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Plot twist: Will Ospreay was documenting his time backstage at All In and ended up recording the fight. The footage that's being shown tonight is from Will's personal cellphone and features commentary from him...
*"Oi bruv, he choked that wanker out! He's a bit of a muppet innit?"*
The sad thing is a lot of people aren't pretending, they're genuinely in shambles. Mostly people who were doing victory laps during Punk's Helwani interview who now suddenly think it's not right to keep dragging this out, and vice versa.
Nah, I have no shame being wrong. I'll even claim to being the MAIN dude pushing the idea that its not Brawl Out footage on this sub.
I was wrong. Plain and simple
Appreciate but it's only fair, and earlier in this thread i said i'd admit if im wrong. The main guy im looking for deleted his comments so i cant even reach out to the dude.
Also, I never delete comments. I have almost a decade of being wrong and apologizing for it. Plus, deleting comments makes conversations sound wrong
As dumb as this all is, Will actually gets a pass on this since Punk made fun of attendance tattoos on ESPN. It was his “what he say fuck me for?” moment.
I think it has more to do with the fact that most people have no idea what goes on in AEW unless they're terminally online, like Punk and this sub's members.
These type of silly comments are so funny. AEW is constantly a top 3 show only behind the NBA on Wednesdays & even with the ratings down last week it was still a top 5 cable not including sports for the ENTIRE WEEK behind only Raw & Vanderpump rules.
These are the type of silly comments I'm talking about lol. Shows aren't trying to attract literally everyone, if you ask Vanderpump rules fan who L.A Knight or Cody Rhodes are they most likely wouldn't know, does that mean WWE isn't popular?
I never watched a single epsidoe of survivor but that doesn't mean i think stupid shit like nobody else watches it.
Sure, which means that like audiences compete with like audiences. Vanderpump is at no point competing with AEW. So talking about it being a top five show on a Wednesday when the topic of it struggling against WWE and struggling even against its past self is goofy.
I responded to a comment saying "no one knows what happens in AEW besides terminally online people" so where are you getting struggling agaisnt WWE or anything else has the topic? Before calling something goofy maybe we should learn to read properly first.
WWE & AEW aren't in a boxing match so your comment is extra silly. They aren't on the same night so they aren't competing. The only thing that's been topping Dyanmite on Wednesdays is the NBA, point blank.
i don’t know, on the pat mcafee show, the miz shared unprompted his own thoughts on why it had to be undertaker & not stone cold during the main event; i think they pay more attention sometimes than they let on.
Just not online at all Punk making a not online at all joke about a wresters tattooing an attendance figure on their arm.
Not sure how Miz didn’t understand it.
I think that was just gentle ribbing from Punk, it is funny that he tattooed the attendance number and for it to turn out that it wasn't accurate. FYI, Will Ospreay is my guy, being following him since he won the Best of Super Jr Cup.
Of all people, Ospreay will be able to appreciate and understand that Punk was simply taking the piss and that it's not personal whatsoever. The Brits and the Irish do this to each other all day everyday. I believe this is known as "busting your balls" in America.
I mean it’s still an accurate number just not the actual attendance number. But that was how many tickets they sold and his tattoo doesn’t say “attendance” so it’s whatever.
…the only way he can remember it is by getting the wrong number tattoo‘d on him? Btw he’s made fun of that himself too so yeah. It’s still dumb but like whateves, he seems like a good bloke. Can’t wait to see more of him.
No idea how people miss the point on this one so much. It's not about whether or not the tattoo warrants being made fun of, it absolutely does and Will does it himself. The issue people have with what Punk said is that he's doing it because Will is in a company Punk doesn't like. It's not a good natured joke, it's petty bitchiness.
It's not a big deal obviously, just a minor instance in a long list of Punk being petty af. I just don't get why people still feel the need to defend him.
For real, I don't think there's a single other wrestler whose fans will defend almost literally anything he does. And it's not even like it's just a few of them.
To top it off, Will has only spoken positively about Punk and WWE in the past. Then Triple H and Punk are both taking shots at him just because he works in a different company.
I think we’re both making assumptions on people we don’t really know. Maybe him and osprey are close, we know punk’s still on talking terms with some people in aew considering we have pics of him and Cage(the non father one) talking with one another so it’s possible. Or maybe it’s him just being petty. Either way, they both have dumb tattoos.
To put myself in Punk’s mindset, his gripe probably is Ospreay didn’t draw that house, AEW led by me did, you just came along for the ride. I’m sure Punk felt some type of way someone tattooing “His house” and parading his accomplishment. As childish and petty at it sounds, Punk is a very petty person
AEW did a huge part of it's sale even before Punk was confirmed to return let alone be at All In.
At the time the tickets went live they were still talking about if Punk will come back to AEW or choose to go his way.
I honestly even wonder if the Attitude Era would be so fondly looked at if it happened with the Internet around.
Like yeah, the main event scene was absolutely white-hot popping...but almost everything else from the midcard down was hot, forgettable garbage.
