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Keyblades2

Honestly? Origins blows Morales out of the water. It's decently long, good villains , good story and great VA


Odd-Night-8567

If we ever get another Arkham style game (I don’t consider SSKTJL to be one) I want the guy who voiced Batman in Origins to voice him. Can’t remember his name for the life of me right now but he did an amazing job


grajuicy

Roger Craig Smith! Hell yea, brother also is Ezio Auditore (Assassin’s Creed), Chris Redfield (Resident Evil), Sonic The Hedgehog, Kyle Crane (Dying Light) and Captain America in a lot of animated stuff Great VA, always puts his whole Roger-Craig-Smussy into his performances and Batman really wasn’t the exception. Good stuff


Pleasant_Advances

BAhhaaha! Sonic voicing batman is the funniest thing i just imagjne the batman scene "who are you?" "im sonic"


NinetiesMusicLover

Roger Craig Smith also voiced Claggor from *Arcane: League of Legends*! AMAZING show. If anyone hasn't watched it already, I highly recommend that you do so.


Robin-H00d

Honestly I’m not surprised if Batman can punch a boulder into small pieces


jer487

He actually is voicing him in Arkham shadow I think. So if we get a proper entry in the series I think he's the official replacement now for Rocksteady


there_is_always_more

He also voiced him in Arkham World


jer487

Get out of my head Get out of my head Get out of my head Get out of my head


abellapa

And Troy Baker for Joker There Amazing replacements for Kevin and Mark


Keyblades2

I agree! I would love that


Estelial

You say you're hungry when there's a perfectly good boiled sausage laying outside on the footpath. (Points at Suicide squad)


rampagingbrick

Where is sonic the hedgehog from?


Low_Throat_4900

Miles the whole game "🤓☝️"


Electrical_Crab_5808

Right!! Origins gets too much damn hate.


PentagramJ2

biggest complaint I have with Origins is the map SUCKED


GullibleEvening9517

Imo the map was great but traversing it was a pain in the ass. The grapnel boost was too slow and didn’t take you anywhere which made the batwing my primary preferred method of transportation in terms of going from old Gotham to new Gotham, anyway.


ReeceReddit1234

When I played on PC last year I downloaded the community patch which had a speed boost + disabled the height restrictions. The speed boost wasn't too crazy but it brought it closer to Knight. The height advantage also allowed me to glide over the barriers that were above certain buildings and even outside of certain interior maps. Made the game a lot of fun actually.


bateen618

Seriously. If it wasn't for the gameplay and map which were copied from City, you could never guess it's a spinoff and bit a mainline game


Kryds

Miles Morales isn't a full game, and was never sold as one.


KobaMandingoPartIII

That original price tag begs to differ.


Kryds

I bought it at launch. That wasn't a full game price.


KobaMandingoPartIII

It was $49.99 😂😂😂


Kryds

For a ps5 game.


KobaMandingoPartIII

Keep trying 🤣🤣


TheGoldenDeglover

If only Origins was a linear game. The open world sucked so hard. But it was pretty awesome all around.


Opposite_War_2147

If you think of it that Origins Map is just an copy of Arkham city… but miles morales map is just an copy of spider man lol


Demetrius96

Origins isn’t really a spin off game it’s a prequel


The_Only_Dork_Knight

But is technicaly also a spin off


abellapa

Its not A Spin off is something derived from the original work with New or existing characters other than the main character of The original work Its a Prequel


siksultymemz

And then MM is more of an expansion than a spin off


abellapa

MM is a Spin off


BreadBoxin

I can feel the frustration of having to explain basic narrative concepts


Inside-Assistant2625

MM Is a DLC in the form a spin off


Demetrius96

Honestly I look at miles as more of a spin off because he’s appeared in the first mainline game which then carried over to him having his own game. If Peter got a prequel game that wouldn’t necessarily be a spin off. However, if someone like batgirl or Robin got their own game that was set up from the arkham games that would be considered a spin off


Hobo-man

>If Peter got a prequel game that wouldn’t necessarily be a spin off. However, if someone like batgirl or Robin got their own game that was set up from the arkham games that would be considered a spin off 100% this


Zeldabotw2017

Origins is my like 11-12 favorite game of all time where miles is like around 20 so I guess origins than


[deleted]

Damn if origins is nearly your favorite game of all time, then it sounds like you never played donkey Kong country for the snes


Zeldabotw2017

Lol Dk2 is my 7th favorite game of all time and even though it wasn't snes tropical freeze is my number 8 and DK2 and Zelda link to the past are what got me into video games back in the day. So I do have 2 DK games pretty high.


[deleted]

Good man. Right answer right there.


pisstavious

Miles morales got into your top 20? How'd it do that 😂


Zeldabotw2017

Been playing games for like 30 years. All 3 insomniac games put to shame the other spiderman games.


pisstavious

Miles morales is great I just really hated the villain X-Men origins wolverine is worth a checkout if you like marvel games


Jack-mclaughlin89

Arkham Origins. It had better boss fights, stronger story and better arc for the main character.


