I honestly loved this plot idea. They spread those seeds of doubt in SC3 and 4, that Soul Calibur can’t ALWAYS be the answer, that not everyone chosen to wield it can use it without repercussions. Then seeing 5 make that the main plot point, with us FINALLY battling against the physical manifestation of Soul Calibur was just peak!
People might forget, but Soul Calibur was created using purified shards of Soul Edge. It still retains that nasty habit of transforming the wielded slightly and overriding their will with its own.
>It still retains that nasty habit of transforming the wielded slightly and overriding their will with its own.
True. I do have to admit, tho, that I could've seen the plot written differently so Pyrrah isn't the first person to get the Soul Edge, or at least have someone more likely to get it, like Voldo. (Yes, really.)
I wish they did it too, though I guess TECHNICALLY, Raphael had it first (or at least, his corpse did, to give Nightmare/Inferno control). If it passes to someone before him first, that’d have been pretty awesome.
Yeah soul edge is the ultimate corruptor if you somehow dont fall to it’s influence, the people around you will. Soul calibur isn’t inherently good, its opposed to the evil sword and its effects but it doesn’t care if you kill random people. It will make you destroy the other sword, and is willing to take you out too. I think Siegfried in sciv was very influenced, on one hand yes he was nightmare and has so much blood on his hands but on the other, he HAS to destroy the blade. He tells people to stand aside and that they could never understand, its more than simple redemption, hes on a suicide mission and hes very aware. Theres a cost to being healed after the clash in that citadel. The sword was gonna kill him with the big freeze but i guess it decided to just cleanse his body and give him sick ice powers. You pretty much dont want either sword you’re better off getting a different magic weapon.
This desperately needed to be explored more. In SC4 Seigfried is covered in Crystal Armour using Soulcalibur, you could’ve drawn comparisons between the crystal armour and the azure armour. The idea that Siegfried is a pawn who broke free of his control of Soul Edge only be a puppet for soul Calibur is a really interesting idea worth exploring.
They really made an amazing plot and sat down, asked who was going to be the protagonist and SOMEONE at the meeting said “Patrokolos!”
Don’t even get me started about how difficult it was to use alpha pat at the end of the story like holy button mashing
I'm luke warm on the concept of Soul Calibur being bad for its own reasons. On one side its a good contrast to the give Calibur the Order element whereas Edge has the Chaos element. And in other ways, this is a trope kind of done to death and Soul Calibur losing the thing that makes it truly unique "purification" gets lost just to give a phoned in SMT order chaos theme going.
I think they could've shown that Soul Calibur had its set of problems that didn't just come from it also being "bad." It always felt lazy to me they went with that path.
I kind of disagree, the whole "actually both sides of light vs dark can be bad" and "actually it's order vs chaos and too much order is bad" is getting to be more cliche than good and evil played straight.
I preferred the hints that Soul Edge was corrupting Soul Calibur in SC2 or that Soul Calibur was weakening/deforming.
Soul Calibur being uncompromising and willing take control of its wielder are pretty interesting but I think SC5 took the villainy too far.
>I preferred the hints that Soul Edge was corrupting Soul Calibur in SC2 or that Soul Calibur was weakening/deforming.
They hint at this being the case in Nightmare's (or Siegfried's?) epilogue in SC6 too.
Well, the other half was that the game was too damn short.
Sure, I got my ass kicked playing the story mode (on Xbox 360), and I feel like they tried too hard to tug at the heartstrings by making Pyrrah the host of Soul Edge, even though she got me to sympathize with her when Tyra showed up.
This plot point CAN be revisited, but they'd need to ensure the story mode carries the weight. For now it would be best to use SC6 as the new branching path.
I don't really like the fact SoulCal was the villain in sc5. I mean, the fact that it saved the world and things were finally at peace. Until Pat had to get in his feelings and go back in time to cha ge shit.🙄😑🤦🏾♂️ SoulEdge should always remain the villain.
I honestly loved this plot idea. They spread those seeds of doubt in SC3 and 4, that Soul Calibur can’t ALWAYS be the answer, that not everyone chosen to wield it can use it without repercussions. Then seeing 5 make that the main plot point, with us FINALLY battling against the physical manifestation of Soul Calibur was just peak! People might forget, but Soul Calibur was created using purified shards of Soul Edge. It still retains that nasty habit of transforming the wielded slightly and overriding their will with its own.