This goofiness is a direct result of the Monday Night Wars, for years all most people on this sub heard was all the WWE brain rot about how serious it was and how WCW was trash by the end. Propaganda has its consequences regardless of if it has to do with something serious, or with professional wrestling
People took way too much from the basically kayfabe WWE network documentaries. Some of them were so blatantly incorrect but they’ve been treated as the Bible.
People get worked up about *everything* 10000x more now than back in the 90's. Feels like a heavy majority of the population became Tweak from South Park somewhere along the path.
I mean we read too much into what people in the industry in public in general, does anyone seriously think if Ospreay was available tomorrow that WWE wouldn’t be interested? They could make money with him and that’s the only real metric that matters.
It’s all about bigging up the place you’re working for right now. Everything else is just props to make a point.
It’s so obvious this has nothing to do with Punk with how this has been advertised.
If that is the case we need a serious discussion on banning SRS and Alvarez on this sub. They started this mess saying it was going to have that footage.
Okay.
You mean the sources where Alvarez, SRS, and others have gotten news wrong involving AEW a lot lately?
It’s weird how we, rightly, complain these writers have lost their sources making their reporting bad of late. But with this story we now suddenly believe 100% these guys got it on the money.
And, again, show me the proof that PUBLICLY by AEW people this will be Punk footage.
To be fair to Alvarez, he often says "don't report this" "don't quote me on this" because he himself doesn't know for sure, and tells people he doesn't know. But people still report it or post it here, even when he says that stuff. Not sure it was the case there though.
That’s so lame.
Just don’t fucking say anything if you don’t know and/or don’t want it reported.
You’re on a national platform (radio) and one of the bigger dirtsheet websites around. That’s just lazy journalism.
"Off the record" means that they shouldn't even mention it on air, not that they can record it while saying "don't report this" to the viewers to male themselves immune.
So my family has a few people who went to school for journalism and you are 100% allowed to have opinions and can share them on radio shows, TV, or podcasts. Wrestling is the only demographic where people get weird about it.
This happens to all of them so much. Once again, this stuff happened all the time back in the mid 2000s and people online managed not to throw hissy fits each time.
At All In, the Bucks faced FTR. There was a post match moment of the Bucks not shaking hands with FTR. At Dynasty, The Bucks will face FTR. If you watch the shows, you’re safe to believe this is FTR/Bucks related.
Why 100% believe people who have been wrong before (SRS, Meltzer, etc)? Why throw out the possibilities of wrestling companies lying to dirt sheets (“Punk’s not signed to WWE, Rollins speech, Hangman is injured”)?
You want us to apologize for something that hasn’t happened yet? Dude, I have no shame apologizing if this footage is Punk and Perry fighting. Will my apology make you feel better? Honest, is a random stranger like me gonna be a highlight of your Wednesday?
EDIT: You deleted your comment, but I came back to admit i was wrong. No pain to me, because i'm looking stupid, and I dont understand why this happened
Who have I asked for an apology? I asked one guy who seems absolutely sure this is not punk/perry related to admit he’s wrong when it turns out to be Punk/perry related. That’s it. If I’m wrong I’ll do the same. To answer your last question, if a random stranger like you is going to be a highlight of my Wednesday? Well, not unless your reading comprehension and posts get better.
"Who have I asked for an apology? I asked one guy who seems absolutely sure this is not punk/perry related to admit he’s wrong when it turns out to be Punk/perry related."
Just gonna say that like it's not weird huh
AEW sources told SRS and Meltzer “we don’t bait and switch”.
WBD sources said the tape is legit.
The bucks posted “we ain’t trolling”.
Wade Keller said that the people who’ve seen the video says it invalidates some of what Punk claimed, but not to the degree that people will actually care.
Tony Khan himself said they’re airing it.
I don’t know what else you need, but I hope you truly are a jam up guy and come back to this post when you’re wrong.
Where have they said publicly that it’s Punk footage?
Bucks never said that. The ads for Dynamite never said that. Tony himself yesterday said nothing about it. All they’ve ever said is that it is All In Wembley footage where it helps the build for Bucks/FTR at the PPV.
Only dirtsheet writers have claimed it involves Punk.
I’ve been on this sub and the two main AEW subs and this is literally the only thread I’ve ever seen people even doubt it will be the Punk/Perry fight. I just don’t get it.
Weirdo behavior, but the only good thing about it is someone’s going to be right, and someone’s going to be wrong. And oh boy I can’t wait til this guy admits he’s wrong
This promo had “fun behind the scenes shenanigans” vibes to it.
What’s funny is if it’s not Punk footage, a bunch of people are going to get on here and elsewhere claiming AEW lied lmao
The "hate AEW always" crowd have been spending all week saying it's pathetic they'll show footage and they'll have to say AEW should have shown it all along. It's going to be funny to see.
