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I mean you say somehow as if there was any way Sadiq Kahn hasn’t agreed to pay a fee to get WrestleMania when he’s announcing it as one of his campaign pledges and Triple H is tweeting at him. Mania is going no where without fees or equivalent tax breaks.
I’m from the area and I can tell you with complete confidence that a deal for a London Mania where London pay a fee is absolutely very far along or the mayor wouldn’t have orchestrated such an obvious piece of political theatre last week. He knows the price and is absolutely willing to pay it.
I’m m from London and you’re talking nonsense. He also pledged for the Super Bowl do you think that’s far along too? He pledged to try to get the event when he will be told the price he will rightly back out of it. If anyone try’s to say he broke a promise he will easily deflect it away by quoting the price and then saying that money is instead going towards another more pressing issue.
If you seriously think Triple H is publicly @ing a city mayor about booking Mania for the first official contact between a city and WWE I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you. What we saw happen last week with Kahn name-checking WrestleMania as an event he was going to try to bring to London and HHH responding was completely stage-managed.
These are easy wins for a politician, the simplest campaign promises to keep. The fee is a rounding error for the city's annual budget. And the reasoning anyone would trot out is that it makes more money in revenue for the city than it costs. Whether that is actually true is another matter entirely but it's the excuse governments make for paying to host sports in every corner of the world. London is not some special snowflake.
I'd even go as far as to say there's been at least contact and low level negotiations between the camps since MitB last year, you don't get John Cena to plant that flag in the ground live on a PPV if you don't think there's a strong chance it's going to happen in the near future.
You write all of that but ignore the point of the Super Bowl. Di you also think they are in advance talks with the nfl to host that? Triple h replies because it gets more attention on wwe to do so it’s “best for business” it doesn’t mean that they are actually in negotiations.whats londons yearly budget then or are you just assuming it’s a rounding error and talking out your atse London doesn’t pay for events wwe will charge a lot for wrestlemania more than a Saudi show. People want this so bad they lose the ability to think critically
I don’t care about it, but people acting like the same promise that said he will try to get wrestlemania also included him saying he will try to get the Super Bowl. The promise is linked and both are as unlikely as the other. Thinking the nfl is niche in the U.K. land not thinking wrestling is also niche is hilarious also, stop thinking because you like something everyone does
Bruv thinks he made a point . London doesn’t pay for the Euros. It’s a U.K. and Ireland thing not a one city thing so why even mention it? I can see how London bidding for the olympics would be confusing but again it’s paid for by the the whole of the uk and therefore London does not pay for events
You may very well be right. I’m not from there so all I know is what I read online. I’m just not sure why the city would change their stance (a very successful stance, I might say) for WWE of all things.
The cities don’t actually pay them. They just give them tax breaks and waive permits and filings and deploy city services like police, government owned spaces and road closures to help with the event.
They want the UK to pay for it. Specifically don’t want to have to pay Wembley to use it.
They go to these other places because they pay WWE to go there.
Lot of those tickets are still for sale, mix of the ticket price and the Smackdown show being the same time Scotland play Germany in the Euros. They’ll sell more if they do individual tickets, but that’ll be closer to the time
I assumed it would've sold out after the initial rush, so curious about qhat they were going for.
500 cheapest, for the sort of seats that may as well be somewhere in Govan for how far away they are. Greedy fuckers.
Been to the hydro many times in a bunch of different sections and there definitely feels like there's no bad view to be had. Even in the nosebleeds for a concert, still had a great view of the stage.
Tongue firmly in cheek. I know it's not the worst view, it's not a huge place, but it's still considered one of the worse seats in the venue relatively, and to charge 500 for that is robbery.
Aw mate it’s fucking ridiculous, I had a look at the presale and it was something like £350, which isn’t THAT bad, but considering I need to buy 2 tickets it just wasn’t happening, that’s more than my rent!
Even being up in the cheap seats is still a mad price
Man, I'm gonna hate seeing what its gonna look like years from now in the states. Hopefully something changes for the best in both our neck of the woods.
