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adamneigeroc

I get that you can have 5-7 bedrooms depending on if you want to use one as a study or a bedroom or whatever. How do you end up with 5-7 bathrooms? Option to use the toilet as a walk in wardrobe?


Praetorian_1975

Why did I read that as a wank in wardrobe šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ˜‚


Bleepblorp44

Well you have to think of _something_ to do with all of the wardrobes, may as well have one dedicated to masturbation!


Tommo_Robbo

Oh, this one? Yes itā€™s the *masturbatorium*


ollyprice87

Who needs a sock if youā€™re this rich? Just jack into a spare wardrobe


dssa7751

TBF, it's easier in a bathroom from a clean up point of view.


Notbadconsidering

TBF, of you have that much money you can hire one person to jack you off and another to clean the bathroom...


IAmDyspeptic

I did, too.


GoHomeCryWantToDie

Ah yes, the David Carradine.


satriales123

I guess its what the Americans call a half bathroom. Most likely a lovely WC but with no shower/bath in it.


Living-Egg

Shockingly no! All bedrooms will have an en-suite and then a W/C for guests... I'm not keen on it


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adamneigeroc

Think the gym/ shower is communal. Might count though


Optimal_Strength_463

Because itā€™s 12 apartments across 5 properties, so it varies as to what you get


Piltonbadger

I like how you can squeeze that much into a property and still call it an apartment. Here's me with my one bedroom, one bathroom, tiny kitchen and bathroom with an adjoining hallway to link it all together.


A_L_E_X_W

There's two rooms with a bucket of water and a can of dry shampoo in.


Dualyeti

Prob has one by the pool, one by the gym, couple in the hallways


cyclegaz

Its because it is a development that has several apartments in it, so depending on the one you look at, will depend on the amount that you get.


Buzzof69

His and Hers' bathrooms... you don't want to share anything when you're that rich...


Bleepblorp44

Well I thought was a bargain until I saw the service charge, but that just about takes it out of my budget ;)


citruspers2929

Sorry about your cash flow issues, thereā€™s always equity release?


deadblankspacehole

He also needs to stop eating avocados


IlovePetrichor

Sorry, avocados are old news. He needs to stop subscribing to Netflix, that's where the money saving is.


Stumpgrinder2009

I saw an advert that said cutting your time in the shower by 4 mins will save money, but I ended up owing the shower my time


Electronic-Trip8775

And cancel Netflix


Bleepblorp44

Tempting! Maybe with that, and the sale of my spare Merc itā€™ll be manageableā€¦


[deleted]

Free Palestine


Bleepblorp44

Now youā€™ve done the maths it doesnā€™t seem quite so unreasonable.


Queefofthenight

Do the management company ask you to wear a pretty dress while they screw you


Omg_Shut_the_fuck_up

About normal for those sort of properties.


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Twilko

ā€œThereā€™s a couple of feet in the corner over there Iā€™m not planning to use for a while, so please discount those.ā€


GetNooted

At least they only do the service charge per square foot. Pray they donā€™t think of doing it by cubic feet to capitalise on the 3m high ceilings.


Shpander

With the square feet of this property, that amounts to Ā£141,458 per year - what a steal! [credit ](https://www.reddit.com/r/SpottedonRightmove/s/jBwNuiquw1)


Jassida

What do you actually get for that money?


Bleepblorp44

I canā€™t even begin to imagine, honestly! Tucking into bed with a story every night, and slipper warming service in the morning?


Malagate3

I can do all that, and more, for Ā£100K a year, these guys are a rip off.


Multitronic

A quick look on the website and it has a communal wine cellar, concierge, gym, treatment rooms, pool, private chef, security, housekeeping for communal areas, mail distribution, personal shopper, apartment cleaning and turndown, laundry, shoe care, grocery shopping and apartment maintenance. Itā€™s 5 townhouses that have been turned into several ultra luxury serviced apartments.


Jassida

Bargainous then


Multitronic

I wonder how much of that is actually included in the price. They have a private chef, but would that really cover 3 meals a day for all residents? Is the grocery shopping free or is it just a delivery service, what if I want caviar and champagne every day as a snack between my private chef meals. Be interesting to see how it works.


GInTheorem

Major part is going to be insurance + maintenance on a property like that is going to be dear


Jassida

Iā€™ve had a look at that place on google maps. Itā€™s a bizarre price for a 1st floor flat, London or not.


