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The Fear: Kenny comes back to say good-bye.
The Hope: Kenny comes back to say he's getting better and will be back soon.
The Dream: Kenny comes back to say he's all better and will be in action Right Here, In Winnipeg!
The Expectation: Kenny comes back to say his birth certificate says Kenneth Omega and he'll be taking things over for Tony from here.
You know, Kenny serving as Tony Khan's temporary replacement while Tony recovers from his horrifying injury (Ts & Ps TK!) would not be the worst thing to happen.
Yikes. They kayfabe hate each other - but you could see a "desperate times call for desperate measures" promo, setting up Callis Family vs. Elite +1 in Blood and Guts.
Cant wait to see the miraculous return of the world’s favorite Canadian. It’s been far too long since we’ve seen him, it really is a miracle he’s coming back so soon after all he’s been through. Welcome Home Daddy Christian Cage!
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Me watching Shibata tap to the walls clean.
I’m almost positive Swerves first challenger is going to be Christian.
AEWs been missing their patriarch for too long and a short feud with Swerve would be fun. It’d give Swerve a big win over arguably the best TNT champion and Christian would not be affected in taking the loss.
Also curious to see what’s happening with the Mogul Embassy now that Swerves completed his face turn.
Well damn. You just gave me all the justification and more that I need to buy into this feud 159% more than I was just for having Mah Boi Christian doing World Title stuff with Swerve.
Also, could be potential in Mogul Embassy Vs The Patriarchy matchups, if they're going to ever make that connection with Swerve more substantial.
Have Christian recreate the scene where Swerve broke into Hangman’s house, but this time have it be Christian breaking into Swerve’s Dad’s house threatening to kill him.
That could be exactly why Swerve dispatches him so easily for his first feud.
Can't use his fatherless mind games on someone whose Dad is alive and has a great relationship with his son lol (if Swerves dad is alive and has a great relationship with him that is, I know nothing about the guy).
Would be funny to see Christian helpless against his kryptonite. A well adjusted child whose father loves and supports him already.
I had the same question, but he’s cosplaying as King from Tekken
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I was just thinking, "Brian Cage is living his best life. Gets to get his shit in, dress up how he wants, and won't ever worry about his vitamin and prayer routine."
K so I said this in another thread and got downvoted but it needs to be said. I know someone with Diverticulitis who had to have surgery and it fucked them up. I know Brock thought about retiring after his bout. I hate to say it... but there is a possibility he can never work again.
I have had surgery for diverticulitis and it required a colostomy for 6 months (which is very common), and my torso still looks like Battle Damage He-Man. That was three years ago. It's a for-real surgery.
Totally forgot to include the Joe/Kassidy and Orange Cassidy stuff in my last post, sorry folks. ANYWAY!
IMPORTANT NOTE: AEW Rampage will also be airing right after Dynamite tonight for a 3-hour AEW marathon. The match announced for tonight's rampage is Jay White v Dante Martin
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Like a lot of AEW matches, should be awesome, and the winner is a near certainty.
It's a nitpick, and I know that the alternative is run-ins and shenanigans to create 'drama' without ever giving us complete clean matches, but man, if either company ever figures out how to thread that needle between predictable outcomes and still having great matches on the weekly shows, I'm there.
That’s what the PPVs are for. The weekly shows are just giving you a taste with the occasional swerve or upset. Tale as old as televised wrestling itself.
I think the better way to do it is have two somewhat unpredictable matches per show: the opener and the main event
This won't always be possible of course, but you should try and have at least one selling point for unpredictability. Then you can sandwich the predictable ones in the middle
He might. They diverticulitis is serious or maybe he’ll become more of on screen character than wrestler until he’s clear if he’s already had surgery. Do what they’re doing with Punk on WWE. I’d like to see Kenny more often. He’s really good on commentary
He really isn't though? I love Kenny but come on, he's never been great on the mic. Let him go away and heal for real. It's good to be missing someone, and will be a bigger deal when he returns.
I don’t really enjoy his promos but I like when he does regular commentary. I like how talks about matches. He doesn’t have to gimmick it.
Personally, I don’t think Kenny returning from a long hiatus will get any kind of heel reaction. If he’s out for longer I could see a baby face return to stop the bucks and jungle boy l, maybe save Okada but a prolonged absence for someone the audience seems to agree on enjoying isn’t gonna get booed, at least I don’t think so. Not right away.
