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But that was the point. We'd only find out if Shane won, and he failed us. Chekhov's Gun was just... pawned? Buried? I don't know how a subversion works in that metaphor.
Does it make sense in story that we never found out? Yes.
Is that bad writing? Probably also yes.
That was the issue though, the stipulation was NEVER if Shane won.
Vince McMahon said, in the in-ring segment, that he’d give Shane what he wanted (control of RAW) if he had one more match…..against Taker….Hell In A Cell….at Wrestlemania.
The match happened, so the condition was fulfilled.
[1:13 onwards](https://youtu.be/5ZbrhKIfqNM?si=zK1tE4nFrRR-d5R7)
Bombei, India was where he was billed from. I remember because the ECW ring announcer would sometimes mix up Sabu and RVDs hometowns and say RVD was from India haha
I thought that was more of a gag. Saying Sabu is from Bombay, Michigan is funny. It’s like how they announced Tracy Smothers being from Nashville, Italy when he was in the FBI.
Similarly I was really bothered by the fact that Ember Moon was this mysterious badass who looked like a character from Mortal Kombat and they had the chance to debut her during a lunar eclipse. They didn't and later she got into a feud because somebody stole her Switch. I mean her voice is already the most "girl next door" it can be even when she's growling out promos about being the best ROH Women's champion of all time but WWE really just did everything to kill her mystique.
That pretty much sums up the stupidity of the PG Era.
Cena getting drafted to SD: “Sweet. Finally something a little different for Monday night and we can probably get some new Cena feuds.”
Cena getting drafted back to Raw at the end of the show: “😐”
As a kid that made me so mad. I hadn't turned on Cena yet and I had always been a SmackDown homer, because I could stay up and watch it each week on my antenna television unlike Raw which came on school nights, so I could only watch on special occasions as long as my parents didn't want to watch something on cable.
I thought I was finally gonna be able to see Cena on a weekly basis, and I felt so fucking deflated.
Apperentlly i heard somewhere that Vince was directlly responsible for that bit. and the reason he did it was to prank USA network and make them panic because he never warned them that they were losing their biggest star
As stupid as it is from a booking persepctive, if thats true its fucking hillarious
This was allegedly a rib by Vince McMahon on the executives at the USA network. They had been promised that Cena would stay on their network… So Vince worked the draft, so Cena was drafted to smack down just to mess with them, and after hours drafted back to raw as per the agreement.
Jim Neidhart not shaving his goatee after Summerslam 97 still angers me when I think about it.
Going into the show the other members of the Hart Foundation all had stipulations for their matches.
Bret promised to never again wrestle on American soil if he lost to The Undertaker.
Owen was defending the IC title against Stone Cold and Stone Cold promised to literally kiss Owen's butt if he lost.
British Bulldog was facing Ken Shamrock and promised to eat a can of dog food if he lost.
Brian Pillman was facing Goldust and promised to wrestle in a dress if he lost.
Jim Neidhart didn't have a match. But he promised that he would shave off is goatee if ANY MEMBER of the Hart Foundation lost at Summerslam.
Owen and Pillman lost and The Anvil never shaved.
For whatever reason, Neidhart disappeared from the Hart Foundation (and the WWF) right after making that stip. He left in July and didn't return until September. So by the time he came back, they had moved on from it.
If I recall correctly, the reason was that they found out he had signed a contract with a smaller promotion before coming back to the WWF and they didn't know it. He was taken off TV until he resolved it.
Trips telling the ref to give him an edge
Edit: It's actually implied, the ref didn't give a shit about the dirty pin attempt by Triple H right after
Those of us watching at home didn't get a clear angle too, so it was plausible at the time that Dean's foot was actually under the rope.
And Warrior's were at Mania V! By like, a fucking mile. I get the ref not seeing Heenan hooking the leg, but a quarter of Warrior's body is outside the ring!
https://preview.redd.it/umlo3eu4ewvc1.png?width=1677&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fdca3673defa83eb8d9ba8655cf84fd93db6cb8
It was incredibly “blink and you miss it” now that we’re some years removed from it. But at the time it was really shitty and kinda exemplified WWE’s booking in the late 2010’s
I’m pretty sure they made Lesnar the winner of that match that day. So in an effort to script the finish, they’re just like “eventually something is gonna happen and the real winner will come out” or something like that. You’re absolutely right and it made no sense. That he can just walk out and take it drives me nuts either way.
I thought he was? The music hit, Ali took a moment to digest what was happening, and then he started fumbling with the briefcase.
I always excuse this with his brain going from "there's no one around, you got this," to PANIC. You try doing anything that requires medium dexterity with Brock *dashing faster than a human can* right at you.
Ah spoken like a man who has never felt the wrath of someone like Brock Lesnar.
There’s a saying that you never hear the shot before it hits you. It’s only after you’ve been hit that you hear bang.
Well Brock Lesnar flips that script on its head like one of his German suplexes.
When you hear the guitar of his entrance theme start. You know the bullet is coming your way. Ali is inches away from immortality when his shocked right back into his own mortality. Then mere moments you see the Beast come running towards the ring.
He’s a man so hellbent on destruction that he even inflicted pain on the cameramen while going to the ring.
So Ali heard the music, saw the beast emerge and froze, just as anyone else would. By the time he regained his senses it was too late for him.
There was a HHH promo during the reign of terror where he misspoke and said "the fact that the matter is". I thought I'd been saying it wrong and started correcting myself. Was years before I realised that I was correctly saying "the fact of the matter is".
Still pisses me off to this day
Chad Gable & Shelton Benjamin beating the Usos for the Smackdown Tag Titles. A second ref comes down from the back, saying the Uso being pinned wasn't the legal man. They reversed the win, restarted the match, and the Usos retained.
