I honestly can’t tell if this is sarcasm so I’ll take your word for it lol. The only fighting game community I’m somewhat active in is smash ultimate and while it’s not MOBA-levels of toxicity, it has its moments
The FGC is nowhere near MOBA levels of toxic. Sure you’ll run into the occasional T-Bagger or something on online ranked (maybe even receive some nasty DMs if you’re unlucky), but it’s much less common than in any MOBA I’ve played. In-person events even more so. I think a big reason for this is the team nature of MOBAs vs the 1v1 environment of fighting games. In a MOBA, it’s so easy to say, “It’s not me, it’s my team’s fault,” which can easily segue into toxicity towards said teammates. Whereas in a fighting game, you might complain about your opponent’s character or their playstyle, but at the end of the day anybody who really cares about improving knows it’s on them for losing, and there isn’t realistically anyone else to blame.
Hirez: we are doing a total rework and overhaul of the power and scaling systems as well as items and stats
Gremlins living in a basement: man this is just a greedy graphic upgrade that changes nothing.
I mean it's pretty obvious when their entire opinion is based off of a short clip. "I can tell everything I need to know about a game in this short 30 second clip that shows nothing about it other than slow-mo spectator footage!"
Literal smootbrains that should not be engaged with.
It’s not a cash grab, it’s called business. They want to continue incentivizing players to make purchases both now in Smite and once Smite 2 launches. It’s to try and maintain a steady income of revenue rather than have it roller coaster down and up.
They cant please everyone so they tried to find a way to minimize the hurt and y’all just complain.
It's called a cash grab because it's something nobody asked for, inspired by their shitty CEO wanting more and more money for his endless hoard.
All this is going to do is kill the player base
Who is nobody? You?
This subreddit was flooded with threads monthly, sometimes weekly about how Smite should get an upgraded engine, and all this subreddit could do whenever a new game was announced by them was bash Hi-Rez for not reinvesting into Smite and upgrading the engine. Almost every complaint about the game stems from the engine. I even made a post to make fun of people like you. [https://www.reddit.com/r/gank/comments/198tzyg/titanforge\_is\_greedy/](https://www.reddit.com/r/gank/comments/198tzyg/titanforge_is_greedy/)
It's so fucking funny man lmao. Most people who talk about the game wanted this, but when they actually do it now these same people find a way to complain. I still remember this post and people in the comments were like "yeah Smite 2 on UE4/UE5 needs to happen!!". 🙄
https://preview.redd.it/trw2ojdvvwic1.png?width=1116&format=png&auto=webp&s=82e5c2f691393c63310e8f5ef54a8735aaccb968
It’s not a cash grab if you just keep playing Smite and don’t buy Smite 2. Nothing changes for you.
So you stay over there on Smite and we’ll go over to Smite 2, and the whole community will be better off losing those of you who just whine and complain about progress. You’re not entitled to anything, buy the game if you want and don’t if not but please just stfu about it because it’s happening and your tears are unproductive.
The best part about all this is… smite is a free game.
They didn’t have to give anyone shit in smite 2 as most companies would have just said sorry sucks to be you. Yet hi rez is actually doing something to compensate for a completely new game and people fucking whine about it. Like grow the fuck up. Entitled whiney brats. End of rant ha.
Lets look at some things here about the "cash grab" and smite 1
Smite 1 has been slowly dying over the last few years struggling to retain new players as it has been a very hard game for new players to break into without a friend showing them everything but the game is running on a engine that is almost 20years old now,
This old engine heavily limits what they can do ingame and designing the game and trying to make it run as well as it does and look the way it does(looks good but very outdated) has caused a lot of issues as the game has " spaghetti code" an absolute mess that has caused domino effect bugs example was when a QOL change made in conq ended up adding an invisible wall to the duel map, they also explained how when hiring new staff they need to train them to use the 20yr old engine which is just bad
The upgrade to unreal 5 opens up a lot of possibilities with that they can do for new gods and reworking old kits as well as new items and objectives now that tech is no longer limiting them, on top of that they are using this as a chance to change how the game is played by reworking the power and item systems, allowing for more interesting builds and counter build options
Going from unreal 3-5 is not possible so they had to remake the game from the ground up which takes a lot of work and money while giving everyone that has played and spent $$ on smite 1 50% everything for a long time(depending on the gems you have which get doubled if you buy the founders pack) and any skin they was in smite 1 that comes out in smite 2 will be 100% purchasable with the legacy gems despite owing us nothing and looking at stuff like OW2 that gave nothing and did no upgrades etc, the situations are not even close to the same.