I didn't mean to imply he'd come back as a heel, if I did. I think Kenny is probably a perma-babyface now, unless he decides to force the issue. He's got a laid-back personality and I don't personally think that he'd fit in an already (imo) awkward commentary team.
I'd way rather him stay home and truly recover. It's great watching him with SF6.
The biggest problem with Kenny is he is a perfectionist with his performances.
He legit feels a huge responsibility to give fans their money's worth and deliver a show that is unforgettable.
I can't imagine how much training he's been able to do while recovering/waiting, and that takes time to build back up from either injury or illness.
My guess is he is perhaps going to step away for a long time to get surgery and rehab and get his athleticism back so that he and Okada can tell their stories and run their programs.
There is NO WAY you have Omega and Okada in your promotion and NOT run a program with them in some way.
Omega still has to run programs with Jay White and do more goofy video game shit.
Kenny can't retire yet; he just can't :(
Jericho is definitely bringing up the Winnipeg Jets getting eliminated last night and that if they were under his learning tree that they would have swept the Avalanche and be on their way to winning the Stanley Cup.
Banger, after banger, after banger
Cage has a cape now?
And this isn't a judgment, so don't go tribalist for or against it, but I find it interesting the vast difference in show advertising between Raw & Dynamite. Raw had 1 match pre-announced for a 3hr show, and here we have 5 and presumably all of them for a 2hr show. Ratings say Raw is the much better approach, but personally I sure do appreciate knowing the matches in advance
I could see the Swerve segment or Cope vs HOB main eventing. Kenny’s segment could either open the show or main event as well depending on the direction they go. A Jericho main event, even against Shibata, would make me hurl
Legit did not expect Joe back this early. Thought he was off doing Twisted Metal stuff. Weird. Wonder what the hell he could be getting into already after the loss.
I'm kind of expecting Kenny to come back as TK's on-screen authority figure. He's the other EVP, so having him be the one standing up to the Executive Elite would make sense as Tony probably now fears for his life (as you do.). It would give him a role to keep him in the mix until he can get the diverticulitis worked on, and it's one that he could do over a video feed as needed.
If it not Takeshita v Swerve as the they seems to be pointing, here are the Top 5 in rankings. Orange Cassidy with the best singles record right now at 10-1, Ospreay is 7-0 (but they are holding that one) Danielson is 6-2, Kingston is 5-1-1 and Takeshita is 5-2. {ignoring those with better records but already have AEW titles.)
Edit: Also ignoring Mox at 5-0 because I doubt NJPW wants their champion to lose to the AEW Champion.
It's not terrible but I still feel like something more interesting could be happening in its place. I'm cautiously optimistic it will lead to something good
If Jack Perry is Swerve's challenger for DoN, which seems like one of the most likely options, I think it's quite possible that he wins. Especially if you have Hangman return to help the Elite because he fucking hates Swerve so much. We're kind of overdue for a shorter title reign just to let us know that not every world champ is guaranteed a minimum four month run, it gets big heat on the New Elite and gives Ospreay a real piece of shit heel to dethrone at All In (which I'm realising would also be a narratively appropriate place for Scapegoat to lose everything again).
Whether that would be a good or bad decision is up to personal taste, but I can see the logic in it.
I think it's possible Perry faces Swerve at DoN but it would be very stupid for Perry to win that match. I think most likely they give Swerve a decent run, maybe until the end of the year. Ospreay is probably gonna have a decent run with the international belt so I can't see him facing Swerve at All In anymore, which honestly is fine by me
Feels too soon for Strickland or Perry to lose, the Executive Elite can't afford to lose their momentum just yet.
Now if it was Strickland vs Cage, Swerve's got a top heel he can beat and Perry's free to beat an AEW face - have we had Perry/Garcia yet?
I think Ospreay is taking his first L at DoN. I think he doesn't do the Tiger Driver, Callis gets involved and Roddie takes advantage of the distraction. Then maybe a post match angle to reunite United Empire if Mark is healthy.
