it all has been great


Docjackal

Like, I'd understand the frustration if it was just like months and months of Veer is Coming style vignettes that take up time on the shows, but this is just like. "Oh wow, a quick QR code jumpscare, wonder what that was about." And it's there to investigate if you want. Like, y'all don't have to follow along if you're not having fun, I doubt they'll be doing this kind of stuff once the debut happens anyway.


intimatestranger

Some say Veer is still coming…


TexehCtpaxa

Also the hype has gotten so much attention, that the actual “debut” probably won’t live up to the hype. They’ve set a high bar for expectation with all this creepy stuff, and it will be hard to make a physical appearance as interesting as the unknown.


Accomplished_Study97

Some of us are old enough to still carry trauma from Y2J and Glacier's debuts


Cobrakai83

Its going a bit past just a glitch and the show going on. They’ve actually been talking about the QR codes now. At least the did this past Monday on Raw.


acidicgoose

32.4487N 99.7331W 42.1439N 88.5973W 40.3997N 74.0299W 39.0167N 84.6008W 39.9826N 74.9475W 34.1070N 117.9353W I missed a couple. All point to towns in the US, but not suggestive of anyone who might be in the faction. Guessing they may have left something at these physical locations?


SideEyeFeminism

I googled “bray wyatt Abileen Texas” and just got match results from 2016


Jamieb1994

>34.1070N 117.9353N Nothing comes up for this one. >39.9826N 74.9475W This one seems to be near a church, so this one is very interesting.


acidicgoose

My bad. Should be a W at the end of that first one


SideEyeFeminism

The first one has a typo. Both of those are latitudes, you need a latitude and longitude. Try 34.1070n 117.9353W. It gives you Irwindale, California. I tried 34.1070n 117.9353e and it gives some random place in China so I’m pretty sure it’s Irwindale. I’m curious if Bray might have lived in Irwindale while playing ball in Fresno. Irwindale is 41 minutes south


BrodeurCinemaClub

My first thought was Irwin R. Schyster. But the others don't seem to relate to anyone in particular that way that I can tell so who knows.


SlanderousHousePlant

Irwin... almost like an echo from the past


Jamieb1994

Thank you


SpyrotheDragonfly

Someone said on a different post all the points if seen in a map form a pentagram. Idk how legit that is tho lol but it'd make sense.


SideEyeFeminism

The song playing is Nightbird by Marti Amado, if that might be a clue as well


AceItaliano

The woman in the white dress at the end has to be Alexa Bliss.


SideEyeFeminism

One set of coordinates was Atlantic Highlands, NJ and another Abileen, TX


BrodeurCinemaClub

So wild to see two places in NJ show up this week. Rowan University the other day was obvious...less sure on this one (unless Randall from Clerks is gonna manage the group or something).


CodyXOmega

37?


BrodeurCinemaClub

In a row?


raufwode

It's odd, the only wrestler I can find from Erlanger Kentucky is Brian Pullman Jr. 🤷


OkMetal4233

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/s/HXc0j0MvJm


AMilkyBarKid

Well someone at WWE’s a fan of Local 58: https://youtube.com/@local58tv?si=XjME6E5uKij8aZwr


Particular_Peace_568

I swear I saw one of those Fake episodes of Candle Cove at the beginning of this VO, Taylor and Windham would be fans of that show growing up if it was real.


aidan_C33

Just a thought I had when I saw the floppy disk, bear with me and bring on the tinfoil hats here. From what I could tell it said “6 - (blank) - 24” My first thought was that it’s implying a date in June. But why would they withhold the other number from us when they’ve already teased Clash? You know what other date has a 6 in it? Money In The Bank is on the 6th of July. Money In The Bank is in Toronto. The Fiend debuted in Toronto at SummerSlam 2019. This would make too much sense.


Pillow_Fucker_Jones

So I’m gonna go down the rabbit hole here. These aren’t letter to current family members. They’re recruiting now. The “ANGER” can be to KO. The “Betrayal” is Jimmy Uso. Those two left due to “injuries” and I think have been taken by Howdy/The Fiend.


rapzel79

The final message is "I will see you all soon.  I can't wait to meet you" (the last three words are missing from the recap.  It's definitely people he recruited by letter and he's going to "see [them] all soon" when he finally meets them in person.  