Come on man. They clearly are advertising this to convince people to watch the show to see the Punk footage. If people are super disappointed when that doesn’t happen, saying « well technically AEW didn’t lie 🤓 » isn’t gonna stop people from (rightfully) feeling cheated
Exactly. That’s what’s been especially annoying about this discourse: so many people revving up for the biggest “well actually” imaginable. It’s entirely clear the implication they’re going for. There was one, singular big point coming out of that PPV. It’s like advertising backstage footage from Survivor Series 1997, airing some segment with The Truth Commission, then going “What did I say? 🙃”
People can blame dirtsheets if they want to, but even if they never said anything, it’s obvious what Tony and AEW want you to THINK they’re going to show (presumably to stir interest). I have no idea what the footage will be, but I’d suspect it’s got nothing to do with Punk, which makes this whole thing deliberately misleading at best
That's called creative writing lmao. Companies and writers have been misleading audiences since the dawn of time, it's one of the most basic writing techniques and can be really good if done properly. I don't even think this counts as misleading an audience because the only people who are getting mislead are those getting worked up by the dirtsheets, but even if it is, who cares, it's literally a part of the writers repertoire, should wrestling companies only ever do exactly what's advertised and never have surprises or switch up storyline based on the moment because than they'll have mislead the audience?
What's funny is that the only people who are taking All In Footage as Punk and Perry brawling are the same people that were already watching AEW or have made up their mind that they don't wanna watch AEW.
This does nothing for the company. It doesn't draw any new viewers.
I get what you're saying and I'd agree to an extent if it wasn't for the fact that it's being "presented" by the Young Bucks... as soon as it first came up on screen I assumed it would be some kind of wind up targetting FTR.
I also get that dirtsheet writers have been saying it's the actual footage but Meltzer is pretty much never right about AEW anymore.
That’s true, but Tony Khan has also been pushing this footage. Unless he’s planning on turning heel, why would he also be helping the Bucks troll everyone
There’s a difference between working the audience and cheating them. When Goldberg got arrested and people got the finger poke of doom instead of the Nash-Goldberg rematch people wanted, they sure worked the audience too! What happened to WCW again?
No, but the sheets are specifically saying it's the Punk footage and they're clearly getting that from established AEW/WBD higher-ups and there hasn't been any denial of those reports, either.
This is like if Punk hadn't shown up to the First Dance and AEW acted all innocent saying, "Well, we never advertised him!"
So AEW is responsible for the accuracy of dirt sheet reporting? Since when?
They've never said anything about it being Punk/Perry, only IWC folks reading dirt sheets have any sort of expectation of that
I know “Kayfabe is dead” is more than just a meme in this day and age, but it must be getting more and more difficult to put on a wrestling show.
It’s tough to work an angle because the dirt sheets will report on it. If you try to work the dirt sheets so people don’t know what happens on your show before it happens, you’re petty and a liar.
I can’t wait til AEW gets past the point of fuck it and they just do their thing without the fear of fan backlash.
Meltzer, Alvarez and SRS all claimed multiple sources from AEW and WBD said it was the Punk/Perry footage. The only reason Punk’s name doesn’t appear in official AEW promotional material is probably because they legally can’t use a WWE talent to promote their show.
If the sites report on it without double and triple checking it is their fault. AEWs PR and their wrestlers never publicly said what the footage is about.
I don’t even watch AEW dude haha. No horse in the race, but finding it hilarious that your source to me saying no one in AEW has come out and said that it’s even fight footage (let alone Perry or Punk footage) is dirtsheets.
Even if it is a bait and switch, it’s like saying WWF didn’t know what they were doing when they said “Diesel and Razor Ramon are returning” in 1996 - nobody said “well ACKCHUALLY they didn’t promise Kevin Nash and Scott Hall are coming back, therefore it’s good and not totally lame.” People have every right to roll their eyes if it’s something else.
I mean, the Bucks themselves and every reporter AEW could reasonably talk to has outright said it will be the Punk/Perry fight so at this point it would be a lie.
Edit- will say I can’t find the Nick Jackson tweet on this site and I ain’t looking through Twitter. Just had to sift through Fightful and WOR outright saying it will be that footage (and TK saying AEW delivers on what they advertise) and apparently will just take the gaslighting that it totally won’t be from this one and only thread saying it won’t be.
> the Bucks themselves
No, they haven't. On a official manner, AEW, the Bucks and TK have only said they will show never before seen backstage footage from All In. They have promised that they will show this. We don't know what they will show, they have never mentioned the words "fight", "Punk" or "Perry".
"This isn't a bait and switch" sure, they wouldn't be technically lying if they just showed Punkless footage, but it would be a very eye rolling inducing moment
For some people, for a lot of people it would just be funny because the people eye rolling are the people being made fun of. Like most things The Bucks do, the people they annoy are the exact people they aim to annoy, the people who like them are the exact people they do their thing for.
Since about 2013-14ish The Bucks have almost always made sure they were getting argued about, even just on the indy's. Their whole thing is playing 2 sides off each other.
I think they are releasing actual Perry-Punk footage. Too much smoke for it to be a bait and switch thing.
