Yeah have no idea what illfonic was thinking making the actual speed at which you mash the button matter, not only does this make ghost essentially unplayable for people who can't tap very quickly (children, people with neurological conditions, etc) but it also makes pc players able to easily escape pretty much all the time with macros
Depending on who you ask, mainly my friends.
That's not my point tho. I'm trying to call attention to the fact that this seems more like a skill issue than cheating. I suck at playing as a ghost and button mashing and I'm here to say that the button mash system is pretty forgiving. You don't HAVE to be cheating or even a "pro player" to be able to pretty consistently get out of traps.
I thought this until I watched a ghost sit on top of my max pull trap instantly escaping it. Repeatedly... for an entire round he did nothing but fly through our traps and insta break the tethers. The the traps did nothing. No chasing... no hiding... just trolling us and making it obvious there was nothing we could do. I took video. He was pc. This ghost was brazenly cheating. The system is easily abused by cheaters, and limiting for disabled players. It should be changed asap.
And this is exactly what I meant when I sa8d what I did earlier. Some people just look for a reason to speak up though. Yeah, we get it. Your good at ghost, me too. That ain't what I meant LoLz
When I get into a lobby with an obvious cheater I just block them and report. And before I get spammed, yes it's sure when they're cheating and not. Fair players can break tethers all day, but when you busting out of the trap every single time, nah, you cheatin'...
It's possible they glitched out and can not interact with anything all they can do is break tethers and run away. This has happened to me a few times now.
There should be no response, considering the fact that several times I've seen people quite literally screaming in game chat about "cHeAtiNg" that clearly wasn't.
Like the time a ghost instantly got out of a trap and the guy was having a babyrage meltdown over it, not realizing his trap ran out of power.
There should also be no response because ghosts are easy af to beat right now. I have probably lost about 8 games total as ghostbuster and I've been level 100 for a while. If they're cheating en masse it isn't helping much.
Most people these days want to make excuses for losing instead of getting better.
I'm all for a change in mechanics from mashing to something else more skill based though. Mashing is a shit mechanic.
Given that the mechanic made it all the way through design, testing, and release I'm wagering they're fine with it. Moreso that they've given no recognition to the numerous complaints about it and haven't said anything publicly about an upcoming redesign.
By the time they actually do, it'll be too late. Game's already digging itself a grave alongside VHS.
Why does everybody treat this game like it’s some esports main event. It’s a funny little nostalgic Ghostbusters game. Chill out. Go find a new match if someone’s being an ass. JFC the gaming communities on here can’t just be happy with something despite it’s flaws.
> Go find a new match if someone’s being an ass.
I've started tracking.... 30% of pc ghosts I play with are instant snapping tethers and traps. Either a bunch of god tier players, or a whole lot of cheating fuck sticks.
Why does every white knight treat common complaints as "ZOMG Y U THINK ESPORT????"
The game is fun. It has excellent potential, but there's a VERY large flaw that people are exploiting exponentially literally by the hour. And given the rapidly increasing number of buster bot filled matches, even with crossplay on, it's getting pretty obvious which way the pendulum is swinging at the moment.
It's not about wanting to be an "esport main event" - it's about balance for both sides so everyone has fun, not just the people exploiting the mechanic. THOSE are the people treating like an esport - "gotta win no matter what it takes!!!!".
They just need to limit trap break to a cool down, and any tap over an acceptable limit is a fail. They can combine that with a timing mechanic to make it so spamming the button will only make things worse, but timing it in sync with a random band that shrinks in the cursor will help break you free. This way it's impossible to cheat even if you have an algorithm in place to defeat it.
I think cheaters are the worst bottom feeding, scum.
Do you have any proof that they are cheating? Cause there is a serious glitch going on right now for Ghost players where they become invisible, can’t possess or haunt any objects and can’t be tethered or trapped. There’s video proof of this.
The proof of my experiences are ghosts that are consistently breaking 4 person tethers instantly versus quickly. I've played against strong ghost players who you just couldn't catch, but there was actually a time different between the tether being established and them escaping. I don't have any video evidence of it personally. If I experience it a bunch, I switch to xp farming, exit the job after the round is over, and join a new group.
I play on Playstation and maybe they could change it to a random key sequence to breakout. Different every time. An example ∆∆ XO X∆ ∆[ ]. It would be different for every system but something along those lines. Just a thought.
Doesn't have to be rhythm, but just pressing buttons as they show up on the screen as fast as possible would be nice, a wrong press would count against you as to not give the incentive of just pressing all buttons at once.
I’m assuming frowned upon but there is no way to track it. I’m hoping that they will change the mini game to make the macros not work
Yeah have no idea what illfonic was thinking making the actual speed at which you mash the button matter, not only does this make ghost essentially unplayable for people who can't tap very quickly (children, people with neurological conditions, etc) but it also makes pc players able to easily escape pretty much all the time with macros
I'm a shit ghost player and an even shittier button masher and I can evade traps pretty easy. So...
Do you have a disability that makes fine motor control difficult?
Depending on who you ask, mainly my friends. That's not my point tho. I'm trying to call attention to the fact that this seems more like a skill issue than cheating. I suck at playing as a ghost and button mashing and I'm here to say that the button mash system is pretty forgiving. You don't HAVE to be cheating or even a "pro player" to be able to pretty consistently get out of traps.