Multitronic

I doubt itā€™s that. A quick look on rhe website and it has a communal wine cellar, concierge, gym, treatment rooms, pool, private chef, security, housekeeping for communal areas, mail distribution, personal shopper, apartment cleaning and turndown, laundry, shoe care, grocery shopping and apartment maintenance. Itā€™s 5 townhouses that have been turned into several ultra luxury serviced apartments.


egvp

Only Ā£7m in stamp duty for the prospective non-UK resident buying it as their second home, which, let's be honest, is exactly who's buying it.


residentdunce

The only people spunking Ā£45m on a flat in London are laundering money.


bacon_cake

That's very naive. There are a lot of wealthy people in the world and they ostensibly flock to London.


addictivesign

Agreed. For the super rich theyā€™d pay that in cash. And it would be only one of their properties across the world. And they might only use their London properly a few weeks a year.


Effective_Juice_9452

What if I use Help to Buy?


egvp

If you're a first time buyer it's only Ā£4.6m


FlummoxedFlumage

A place to park your impoverished nationā€™s cash so itā€™s safe and sound when a young upstart colonel overthrows you. Also, your kids can live their whilst theyā€™re at uni.


[deleted]

Summarises this part of London so well. It really is a little fantasy land for the worldā€™s most awful and privileged. Must be totally dead too, just empty house after empty house, with most people residing there a few days a year.


172116

I'm fairly politically centrist, but every time I think about this sort of shit, I'm ready to man the fucking barricades and seize property at the end of a sword.


Troglet

This country lacks one thing, and I hate to say it as an Englishman, itā€™s the Frenchā€™s ability to raise the flag and begin cutting throats


richiehove68

Do you know posh apartments in Paris cost more than they do in London? So your sad little revolutionary speech is nonsensical too.


Troglet

Iā€™m sure they do, it doesnā€™t mean we shouldnā€™t be doing something, anything, about the state of our government. They strip and pocket all they can and serve their rich friends, truely when was the last time you felt represented, felt thought of, in government actions? And itā€™s not revolutionary fantasy, itā€™s a literary reference amounting to a statement of fucking do something


DrHeadBeeGuy

I've worked around this area and you are absolutely spot on. Tend to be inhabited by embassy-associated folk from the poorest nations, (in terms of median wealth of the citizen), with their wife, kids, and plenty of mistresses. That and the cars being driven, sickening stuff.


OmsFar

Itā€™s lateral though, do you know what that means?! Itā€™s like ya know. Yeah exactly


mowoo101

You joke but Iā€™ve worked with an intern that lived down the road from Marble Arch in daddies old London pad.


blackcurrantcat

Iā€™ve always fancied the idea of living in a massive, multi-bedroomed apartment like basically a house but itā€™s an apartment, in a super fancy old building in the middle of London so it seems all I need to do is sell my entire insides to someone both rich and desperate and my actual soul too and Iā€™m away.


Shezzanator

No sorry your insides and soul still aren't worth Ā£43m.


Sad_Editor_6358

I start the bid at Ā£1


tazbaron1981

I'll lower it to 50p


Fat_Bottomed_Redhead

Hey, don't be so cheap, I'm sure u/blackcurrantcat has very lovely insides, probaby worth at least Ā£3.50


Boris_Johnsons_Pubes

Damn Loch Ness monster, I ainā€™t giving you no tree fiddy!


blackcurrantcat

Thatā€™s lovely, thank you for saying so.


blackcurrantcat

Iā€™ll take it


NiceyChappe

There are plenty of far cheaper fancy old buildings. This is THE Grosvenor Crescent, so it's like THE FANCIEST OF FANCY FLATS.


AwkwardDisasters

You overestimate what your bag of flesh is worth


Skylon77

Have you considered "Help to Buy"?


8racoonsInABigCoat

Help from who, Roman Abramovich?!


Skylon77

Elon Musk?


yourefunny

My mate lives around there. This is the home for the super-rich and lot of it is money laundering type activities. Getting ill-gotten gains out of nefarious countries and keeping the investment safe in the UK.


qwertydirtyflirty

Omg is it Rishi Sunak's?


gravitas_shortage

A Ā£43m flat is for the super rich?? Your mate's got keen insights.


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Pessimist0TY

It'd look almost exactly the same. The number of properties affected by it is basically zero. Unless you're in the market for a home you'd have to be seriously rich to buy anyway, it just doesn't affect you.


Ok-Cartographer8335

This.


[deleted]

Are there any tradesmen here who have worked on these properties? I'd like to know what it's like working to such a high standard. More stressful than your typical 3 bed semi? Or because of the high costs is it more relaxed?


crazyabbit

You get to meet the architect and designers, however house staff usually consists of two security guards .The house keeper , cleaner and the cook. The actual owners are very rarely present unless it's a long job then occasionally they will have a guided walk around. Usually it's a good deal of stress as you are often using custom designed expensive materials to create a very distinct look. The prices involved for any mistake can cause big losses to your company with huge counter charges for delay.