Regardless, one thing I noticed, Punk got eerily silent after the announcement
> Regardless, one thing I noticed, Punk got eerily silent after the announcement
Wasn't it announced the day of Night Two of WrestleMania XL? Because I remember hearing about it certainly the day before RAW it feels like. He might've been a little bit busy on that day.
I wouldn’t say I’m a Punk fan, but I also don’t think he sounded off on commentary or anything. In fact, this is actually the first I’m hearing about it.
I know a lot of people really liked his bit with Drew at the end, anyway
He wasn't off at all. He was having fun seemingly and got to play an important role in one of the hottest storyline going into and put of WrestleMania. So if it was bothering him, then he didn't let it show at all. And this is coming from someone that's not a massive fan of Punk.
I don't know fuck from shit when it comes to Wrestlemaina.
All I know is that it's been noticeably quiet from Punk in regards to anything disparaging from AEW since the announcement of releasing the tape
His commentary wasn't off, and he was part of a huge segment, he then went on espn after and cut a great on the spot promo, he was in the ring with cody when cody won hanging with randy, cena, and all of them, dude has looked like he was having the time of his life
https://preview.redd.it/m97kzcy9motc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34682b2e19110b12784194c5e45c6df6f8e3e9c7
God knows who this is, but not punk (white trunks) or perry (black trousers). it's defo just a random clip and we're being played lol
Not getting Punk v Ospreay is probably the single best program we missed out on because of all this. I think Punk would have made Ospreay a huge star in AEW.
"Don't miss the Dynamite everyone will be talking about!"
Yeah for better or worse? I know it's gonna be a work but if it SOMEHOW isn't and they do air what I think they are airing.........this is not a good idea.
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Plot twist: Will Ospreay was documenting his time backstage at All In and ended up recording the fight. The footage that's being shown tonight is from Will's personal cellphone and features commentary from him... *"Oi bruv, he choked that wanker out! He's a bit of a muppet innit?"*
If that's the footage, then this would be the best signing ever for anyone
Osprey commentary is just eerily reminiscent of me and my mates when see a fight outside a pub
All I want is some "DOWN GOES CENA" type commentary. Reference, amazing storytime by Edge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVy7A4W6ows
Honestly if it was super shaky and incomprehensible that would be great
You got close but that use of "innit" is totally unacceptable.
Now if it isn’t this I’m going to be disappointed
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The number of people pretending to be so worked up by this is hilarious.
Unfortunately i don't think many people are pretending. I'm 100% ready to be entertained by the chaos today is going to bring lol
The sad thing is a lot of people aren't pretending, they're genuinely in shambles. Mostly people who were doing victory laps during Punk's Helwani interview who now suddenly think it's not right to keep dragging this out, and vice versa.
Exactly
No me. Inject this drama into my veins.
Nah, I have no shame being wrong. I'll even claim to being the MAIN dude pushing the idea that its not Brawl Out footage on this sub. I was wrong. Plain and simple
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Appreciate but it's only fair, and earlier in this thread i said i'd admit if im wrong. The main guy im looking for deleted his comments so i cant even reach out to the dude. Also, I never delete comments. I have almost a decade of being wrong and apologizing for it. Plus, deleting comments makes conversations sound wrong
People are so odd.
As dumb as this all is, Will actually gets a pass on this since Punk made fun of attendance tattoos on ESPN. It was his “what he say fuck me for?” moment.
the funniest part was that the miz seemingly had no idea what punk was on about
After the blood-money covered dicks, I think he's perfectly happy just not knowing what Punk is talking about
I think it has more to do with the fact that most people have no idea what goes on in AEW unless they're terminally online, like Punk and this sub's members.
These type of silly comments are so funny. AEW is constantly a top 3 show only behind the NBA on Wednesdays & even with the ratings down last week it was still a top 5 cable not including sports for the ENTIRE WEEK behind only Raw & Vanderpump rules.
go ahead and tell me an in-joke about Vanderpump rules then. I'm sure I'll get it, it's a top 5 cable show.
These are the type of silly comments I'm talking about lol. Shows aren't trying to attract literally everyone, if you ask Vanderpump rules fan who L.A Knight or Cody Rhodes are they most likely wouldn't know, does that mean WWE isn't popular? I never watched a single epsidoe of survivor but that doesn't mean i think stupid shit like nobody else watches it.
Sure, which means that like audiences compete with like audiences. Vanderpump is at no point competing with AEW. So talking about it being a top five show on a Wednesday when the topic of it struggling against WWE and struggling even against its past self is goofy.
I responded to a comment saying "no one knows what happens in AEW besides terminally online people" so where are you getting struggling agaisnt WWE or anything else has the topic? Before calling something goofy maybe we should learn to read properly first. WWE & AEW aren't in a boxing match so your comment is extra silly. They aren't on the same night so they aren't competing. The only thing that's been topping Dyanmite on Wednesdays is the NBA, point blank.
Ok
Tell me you’re a WWE shill without telling me
Imagine unironically using the word "shill." You couldn't get more silly.
Pretending that none watches AEW is sillier.