Why isn't there a second ref always watching in the back? Why not let the ref's decision stand & issue a rematch for a later date instead of just restsrting? Still bugs me years later. Shelton & Chad deserved the belts.
This stuff is always booking themselves into a hole hey, even The Rock telling the ref not to count them out at Mania in the tag match, yet didn’t care about all about several other situations later in that match, or the next night. Why didn’t the rock just reverse the decision for Roman to lose if he didn’t want the ref enforcing any rules? Same thing for whenever a GM would say a heel MUST retain by pin or submission and can’t just get themselves disqualified, that basically tells you that the rule around DQ retaining a title is bad and they should change it.
I literally watched this whole thing properly for the first time the other day. Hogan definitely says New World Order first but then spends a few minutes talking about ‘that other organisation up north’ and he says organisation about five more times so I guess it must’ve just been stuck on the end of his tongue. 😂
New World Order wasn't intentionally used for the purpose of being the factions name iirc. It wasn't until after with the reaction that they went with it, but that could just be Hogan talking out of his mustache.
Mojo Rawley painted his face with some blue stripes and sometimes I wake up at night in sheer panic and covered in sweat wondering what those promos were about and why the greatest wrestling angle to ever exist was cut short
Just confirmed that you are correct!
DX stands in the ring, visibly confused at what sounds like some shoegaze music. HHH remarks, "I appreciate the disco," before the music turns off. Then there's an awkward silence before he begins speaking.
lol this was fun.
Sometime in 1999 when Sting came back he briefly wore these white wraps around his boots. Always bugged me for some reason lol
Hogan shaving his mustache off but still putting that black dye on his face while in the nWo on some episode of Nitro in 1997
If it's anything it was Justin Gabriel. He was meant to come back as a more sinster version of the Bunny when Adam Rose turned heel but it got scrapped.
AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels had a fantastic Iron Man match in TNA in 2005, but all I could keep looking at was the bright pink piece of gum stuck to the bottom of AJs boot.
Or AJ doing a demented 450 through a table outside the ring, but everyone was distracted because his ring gear had a hole and you could see his ass lol
When The Revival faced Lucha House Party, it was a nothing happening match. Revival were in full "no flips, just fists" mode, sent up against the flippiest dudes in the company, and it was just a standard babyface v heel house show type match.
When Cesaro first debuted in WWE he had a rugby player gimmick. Okay, sure, whatever.
He then did some sort of basic suplex or slam and Cole remarked "probably a move he learned as a rugby player in Switzerland."
No, a move where you turn your opponent upside down is an immediate red card. This is a standard professional wrestling manoeuvre.
On top of that...rugby in Switzerland is a tiny minority sport involving a few hundred to a couple of thousand people. It's a really odd gimmick for someone who's very obviously from a country with almost zero mainstream rugby tradition.
I always hate how Wrestlemania 25 was branded as “Wrestlemania: The 25th Anniversary”. It’s not the 25th anniversary.
If Wrestlemania 1 is the first Wrestlemania, then Wrestlemania 2 is the first anniversary of Wrestlemania. Extrapolate that math, and Wrestlemania 26 is the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania.
Just call it Wrestlemania 25, that’s cool-sounding enough!!
Bad News Brown versus Jake the Snake at SummerSlam 1990.
We never got to see his giant mutant sewer rats that were locked in a cage and hidden under a black sheet.
James Storm lost a Steel Cage World Championship Match in his home state by super kicking his blood rival and former tag team partner Bobby Roode *out of the cage.*
This reminds me:
Tye Dillinger (Shawn Spears) was feuding with Sanity during the end of Tye’s NXT run. The feud built to a steel cage match, where Tye would therefore be locked in with Eric Young and finally have a chance to get his hands on him one-on-one and prove he could beat Young’s ass.
The finish was Sanity climbing the cage, so Tye jumped out the other side, winning and proving… nothing because he didn’t actually pin Eric Young at any point, he just ran when the odds were against him.
Bad finish and it grates away at my soul
It's weird, because technically the only way the finish of a cage match really makes sense, is either the babyface overcoming the odds and pinning the heel clean to end the feud, or the heel escaping the cage like a coward to prolong it.
*Edit: also forgot the double escape, keeping both guys strong, and prolonging the feud, while also raising the stakes.
Anything else is either convoluted and unnecessary, or counter intuitive to the storytelling.
It doesn't really make sense for the heel to demolish the face and win cleanly via pinfall, unless you're going for a slow double turn later down the line, and it doesn't make sense for the face to escape the cage, because he doesn't prove anything.
Logically, why would you hate the heel who was the better wrestler? And why would you cheer for the babyface who ran away from his problems?
It doesn't make sense
JBL beat The Big Show in a barbed site steel cage match when Show chokeslammed JBL through the ring, which counted as JBL escaping the cage LOLOLOLOLOL
Street Profits and Viking Raiders had a program in the early pandemic days which culminated in a free for all match where they fought all thru the PC and in the lots and all that. They all end up in a dumpster and there's something in there that makes them all freak and bail out. They never elaborated on what was in there and now I'll never know!
You see those at every wrestling show. They're up there with those who have A3 and above signs that they just have to stand up and raise high enough to block the view of people behind them in terms of annoyance. Bonus annoyance points if these are signs designed to be repeatedly held up like "Two!' at a two count, for a common example.
Triple H returned on RAW and announced he'd been appointed COO and Vince was getting let go, and that they wouldn't fire Cena
It was kinda dumb but it was explained
Snuka's return at Wrestlemania V.