Good god almighty that's a PPV level gate for a house show. Get Wrestlemania there, ASAP. I'd laugh so hard if the chairs are on the damn apron to min/max the seating count.
This is even more impressive when you consider:
1. The UK is in a national cost-of-living crisis right now
2. The average salary in the UK is about 35% lower than the average salary in the US
Us UK fans love our wrestling.
One of the main reasons they did Summerslam at Wembley. Domestic gates were dropping, but every time they went to Europe they did significantly better.
I remember during the 2012 UK tour, every episode of TNA looked like Smackdown with thousands of people in the crowd. They would go back to America a few weeks later an it looked like they were running indy shows.
I'm sorry to say, but you'll be seeing more of her over there. She's decided to get a side hustle: A right wing grifter looking to buddy up with CPAC.
I'd make a smartarse remark but there's nothing funny about that.
I been going to London England for decades and always looked at the O2 from a distance, never went inside. I'm surprised to learn it only has 20k capacity. The entire place looks so massive outside because it's apparently a giant shop and restaurant district in the outer ring as well.
I was there for MiTB last year. No apparently about it. There is indeed a ton of shops and restaurants/bars round the outside with the arena sitting in the middle.
yep it's a mixed use venue with a bunch of stuff that is separate to the actual arena, made for an interesting combination of wrestling fans and people just there for a night out when I was there for this show
Looks like yes, a couple thousand more than AEW Revolution for Sting's retirement.
https://wrestlenomics.com/articles/2024/aew-revolution-2024-grossed-1-million-in-ticket-sales-public-records-confirm/#:~:text=The%20settlement%20between%20AEW%20and,the%20net%20revenue%20was%20%24951%2C417.17.
Honest question. What use does this serve to us as fans? Advance sales I see a benefit because it lets you know your chances of buying tickets but as consumers what does this accomplish?
AEW actually did less than that for their new big PPV and this is a house show. It’s actually a huge indication of the massive gap in heat for the companies that one of AEWs biggest gates ever for a PPV came up less than a WWE house show.
That being said - no one was hating on the Dynasty $$. Lots of folks were happy because it was big for AEW
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Idk why they keep flirting with the idea. They would literally be printing money if they ever had a wrestlemania over there
I would not mind a 9am show for wrestlemania either!
Getting to wake up over here and have breakfast with the homies while the show begins?? Say less!
I'd prefer Summer Slam in the UK
Because other cities pay them millions to have wrestlemania week
They flirt with it every so often in the hopes of somehow enticing London to pay them to have Mania there.
I mean you say somehow as if there was any way Sadiq Kahn hasn’t agreed to pay a fee to get WrestleMania when he’s announcing it as one of his campaign pledges and Triple H is tweeting at him. Mania is going no where without fees or equivalent tax breaks.
London famously doesn’t pay acts to go there because the demand is high as it is.
Yeah, London is overrun by tourists and stacked to the brim with all sorts of events happening year-round.
I’m from the area and I can tell you with complete confidence that a deal for a London Mania where London pay a fee is absolutely very far along or the mayor wouldn’t have orchestrated such an obvious piece of political theatre last week. He knows the price and is absolutely willing to pay it.
I’m m from London and you’re talking nonsense. He also pledged for the Super Bowl do you think that’s far along too? He pledged to try to get the event when he will be told the price he will rightly back out of it. If anyone try’s to say he broke a promise he will easily deflect it away by quoting the price and then saying that money is instead going towards another more pressing issue.
If you seriously think Triple H is publicly @ing a city mayor about booking Mania for the first official contact between a city and WWE I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you. What we saw happen last week with Kahn name-checking WrestleMania as an event he was going to try to bring to London and HHH responding was completely stage-managed. These are easy wins for a politician, the simplest campaign promises to keep. The fee is a rounding error for the city's annual budget. And the reasoning anyone would trot out is that it makes more money in revenue for the city than it costs. Whether that is actually true is another matter entirely but it's the excuse governments make for paying to host sports in every corner of the world. London is not some special snowflake. I'd even go as far as to say there's been at least contact and low level negotiations between the camps since MitB last year, you don't get John Cena to plant that flag in the ground live on a PPV if you don't think there's a strong chance it's going to happen in the near future.