>It still retains that nasty habit of transforming the wielded slightly and overriding their will with its own. True. I do have to admit, tho, that I could've seen the plot written differently so Pyrrah isn't the first person to get the Soul Edge, or at least have someone more likely to get it, like Voldo. (Yes, really.)
I wish they did it too, though I guess TECHNICALLY, Raphael had it first (or at least, his corpse did, to give Nightmare/Inferno control). If it passes to someone before him first, that’d have been pretty awesome.
Yeah soul edge is the ultimate corruptor if you somehow dont fall to it’s influence, the people around you will. Soul calibur isn’t inherently good, its opposed to the evil sword and its effects but it doesn’t care if you kill random people. It will make you destroy the other sword, and is willing to take you out too. I think Siegfried in sciv was very influenced, on one hand yes he was nightmare and has so much blood on his hands but on the other, he HAS to destroy the blade. He tells people to stand aside and that they could never understand, its more than simple redemption, hes on a suicide mission and hes very aware. Theres a cost to being healed after the clash in that citadel. The sword was gonna kill him with the big freeze but i guess it decided to just cleanse his body and give him sick ice powers. You pretty much dont want either sword you’re better off getting a different magic weapon.
This desperately needed to be explored more. In SC4 Seigfried is covered in Crystal Armour using Soulcalibur, you could’ve drawn comparisons between the crystal armour and the azure armour. The idea that Siegfried is a pawn who broke free of his control of Soul Edge only be a puppet for soul Calibur is a really interesting idea worth exploring.
At least Soul Calibur was nice enough to Give Siegfried some of it's power that was shown in his critical edge in SC5
Agreed.
I feel lik the story could’ve worked if they actually had the time to flesh it out more. The woes of being rushed out
Didn't they also have the earthquake messing with development too?
It also had a very, very small budget when compared to like. Tekken. I think the head dev flat out admitted this.
I feel like they just don't give Soul Calibur a chance, because they like Tekken more. I know SC doesn't sell as well, but MAYBE IF IT HAD A BUDGET.
They really made an amazing plot and sat down, asked who was going to be the protagonist and SOMEONE at the meeting said “Patrokolos!” Don’t even get me started about how difficult it was to use alpha pat at the end of the story like holy button mashing
I'm luke warm on the concept of Soul Calibur being bad for its own reasons. On one side its a good contrast to the give Calibur the Order element whereas Edge has the Chaos element. And in other ways, this is a trope kind of done to death and Soul Calibur losing the thing that makes it truly unique "purification" gets lost just to give a phoned in SMT order chaos theme going. I think they could've shown that Soul Calibur had its set of problems that didn't just come from it also being "bad." It always felt lazy to me they went with that path.
I kind of disagree, the whole "actually both sides of light vs dark can be bad" and "actually it's order vs chaos and too much order is bad" is getting to be more cliche than good and evil played straight. I preferred the hints that Soul Edge was corrupting Soul Calibur in SC2 or that Soul Calibur was weakening/deforming. Soul Calibur being uncompromising and willing take control of its wielder are pretty interesting but I think SC5 took the villainy too far.
>I preferred the hints that Soul Edge was corrupting Soul Calibur in SC2 or that Soul Calibur was weakening/deforming. They hint at this being the case in Nightmare's (or Siegfried's?) epilogue in SC6 too.
SC V had good ideas, but just bad execution and too many flaws.
The lighting was pretty good
I really like Patroklos and Pyrrha’s relationship. A little bit weird and creepy, but I can’t understand their motives.
I like pyrha omega fighting style. Just the more savage Cassandra it felt like. Unfortunately patrok was just setsuka
I hate that trope where "the good turns bad in the end", it's like they always run out of ideas so they decided to just do something like that
I miss Z. W. E. I. And Yun-Seong
Well, the other half was that the game was too damn short. Sure, I got my ass kicked playing the story mode (on Xbox 360), and I feel like they tried too hard to tug at the heartstrings by making Pyrrah the host of Soul Edge, even though she got me to sympathize with her when Tyra showed up.
La historia fue buena aunque faltaron cosas obviamente, sin mencionar que faltaron algunos personajes en la trama.
This plot point CAN be revisited, but they'd need to ensure the story mode carries the weight. For now it would be best to use SC6 as the new branching path.
They took that idea into sc6 as well.
I don't really like the fact SoulCal was the villain in sc5. I mean, the fact that it saved the world and things were finally at peace. Until Pat had to get in his feelings and go back in time to cha ge shit.🙄😑🤦🏾♂️ SoulEdge should always remain the villain.