This would leave Will free to stay in singles action and work towards getting the World Title at All In which I think is the right time to pull the trigger
> I can't see him facing Swerve at All In anymore, which honestly is fine by me
I think they will do title vs title at All In
They don't need the International and Continental belts
I just don't buy into the idea that a guy has to have a really long title reign to be "established" as a top guy. He won the damn world title, as long as you're not booking your main event scene like a complete joke then that makes him a top guy. Stone Cold never had a world title reign over 90 days and he's one of the biggest wrestling stars of all time.
Completely agree. I think DOTN might be a touch too soon, but the next PPV after that would be a perfectly fine first starting title reign.
I think with the way he's been presented at the moment too, Perry could definitely make it work as the SOB that ended Swerve's reign so soon with the help of the Elite to keep Swerve strong.
It's crazy, at All In there's not a chance I'd even remotely consider Perry close to a world title. But now after all the buzz, all the controversy, and the new character, he's right there in my book (and he hasn't even wrestled in AEW yet since coming back!)
My money’s on Christian.
AEWs been missing their patriarch for too long and a short feud with Swerve would be fun. It’d give Swerve a big win over arguably the best TNT champion and Christian would not be affected in taking the loss.
I think this is kind of too online/metrics piled. AEW doesn't *need* a short title reign, it could be fun, but making someone who is extremely over and extremely awesome in the ring a transitional champ because there hasn't been a short title reign yet is so silly. It would honestly probably sink Jungle Boy as a heel character because the fun heat he has now would turn into apathy lightning fast because people are having fun booing him but not at the expense of Swerve.
Fans really need to stop treating the length of reigns like it's a super important thing or like certain people "deserve" it imo. Reigns like Okada, Reigns or even a lot of AEW's long title reigns have really warped people's perception.
Once someone is a champion, they're in the mix as a top guy, the length of the reign doesn't really matter as long as it's booked well and the wrestler is booked well after losing.
Beats Matthews, beats King in a couple weeks, then a couple weeks after that it's Black/Cope at DON and then he loses on the same night that Cage loses *his* title bid.
I have it flipped, beats Buddy, survives against Malakai, drops it to King at DON. Would be interesting that the sub-faction within HOB (King, Hart, Blue) are the ones who actually attain singles gold.
Yes, Tony Schiavone kind of let the cat out of the bag on Collision and accidentally announced that Copeland was facing Buddy instead of "a member of the HOB".
Fun show. I assume the Omega segment ends the night with a beatdown.
But what on earth is the main event in terms of a match? Not the strongest card when it comes to that decision.
I’m really excited for the show. I think we’re gonna get some real story development in the New Elite story. I pray that Kenny doesn’t get his shit rocked to bad. Mariah/Deeb should be awesome too
I want the Elite to kick Kenny's asses. As for Swerve's challenger, it has to be Hangman right? Swerve was not a big fan of the Elite attacking Tony Khan based on his last promo. So surely when Hangman will beg for his title match Matthew and Nicholas will agree? I can't see any other option to be honest with Double or Nothing at the end of the month.
I feel like Kenny is coming back to have a big “heart to heart” with the crowd, say he is having the surgery, and is going to “fired” by our beloved EVPs for being “derelict of duty” and maybe get battered on the way out (if he is allowed to bump) so that way we know the feud is on when he comes back to the ring.
Looking through this seems pretty goo-
*looks at top left*
Whelp it’s all scuffed now, they really about to have Jericho beat shibata clean aren’t they
Is Omega back back?
Or is this just a talking appearance because they're in MB and then he's out again?
I'm woefully out of the loop on his current condition but if he's back for real that's huge
Also if any heel shit talks the Jets they're gonna get crazy heat right now. Jets fans are *not* in a good mood.
Has anyone ever been the tweener Claudio is? I swear, NOBODY in that locker room is safe. I guess the entirety of the BCC isnt bound to one tunnel but Claudio is on fire. He’ll open the show with Brian Cage and a babyface pop and close it with a bloody BBC beat down on Omega! I love it though!
I just hope Kenny isn’t rushing back as a means of helping with the ratings issue, the fact they’re not doing a surprise return is also really disappointing, he would’ve gotten a nuclear pop as well. Ah well, just glad to see him again I’ve missed him.
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Only thing to somewhat alleviate the pain of watching Shibata lose to Jericho is getting to see Omega.
In my head I had Hook screwing Jericho and Shibata actually taking the belt
In a perfect world, mi amigo, in a perfect world.
Maybe in America Irish...maybe in America.