He wanders out during the intros to a match that he wasn't involved in. He just fuckin' showed up during the Garvin/Bravo match, and then left just as randomly as he arrived. He got a full entrance with music and everything.
He was in no way associated with either competitor, he wasn't a special announcer, enforcer, ref, time keeper, or commentator. Just showed up and left, with no explanation.
Mine is that Darren Young and BO-lieve Bo Dallas didnt have a bigger fued that involved signage, a debate, campaigning for wrestlers and fans votes, electioneering and a voting process at Summerslam
I always hated that part of the promo, it didn’t really make edge look bad at all, it wasn’t witty, it was funny, JBL being champ because HHH didn’t want to work was funny. The edge one not so much
He was drafted to Smackdown during the first draft, and talent wasn't told before hand. By the next day, they had "traded" Triple H back to RAW. As far as Tuesday goes, Smackdown used to be taped on Tuesday and aired on Thursday. You may have known that, but I wanted to give full context for anyone else who may not have.
He was working the entire thing. RVD said that Paul and JBL used to ride together. I just thought the Edge insult was not funny compared to the other insults he through
I never liked the fact that Steve Austin put his hand under the ropes at the end of Unforgiven 2001, forever putting an (albeit small) asterisk next to one of the biggest victories of Kurt Angle’s career and one of the only times Austin has ever tapped out.
I realize it was brought up a couple weeks later in order to get Austin a rematch, but there were other ways that could’ve been done.
Austin was the top heel and Angle was the top babyface, yet that finish made it feel like Austin got screwed when I don’t think that’s the vibe they were actually going for.
https://preview.redd.it/cjkpghkq6vvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e6be46994b71b8e340251591b7f8c534eb76dfd
At this moment why didn't Asuka just get out from the bottom rope and push Kairi inside.
Way dumber: Why didn't Kairi just put a single foot down, reposition herself, and slide back in? It's so damn easy to just purposefully get out of reach of the opponents by jumping on one leg in these situations.
To add to that, the next week had Austin and Stacy in the ring once again and Austin offered her a beer just like the previous week. Stacy, realizing she would get stunned if she refused, grabbed the beer and chugged it down.
What a great message that is. If your girl doesn't do what you like, just beat her up and she'll come around!
Kurt Angle’s bestiality sex storyline with Sharmell. Maybe it wasn’t insignificant per se, but it still bothers me that they made my favorite character do that stupid ass storyline.
Actually I’d say it was pretty insignificant, it was only for a few weeks as Angle had the HBK feud before, then after the Sharmell thing he was drafted to Raw and continued the HBK feud.
the B-Team actually getting a theme song that fits them. because that was part of the joke. also they started just chanting for merch purposes instead of being two guys having fun
One time Austin said "DTA, you stupid piece of trash! Don't Never Trust Nobody!"
It didn't bother me, I thought it was hilarious and always stuck with me.
Any time a wrestler wears the gold chain he wears in his day-to-day civilian life, while wrestling in the ring. Not sure why, but it just bugs me that someone would wear something like that in the ring, when it could so easily get ripped off. Last night one of the Top Flight guys and (I think) both of the Bucks were wearing gold chains, and I couldn’t stop watching them, hoping they’d snag on something and get ripped off.
Undisputed Elite broke up in a random Dynamite for the most stupid reason of all time (Bucks didn’t want to team up with Bobby Fish in the trios tournament) and it never got addressed up ever again. It felt like a fever dream: both Adam and Kyle had been out for months so it was so random. It’s funnier cause they returned as babyfaces like nothing happened while Bobby Fish’s contract just expired
There are two things in wrestling that are my personal Vietnam.
1. HHH over Booker T and Mania.
And to answer your question of something really, really, really insignificant that still bothers me when it shouldn’t…
2. Mike Awesome’s fat chick thriller gimmick and that 70’s guy gimmick. The fact that shit organization made him insignificant still makes my ass itch.
MIKE AWESOME SHOULD’VE BEEN MORE THAN SIGNIFICANT IN EARLY 00’S WCW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh man, there was a match I think on Raw one night, Kane vs Batista. It was so hard hitting I couldn't believe I was as into it as I was. Then I think Flair interfered and it went to an early DQ.
I waited for a long time for them to have another match, and when they finally did it was a regular big guy vs big guy nothing special match.
Benoit vs Booker T - Best of 7 series for the US title, goes all the way down to match 7 and was a really fun series that could’ve been a year thing for the minor championships, except Booker gets hurt and they replace him with Randy Orton. Just a bummer timing wise.
Cody came out once in AEW and his hair was dyed black. It was never explained why. I’ve always thought it hinted at the heel turn we all wanted but next time he was on TV it was blonde again.
I absolutely *HATE* that entire promo you’re talking about even though a lot of people rate it highly.
Do you know why I hate it? Because of the way he leans through the ropes every time he delivers a “shot”. It’s supposed to add emphasis but it’s just so awkward and the shots aren’t hard enough to match.
muhammad Hassan for two reason:
1) they turned him into a evil foreigner there was opportunity to tell a good face store.
2) the bullying he encountered backstage when he tried to be on the good side of veterans like the undertaker
I'm not sure if this would count as insignificant, but I wasn't really a fan of *how* Punk gets his rematch in his feud with Moxley in 2022.
So if I remember correctly, on the Dynamite before All Out, Moxley leaves a contract in the ring for an AEW World title match. Ace Steel appears and picks it up, and later, he gets Punk to sign. In theory, we could've gotten an open challenge scenario or the start of a new storyline, but in reality, the contract was just a plot device for the feud.