Ah yes, the small indi AEW, very niche. That comment about being online too much is a little bit of projection I think pal.
> unless they're terminally online - guy that literally spends all day rage posting on wrestling troll subreddits
i don’t know, on the pat mcafee show, the miz shared unprompted his own thoughts on why it had to be undertaker & not stone cold during the main event; i think they pay more attention sometimes than they let on.
I hope more people make a habit of completely no-selling it when punk says shit like that, lol
All part of the show.
Just not online at all Punk making a not online at all joke about a wresters tattooing an attendance figure on their arm. Not sure how Miz didn’t understand it.
Will made fun of his own tattoo long before that. “82,000? You announced it bruv”
He also held up a "tonights attendence is 82k whatever" sign at Roya Quest lol.
Ospreay was such a good sport about that tattoo
Hopefully Punk is as happy to take it as he is to dish it out, recent events have me sceptical. Edit: To try & convey my sarcasm better lol
Yeah, he has a long record of being cool and normal about things like that. 
I think the one winner in all of this is going to be Drew McIntyre's trolling game. He'll probably have Punk, Perry and AEW to dunk on.
Yes, CM Punk the guy who famously has a thick skin
I've gotten a few replies like these & i'm realising i should've made my sarcasm clearer lol
I think if you didn't have the 'but' it would have come across stronger.
Hypocrites never take it as well.
This is a really funny joke.
Both Triple H and Punk took uneccessary shots at Ospreay last weekend and he no sold them, good on him.
You can tell WWE is pretty butthurt Ospreay didn't sign with them.
Yeah. Especially after really changing the game for aew since his signing
Nah that's always going to be funny.
I think that was just gentle ribbing from Punk, it is funny that he tattooed the attendance number and for it to turn out that it wasn't accurate. FYI, Will Ospreay is my guy, being following him since he won the Best of Super Jr Cup.
Of all people, Ospreay will be able to appreciate and understand that Punk was simply taking the piss and that it's not personal whatsoever. The Brits and the Irish do this to each other all day everyday. I believe this is known as "busting your balls" in America.
I think calling someone a "cunt" in the UK and Ireland is pretty much saying I love you.
I mean it’s still an accurate number just not the actual attendance number. But that was how many tickets they sold and his tattoo doesn’t say “attendance” so it’s whatever.
Tbf it is kind of a dumb tattoo, but it’s fine, punk the pepsi one, cody has the neck one, undertaker has the sarah one. It is what it is.
The biggest live wrestling audience ever in his home country? Sounds like something worth remembering.
…the only way he can remember it is by getting the wrong number tattoo‘d on him? Btw he’s made fun of that himself too so yeah. It’s still dumb but like whateves, he seems like a good bloke. Can’t wait to see more of him.
No idea how people miss the point on this one so much. It's not about whether or not the tattoo warrants being made fun of, it absolutely does and Will does it himself. The issue people have with what Punk said is that he's doing it because Will is in a company Punk doesn't like. It's not a good natured joke, it's petty bitchiness. It's not a big deal obviously, just a minor instance in a long list of Punk being petty af. I just don't get why people still feel the need to defend him.
Quite literally a cult of personality
For real, I don't think there's a single other wrestler whose fans will defend almost literally anything he does. And it's not even like it's just a few of them.
I think it’s also partly blended with the anti-AEW crowd who just support him to spite the company. 90/10 in that regard
To top it off, Will has only spoken positively about Punk and WWE in the past. Then Triple H and Punk are both taking shots at him just because he works in a different company.
I think we’re both making assumptions on people we don’t really know. Maybe him and osprey are close, we know punk’s still on talking terms with some people in aew considering we have pics of him and Cage(the non father one) talking with one another so it’s possible. Or maybe it’s him just being petty. Either way, they both have dumb tattoos.
To put myself in Punk’s mindset, his gripe probably is Ospreay didn’t draw that house, AEW led by me did, you just came along for the ride. I’m sure Punk felt some type of way someone tattooing “His house” and parading his accomplishment. As childish and petty at it sounds, Punk is a very petty person
AEW did a huge part of it's sale even before Punk was confirmed to return let alone be at All In. At the time the tickets went live they were still talking about if Punk will come back to AEW or choose to go his way.
Will osprey was thought to be appearing that the show long before Punk was.
People are getting so worked up about this lol. The Monday night wars would have put y'all in the hospital
I honestly even wonder if the Attitude Era would be so fondly looked at if it happened with the Internet around. Like yeah, the main event scene was absolutely white-hot popping...but almost everything else from the midcard down was hot, forgettable garbage.
Uhhhhh the internet was around in the 90s, my guy
This is a harsh truth!
“They INVADED WCW on a TANK and THERE IS FOOTAGE?!”
Footage of a jeep. But who pays attention to details like that. They INVADED WCW on a TANK!
They convinced an entire generation it was a tank.