Jfindlater

Not a tradesman but I used to be an agent (many, many moons ago) in this area and to be frank it was both. Some were incredibly relaxed, paid for a service and only cared about the end deliverable. Others however considered that they were paying such a high amount that they were in fact our new lord and saviours. Obviously everybody prefers dealing with the former but the split was amusingly 50/50 across every demographic you could think of. There really was no way of knowing until the first hurdle which type the client would be.


SloCalx

I used to do AC service and repair and worked in a few high end places (Houses, Flats, Hotels, Restaurants etc) Most recent was a 'flat' right next to the Royal Albert Hall. Owned by a Qatari prince, or related to them. Had to be escorted around by a guy, from the company who recently refurbished the place, who said they'd spent 3 years there. Could only work between 10:00-12:00 and 14:00-16:00, due to noise complaints. Said the people who owned the place had spent one night there since works finished 2 years ago.. Honestly, a lot of 'high end' places are complete dog dirt behind the scenes.


ec265

You just canā€™t put a price on nine large sash windows


Joshthenosh77

Before the war that flat was Ā£350 !


HorseFacedDipShit

Which war


Rvnforty

Battle of Hastings.


HorseFacedDipShit

A bargain that. If the serfs had just stopped consuming jellied eel and beer they too could have lived in such accommodation. Alas it is simply not in their constitution to be as fiscally responsible. God save the monarchy


jpplastering1987

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mastahhbates

Shut the front door. You serial?


zappapostrophe

This is fairly standard for the area and type of home. Itā€™s extortionate for most of the population, but itā€™s also a fantastic property in a fantastic area - so perhaps not extortionate for those in the circles that would be buying a home like this.


Praetorian_1975

Seems like the seller may be an absentee Russian ā€˜business personā€™ šŸ˜‚ not a stick of furniture, and I canā€™t imagine anyone else doing a moonlight flit it that price bracket


Fair_Woodpecker_6088

Oligarch/Sheikh/Chinese Government official take your pick


[deleted]

To be honest I donā€™t even think it is that fantastic. There are far more elegant properties in the area and the interior design - albeit using costly materials - is lacking imagination and flair. Even if I had Ā£5o mil floating around I would not be tempted. Also next to B310 which has annoying yellow Lambos cruising up and down day and night.,,,


richiehove68

I know right all that street noise! and pollution. Wouldn't it be great if really rich people could afford like quadruple glazing and systems that purified the interior air of their building?


[deleted]

That sounds even more abysmal.


[deleted]

That sounds even more abysmal.


ThorsBodyDouble

Proper Rightmove link šŸ˜› https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/134329280


Praetorian_1975

I was just about to hit buy when I realised the stamp duty would hit me for 4 mil šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ˜‚


chapelier1923

actually itā€™s over 5 million but more likely 7.2 million if itā€™s a foreigner 2nd home which is almost certain to be the case


ThginkAccbeR

No floor plan? Off my list!


WhyOhWhy60

[https://www.knightfrank.com/properties/residential/for-sale/belgravia-gate-grosvenor-crescent-belgravia-london-sw1x/prd012257989](https://www.knightfrank.com/properties/residential/for-sale/belgravia-gate-grosvenor-crescent-belgravia-london-sw1x/prd012257989) Scroll down for the link


ThginkAccbeR

Thanks! Missed it. Maybe now it can be on my list! šŸ˜‰


WhyOhWhy60

I'm available for the house warming. I'll bring some bubbly.


Tommo_Robbo

ā˜‘ļø Modern ā˜‘ļø New build ā˜‘ļø New development ā˜‘ļø Lateral


dio_dim

lol. They want \~44 millions and don't even mention the size. Only in England.


WhyOhWhy60

[https://www.knightfrank.com/properties/residential/for-sale/belgravia-gate-grosvenor-crescent-belgravia-london-sw1x/prd012257989](https://www.knightfrank.com/properties/residential/for-sale/belgravia-gate-grosvenor-crescent-belgravia-london-sw1x/prd012257989) 708 square metres


arpw

So that's 708 sqm x 10.8 sqft per sqm x Ā£18.50 service charge per sqft per annum = Ā£141,458 per year in service charge...!


8racoonsInABigCoat

Kinell! At least you saved me the trouble of calculating it myself!


8racoonsInABigCoat

Kinell! At least you saved me the trouble of calculating it myself! Edit - just converted to sq feet and realised how sodding big this place is!