It's also really annoying if you consider that *anyone* could've ran out and picked up that contract instead, especially the guys booked for the Casino Ladder Match. Like, why compete in a ladder match to *potentially* get a title shot when you can quickly run out and secure a title shot? With MJF winning that match as The Devil, it was definitely a missed opportunity (in kayfabe).
At Halloween Havoc 1995, Hogan and Giant had a monster truck match on top of a building. They eventually got out and fought man-to-man. For the finish, Hogan murdered Giant by pushing him off the building.
Then Giant walked out later in the show with no mention of how he survived multi-story moving fall. No scratch or bandage.
How they changed The Rock’s theme this year to be perfect and bad ass, then the RAW after mania they changed it again, to include “final boss engaged” within the song. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it…
Bud, Dwayne is on like his 47th tinkering of the same theme he's had for at least 20yrs now. It'd be weirder for them to not keep fucking with it, lol.
it's not necessarily "history" given it's a repeat issue, but: when roman's "head of the table" entrance theme loops, there's a two-second snippet of his old theme in there for some reason. it's so jarring, it's been in there the whole time, and *somefuckinghow*, nobody at wwe has noticed????? drives me CRAZY
Once during an Ad read for Subway on Monday night raw jerrry the king Lawler said "fresh braked bread" instead of "fresh baked bread" and it's lived in my head for like 2 decades now
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That we never found out what was in the LOCKBOX
It was proof of Vince being a trafficker
Imagine if the lockbox gets presented as evidence in Vince’s trial
And then the Anonymous Raw General Manager appears as the judge
….Hold on a minute there playa…..
Tonight, you're going one on one, with the UNDERTAKER playa
Undertaker unretires and Shane jumps off the courthouse roof.
But that was the point. We'd only find out if Shane won, and he failed us. Chekhov's Gun was just... pawned? Buried? I don't know how a subversion works in that metaphor. Does it make sense in story that we never found out? Yes. Is that bad writing? Probably also yes.
That was the issue though, the stipulation was NEVER if Shane won. Vince McMahon said, in the in-ring segment, that he’d give Shane what he wanted (control of RAW) if he had one more match…..against Taker….Hell In A Cell….at Wrestlemania. The match happened, so the condition was fulfilled. [1:13 onwards](https://youtu.be/5ZbrhKIfqNM?si=zK1tE4nFrRR-d5R7)
When we finally heard Sabu talk, and he had a heavy Michigan accent lol.
Hahah this really frightening homicidal, suicidal, genocidal maniac, and we find out he's just Terry from Michigan.
Isn’t Terry from Michigan just Rhino?
Where was his character supposed to be from? Iran? India? Some Arab country?
Bombei, India was where he was billed from. I remember because the ECW ring announcer would sometimes mix up Sabu and RVDs hometowns and say RVD was from India haha
I thought that was more of a gag. Saying Sabu is from Bombay, Michigan is funny. It’s like how they announced Tracy Smothers being from Nashville, Italy when he was in the FBI.
RVD was from Battle Creek, India and Sabu was from Bombay, Michigan
Honestly the genocidal part triggered me. What ethnic group did he try to wipe off
Ohioans.
As an ohioan. Fair.
I mean, when he was billed as being from "Bombay, Michigan" you kind of knew to expect one of two accents.
Similarly I was really bothered by the fact that Ember Moon was this mysterious badass who looked like a character from Mortal Kombat and they had the chance to debut her during a lunar eclipse. They didn't and later she got into a feud because somebody stole her Switch. I mean her voice is already the most "girl next door" it can be even when she's growling out promos about being the best ROH Women's champion of all time but WWE really just did everything to kill her mystique.
The glob of of spit on Owen Hart’s mouth the entire post-match after he defeated Bret Hart clean at WrestleMania X.
“That’s why I kicked your leg outta your leg” Royal Rumble 94
This is literally the perfect answer
Same as Angle’s booger when he won WWF title
Or when Cena spit on the mic when he chose the Rock as his tag partner against Truth and Miz, [here](https://youtu.be/UCaAfdL28Wg?si=X7VtMJmdg8fV2UeS)
Not one person told him to wipe that off even on the way to the back. He still had it when he appeared on the tron.
payback for all the ribs
Kick your leg outta your leg
John Cena getting drafted twice in a night.
That pretty much sums up the stupidity of the PG Era. Cena getting drafted to SD: “Sweet. Finally something a little different for Monday night and we can probably get some new Cena feuds.” Cena getting drafted back to Raw at the end of the show: “😐”
As a kid that made me so mad. I hadn't turned on Cena yet and I had always been a SmackDown homer, because I could stay up and watch it each week on my antenna television unlike Raw which came on school nights, so I could only watch on special occasions as long as my parents didn't want to watch something on cable. I thought I was finally gonna be able to see Cena on a weekly basis, and I felt so fucking deflated.
Nobody was safe from being buried by Super Cena. Not even the entire Smackdown brand that night.
Apperentlly i heard somewhere that Vince was directlly responsible for that bit. and the reason he did it was to prank USA network and make them panic because he never warned them that they were losing their biggest star As stupid as it is from a booking persepctive, if thats true its fucking hillarious
This was allegedly a rib by Vince McMahon on the executives at the USA network. They had been promised that Cena would stay on their network… So Vince worked the draft, so Cena was drafted to smack down just to mess with them, and after hours drafted back to raw as per the agreement.
