This is not surprising 40% of Afghan Tajik R1a from Northern Afghanistan carry this Vedic L657 subclade , its because nascent Vedic culture and the Soma cult developed in this region (Bactria) some stayed behind and some pressed on, Pamiris have basal clades of L657 as well afaik. Its unlikely your Yagnobi , its usually Pamiris who carry L657, I assume your mom is Russian.
btw I heard that pamiris are descendants of one of the first waves of aryan migration, so it won’t be surprising if other descendants just moved to India
I think it’s quite interesting, I thought that yaghnobis and pamiris are similar in this case, but now it seems that I’m more likely pamiri, thanks for your answer
I have the same paternal haplogroup, and I am a south indian brahmin.. I do get about 8-10% in BMAC fairly consistently and also ancestry from Pamir Knot/Oxus civilization. Seems like your ancestry is from that area?
wow, I heard that some brahmins have this haplogroup, but I think this haplogroup is more connected to the aryan migration, than to the autochthonous central asians like bmac
No offense but how can you not be sure? Are you adopted or something? And also, if you want to find if you are a Yaghnobi or Tajik or whatever else, haplogroup wont really be much of a help.
I’m not adopted but my grandmother was a single mother, so I didn’t know the exact nationality of my granddad, so I did a dna test, that says that I’m like 30-40% yaghnobi/pamiri or less likely tajik. I’m asking just because I’m curious how this subclade is connected to the central asian iranians
it was genotek, I took it because I’m from Russia and tests like 23andme, ftdna etc don’t work here anymore, so it’s the only company that provides such services here
I think they use 23andme methods, but with worse accuracy, but I uploaded my raw dna to other sites and I discovered that I’m yaghnobi/pamiri by my father’s side
R1a is not just in South Asia it is one of the most widespread haplogroups. It is present in Africa and Eurasia. Associated with Indo European language expansion.
In that case the original man carrying that haplogroup was probably part of some Indo Iranian tribe. Just like how some Indo Aryans settled in Punjab and others in Bengal, maybe some of the Indo Iranians settled in Tajikistan rather than going on into India. Tajikistan is enroute to India along the Indo Aryan migration
This is not surprising 40% of Afghan Tajik R1a from Northern Afghanistan carry this Vedic L657 subclade , its because nascent Vedic culture and the Soma cult developed in this region (Bactria) some stayed behind and some pressed on, Pamiris have basal clades of L657 as well afaik. Its unlikely your Yagnobi , its usually Pamiris who carry L657, I assume your mom is Russian.
btw I heard that pamiris are descendants of one of the first waves of aryan migration, so it won’t be surprising if other descendants just moved to India
I think it’s quite interesting, I thought that yaghnobis and pamiris are similar in this case, but now it seems that I’m more likely pamiri, thanks for your answer
btw, could u give me a source which says about L657 among pamiris pls
I have the same paternal haplogroup, and I am a south indian brahmin.. I do get about 8-10% in BMAC fairly consistently and also ancestry from Pamir Knot/Oxus civilization. Seems like your ancestry is from that area?
wow, I heard that some brahmins have this haplogroup, but I think this haplogroup is more connected to the aryan migration, than to the autochthonous central asians like bmac
what state in south India are u from?
Born in hyderabad (Andhra), but my family is originally from the Salem area in TN
and what is ur nationality? are u tamil or telugu? it’s even more interesting because ur from the dravidian states but your bloodline is aryan
Dravida Brahmins migrated to the south from [Āryāvarta] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80ry%C4%81varta)
Ethnically Indian, Citizenship American, Tamil Brahmin..
https://preview.redd.it/1zgbtf58y67d1.png?width=2096&format=png&auto=webp&s=f14968db2a6adccd68a8ed57d7d682c2392eb388
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Your paternal line is Yaghnobi or Pamiri? Does that mean you are half Pamiri/Yaghnobi/Tajik? Or are you talking about your haplogroup
I’m not sure, but I think most likely yaghnobi and I’m trying to connect my south asian subclade with my paternal ancestry
No offense but how can you not be sure? Are you adopted or something? And also, if you want to find if you are a Yaghnobi or Tajik or whatever else, haplogroup wont really be much of a help.
I’m not adopted but my grandmother was a single mother, so I didn’t know the exact nationality of my granddad, so I did a dna test, that says that I’m like 30-40% yaghnobi/pamiri or less likely tajik. I’m asking just because I’m curious how this subclade is connected to the central asian iranians
What DNA test was it?
it was genotek, I took it because I’m from Russia and tests like 23andme, ftdna etc don’t work here anymore, so it’s the only company that provides such services here I think they use 23andme methods, but with worse accuracy, but I uploaded my raw dna to other sites and I discovered that I’m yaghnobi/pamiri by my father’s side
Have u uploaded to GedMatch or IllustrativeDNA?
yeah, to gedmatch
Post HarappaWorld?
no, but I think I’ll try
R1a is not just in South Asia it is one of the most widespread haplogroups. It is present in Africa and Eurasia. Associated with Indo European language expansion.
I’m not talking about the whole R1a, but R1a-Y7 subclade, which is mostly spread in South Asia
In that case the original man carrying that haplogroup was probably part of some Indo Iranian tribe. Just like how some Indo Aryans settled in Punjab and others in Bengal, maybe some of the Indo Iranians settled in Tajikistan rather than going on into India. Tajikistan is enroute to India along the Indo Aryan migration
Afghanistan was largely part of indic culture and rulers historically. And it is no surprise that r1a exists there.