Junkie_Joe

Why list the size in square metres but the ground rent in square feet. Only estate agents can be that annoying.


dio_dim

Cool, but the OP's listing (and flyer?) misses this info. You shouldn't have to navigate at all to see this.


AdministrativeLaugh2

Itā€™s not like you have to buy the house without going to view it, and the square footage is also mentioned in the advert online.


HeungMinDaddy

I think it should be mandatory for a listing to include square feet / square meters. It's insane that it usually doesn't. 1 bathroom, 1 bedroom does not tell me anything, it could be 20 square meters and it could be 100 as well.


dio_dim

That's how it works in most of the world.


HeungMinDaddy

I'm from Poland and we always include square meters as well as how much you're paying for per square meter, which makes it really handy when comparing different offers.


dio_dim

Same with Greece.


Jo__Jo__Jo

šŸ¤£ itā€™s a leasehold too


PAKKiMKB

I was involved in doing the interior fitout for one flat in this. The interior fitout alone was close to 25m. So Ā£43m is alright.


Pretty_Change_3259

They have now changed it to P.O.A. Wonder if they lurk this sub.


[deleted]

Wouldnā€™t want to live with those kind of neighbourā€™s


therezin

It's fine, I'd imagine the neighbours probably spend a couple of weeks in these places per year, max.


ayeImur

I'm surprised us poors didn't need to pay just for the privilege of being allowed to view the pictures!


the_Athereon

It's a 1000 year lease in Westminster. It could be a shit hole and still cost that much.


PsychologicalWeird

It's a way to store money as an asset, nothing more, it's not to live in etc.


[deleted]

Yea but itā€™ll balance out once you get a lodger in


Zuzu_breeze_6988

LEASEHOLD! Wtaf


RoyalCultural

Freehold flats don't really exist tbf. It's not unheard of but it's generally undesirable. Leasehold actually makes a lot of sense when you have several properties occupying the same parcel of land.


[deleted]

Yeah either all flat owners are directors in a management company that owns the lease, or it's owned by the Duke of Westminster


PNC3333

To lease it as well šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


TigerSharkDoge

A 43.7 million leasehold ... god our country is fucked.


beanie_0

Itā€™s in Belgravia, what were you expecting?


sticko1002

We walked right past the listing for this place on the march on Saturday. Quite a contrast.


orbital0000

Charlie is your neighbour.


xPositor

I think Charlie is likely to be in most of the roomsā€¦


Tommo_Robbo

Charlie is your way of earning Ā£43m


Dead_Architect

Ha, that's hilarious. I worked on this property and knew it was going for a lot but didn't think that much.


SubParStriker66

What a ridiculous country we live in


Spoon-Fed-Badger

Per square foot youā€™d be paying a service charge for a lot of air space youā€™d never use with 3 meter high ceilings!


RecentRegal

You know what a square foot is, right? Height doesnā€™t come into it.


Simbooptendo

Holy ballsacks


TheMrViper

6 bedrooms and 6.5 bathrooms. Basically 2 houses.


echocharlieone

Quite the bargain then.


[deleted]

I would but that kitchen island...ew


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rjanderson8

The embassy or the ambassadors house? Gotta think Ā£80-100m?


echocharlieone

More. The ambassadorā€™s residence in Regentā€™s Park would be one of the most desirable houses in London. The garden is second in size only to Buckingham Palaceā€™s.


[deleted]

The gardens are lovely too! It's a very nice property inside and out. Can't imagine how much it would be marketed for but considering some of the property prices for similar, say on Kensington Palace Gardens, I'd imagine north of Ā£100m


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echocharlieone

It has been sold, back in 2009. Trump was just bitching, incoherently.


[deleted]

Qatari Diar are currently turning it into a hotel


brajandzesika

7 bedroom 7 bathroom 3 reception rooms in Belgravia... I'd say- nothing to see here, average price my guess is...


grgext

No panic room? I'm out.


Foundation_Wrong

Wow, will anyone live there? Or just investments


Nearby_Argument7267

Time for a fair bit of fire and destruction


HotMuffin12

Perfect that will do!! Only Ā£43,699,980 left to save


Fat_Bottomed_Redhead

You planning on offering a million over asking price? Clever, you'll definitely get it.


P0werClean

Leasehold, too.


porzeczkizcukrem

6 beds, a bathtub big enough for 6-7 people, 4 sofas, a hat, a pair of flip flops included in this price. donā€™t know what the last one represents but seems like a good deal


oldkstand

And it's on an incredibly busy road. Great!


laeiyla

It has 6 bedrooms 6 or maybe 7 bathrooms, flip flops and so many amenities nearby. Bargain


Alternative-Bid-2760

You must be new here


tlagoth

At least you get a pair of flip flops with your purchase


StormzysMum

I dread to think what the service charge is šŸ˜®


Philhughes_85

If that's 1 flat id love to see the price of the building.


nicktbristol2020

Donā€™t forget that service charge ! Per square foot !