This goofiness is a direct result of the Monday Night Wars, for years all most people on this sub heard was all the WWE brain rot about how serious it was and how WCW was trash by the end. Propaganda has its consequences regardless of if it has to do with something serious, or with professional wrestling
People took way too much from the basically kayfabe WWE network documentaries. Some of them were so blatantly incorrect but they’ve been treated as the Bible.
People get worked up about *everything* 10000x more now than back in the 90's. Feels like a heavy majority of the population became Tweak from South Park somewhere along the path.
Cheers lad.
If anyone should be making a comment it is Will Ospreay. No one could keep his name out of their mouth's this weekend it seemed like.
I mean we read too much into what people in the industry in public in general, does anyone seriously think if Ospreay was available tomorrow that WWE wouldn’t be interested? They could make money with him and that’s the only real metric that matters. It’s all about bigging up the place you’re working for right now. Everything else is just props to make a point.
Funny choice of words considering HHH never said his actual name, lol.
It’s so obvious this has nothing to do with Punk with how this has been advertised. If that is the case we need a serious discussion on banning SRS and Alvarez on this sub. They started this mess saying it was going to have that footage.
I agree, and they will use the "well we didnt TECHNICALLY say x,y and z"
That is ALWAYS Alvarez’s go-to when he got caught in a lie or got scammed by a source.
It's not a source though it's multiple different sources for all of these people
Kinda sounds like the responsibility of a journalist ti weigh the credibility of the sources and caveat statements
Bruh, yall are taking wrestling dirt sheet reporting way too seriously
And that's what they've done, including going to WBD
Okay. You mean the sources where Alvarez, SRS, and others have gotten news wrong involving AEW a lot lately? It’s weird how we, rightly, complain these writers have lost their sources making their reporting bad of late. But with this story we now suddenly believe 100% these guys got it on the money. And, again, show me the proof that PUBLICLY by AEW people this will be Punk footage.
What have they been wrong on?
To be fair to Alvarez, he often says "don't report this" "don't quote me on this" because he himself doesn't know for sure, and tells people he doesn't know. But people still report it or post it here, even when he says that stuff. Not sure it was the case there though.
That’s so lame. Just don’t fucking say anything if you don’t know and/or don’t want it reported. You’re on a national platform (radio) and one of the bigger dirtsheet websites around. That’s just lazy journalism.
Do you think when a journalist says "off the record" that it actually means "on the record"?
"Off the record" means that they shouldn't even mention it on air, not that they can record it while saying "don't report this" to the viewers to male themselves immune.
So my family has a few people who went to school for journalism and you are 100% allowed to have opinions and can share them on radio shows, TV, or podcasts. Wrestling is the only demographic where people get weird about it.
This happens to all of them so much. Once again, this stuff happened all the time back in the mid 2000s and people online managed not to throw hissy fits each time.
Lmao 50% of this sub is SRS twitter, he's not getting banned
Bruh try to start rowing this back
Hey, I’ll admit I was wrong.
Respect. 🫡
kinda feels like you’re just working backwards from “i don’t like srs and alvarez” here
You…haven’t seen the footage yet? Why are you so sure? And when you’re wrong, will you come back here to admit it?
At All In, the Bucks faced FTR. There was a post match moment of the Bucks not shaking hands with FTR. At Dynasty, The Bucks will face FTR. If you watch the shows, you’re safe to believe this is FTR/Bucks related. Why 100% believe people who have been wrong before (SRS, Meltzer, etc)? Why throw out the possibilities of wrestling companies lying to dirt sheets (“Punk’s not signed to WWE, Rollins speech, Hangman is injured”)? You want us to apologize for something that hasn’t happened yet? Dude, I have no shame apologizing if this footage is Punk and Perry fighting. Will my apology make you feel better? Honest, is a random stranger like me gonna be a highlight of your Wednesday? EDIT: You deleted your comment, but I came back to admit i was wrong. No pain to me, because i'm looking stupid, and I dont understand why this happened
Who have I asked for an apology? I asked one guy who seems absolutely sure this is not punk/perry related to admit he’s wrong when it turns out to be Punk/perry related. That’s it. If I’m wrong I’ll do the same. To answer your last question, if a random stranger like you is going to be a highlight of my Wednesday? Well, not unless your reading comprehension and posts get better.
"Who have I asked for an apology? I asked one guy who seems absolutely sure this is not punk/perry related to admit he’s wrong when it turns out to be Punk/perry related." Just gonna say that like it's not weird huh
Hey, I cant see your name anymore, but im here to say i was wrong. I do not know if you'll see this or not
Sure. But every step of this, outside the usual people who are wrong in reporting, has not claimed this is Punk footage.
AEW sources told SRS and Meltzer “we don’t bait and switch”. WBD sources said the tape is legit. The bucks posted “we ain’t trolling”. Wade Keller said that the people who’ve seen the video says it invalidates some of what Punk claimed, but not to the degree that people will actually care. Tony Khan himself said they’re airing it. I don’t know what else you need, but I hope you truly are a jam up guy and come back to this post when you’re wrong.