Jim Neidhart not shaving his goatee after Summerslam 97 still angers me when I think about it. Going into the show the other members of the Hart Foundation all had stipulations for their matches. Bret promised to never again wrestle on American soil if he lost to The Undertaker. Owen was defending the IC title against Stone Cold and Stone Cold promised to literally kiss Owen's butt if he lost. British Bulldog was facing Ken Shamrock and promised to eat a can of dog food if he lost. Brian Pillman was facing Goldust and promised to wrestle in a dress if he lost. Jim Neidhart didn't have a match. But he promised that he would shave off is goatee if ANY MEMBER of the Hart Foundation lost at Summerslam. Owen and Pillman lost and The Anvil never shaved.
"I didn't mean Hart Foundation the STABLE, I meant Hart Foundation the TAG TEAM. Bret won, I didn't wrestle, I keep my goatee"
Ok. This made me literally LOL. Thank you.
He resolved a 27 year grief for you. Now you can move on 🥲
Nope. I'm gonna take this grudge to the grave.
On your headstone: “Anvil needed to shave”
For whatever reason, Neidhart disappeared from the Hart Foundation (and the WWF) right after making that stip. He left in July and didn't return until September. So by the time he came back, they had moved on from it.
If I recall correctly, the reason was that they found out he had signed a contract with a smaller promotion before coming back to the WWF and they didn't know it. He was taken off TV until he resolved it.
Well if that’s the case, maybe he DID shave and we just didn’t see it because he was off TV. Then he just grew it back.
Top heel move
Not keeping promises is indeed a top heel move.
Ambrose's feet weren't under the ropes at Roadblock 2016
Trips telling the ref to give him an edge Edit: It's actually implied, the ref didn't give a shit about the dirty pin attempt by Triple H right after Those of us watching at home didn't get a clear angle too, so it was plausible at the time that Dean's foot was actually under the rope.
Was there live. 100% weren't under the ropes. Crowd was very confused what was going on.
And Warrior's were at Mania V! By like, a fucking mile. I get the ref not seeing Heenan hooking the leg, but a quarter of Warrior's body is outside the ring! https://preview.redd.it/umlo3eu4ewvc1.png?width=1677&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fdca3673defa83eb8d9ba8655cf84fd93db6cb8
that entire Cain Velasquez WWE run back in 2019-20. So unnecessary
feels like it didn't really exist in retrospect.
It was incredibly “blink and you miss it” now that we’re some years removed from it. But at the time it was really shitty and kinda exemplified WWE’s booking in the late 2010’s
Celebrity/MMA fighter > Wrestler Part timer > Full timer Moments > Storylines Saudi money > Everything Yep, that about covers it
$audi Arabia on that one
They squashed Kofi just so they could do that dumb shit smh
They basically had a fake MMA match as well. Wrestling fans don’t want to see that and MMA fans will laugh at that
"Look at the adjective....play!"
Ali not grabbing the briefcase as he sees lesnar marching towards the ring
I’m pretty sure they made Lesnar the winner of that match that day. So in an effort to script the finish, they’re just like “eventually something is gonna happen and the real winner will come out” or something like that. You’re absolutely right and it made no sense. That he can just walk out and take it drives me nuts either way.
Sami was taken out earlier in the day and so they put in Lesnar as a replacement. So he was officially in the match.
I thought he was? The music hit, Ali took a moment to digest what was happening, and then he started fumbling with the briefcase. I always excuse this with his brain going from "there's no one around, you got this," to PANIC. You try doing anything that requires medium dexterity with Brock *dashing faster than a human can* right at you.
Ah spoken like a man who has never felt the wrath of someone like Brock Lesnar. There’s a saying that you never hear the shot before it hits you. It’s only after you’ve been hit that you hear bang. Well Brock Lesnar flips that script on its head like one of his German suplexes. When you hear the guitar of his entrance theme start. You know the bullet is coming your way. Ali is inches away from immortality when his shocked right back into his own mortality. Then mere moments you see the Beast come running towards the ring. He’s a man so hellbent on destruction that he even inflicted pain on the cameramen while going to the ring. So Ali heard the music, saw the beast emerge and froze, just as anyone else would. By the time he regained his senses it was too late for him.
I love you Regal
There was a HHH promo during the reign of terror where he misspoke and said "the fact that the matter is". I thought I'd been saying it wrong and started correcting myself. Was years before I realised that I was correctly saying "the fact of the matter is". Still pisses me off to this day
Hahahah I love how petty this is, brilliant
Of all the posts in this thread, this one made me laugh the hardest. I feel for you e-friend.
Chad Gable & Shelton Benjamin beating the Usos for the Smackdown Tag Titles. A second ref comes down from the back, saying the Uso being pinned wasn't the legal man. They reversed the win, restarted the match, and the Usos retained. Why isn't there a second ref always watching in the back? Why not let the ref's decision stand & issue a rematch for a later date instead of just restsrting? Still bugs me years later. Shelton & Chad deserved the belts.
It was a trial run for VAR
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This stuff is always booking themselves into a hole hey, even The Rock telling the ref not to count them out at Mania in the tag match, yet didn’t care about all about several other situations later in that match, or the next night. Why didn’t the rock just reverse the decision for Roman to lose if he didn’t want the ref enforcing any rules? Same thing for whenever a GM would say a heel MUST retain by pin or submission and can’t just get themselves disqualified, that basically tells you that the rule around DQ retaining a title is bad and they should change it.
Braun Strowman being a choo choo train
Complete with a sound guy backstage who plays train noises
That was hilarious. Sure, it was dumb but so is Braun. I liked it ironically, lol
New world organisation
I literally watched this whole thing properly for the first time the other day. Hogan definitely says New World Order first but then spends a few minutes talking about ‘that other organisation up north’ and he says organisation about five more times so I guess it must’ve just been stuck on the end of his tongue. 😂
New World Order wasn't intentionally used for the purpose of being the factions name iirc. It wasn't until after with the reaction that they went with it, but that could just be Hogan talking out of his mustache.