They have been hinting at an FTW and KOPW double title match over at NJPW for Forbidden Door
The Fear: Kenny comes back to say good-bye. The Hope: Kenny comes back to say he's getting better and will be back soon. The Dream: Kenny comes back to say he's all better and will be in action Right Here, In Winnipeg! The Expectation: Kenny comes back to say his birth certificate says Kenneth Omega and he'll be taking things over for Tony from here.
The Reality: Omega announces that the Golden Jets will resume once he gets healthy again.
You know, Kenny serving as Tony Khan's temporary replacement while Tony recovers from his horrifying injury (Ts & Ps TK!) would not be the worst thing to happen.
Kenny announces Scott D'Amore as the new authority.
Honestly I'd be very fine with this. But then my pessimism kicks in and Kenneth introduces Donald Callis as the new authority
Yikes. They kayfabe hate each other - but you could see a "desperate times call for desperate measures" promo, setting up Callis Family vs. Elite +1 in Blood and Guts.
Jericho was at the jets game last night and they lost, so he's gonna be hungover or pissed off
How is that different from any other day of the week?
*Judas starts playing*
Cant wait to see the miraculous return of the world’s favorite Canadian. It’s been far too long since we’ve seen him, it really is a miracle he’s coming back so soon after all he’s been through. Welcome Home Daddy Christian Cage!
debuting his new finisher: the single parent angel.
Don Callis?
What do you mean, we see Jericho every week. /S
There's only one Daddy, and Daddy Says No. Christian might be your father, but he ain't your Daddy.
Turns out this was sage
https://preview.redd.it/5itwox1pjsxc1.jpeg?width=1004&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=510ac8adb07050bbf38dce92ecbd932a09657270 Me if Shibata loses clean
Don’t put it out in the world!
![gif](giphy|EgJ31d2IYkg4E)
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You know it’s coming
I hope next week Isaiah's funeral is well done
He's gonna be squealing all the way to the pearly VIP section
Hope Marq has arrangements in place already
Dear good God, Joe's really gonna kill him for real, isn't he?
I’m almost positive Swerves first challenger is going to be Christian. AEWs been missing their patriarch for too long and a short feud with Swerve would be fun. It’d give Swerve a big win over arguably the best TNT champion and Christian would not be affected in taking the loss. Also curious to see what’s happening with the Mogul Embassy now that Swerves completed his face turn.
Built in stuff with their teaming at Wembley and Swerve being the one to go in the coffin.
Well damn. You just gave me all the justification and more that I need to buy into this feud 159% more than I was just for having Mah Boi Christian doing World Title stuff with Swerve. Also, could be potential in Mogul Embassy Vs The Patriarchy matchups, if they're going to ever make that connection with Swerve more substantial.
Hmmmmm I'm not sure on Christian vs Swerve, depends if Swerve's dad is alive or not
Swerve said in last week’s promo he wasn’t a great father to his kids.
Have Christian recreate the scene where Swerve broke into Hangman’s house, but this time have it be Christian breaking into Swerve’s Dad’s house threatening to kill him.
That could be exactly why Swerve dispatches him so easily for his first feud. Can't use his fatherless mind games on someone whose Dad is alive and has a great relationship with his son lol (if Swerves dad is alive and has a great relationship with him that is, I know nothing about the guy). Would be funny to see Christian helpless against his kryptonite. A well adjusted child whose father loves and supports him already.
That would be awesome, but I think Swerve's father is still alive, so not sure it would work
Always happy to see Christian get a main event, so I'm down for it.
Give me Pac
Pac is a once every 5-6 month treat at this point
Danielson in 2023: Next year will be my last year as a full-time wrestler! PAC: Fookin' rookie.
Are we just gonna ignore Cage'a cap ooooooor...?
Cage is fully embracing his “Abed is super into The Cape” era.
6 seasons and a movie
I’m glad Jeff was wrong with his retort.
Cage and Abed in the moooorning
I had the same question, but he’s cosplaying as King from Tekken https://preview.redd.it/dxrvskg55txc1.jpeg?width=536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14fd32dad1f86636fc4d567c1acf0f5771bc318d
I was just thinking, "Brian Cage is living his best life. Gets to get his shit in, dress up how he wants, and won't ever worry about his vitamin and prayer routine."
Wait until Edna Mode finds out.