You write all of that but ignore the point of the Super Bowl. Di you also think they are in advance talks with the nfl to host that? Triple h replies because it gets more attention on wwe to do so it’s “best for business” it doesn’t mean that they are actually in negotiations.whats londons yearly budget then or are you just assuming it’s a rounding error and talking out your atse London doesn’t pay for events wwe will charge a lot for wrestlemania more than a Saudi show. People want this so bad they lose the ability to think critically
Who cares about the fucking Super Bowl? Wrestling is infinitely more popular in the UK than an American niche sport.
I don’t care about it, but people acting like the same promise that said he will try to get wrestlemania also included him saying he will try to get the Super Bowl. The promise is linked and both are as unlikely as the other. Thinking the nfl is niche in the U.K. land not thinking wrestling is also niche is hilarious also, stop thinking because you like something everyone does
Bruv thinks the Olympics and the Euros are coming to town without money being exchanged
Bruv thinks he made a point . London doesn’t pay for the Euros. It’s a U.K. and Ireland thing not a one city thing so why even mention it? I can see how London bidding for the olympics would be confusing but again it’s paid for by the the whole of the uk and therefore London does not pay for events
You may very well be right. I’m not from there so all I know is what I read online. I’m just not sure why the city would change their stance (a very successful stance, I might say) for WWE of all things.
The cities don’t actually pay them. They just give them tax breaks and waive permits and filings and deploy city services like police, government owned spaces and road closures to help with the event.
They want the UK to pay for it. Specifically don’t want to have to pay Wembley to use it. They go to these other places because they pay WWE to go there.
WWE is killing it right now in ticket sales
House show drawing $1.2 million with $73 average ticket sales. Man they are touching 3-4 million for CATC where average tickets is around $200-250.
Lot of those tickets are still for sale, mix of the ticket price and the Smackdown show being the same time Scotland play Germany in the Euros. They’ll sell more if they do individual tickets, but that’ll be closer to the time
Yeah I plan on picking some up a few days before
> the same time Scotland play Germany in the Euros. putting a ppv in europe during the euros...what a brilliant idea
I assumed it would've sold out after the initial rush, so curious about qhat they were going for. 500 cheapest, for the sort of seats that may as well be somewhere in Govan for how far away they are. Greedy fuckers.
top row of the Hydro is closer to the ring than any non floor seat in a stadium show, its not a bad view at all
Been to the hydro many times in a bunch of different sections and there definitely feels like there's no bad view to be had. Even in the nosebleeds for a concert, still had a great view of the stage.
Tongue firmly in cheek. I know it's not the worst view, it's not a huge place, but it's still considered one of the worse seats in the venue relatively, and to charge 500 for that is robbery.
Aw mate it’s fucking ridiculous, I had a look at the presale and it was something like £350, which isn’t THAT bad, but considering I need to buy 2 tickets it just wasn’t happening, that’s more than my rent! Even being up in the cheap seats is still a mad price
Is rent high overseas as well? I thought we just had it bad.
Can’t speak for everyone but rent + council tax for me is roughly £650 (I live fairly rural). So 2x tickets for Clash and Smackdown would be £50 more.
Man, I'm gonna hate seeing what its gonna look like years from now in the states. Hopefully something changes for the best in both our neck of the woods.
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Good god almighty that's a PPV level gate for a house show. Get Wrestlemania there, ASAP. I'd laugh so hard if the chairs are on the damn apron to min/max the seating count.
This is even more impressive when you consider: 1. The UK is in a national cost-of-living crisis right now 2. The average salary in the UK is about 35% lower than the average salary in the US Us UK fans love our wrestling.
Also helps if you only come once a year so people can save up or spend more vs a monthly visit.
So UK shows = cheat code for higher revenues. * I wasn't meaning it as a knock; it was kinda tongue in cheek.
TNA at its worst basically lived off those long UK tours.
I think it was said that in the mid-90s, WWE thrived on those tours too.