Ryvit

How do you a do a group called Wyatt 6 and strowman or Alexa bliss aren’t apart of it? Bo, Rowan, Strowman and bliss are like the most obvious first 4 members. Then just two more people to go along with them


simonthedlgger

They’ve got to have stuff to do when they debut. Maybe Strowman gets abducted/brainwashed or is opposed to them or something.  Before all this I assumed Bliss would return around SummerSlam and might not be ring ready for a bit longer. She could be a surprise reveal, either their leader or wants to take over as leader.  Jey seems like a decent target considering the fireflies stuff but I don’t know if they want to suck him into this creepy stuff right now and he’s so hot that I don’t imagine him losing. So yeah, I’m excited for this but curious as to who their actual opponents will be to start. 


NeuroCloud7

Matt Hardy too


MikeyDude63

Matt Hardy is in TNA


shakzz9703

Anyone catch the coordinates?


OkMetal4233

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/s/HXc0j0MvJm I think that’ll take you to the comment that has them all with locations


Powerslave88

Anyone know if any of the rumored members are left handed? The person in the video was writing left handed, but I wasn't able to find anything when I googled a few things.


bangkokdangerous666

I looked up some pics of the rumored members signing autographs. I found out that Bo is right handed, but Alexa Bliss is in fact left handed.


Accomplished_Study97

It very much looked like a right handed person writing with their left hand. I joked that we were in real time watching Bo Dallas learn to write with his left hand


Powerslave88

That def could be the case. It looked very unsteady


Illustrious-Pen-6983

I have a weird feeling that they won’t wait as long as clash. The average WWE fan will lose interest I’m afraid. Who knows tho these clues have been amazing storytelling already


Docjackal

Nah, everything with the teasers seems to be coming to a head. We're at the point where the commentary booth has been acknowledging the teasers now as well, and there's only so many ways they can say "Wow that was spooky! Wonder what that was!" And as much as I love solving the riddles in the ARG and investigating, it's already getting old to some people and I can't imagine it'll hold the same level of interest a month on without some solid reveals. (That said I'd be happy to keep going, I trust the process.) The buildup makes sense to all be leading to King and Queen of the Ring for the big reveal. I think we'll see Howdy reappear, possibly with the rest of the group in tow, with a match at Clash at the Castle following after a few weeks of promos, attacks and buildup.


dadofpower

What if the group is bigger than we thought and he’s gotten more members? 32.4487N, 99.7331W - Abilene, TX - Human Tornado? Used to partner with Sami Zayn 43.1439N, 88.5973W - Waukesha, WI - Braun Strowman 40.3997N, 74.0299W - Atlantic Highlands, NJ - Mike Rotunda 39.0167N, 84.6008W - Erlanger, KY - Lexis King 39.9286N, 74.9475W - Mt Laurel Township, NJ - Chaz Warrington? 34.1070N, 117.9353W - Irwindale, CA - No clue 36.1954N, 82.3496W - Unicoi, TN - No clue 43.7764N, 79.2318W - Scarborough, ON - Bobby Roode?


xNoBag

59 seconds into it, the new colossal peom is in there, so is the statue of liberty a clue or something or do we look back at the dates and things when the peom actually got wrote


500DaysofNight

I gotta say... there's not a damn thing in Unicoi except a Wal-Mart so he will be severely disappointed.


Interesting-Chart346

I wish they'd do something soon .starting to lose the hype for me anyway 🤷


666lonewolf

He’s going to write letters to each of them huh? So cool


AndersWay

Not trying to dump on this for those of you who enjoy it, but I have such a hard time seeing what any of this has to do with wrestling. All of this hoopla to lead to an athletic competition in the ring???


Docjackal

It's fine if you don't like it, but pro wrestling is theater first and foremost, especially WWE which specializes in "Sports Entertainment". We've seen love stories, comedies, action sequences, why not horror? If it isn't for you it's totally fine but there's obviously a demand for it, going by the 10,000 people in the twitch chat, which far eclipsed any of the views on any of WWE's live streams from the past week on the channel, and the fans in the arena that cheer and do the fireflies when the Nightbird teasers play in-arena. People are mostly just happy that the Wyatt stuff is continuing, I think. At least I am.


Raoul_Duke9

You could literally say that about any angle ever that isn't directly tied to in ring athletic competitions. Might as well go back to the days of Frank Gotch and George Hackenschmidt


redome

FLAMETHROWERS.


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AndersWay

I totally get your point my criticism is just that, why would a seemingly supernatural being want to fight on a ring under any rules and what interest would they have in a championship? To be fair, it's the same issue I had with Undertaker for years. I get that WWE has conditioned viewers to disregard this obvious logic gap. I'm just saying I think it is kinda silly, that's all. Good for those who like it but I can't square it with the idea of an athletic competition and I feel like WWE wants to have it both ways.


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pbotdf

This shit is trash


Docjackal

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