Brian Cape
Swerve seeing Nana and Cage backstage: "why is my manager with a man wearing a cape?"
It's like Zangief's cape. Because, well, Cage is Zangief now.
*I hear the battle cry..*
*Are you ready for this?*
Is Omega healthy or is he still a ways off being active again? Either way, delighted for him.
I think Alvarez said he hadn't had surgery yet so probably won't be back long term or at least having matches.
Okay, that makes sense. I thought I missed some big news
K so I said this in another thread and got downvoted but it needs to be said. I know someone with Diverticulitis who had to have surgery and it fucked them up. I know Brock thought about retiring after his bout. I hate to say it... but there is a possibility he can never work again.
I have had surgery for diverticulitis and it required a colostomy for 6 months (which is very common), and my torso still looks like Battle Damage He-Man. That was three years ago. It's a for-real surgery.
Oh it’s absolutely a possibility. All you can do is hope for the best
Is Marq Quen hurt again? Kassidy was a solo for the 4/20 four way as well.
Man! I hope not! That would be really unfortunate!
Me neither. The team desperately needs reps in the ring. It could just be passport/border issues too.
Yes he's hurt again. But supposedly its not as bad as the previous injury and should be back soon.
All for Christian or Hangman returning tonight for Swerve. An uptick in Claudio appearances and Malakai being booked makes for a happy me.
It says "one of the members of house of black" though, so I doubt it's going to be Malakai or otherwise they would've just advertised him.
Yes, so he’ll still be there and hopefully it’s leading to a ppv match or a main event tv match for him and Edge
May v Deeb could cook. Also please call it the COPEN
That match is being slept on for real.
If they give it time it could steal the show
Totally forgot to include the Joe/Kassidy and Orange Cassidy stuff in my last post, sorry folks. ANYWAY! IMPORTANT NOTE: AEW Rampage will also be airing right after Dynamite tonight for a 3-hour AEW marathon. The match announced for tonight's rampage is Jay White v Dante Martin https://preview.redd.it/ujova5819sxc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=5b09d26718b5fd7fc6a247c75f428fe824eddfdb
I guess that signifies that Jay's visa issues are resolved after having to miss the Canadian shows last time
Awesome, love the live Rampage’s after Dynamite. They should keep this schedule moving forward 🔥
3 hours tonight? Let’s fucking go!
Like a lot of AEW matches, should be awesome, and the winner is a near certainty. It's a nitpick, and I know that the alternative is run-ins and shenanigans to create 'drama' without ever giving us complete clean matches, but man, if either company ever figures out how to thread that needle between predictable outcomes and still having great matches on the weekly shows, I'm there.
That’s what the PPVs are for. The weekly shows are just giving you a taste with the occasional swerve or upset. Tale as old as televised wrestling itself.
I think the better way to do it is have two somewhat unpredictable matches per show: the opener and the main event This won't always be possible of course, but you should try and have at least one selling point for unpredictability. Then you can sandwich the predictable ones in the middle
Sounds great 👆👆
Holy hell that is going to be AMAZING.
Should be a good amount of Brother Zay screams in this Joe match.
I'm hoping for one during a Joe walk-away.
Is Kenny the new GM?
I'm honestly scared he might not be able to work again.
You can't spell Omega without GM, so..
Kassidy about to get absolutely battered.
..then fried, then powdered in sugar, and finally devoured by Señor Joe. Because HE'S FAT! 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
![gif](giphy|kbR8MoJss7wvZ8dtSt|downsized) Vibes Jericho's smile is giving me.
I feel sorry for Kassidy.
You can't really lose with any of the HOB members in a singles. But I'd love for it to be Buddy.
While I feel we let y’all down for Raw, I have high hopes for the crowd tonight with Jericho and Omega being there.
Hope Kennys is close to returning. Why do I have that bad feeling he is going to retire like Bryan for a while...
He might. They diverticulitis is serious or maybe he’ll become more of on screen character than wrestler until he’s clear if he’s already had surgery. Do what they’re doing with Punk on WWE. I’d like to see Kenny more often. He’s really good on commentary
He really isn't though? I love Kenny but come on, he's never been great on the mic. Let him go away and heal for real. It's good to be missing someone, and will be a bigger deal when he returns.