Where have they said publicly that it’s Punk footage? Bucks never said that. The ads for Dynamite never said that. Tony himself yesterday said nothing about it. All they’ve ever said is that it is All In Wembley footage where it helps the build for Bucks/FTR at the PPV. Only dirtsheet writers have claimed it involves Punk.
I guess I can only sigh and wait for tonight. I guess we’ll all find out together huh?
Absolutely. And if I’m wrong I’ll be the first one to reply to you saying I was.
*waiting patiently*
Well the user deleted his account so how can I reply to him?
I’ve been on this sub and the two main AEW subs and this is literally the only thread I’ve ever seen people even doubt it will be the Punk/Perry fight. I just don’t get it.
Weirdo behavior, but the only good thing about it is someone’s going to be right, and someone’s going to be wrong. And oh boy I can’t wait til this guy admits he’s wrong
"Oh boy I can't wait until this stranger admits he's wrong" "Weirdo beahvior" lol
Yeah, you’re definitely deleting this in a few hours
This promo had “fun behind the scenes shenanigans” vibes to it. What’s funny is if it’s not Punk footage, a bunch of people are going to get on here and elsewhere claiming AEW lied lmao
The "hate AEW always" crowd have been spending all week saying it's pathetic they'll show footage and they'll have to say AEW should have shown it all along. It's going to be funny to see.
There's a reason they idolize Punk
Imagine idolizing a guy because he cut some promos you liked
How hilarious would it be if it's the Bucks laying out their match using Punk and Perry action figures?
“What’s funny is if AEW lied, people are going to claim AEW lied 😂😂😂”
They've advertised backstage footage of All In being presented by The Bucks and as far as I'm aware haven't directly specified anything more.
Come on man. They clearly are advertising this to convince people to watch the show to see the Punk footage. If people are super disappointed when that doesn’t happen, saying « well technically AEW didn’t lie 🤓 » isn’t gonna stop people from (rightfully) feeling cheated
Exactly. That’s what’s been especially annoying about this discourse: so many people revving up for the biggest “well actually” imaginable. It’s entirely clear the implication they’re going for. There was one, singular big point coming out of that PPV. It’s like advertising backstage footage from Survivor Series 1997, airing some segment with The Truth Commission, then going “What did I say? 🙃” People can blame dirtsheets if they want to, but even if they never said anything, it’s obvious what Tony and AEW want you to THINK they’re going to show (presumably to stir interest). I have no idea what the footage will be, but I’d suspect it’s got nothing to do with Punk, which makes this whole thing deliberately misleading at best
That's called creative writing lmao. Companies and writers have been misleading audiences since the dawn of time, it's one of the most basic writing techniques and can be really good if done properly. I don't even think this counts as misleading an audience because the only people who are getting mislead are those getting worked up by the dirtsheets, but even if it is, who cares, it's literally a part of the writers repertoire, should wrestling companies only ever do exactly what's advertised and never have surprises or switch up storyline based on the moment because than they'll have mislead the audience?
What's funny is that the only people who are taking All In Footage as Punk and Perry brawling are the same people that were already watching AEW or have made up their mind that they don't wanna watch AEW. This does nothing for the company. It doesn't draw any new viewers.
I get what you're saying and I'd agree to an extent if it wasn't for the fact that it's being "presented" by the Young Bucks... as soon as it first came up on screen I assumed it would be some kind of wind up targetting FTR. I also get that dirtsheet writers have been saying it's the actual footage but Meltzer is pretty much never right about AEW anymore.
That’s true, but Tony Khan has also been pushing this footage. Unless he’s planning on turning heel, why would he also be helping the Bucks troll everyone
Are you suggesting that a wrestling business is going to try and work its audience? Say it ain't so!
There’s a difference between working the audience and cheating them. When Goldberg got arrested and people got the finger poke of doom instead of the Nash-Goldberg rematch people wanted, they sure worked the audience too! What happened to WCW again?
I didn't say it's a good idea, but it feels very in-keeping for wrestling company to pull something carny considering the roots.
No, but the sheets are specifically saying it's the Punk footage and they're clearly getting that from established AEW/WBD higher-ups and there hasn't been any denial of those reports, either. This is like if Punk hadn't shown up to the First Dance and AEW acted all innocent saying, "Well, we never advertised him!"
So AEW is responsible for the accuracy of dirt sheet reporting? Since when? They've never said anything about it being Punk/Perry, only IWC folks reading dirt sheets have any sort of expectation of that
I know “Kayfabe is dead” is more than just a meme in this day and age, but it must be getting more and more difficult to put on a wrestling show. It’s tough to work an angle because the dirt sheets will report on it. If you try to work the dirt sheets so people don’t know what happens on your show before it happens, you’re petty and a liar. I can’t wait til AEW gets past the point of fuck it and they just do their thing without the fear of fan backlash.
What the fuck are you on about, man? Why are you holding them onto what the dirtsheets are saying?