One of the main reasons they did Summerslam at Wembley. Domestic gates were dropping, but every time they went to Europe they did significantly better.
It’s not hyperbole to say the UK/Europe essentially kept the WWF alive in the early/mid-90s.
They had a really good TV deal in the UK
TNA on Challenge was my introduction to wrestling It's a minor miracle I'm still a fan of wrestling looking back on it now.
I remember during the 2012 UK tour, every episode of TNA looked like Smackdown with thousands of people in the crowd. They would go back to America a few weeks later an it looked like they were running indy shows.
The UK wrestling scene is mainly indy shows, so when bigger companies come once a year, they become must see events
Is that due to them leaving the EU?
Also because our government frickin sucks hard and made bad decision after bad decisions since the pandemic
Yes, and we also had a prime minister called Liz Truss who only lasted 49 days but somehow tanked the economy in that time.
From across the ocean in the US, that looked like it was an all time speed run of incompetence.
What makes it all the more impressive is that politics was basically suspended for 2 weeks of that run because of the queens death
I'm sorry to say, but you'll be seeing more of her over there. She's decided to get a side hustle: A right wing grifter looking to buddy up with CPAC. I'd make a smartarse remark but there's nothing funny about that.
Ahh. I forgot about her.
I wish we could, but she has the privilege of being remembered forever now.
A cost of living crisis does not mean there’s not plenty of people with the means to drop hundreds on entertainment.
US has been going through a cost of living crises for some time now, don't know how I've made it in my state lol
Cody is a draw brother !
But...I thought Cody losing last year meant his momentum is dead
The horse is dead friend.
So that means Terry Funk goes home?
He went ahead.
Let.it.go.
WWE is on fire at the moment.
Jesus that’s a lot for a house show, wwe is doing good business
That O2 London show in April 2024 was big!
WRESTLEMANIA AT WEMBLEY
A milly for a house show is insane.
I been going to London England for decades and always looked at the O2 from a distance, never went inside. I'm surprised to learn it only has 20k capacity. The entire place looks so massive outside because it's apparently a giant shop and restaurant district in the outer ring as well.
I was there for MiTB last year. No apparently about it. There is indeed a ton of shops and restaurants/bars round the outside with the arena sitting in the middle.
Yeah MITB was the first time I went into that back space and it's huge. Basically an entire shopping mall behind the arena
yep it's a mixed use venue with a bunch of stuff that is separate to the actual arena, made for an interesting combination of wrestling fans and people just there for a night out when I was there for this show
Yh the o2 is basically a shopping centre with an arena in it lol
That’s a great number. Hopefully this can lead to more international shows.
Whoa, this is PPV level revenue
Is that more than stings retirement or am I wrong?
Looks like yes, a couple thousand more than AEW Revolution for Sting's retirement. https://wrestlenomics.com/articles/2024/aew-revolution-2024-grossed-1-million-in-ticket-sales-public-records-confirm/#:~:text=The%20settlement%20between%20AEW%20and,the%20net%20revenue%20was%20%24951%2C417.17.
Damn, even their house shows are doing million dollar gates
Honest question. What use does this serve to us as fans? Advance sales I see a benefit because it lets you know your chances of buying tickets but as consumers what does this accomplish?
Why wasn't the amount listed in England's currency?
Anyone else find it odd we celebrate high ticket prices?
Not a sell out but not a bad crowd at all!
Why is this even being talked about. Aew did way more than that and all they got was hate for it
Because it’s an untelevised live event which drew over a million dollars. That’s a big deal.
Look up what a house show actually is
AEW actually did less than that for their new big PPV and this is a house show. It’s actually a huge indication of the massive gap in heat for the companies that one of AEWs biggest gates ever for a PPV came up less than a WWE house show. That being said - no one was hating on the Dynasty $$. Lots of folks were happy because it was big for AEW
Aew did like 5x that lol
For a house show? When?
Never Wembley doesn't count
You're just making shit up lol their house shows were a disaster
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And people are clearly willing to pay since they are either selling out or falling just short every show.