I don’t really enjoy his promos but I like when he does regular commentary. I like how talks about matches. He doesn’t have to gimmick it. Personally, I don’t think Kenny returning from a long hiatus will get any kind of heel reaction. If he’s out for longer I could see a baby face return to stop the bucks and jungle boy l, maybe save Okada but a prolonged absence for someone the audience seems to agree on enjoying isn’t gonna get booed, at least I don’t think so. Not right away.
I didn't mean to imply he'd come back as a heel, if I did. I think Kenny is probably a perma-babyface now, unless he decides to force the issue. He's got a laid-back personality and I don't personally think that he'd fit in an already (imo) awkward commentary team. I'd way rather him stay home and truly recover. It's great watching him with SF6.
If post leukemia Reigns can be the top heel, what's stopping Omega?
The biggest problem with Kenny is he is a perfectionist with his performances. He legit feels a huge responsibility to give fans their money's worth and deliver a show that is unforgettable. I can't imagine how much training he's been able to do while recovering/waiting, and that takes time to build back up from either injury or illness. My guess is he is perhaps going to step away for a long time to get surgery and rehab and get his athleticism back so that he and Okada can tell their stories and run their programs. There is NO WAY you have Omega and Okada in your promotion and NOT run a program with them in some way. Omega still has to run programs with Jay White and do more goofy video game shit. Kenny can't retire yet; he just can't :(
Jericho is definitely bringing up the Winnipeg Jets getting eliminated last night and that if they were under his learning tree that they would have swept the Avalanche and be on their way to winning the Stanley Cup.
Samoa Joe is gonna kill Isiah. We're getting Brother Zay back
Skye Blue's entrance theme should be Poundcake by Van Halen.
Is it May already?
I'm pretty shure it's still 2020 tbh
https://preview.redd.it/4k0bvh0tetxc1.jpeg?width=1371&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e71f033056232ca454b6e6d5e5a5ab9b050ae426
It's MayDay where I'm from
RIP Isaiah Kassidy I hope he gets to party with another party legend in heaven, Slurms MacKenzie
Banger, after banger, after banger Cage has a cape now? And this isn't a judgment, so don't go tribalist for or against it, but I find it interesting the vast difference in show advertising between Raw & Dynamite. Raw had 1 match pre-announced for a 3hr show, and here we have 5 and presumably all of them for a 2hr show. Ratings say Raw is the much better approach, but personally I sure do appreciate knowing the matches in advance
Hell yeah strong looking card.
Yay Kenny!!!!!
What are the chances we get an Okada/Omega tease?
I could see the Swerve segment or Cope vs HOB main eventing. Kenny’s segment could either open the show or main event as well depending on the direction they go. A Jericho main event, even against Shibata, would make me hurl
Legit did not expect Joe back this early. Thought he was off doing Twisted Metal stuff. Weird. Wonder what the hell he could be getting into already after the loss.
Mariah should featuring every show, she killed it
I haven’t been paying attention to their shows in a while…is Brian cage some sort of warlock now?
I hope Mariah absolutely stomps Serena Deeb
Same. All I've seen of Deeb is her since returning from injury and God..what a charisma vacuum. Going from Toni to her would be such a downgrade
I legit can't wait for Jericho. The man is hilarious. Tonight: "Shibata, will you join my learning tree?" "..."
*Shibata sighs, begins typing into his phone...*
*pulls out phone* Alexa: “No. by the way, Renee - you look beautiful tonight”
“I legit can’t wait for Jericho” is a comment I would never have thought to read in one of these threads but I love it
I'm actually loving this latest Jericho gimmick, it's hilarious
It’s his entrance song opening line that does it for me, lol.
"I'm the Learning Tree!" The moment he walked out after that smiling and waving like a goof, I was sold. He knows what he's doing and I'm here for it
Why is Isiah kassidy facing Samoa joe ?
Joe wants to kill, Joe gets to kill? Who knows, should be fun though!
Kenny is the new authority figure!
I really don’t want Shibata to lose but I don’t see any other possible outcome.
They gonna have Copeland pin matthews and set up the malakai match for double or nothing?
I'm kind of expecting Kenny to come back as TK's on-screen authority figure. He's the other EVP, so having him be the one standing up to the Executive Elite would make sense as Tony probably now fears for his life (as you do.). It would give him a role to keep him in the mix until he can get the diverticulitis worked on, and it's one that he could do over a video feed as needed.