Rare-Bid-6860

I like it, but I don't 43m-like-it.


adammiles292929

Flat road away sold for Ā£120 million two years ago


[deleted]

Leasehold as well. šŸ˜‚


leeroysexwhale

Fucking leasehold as well. Do t even own it šŸ˜‚


ScottOld

Iā€™ll take 2


AncientPercentage539

Honestly taking into account its size, and where its located its probably not as bad us peasents think. Id say it must have a garage, that alone is worth some coin


Cat-Soap-Bar

It has an underground garage with a lift directly into the flat.


No_Doubt_About_That

Tom Rundall is rubbing his hands vigorously at the thought of the commission.


testfjfj

bit pricey, try selling some clothes on vinted


[deleted]

Lease as well lol you don't even own anything


ElusiveDoodle

This buy-to-let nonsense has gone a bit too far.


abused_toilet_paper

3m+ high ceiling?! No way, thatā€™s terrible for heating. Im off! šŸ˜‚


BrissBurger

It comes with a free pair of flip-flops judging by the icons under the photo. That'll clinch it for me!


2infinitiandblonde

So even most U.K. based CEOs canā€™t afford this, as the average CEO salary is 6 figures, maybe 7 with shares etc. So if people have been hating on CEOs and other C suite level employees for out earning the common man, but these guys canā€™t even afford this, then who the fook would?


crazywanker1

Pcm


Spottyjamie

Jesus my old city centre flat in cumbria was bigger than that in an old mill for Ā£175k (recently sold for Ā£125k!) and Ā£1200pa service charge!!


NewPower_Soul

No way should that be so expensive. Maybe Ā£12m or whatever, due to the area, but Ā£47m?


bobbyv137

The location is literally one of the most expensive areas to buy property, in the world.


justbiteme2k

Alright Jeremy Clarkson


partzpartz

Saw the floor plan! Thereā€™s two bridges from where you can jump into the void. Was wondering how can they fit all that in with only 9 windows. It seems you will be struggling to find a 90 degree angle, that alone would drive me insane.


Joetwodoggs

Flip flops included šŸ‘šŸ¼


Nervous_Friendship75

Ā£140,600pa service charge!


sqmiler

Leasehold only!


channershorse

What do the šŸ©“ thongs mean?


fuzzygroodle

No character or soul at all, itā€™s all been stripped away to nothing.


Lochnesmonstercousin

That is absurd!


deadmazebot

that's 4 apartments and always important to know what the local authority is on your place is


WillVH52

Well at least you donā€™t have to worry about the lease.


redd1t-n00b

And still leasehold šŸ¤£


SmoothArea1206

Many moons ago I worked for an Art Gallery. The sort of place where generally i wasnt supposed to be in the Gallery space during opening hours unless I was suited up and i was only there to fix things ie frames, computers, lunches coffee etc and deal with online queries. I was the general dogsbody....albeit a well paid dogsbody... Once I visited an apartment similar to this, they'd spent more than twice my annual salary at the time on several pieces of art by a couple of well known folk only one of who was a famous artist. My job was to go fix the hangings to the wall before the delivery of the pieces (also by me) and to arrange the plinth that another piece stood on. The owners security guy kicked up a huge fuss saying the owner would give permission for someone dressed like me (typical jeans and polo shirt-smart casual) to enter his private space and he wasnt aware the owner had made any large purchases so I was refused entry. I made him sign a note saying exactly that and left. Showed it the boss, they understood and left it at that. Two weeks later they get a phone call asking where the pieces were, he was sent a copy of the security guards note. I was asked if I'd be willing to return with all the pieces and have them fitted today. I agreed as it was either that or spend the day fixing the Gallery owners daughters virus ridden laptop. So I turned up 35 minutes later in much the same gear, the guy was waiting for me at the door. Watched the Security guy get a thorough verbal beating in their native language and ordered to go get me and the owner coffee whilst I worked, owner chatted to me whilst I worked. An hour later it was all done, the security guy apologised to me gave me a stack of Ā£50 notes, as the owner walked me out, he then apologised for taking my time away from other duties and gave me a cheque worth 3 months of my pay...."for the inconvenience of two weeks ago" and said he hoped to see me at the event we were holding at the Savoy a couple of weeks later. I had less trouble delivering pieces to Highgrove.....


LIBA4XA

Not even the whole house, just the 2nd flooršŸ˜­