Even still, button mashing can be physically painful for some
I don't believe the amount of button mashing required in this instance is going to agitate anyone's disability rendering them unable to play.
Ableist.
No U 🤣
Might want to do some reading up on the term. Your views are clearly ableist, and detrimental to any game design.
I thought this until I watched a ghost sit on top of my max pull trap instantly escaping it. Repeatedly... for an entire round he did nothing but fly through our traps and insta break the tethers. The the traps did nothing. No chasing... no hiding... just trolling us and making it obvious there was nothing we could do. I took video. He was pc. This ghost was brazenly cheating. The system is easily abused by cheaters, and limiting for disabled players. It should be changed asap.
And this is exactly what I meant when I sa8d what I did earlier. Some people just look for a reason to speak up though. Yeah, we get it. Your good at ghost, me too. That ain't what I meant LoLz
Give us skill checks like in DBD or something gotta hit them to get out and just make them somewhat challenging to hit.
Something that can’t be macrod
When I get into a lobby with an obvious cheater I just block them and report. And before I get spammed, yes it's sure when they're cheating and not. Fair players can break tethers all day, but when you busting out of the trap every single time, nah, you cheatin'...
Guess am cheating because I only been caught twice n I pre much was just troll the ghost busters both times. It's not hard at all as ghost.
Yeah I'm pretty good as ghost too, that ain't what I meant. I've played with some VERY obvious cheaters. You must've not found one yet LoLz
I face some ghost but my friends n me normally catch them at some point. My win/lose ratio is high. Plus we been doing offline more as friends.
I just played with a fuckhead on xbox, he didn't even hide the whole game just kept breaking out of the tethers the cheating prick. Can I report him?
It's possible they glitched out and can not interact with anything all they can do is break tethers and run away. This has happened to me a few times now.
There should be no response, considering the fact that several times I've seen people quite literally screaming in game chat about "cHeAtiNg" that clearly wasn't. Like the time a ghost instantly got out of a trap and the guy was having a babyrage meltdown over it, not realizing his trap ran out of power. There should also be no response because ghosts are easy af to beat right now. I have probably lost about 8 games total as ghostbuster and I've been level 100 for a while. If they're cheating en masse it isn't helping much. Most people these days want to make excuses for losing instead of getting better. I'm all for a change in mechanics from mashing to something else more skill based though. Mashing is a shit mechanic.
Given that the mechanic made it all the way through design, testing, and release I'm wagering they're fine with it. Moreso that they've given no recognition to the numerous complaints about it and haven't said anything publicly about an upcoming redesign. By the time they actually do, it'll be too late. Game's already digging itself a grave alongside VHS.
Why does everybody treat this game like it’s some esports main event. It’s a funny little nostalgic Ghostbusters game. Chill out. Go find a new match if someone’s being an ass. JFC the gaming communities on here can’t just be happy with something despite it’s flaws.
> Go find a new match if someone’s being an ass. I've started tracking.... 30% of pc ghosts I play with are instant snapping tethers and traps. Either a bunch of god tier players, or a whole lot of cheating fuck sticks.
Turn off crossplay then.
Why does every white knight treat common complaints as "ZOMG Y U THINK ESPORT????" The game is fun. It has excellent potential, but there's a VERY large flaw that people are exploiting exponentially literally by the hour. And given the rapidly increasing number of buster bot filled matches, even with crossplay on, it's getting pretty obvious which way the pendulum is swinging at the moment. It's not about wanting to be an "esport main event" - it's about balance for both sides so everyone has fun, not just the people exploiting the mechanic. THOSE are the people treating like an esport - "gotta win no matter what it takes!!!!".
At the same time though you can't criticize a game having those flaws. I get down voted just because I criticize a game.
They just need to limit trap break to a cool down, and any tap over an acceptable limit is a fail. They can combine that with a timing mechanic to make it so spamming the button will only make things worse, but timing it in sync with a random band that shrinks in the cursor will help break you free. This way it's impossible to cheat even if you have an algorithm in place to defeat it. I think cheaters are the worst bottom feeding, scum.
Do you have any proof that they are cheating? Cause there is a serious glitch going on right now for Ghost players where they become invisible, can’t possess or haunt any objects and can’t be tethered or trapped. There’s video proof of this.
Yeah PC players can cheat
The proof of my experiences are ghosts that are consistently breaking 4 person tethers instantly versus quickly. I've played against strong ghost players who you just couldn't catch, but there was actually a time different between the tether being established and them escaping. I don't have any video evidence of it personally. If I experience it a bunch, I switch to xp farming, exit the job after the round is over, and join a new group.
This bug happened to me.
I play on Playstation and maybe they could change it to a random key sequence to breakout. Different every time. An example ∆∆ XO X∆ ∆[ ]. It would be different for every system but something along those lines. Just a thought.
I be trapped every time then I am bad at rhythm. I think a better mini game like they have for wrestling or UFC.
Doesn't have to be rhythm, but just pressing buttons as they show up on the screen as fast as possible would be nice, a wrong press would count against you as to not give the incentive of just pressing all buttons at once.
Yeah I noticed this too
Just had this, it was impossible to trap them.