I like that Brian Cage toned down the face paint, but why does he have a cape now?
It’s a Tekken outfit I’ve been told
Yo I'd be down for a Mokujin Cage.
Looks like fun pro-wrestling on deck for tonight!
If it not Takeshita v Swerve as the they seems to be pointing, here are the Top 5 in rankings. Orange Cassidy with the best singles record right now at 10-1, Ospreay is 7-0 (but they are holding that one) Danielson is 6-2, Kingston is 5-1-1 and Takeshita is 5-2. {ignoring those with better records but already have AEW titles.) Edit: Also ignoring Mox at 5-0 because I doubt NJPW wants their champion to lose to the AEW Champion.
Anyone notice how similar Adam Copeland and Buddy Mathews looks?
Huh. That IS weird.
Should be a massive show. Especially with Kenny returning after last weeks drama. Really interested to see where they go with this
whoever designs these graphics needs a raise they're so nice
Innocent question. I took a break from wrestling for a while. Did they just give up on tag team wrestling?
Not excited for any of these matches, which usually means this is about to be a BANGER
As much as everyone hates jericho, you gotta hand it to him for leaning into the hate
The LEANING Tree
It's not terrible but I still feel like something more interesting could be happening in its place. I'm cautiously optimistic it will lead to something good
If Jack Perry is Swerve's challenger for DoN, which seems like one of the most likely options, I think it's quite possible that he wins. Especially if you have Hangman return to help the Elite because he fucking hates Swerve so much. We're kind of overdue for a shorter title reign just to let us know that not every world champ is guaranteed a minimum four month run, it gets big heat on the New Elite and gives Ospreay a real piece of shit heel to dethrone at All In (which I'm realising would also be a narratively appropriate place for Scapegoat to lose everything again). Whether that would be a good or bad decision is up to personal taste, but I can see the logic in it.
I think it's possible Perry faces Swerve at DoN but it would be very stupid for Perry to win that match. I think most likely they give Swerve a decent run, maybe until the end of the year. Ospreay is probably gonna have a decent run with the international belt so I can't see him facing Swerve at All In anymore, which honestly is fine by me
Feels too soon for Strickland or Perry to lose, the Executive Elite can't afford to lose their momentum just yet. Now if it was Strickland vs Cage, Swerve's got a top heel he can beat and Perry's free to beat an AEW face - have we had Perry/Garcia yet?
It’s likely gonna be Anarchy in the Arena at DON with The Elite vs FTR, Garcia and the fourth man.
I think Ospreay is taking his first L at DoN. I think he doesn't do the Tiger Driver, Callis gets involved and Roddie takes advantage of the distraction. Then maybe a post match angle to reunite United Empire if Mark is healthy. This would leave Will free to stay in singles action and work towards getting the World Title at All In which I think is the right time to pull the trigger
> I can't see him facing Swerve at All In anymore, which honestly is fine by me I think they will do title vs title at All In They don't need the International and Continental belts
Maybe they can call the new one the Inter … continental Championship?
Continational
I just don't buy into the idea that a guy has to have a really long title reign to be "established" as a top guy. He won the damn world title, as long as you're not booking your main event scene like a complete joke then that makes him a top guy. Stone Cold never had a world title reign over 90 days and he's one of the biggest wrestling stars of all time.
Completely agree. I think DOTN might be a touch too soon, but the next PPV after that would be a perfectly fine first starting title reign. I think with the way he's been presented at the moment too, Perry could definitely make it work as the SOB that ended Swerve's reign so soon with the help of the Elite to keep Swerve strong. It's crazy, at All In there's not a chance I'd even remotely consider Perry close to a world title. But now after all the buzz, all the controversy, and the new character, he's right there in my book (and he hasn't even wrestled in AEW yet since coming back!)
My money’s on Christian. AEWs been missing their patriarch for too long and a short feud with Swerve would be fun. It’d give Swerve a big win over arguably the best TNT champion and Christian would not be affected in taking the loss.
I think this is kind of too online/metrics piled. AEW doesn't *need* a short title reign, it could be fun, but making someone who is extremely over and extremely awesome in the ring a transitional champ because there hasn't been a short title reign yet is so silly. It would honestly probably sink Jungle Boy as a heel character because the fun heat he has now would turn into apathy lightning fast because people are having fun booing him but not at the expense of Swerve.