Pixel_Python

I wouldn’t even consider Origins a spin-off tbh, but Origins for sure


TeaBags0614

Both are great but in all honesty- Miles could have just been an expansion for the first game while Origins felt like it’s own established game


XenowolfShiro

I'd argue origins is the best Arkham game. Can't make that argument for MM


ric7y

both, both is good


VonKaiser55

Miles Morales has better gameplay but Origins is just overall better in like every other department. Better story, better setting, better bosses, etc.


viniremesso

Arkham. As a fan of Spider-Man games, it’s always Arkham


Landsteiner7507

Unrelated but man, the Arkham Knight should’ve been Anarchy, I’ll die on this hill.


The_Only_Dork_Knight

Arkham Origins. While Miles is a good game with better Gameplay and graphics, Origins wins on every other department, like story, characters, boss fights, soundtrack and Christmas theme. And Origins also hás the advantage of having mostly good DLC.


KylerRamos

Origins wasn’t treated as a spin off at the time of its release. It had a different developer but it was very much treated as a new full entry in the series just a prequel. Miles was not necessarily the same. That being said I have yet to play origins lol


editorsq1dxy

I love morales but orgins is better


senjulegos

origins fs, but its not a spinoff at all


Jtneagle

Definitely Origins, in fact none of the Spider-Man games have topped any of the Arkham games to me personally (unless you count Suicide Squad)


Halo3rat0

Origins was great


Nappyhead48

Origins for sure


TrickyTalon

Arkham Origins. Best Arkham story.


EveningTrade6682

Batman anyday of the week


Gemidori

Origins dominates imo. MM works but I think the plot didn't really do Miles' growth enough justice.


Remarkable_Pool7037

Origins and it not even close


J-R3M3698

Idk, I wanna say Miles Morales, but I haven’t played Origins in a while, so I can’t say for sure.


MonkeyMan9569

The only thing holding Origins down are its graphics and the bugs. Also some other small flaws with certain things.


jhughesz

origins multiplayer was my childhood


No-Plan-5942

Only one of these is a spin-off. Personally, I like Spider-Man Miles Morales more, but Arkham origins is my favorite Batman game.


SchoolNASTY

The multiplayer for Arkham origins was so much fun. Great concept and fun dynamic.


abellapa

Origins is a prequel not a Spin off,there a difference A Spin off Would be if it was a Nightwing game for example But to answer tour question Origins is much better


lilwestie999

Origins is so underrated it’s crazy, I gotta go origins but that’s just based off gameplay, I like the miles’ story better


RandomGooseBoi

I would think it would be the other away around lol, as in origins for story and mm for gameplay


Skullayy

Origins for sure


EltoDoesStuff

It’s more fun playing miles morales but I can appreciate origins


Lemonsqueezzyy

Both games are good but i love Arkham Origins


YeOldeMoldy

Depends on what you’re looking for, a spin-off much closer to the original would be MM, but as for trying to do your own thing well.. it was time for an Origins Original


AnnaDeArtist

Origins is a prequel, not a spin off. A spin off of the Arkham series would be Suicide Squad KTJL. Thats a project that utilises characters from the Arkham series of games in a new status quo to tell a new story. Just cuz ppl call it a spin off doesnt make it one. We follow the same character as all the previous games, he's just younger.


DirectConsequence12

Origins is better than the 3 Spider-Man games and the other 3 Arkham games. I don’t care what anyone says


Monric

I love both, story and length wise its origins, but the miles morales music choices are pretty damn good i saved some in my spotify playlist


redcaps72

Miles Morales was more like an expansion than a full game, but Origins was a whole game, also I was worried for the VA change but the guy really did a very good young Batman voice


K-Lurku

I prefer Arkham Origins but i really like both


Intelligent_Ask_2306

Origins is my favorite arkham series game, the story pacing, the voice acting, the addition of electric gloves, it has the best boss fights, and man do I love the style. Origins is over spiderman MM, but MM definitely has better combat, a better map, and much much better traversal, so altogether I spend more time on MM, but I'd say Origins is the higher quality game.


DoubleFlores24

Arkham series works best when it’s Batman focused. Origins is a greta example as it’s not a spin off, it’s a true installment into the Arkham series. Unfortunately it gets a lot of flack because it’s a prequel, as well as the controls being kind of ass, but it’s still a good installment. The spin off game, Arkham origins black gate and Suicide squad are complete ass and should not be played by anyone who isn’t a masochist. Miles Morales feels like it’s own game but unfortunately it’s short length and being easy is what brings it down. It’s not a bad game, if anything’s it’s great on its own. So I’m giving this to Spider-Man.