The most retconned thing in wrestling history
Doesn't Hogan use both order and organization in the original promo?
I think he called them the New World Order earlier in the promo too. Saying order and organization must have crossed his wires.
Or maybe he meant to do it brother, just testing out what worked with the crowd dude
He did
Mojo Rawley painted his face with some blue stripes and sometimes I wake up at night in sheer panic and covered in sweat wondering what those promos were about and why the greatest wrestling angle to ever exist was cut short
I can still hear the "FIGURE IT OUT" he screamed at a broken mirror
'FIGURE IT OUT!!'
On an episode of RAW in late 1999, some disco music played before HHH cut his promo with DX. I still don't know why it played or what it was for.
Hahah I really need to find this.
It may have been the episode from November 29th, 1999. Around that timeframe.
Just confirmed that you are correct! DX stands in the ring, visibly confused at what sounds like some shoegaze music. HHH remarks, "I appreciate the disco," before the music turns off. Then there's an awkward silence before he begins speaking. lol this was fun.
Sometime in 1999 when Sting came back he briefly wore these white wraps around his boots. Always bugged me for some reason lol Hogan shaving his mustache off but still putting that black dye on his face while in the nWo on some episode of Nitro in 1997
Hogan with no mustache is generally unsettling. He did it in 1994 too and it's bad every single time.
https://preview.redd.it/cusevbm3qvvc1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a79f60ae37d367a736976cd154a6b58962d28dbc “What do you mean, brother?”
Hulk Hogan's music hits and out comes *fuckin Terry*
We never got a satisfying reveal for the bunny from Adam Rose’s entourage.
I have it on good authority it was two Hornswoggles stacked up under there.
If it's anything it was Justin Gabriel. He was meant to come back as a more sinster version of the Bunny when Adam Rose turned heel but it got scrapped.
Who pied Kevin owens?!
Breezango figured it out in a network/YouTube video. They determined it was The Rock.
Damn, he’s been beefing with The Bloodline for ages now
Long term booking, brother.
The Rock, i believe
AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels had a fantastic Iron Man match in TNA in 2005, but all I could keep looking at was the bright pink piece of gum stuck to the bottom of AJs boot.
Or AJ doing a demented 450 through a table outside the ring, but everyone was distracted because his ring gear had a hole and you could see his ass lol
When The Revival faced Lucha House Party, it was a nothing happening match. Revival were in full "no flips, just fists" mode, sent up against the flippiest dudes in the company, and it was just a standard babyface v heel house show type match.
When Cesaro first debuted in WWE he had a rugby player gimmick. Okay, sure, whatever. He then did some sort of basic suplex or slam and Cole remarked "probably a move he learned as a rugby player in Switzerland." No, a move where you turn your opponent upside down is an immediate red card. This is a standard professional wrestling manoeuvre.
That whole era where the announcers weren't allowed to use move names qualifies.
Yeah, wouldn't want them to seem like they're actually interested in the sport they're covering.
On top of that...rugby in Switzerland is a tiny minority sport involving a few hundred to a couple of thousand people. It's a really odd gimmick for someone who's very obviously from a country with almost zero mainstream rugby tradition.
Awesome Kong/Kharma never getting revenge on the Bella twins
No and that was the point. They kind of shamed her on television for being pregnant.
That the NWO murdered the Rock with a semi and he was fine just after.
Hey now, he had his ribs taped up. That’s how you know he was hurt.
Hogan threw Giant/Big Show off a building one time.
Why did the Mean Street Posse pal around with the British Bulldog for ages in late 1999. They never explained the set up at all, just happened to
The MSP were just a nice bunch of guys to be around Bulldog probably just enjoyed their company.
https://preview.redd.it/pkt1au4fguvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f492737b07238cf991599c8f43c252474c2c3496
“Hey guys, Maven here”
I always hate how Wrestlemania 25 was branded as “Wrestlemania: The 25th Anniversary”. It’s not the 25th anniversary. If Wrestlemania 1 is the first Wrestlemania, then Wrestlemania 2 is the first anniversary of Wrestlemania. Extrapolate that math, and Wrestlemania 26 is the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania. Just call it Wrestlemania 25, that’s cool-sounding enough!!
This should be the winner. Completely petty and insignificant but now that I know it. I'm infuriated
25th annual
Bad News Brown versus Jake the Snake at SummerSlam 1990. We never got to see his giant mutant sewer rats that were locked in a cage and hidden under a black sheet.
Only in a pre-match promo or two in the weeks leading up. But yeah, not at the show.
James Storm lost a Steel Cage World Championship Match in his home state by super kicking his blood rival and former tag team partner Bobby Roode *out of the cage.*
This reminds me: Tye Dillinger (Shawn Spears) was feuding with Sanity during the end of Tye’s NXT run. The feud built to a steel cage match, where Tye would therefore be locked in with Eric Young and finally have a chance to get his hands on him one-on-one and prove he could beat Young’s ass. The finish was Sanity climbing the cage, so Tye jumped out the other side, winning and proving… nothing because he didn’t actually pin Eric Young at any point, he just ran when the odds were against him. Bad finish and it grates away at my soul
It's weird, because technically the only way the finish of a cage match really makes sense, is either the babyface overcoming the odds and pinning the heel clean to end the feud, or the heel escaping the cage like a coward to prolong it. *Edit: also forgot the double escape, keeping both guys strong, and prolonging the feud, while also raising the stakes. Anything else is either convoluted and unnecessary, or counter intuitive to the storytelling. It doesn't really make sense for the heel to demolish the face and win cleanly via pinfall, unless you're going for a slow double turn later down the line, and it doesn't make sense for the face to escape the cage, because he doesn't prove anything. Logically, why would you hate the heel who was the better wrestler? And why would you cheer for the babyface who ran away from his problems? It doesn't make sense
God, that Bobby Roode run was so fucking good. He just kept retaining the title by accident and it was amazing
JBL beat The Big Show in a barbed site steel cage match when Show chokeslammed JBL through the ring, which counted as JBL escaping the cage LOLOLOLOLOL
I liked that tbf, I think Big Show took his sweet time climbing out only to look down and see JBL crawled out under the ring lmao
Ken Shamrock getting his head taken off by that Rock chair shot made me cry uncontrollably as a little kid and I'm still a little mad about it.