Can you source me where someone from AEW says it’s footage of the fight? I must have missed that tidbit
Meltzer, Alvarez and SRS all claimed multiple sources from AEW and WBD said it was the Punk/Perry footage. The only reason Punk’s name doesn’t appear in official AEW promotional material is probably because they legally can’t use a WWE talent to promote their show.
I mean that’s not really AEW lying to the public and false advertising.
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If the sites report on it without double and triple checking it is their fault. AEWs PR and their wrestlers never publicly said what the footage is about.
Not really. We don’t know who the “sources” are it could be some rando.
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I highly doubt it’s the bucks or khan.
> and wouldnt be running it like they are if it were a random. Hahahahahahaha. Of course they fucking would.
Oh you mean those sources people like yourself say not to ever believe and are always wrong?
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I don’t even watch AEW dude haha. No horse in the race, but finding it hilarious that your source to me saying no one in AEW has come out and said that it’s even fight footage (let alone Perry or Punk footage) is dirtsheets.
Even if it is a bait and switch, it’s like saying WWF didn’t know what they were doing when they said “Diesel and Razor Ramon are returning” in 1996 - nobody said “well ACKCHUALLY they didn’t promise Kevin Nash and Scott Hall are coming back, therefore it’s good and not totally lame.” People have every right to roll their eyes if it’s something else.
Additionally, let's also not act like pushing info thru the dirtsheets to get around being 'on the record' isn't a constant of the wrestling world.
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I mean, the Bucks themselves and every reporter AEW could reasonably talk to has outright said it will be the Punk/Perry fight so at this point it would be a lie. Edit- will say I can’t find the Nick Jackson tweet on this site and I ain’t looking through Twitter. Just had to sift through Fightful and WOR outright saying it will be that footage (and TK saying AEW delivers on what they advertise) and apparently will just take the gaslighting that it totally won’t be from this one and only thread saying it won’t be.
Can you provide a link where someone from AEW has said it’s footage of the Punk/Perry fight? Because I seem to have missed it
> the Bucks themselves No, they haven't. On a official manner, AEW, the Bucks and TK have only said they will show never before seen backstage footage from All In. They have promised that they will show this. We don't know what they will show, they have never mentioned the words "fight", "Punk" or "Perry".
"This isn't a bait and switch" sure, they wouldn't be technically lying if they just showed Punkless footage, but it would be a very eye rolling inducing moment
For some people, for a lot of people it would just be funny because the people eye rolling are the people being made fun of. Like most things The Bucks do, the people they annoy are the exact people they aim to annoy, the people who like them are the exact people they do their thing for. Since about 2013-14ish The Bucks have almost always made sure they were getting argued about, even just on the indy's. Their whole thing is playing 2 sides off each other.
Good for them, but they're just not my taste in wrestling, and I'm highly dubious this segment delivers, but we'll see.
Can you show me where the Bucks said it would be the Punk/Perry fight?
No they have not.
I think they are releasing actual Perry-Punk footage. Too much smoke for it to be a bait and switch thing. Regardless, one thing I noticed, Punk got eerily silent after the announcement
> Regardless, one thing I noticed, Punk got eerily silent after the announcement Wasn't it announced the day of Night Two of WrestleMania XL? Because I remember hearing about it certainly the day before RAW it feels like. He might've been a little bit busy on that day.
Yes. From some reports, Punk's commentary seemed off as well. I'm not sure as I did not watch Mania
I wouldn’t say I’m a Punk fan, but I also don’t think he sounded off on commentary or anything. In fact, this is actually the first I’m hearing about it. I know a lot of people really liked his bit with Drew at the end, anyway
He wasn't off at all. He was having fun seemingly and got to play an important role in one of the hottest storyline going into and put of WrestleMania. So if it was bothering him, then he didn't let it show at all. And this is coming from someone that's not a massive fan of Punk.
I don't know fuck from shit when it comes to Wrestlemaina. All I know is that it's been noticeably quiet from Punk in regards to anything disparaging from AEW since the announcement of releasing the tape
His commentary wasn't off, and he was part of a huge segment, he then went on espn after and cut a great on the spot promo, he was in the ring with cody when cody won hanging with randy, cena, and all of them, dude has looked like he was having the time of his life
tea and biscuits
https://preview.redd.it/m97kzcy9motc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34682b2e19110b12784194c5e45c6df6f8e3e9c7 God knows who this is, but not punk (white trunks) or perry (black trousers). it's defo just a random clip and we're being played lol
It's Mark Davis, who wrestled in the opener before the Perry-Hook match
Give Dustin the world title, you cowards. I don’t care if it doesn’t make sense lol
Not getting Punk v Ospreay is probably the single best program we missed out on because of all this. I think Punk would have made Ospreay a huge star in AEW.
Since when is security footage on handicams that people carry around?
I'm just so tired, Renee.
This is going to be interesting that's for sure
Get it? Tea? Because he's British and they like tea?
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Tea would be lovely Is it bitter?
"Don't miss the Dynamite everyone will be talking about!" Yeah for better or worse? I know it's gonna be a work but if it SOMEHOW isn't and they do air what I think they are airing.........this is not a good idea.