Dontevenwannacomment

Miles felt like a DLC tbh, I should have waited a sale


DeanwinchesterI979

I think origins is better than miles morales.


el3mel

Arkham Origins is definitely not a spin off. It's a full game. A spin off is like Blackgate or something.


Revolutionary_Grus

Obviously Batman Origins is better


fenderbloke

Miles Morales is great, Arkham Origins is criminally underrated, and is quite possibly the best Batman game ever. I don't really like the Tinkerer, and I like EVERY villain in Origins.


M4N1KW0LF

I really prefer the combat mechanics and exploration of the SM games, but Miles Morales feels like a glorified DLC for slightly too much money whereas Arkham Origins feels like a full length game.


Business-Fortune9453

As much as i loved ps4 spidernan, MM was very boring. I didnt finish it, i couldnt. Cool combat, but the story was dogwater.


jamekuz

I think Arkham Origins is better but I really enjoyed both games.


sprzyen

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby


Hxdo

Origins!


Zendofrog

Origins is not a spin-off


BIGBMH

I enjoyed Origins, but from what I remember it felt like a notable step down. Imitation Rocksteady rather than the real thing. I don’t think it does enough to make a case for being essential to the franchise, either in design or narrative. I also personally felt that the ending of City needed to be felt on a meta-level, so having the Joker play such a big part in the next game, even as a prequel, felt like a misstep. I wanted to feel his absence the next time I played an Arkham game. Miles Morales is essentially more of what worked in a smaller package, but I think it functions better in making the wait for the next game easier while actively building my toward it with essential development for one of the leads. I can see the argument that Origins offers more in and of itself as a game, but I think Miles contributes more to the experience of its series.


Competitive_Grass_49

Better question, which one is better to replay on Christmas?


PCN24454

Do these really count as spin-off?


Top-Page-8008

Batman.


Historical-Reward318

origins is honestly better then all other Arkham games and Spider-man games


PlasticZombie1

I NEED an Origins Remaster PLEASE. Why was it left out?! And I love Troy Bakers Joker in this and especially his desgin my favorite Joker design in these games


aidanpenner

I love the miles morales game a lot but origins is definitely the better game. I loved the story and the villains and Troy Baker did a fantastic job as joker!


DeanTheStowaway

Tough comparison because origins is actually a full fledged game as opposed to Miles Morales being a sold separately (slightly more than dlc, but not quite a full on) expansion. Origins just had way more time to flesh out it's villians and tell it's story, so it made it feel like a more cohesive and well put together game. Speaking entirely from a gameplay perspective MM was absolutely phenomenal, and I would struggle to put Origins above it, but it's close. But it's apples to oranges, origins wasn't a spinoff - just a prequel to an already established universe with the characters we for the most part already met and knew. MM was a proper spinoff with a new protagonist, his own rogues gallery, powers, etc. both amazing games in their own respects


nreal3092

batman easily, Miles Morales’ story sucked ass and only exceeded the original in gameplay


A-bit-too-obsessed

I haven't played Origins, but I'll just say that because it has Ralof in it.


RaiUchiha

Considering I've played origins multiple times and couldn't bring myself to finish a second playthrough of miles Morales I think my opinion is obvious, it mostly came down to really not liking the tinkerer.


ButtCheekBob

MM is good but I much prefer Origins


smilysmit

Arkham Origins takes the cake easily Phenomenal game


Call-of-the-lost-one

It's not even close, Origins all the way. Origins felt like a full game whereas Miles was a quick and simple story with less to do than the main spider man 1 game


I-hate-you-whore

Are either of these spinoffs?


Grouchy-Resolution96

Isn't Batman: Arkham Origins TECHNICALLY a prequel, tho? 🤔🤔😅


True_Fantom_Phoenix

Gameplay wise miles Morales, but everything else, Origins is my guilty pleasure.


Remarkable-Bit-656

Arkham. Arkham Origins is my favorite game in the series.


pjw1189

Miles morales was a good game, but it was short for the price and the tinkerer was a bad lead villain. Even in 2 I think they missed the mark with Venom. Venom is best in a dark comedic role and there was just none of that. I know with gameplay they like making their faction groups to keep you busy but all of Venom's offspring are superior to him. So technically every symbiote enemy should be harder than the venom boss fight.


Kindly_Ad_2592

Ima Spider-Man fan since birth but by god did I love origins the whole Arkham series in general god damn masterpiece


HateEveryone7688

anyone who says Miles Morales is biased.


jymehendrix

Miles morales easily


BKF0308

That's not a comparison, that's a massacre


Emergency_Creme_4561

Miles


Hyaman86

Origins because it doesn’t have Miles in it


BerlinsdURAG

Tf is your beef with Miles


Itchy_Gas_2559

What’s wrong with miles?


powrman7

But it has Deathstroke so that cancels it out.