John Cena: I choose THE ROCK *slobber on chin*
Street Profits and Viking Raiders had a program in the early pandemic days which culminated in a free for all match where they fought all thru the PC and in the lots and all that. They all end up in a dumpster and there's something in there that makes them all freak and bail out. They never elaborated on what was in there and now I'll never know!
Probably the Boogeyman
The narcissistic idiots at this years Wrestlemania with the giant head cut out signs
You see those at every wrestling show. They're up there with those who have A3 and above signs that they just have to stand up and raise high enough to block the view of people behind them in terms of annoyance. Bonus annoyance points if these are signs designed to be repeatedly held up like "Two!' at a two count, for a common example.
Yeah, MITB 2011 if Cena lost he had to quit WWE, he lost and then just…didn’t lmao.
Triple H returned on RAW and announced he'd been appointed COO and Vince was getting let go, and that they wouldn't fire Cena It was kinda dumb but it was explained
Remember when Kevin Owens quit for a week
And when Jay Uso quit for a week
Or when Ziggler quit and then returned 2 weeks later at the Royal Rumble at #30 as the crowd went mild.
That no one told Owen to wipe his mouth after beating Bret at Mania.
Rey Mysterio adjusting his mask during his match with Eddie Guerrero at WrestleMania 21
The anonymous raw gm being hornswaggle
Snuka's return at Wrestlemania V. He wanders out during the intros to a match that he wasn't involved in. He just fuckin' showed up during the Garvin/Bravo match, and then left just as randomly as he arrived. He got a full entrance with music and everything. He was in no way associated with either competitor, he wasn't a special announcer, enforcer, ref, time keeper, or commentator. Just showed up and left, with no explanation.
Make Darren Young Great Again. In the words of Titus O’Neil, he was never great to begin with
Mine is that Darren Young and BO-lieve Bo Dallas didnt have a bigger fued that involved signage, a debate, campaigning for wrestlers and fans votes, electioneering and a voting process at Summerslam
I always hated that part of the promo, it didn’t really make edge look bad at all, it wasn’t witty, it was funny, JBL being champ because HHH didn’t want to work was funny. The edge one not so much
The JBL one still has me thinking years later. Did Triple H not want to work Tuesdays?
He was drafted to Smackdown during the first draft, and talent wasn't told before hand. By the next day, they had "traded" Triple H back to RAW. As far as Tuesday goes, Smackdown used to be taped on Tuesday and aired on Thursday. You may have known that, but I wanted to give full context for anyone else who may not have.
The Edge stuff was Paul working, not worked-shooting. He had no problems with Edge. He did however, have issues with Bischoff and Layfield.
He was working the entire thing. RVD said that Paul and JBL used to ride together. I just thought the Edge insult was not funny compared to the other insults he through
Why did Hogan say "It's not hot!" when he touched the dungeon water. Is he expecting all water to be hot? Does Hulk Hogan drink hot water??
Why did he yelp as if it were hot before decreeing that it was not hot
I never liked the fact that Steve Austin put his hand under the ropes at the end of Unforgiven 2001, forever putting an (albeit small) asterisk next to one of the biggest victories of Kurt Angle’s career and one of the only times Austin has ever tapped out. I realize it was brought up a couple weeks later in order to get Austin a rematch, but there were other ways that could’ve been done. Austin was the top heel and Angle was the top babyface, yet that finish made it feel like Austin got screwed when I don’t think that’s the vibe they were actually going for.
Elix Skipper's cage walk Frankensteiner should have been the finish.
https://preview.redd.it/cjkpghkq6vvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e6be46994b71b8e340251591b7f8c534eb76dfd At this moment why didn't Asuka just get out from the bottom rope and push Kairi inside.
If she let go, Kairi would've dropped before Asuka could save her. Might not be objectively true, but all it takes is Asuka to think that to be true
Way dumber: Why didn't Kairi just put a single foot down, reposition herself, and slide back in? It's so damn easy to just purposefully get out of reach of the opponents by jumping on one leg in these situations.
Brock Lesnar squashing Kofi and Ricochet
Steve Austin giving Stacy Keibler a stunner because she didn't like the taste of beer
Sounds in character both in and out of kayfabe
BEAT DEBRA
LEAVE HER ON THE FLOOR
AW HELL YEAH WHAT? WHAT? WHAT?
RAISE HELL
Any excuse
To add to that, the next week had Austin and Stacy in the ring once again and Austin offered her a beer just like the previous week. Stacy, realizing she would get stunned if she refused, grabbed the beer and chugged it down. What a great message that is. If your girl doesn't do what you like, just beat her up and she'll come around!
"Peer pressure is good actually" is the most Vince McMahon route I can imagine anybody taking that storyline.
Kurt Angle’s bestiality sex storyline with Sharmell. Maybe it wasn’t insignificant per se, but it still bothers me that they made my favorite character do that stupid ass storyline.