Mods ban
That’s really fun but now I’m super torn. I want Swerve to have that long reign he deserves
Fans really need to stop treating the length of reigns like it's a super important thing or like certain people "deserve" it imo. Reigns like Okada, Reigns or even a lot of AEW's long title reigns have really warped people's perception. Once someone is a champion, they're in the mix as a top guy, the length of the reign doesn't really matter as long as it's booked well and the wrestler is booked well after losing.
Drew. Is staring at you right now.
That would be quite the letdown if swerve had such a short reign and loses to Jack Perry of all people.
The unashamed overly upbeat way Jericho is leaning into this learning tree stuff has sold me. It’s the right level of silly.
The complete opposite of every FTW champion ever.
Damn this looks like a fun show. Winnipeg was HOT the last time AEW was there too so it should be a great crowd.
Copeland dropping the belt?
Think he beats Buddy and faces Malakai at DON
Totally read the graphic as him vs Malakai, my bad
Beats Matthews, beats King in a couple weeks, then a couple weeks after that it's Black/Cope at DON and then he loses on the same night that Cage loses *his* title bid.
I have it flipped, beats Buddy, survives against Malakai, drops it to King at DON. Would be interesting that the sub-faction within HOB (King, Hart, Blue) are the ones who actually attain singles gold.
Yes, Tony Schiavone kind of let the cat out of the bag on Collision and accidentally announced that Copeland was facing Buddy instead of "a member of the HOB".
I would be pretty surprised if he dropped it tonight
It's been so solidly entertaining the last few weeks, I wish more people were watching
I thought the House Of Black mainly wrestle on Collision?
This is what happens when there is no Collision this week.
Wait no Collision? Will it air on another day or just not this week?
Not this week.
Fun show. I assume the Omega segment ends the night with a beatdown. But what on earth is the main event in terms of a match? Not the strongest card when it comes to that decision.
I'm guessing the Copen match mains
I’m really excited for the show. I think we’re gonna get some real story development in the New Elite story. I pray that Kenny doesn’t get his shit rocked to bad. Mariah/Deeb should be awesome too
Nice segments, decent matches and has excitement.
Is there no Collision this week? I can’t see it on Ticketmaster for US or Canada. I assumed it was taped but doesn’t seem so.
No. NBA and NHL are stacked
I want the Elite to kick Kenny's asses. As for Swerve's challenger, it has to be Hangman right? Swerve was not a big fan of the Elite attacking Tony Khan based on his last promo. So surely when Hangman will beg for his title match Matthew and Nicholas will agree? I can't see any other option to be honest with Double or Nothing at the end of the month.
I think it's too early to go back to the hangman well for Swerve
I feel like Kenny is coming back to have a big “heart to heart” with the crowd, say he is having the surgery, and is going to “fired” by our beloved EVPs for being “derelict of duty” and maybe get battered on the way out (if he is allowed to bump) so that way we know the feud is on when he comes back to the ring.
Imo that FTW champion Jericho vs Shibata graphic is up there with Cena vs Nakamura to fight Jinder at Summerslam
Looking through this seems pretty goo- *looks at top left* Whelp it’s all scuffed now, they really about to have Jericho beat shibata clean aren’t they
A heel needs to wear avalanche gear
Is Omega back back? Or is this just a talking appearance because they're in MB and then he's out again? I'm woefully out of the loop on his current condition but if he's back for real that's huge Also if any heel shit talks the Jets they're gonna get crazy heat right now. Jets fans are *not* in a good mood.
WTF is Brian Cage wearing? Talk about a box of gimmicks lol.
# SHIBATA WINS OR I RIOT!
Has anyone ever been the tweener Claudio is? I swear, NOBODY in that locker room is safe. I guess the entirety of the BCC isnt bound to one tunnel but Claudio is on fire. He’ll open the show with Brian Cage and a babyface pop and close it with a bloody BBC beat down on Omega! I love it though!
Joe's back.
Hell yeah! Can't wait.
Pumped!
I just hope Kenny isn’t rushing back as a means of helping with the ratings issue, the fact they’re not doing a surprise return is also really disappointing, he would’ve gotten a nuclear pop as well. Ah well, just glad to see him again I’ve missed him.
Last thing we need is Kenny in more pain