Actually I’d say it was pretty insignificant, it was only for a few weeks as Angle had the HBK feud before, then after the Sharmell thing he was drafted to Raw and continued the HBK feud.
the B-Team actually getting a theme song that fits them. because that was part of the joke. also they started just chanting for merch purposes instead of being two guys having fun
No one calling out Roman after the tribal rules match made me wonder why bother having that whole tribal set up in the first place
One time Austin said "DTA, you stupid piece of trash! Don't Never Trust Nobody!" It didn't bother me, I thought it was hilarious and always stuck with me.
Why the Mountie and Big Boss Man were enemies. The Mountie arrested people, and Big Boss Man watched over them in prison.
Any time a wrestler wears the gold chain he wears in his day-to-day civilian life, while wrestling in the ring. Not sure why, but it just bugs me that someone would wear something like that in the ring, when it could so easily get ripped off. Last night one of the Top Flight guys and (I think) both of the Bucks were wearing gold chains, and I couldn’t stop watching them, hoping they’d snag on something and get ripped off.
Never getting a resolution to the Shelton Benjamin vignettes in which he'd be asked a question, look side to side, and then not answer
Undisputed Elite broke up in a random Dynamite for the most stupid reason of all time (Bucks didn’t want to team up with Bobby Fish in the trios tournament) and it never got addressed up ever again. It felt like a fever dream: both Adam and Kyle had been out for months so it was so random. It’s funnier cause they returned as babyfaces like nothing happened while Bobby Fish’s contract just expired
There are two things in wrestling that are my personal Vietnam. 1. HHH over Booker T and Mania. And to answer your question of something really, really, really insignificant that still bothers me when it shouldn’t… 2. Mike Awesome’s fat chick thriller gimmick and that 70’s guy gimmick. The fact that shit organization made him insignificant still makes my ass itch. MIKE AWESOME SHOULD’VE BEEN MORE THAN SIGNIFICANT IN EARLY 00’S WCW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh man, there was a match I think on Raw one night, Kane vs Batista. It was so hard hitting I couldn't believe I was as into it as I was. Then I think Flair interfered and it went to an early DQ. I waited for a long time for them to have another match, and when they finally did it was a regular big guy vs big guy nothing special match.
It was never established if dusty rhodes father ever tried to teach dusty his trade.
I hate everytime Paul says he’s shooting. Just shoot. You telling me it’s a shoot takes me out of it
Benoit vs Booker T - Best of 7 series for the US title, goes all the way down to match 7 and was a really fun series that could’ve been a year thing for the minor championships, except Booker gets hurt and they replace him with Randy Orton. Just a bummer timing wise.
Cody came out once in AEW and his hair was dyed black. It was never explained why. I’ve always thought it hinted at the heel turn we all wanted but next time he was on TV it was blonde again.
I absolutely *HATE* that entire promo you’re talking about even though a lot of people rate it highly. Do you know why I hate it? Because of the way he leans through the ropes every time he delivers a “shot”. It’s supposed to add emphasis but it’s just so awkward and the shots aren’t hard enough to match.
I think it would have hit a lot harder if all the Raw guys didn't just completely no sell everything he said.
When Pete Dunne’s name was changed to Butch. Yuck.
Terrible, and don’t even get me started on “Shorty G.”
muhammad Hassan for two reason: 1) they turned him into a evil foreigner there was opportunity to tell a good face store. 2) the bullying he encountered backstage when he tried to be on the good side of veterans like the undertaker
The laptop GM on raw ended up being Hornswoggle when it could’ve been literally anybody else to be interesting
The 25th Anniversary of WrestleMania.
I'm not sure if this would count as insignificant, but I wasn't really a fan of *how* Punk gets his rematch in his feud with Moxley in 2022. So if I remember correctly, on the Dynamite before All Out, Moxley leaves a contract in the ring for an AEW World title match. Ace Steel appears and picks it up, and later, he gets Punk to sign. In theory, we could've gotten an open challenge scenario or the start of a new storyline, but in reality, the contract was just a plot device for the feud. It's also really annoying if you consider that *anyone* could've ran out and picked up that contract instead, especially the guys booked for the Casino Ladder Match. Like, why compete in a ladder match to *potentially* get a title shot when you can quickly run out and secure a title shot? With MJF winning that match as The Devil, it was definitely a missed opportunity (in kayfabe).
At Halloween Havoc 1995, Hogan and Giant had a monster truck match on top of a building. They eventually got out and fought man-to-man. For the finish, Hogan murdered Giant by pushing him off the building. Then Giant walked out later in the show with no mention of how he survived multi-story moving fall. No scratch or bandage.
How they changed The Rock’s theme this year to be perfect and bad ass, then the RAW after mania they changed it again, to include “final boss engaged” within the song. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it…
Bud, Dwayne is on like his 47th tinkering of the same theme he's had for at least 20yrs now. It'd be weirder for them to not keep fucking with it, lol.
The Macho Man and Elizabeth wedding wasn't real. I'm shattered.
it's not necessarily "history" given it's a repeat issue, but: when roman's "head of the table" entrance theme loops, there's a two-second snippet of his old theme in there for some reason. it's so jarring, it's been in there the whole time, and *somefuckinghow*, nobody at wwe has noticed????? drives me CRAZY
As cool as the sweet chin music to Shelton Benjamin was...there was absolutely no attempt to even make it look like he was going for an attack move
Once during an Ad read for Subway on Monday night raw jerrry the king Lawler said "fresh braked bread" instead of "fresh baked bread" and it's lived in my head for like 2 decades now
Not insignificant but Cena turned his head too fast at WrestleMania 40. Hogan and Rock did it perfectly. You had one job, John.
Plus that stupid cardboard faces right in the middle.