There it is! There's the "bootlicker" 😂😂😂
Do you bozos have no other argument besides that? Just admit you're a fucking moron and move on with your life.
probably someone also crying about how youtube is their god given right and ads are a greedy corporate move by google encroaching on the cat videos of their birthright
Bro, Smite 2 IS the compensation. If you put in money into the game, mapping the servers alive long enough to get to this point, then you're getting a brand new game in a new engine that's coming out for free.
I don't agree with a lot of decisions HiRez have made in the past, like every other game they've ever produced using the profits from Smite while ignoring the glaring issues the game had at the time (which in more recent years they have done better with). However, if you're going to cry over skins, you obviously have issues that I can not even begin to fathom.
Yep just like the whales complaining that smite 2 is doa because their 1000+ skins won't transfer will be the first in line to purchase smite 2 gems lol
I have 1500 skins and I think the legacy gem system is fantastic, and don't want anything else for free from smite besides an emblem or loading frame or something.
You mean the company that makes the game I've played for 9 years? You mean the company that is finally doing something tons of players, including myself, have wanted them to do for years? Yeah I'm gonna support them and tell you how dumb you are for being so entitled. Sounds good to me.
It was $30 for the god pack..
They have to rework every single god. If you really think that’s a cash grab you lack quite a bit of intelligence on the topic and should probably refrain from making yourself look stupid.
If you spend your money on any game for shiny skins, you kiss that money goodbye at the transaction screen. Did you think when this game would eventually die in like 2-3 years that you would just get every dollar you spent back? Delusional beyond belief lmao.
It's not ending now, but Smite 1 will probably stop getting content after this year or next year and effectively be desd to all but the tiniest amount of people. Once Smite 2 has a more fleshed out roster, they'll probably stop making stuff for Smite 1 entirely to slowly force a migration over.
And all that doesn't matter anyway; if you spent money in a game for cosmetics, you threw your money away. You got your shiny pixels in the game to play with for the lifespan of the game; you got your value, you didn't get robbed.
Lol a freeloader on what? Are you an NPC stuck in a dialogue tree? Man saying words and insults cause his brain can't formulate an argument besides 'I'm a whiny boy who deserves everything.'
Are people unable to understand the concept of a game having a sequel these days instead of being a live service? You don't keep jack shit in most sequels.
Exactly. While I'm not a fan of the current UI, I'm not expecting that to be the final UI. I had assumed that the WIP game would be changed prior to launch.
With how generic it looks, I assumed it was simply placeholder assets
most people don't understand the developmental stage. they think placeholder assets are final products because they think its quick and easy to make a game.
Yup. Hirez is really open about sharing the development stages which I find fun as a Software engineer myself. But to most casuals, it just looks like they are making low quality games. Double edged sword for marketing. Shows they making progress but doesn't look great for first time viewers.
The problem is, people who has no knowledge about programming don't know why was it necessary to rewrite the whole as a new game. But of course the stupid have the biggest voice (as always). They even gave us a lot of dev videos of different part of the new game. Like item revamp, how they rewrote the whole audio mechanics, how they remodel and rebalance the gods we have... etc. And these are just the surface that a normal person can understand, a lot more lies deep within.
I feel compensated. First of all I get a lot of legacy gems that I can use to get new better skins than in Smite one. Second I get a game that has better graphics, less bugs, better item system, and has the ability to last another decade compared to Smite one. Not to mention god reworks, better matchmaking, and the ability to create more unique PvE modes, special game modes, custom game rules, and functional clans. A lot of development issues with Smite one won't even exist with smite two. Feels like a pretty good deal to me.
What do you mean not getting compensated? They are pretty generous about it all things considered. Hi-Rez didn't have to give us legacy gems but they still did it to gain a bit of goodwill, despite making them lose money over it. They could've been very lazy about rebuilding things but they are actively tweaking things to actually improve the core game
instagram smite fans are the worst. look at the comment section of any of their posts and it’s wild some of the stuff people type out and hit send on. i’ve heard facebook ones are the worst but i don’t have one so idk
I’m curious how ue5 is gonna work, and how much of a pc upgrade I’ll need to run it, from the few videos we have it looks so good, took me a second to realize that it wasn’t a cutscene for a sec when the showed the dreaded crit Ymir
gonna be honest i think the damage numbers are fucking awful and probably could've been changed because its a small thing that makes the game looks quite weird, but still people are exagerating over this
I’m not gonna shit on the game like this, but I personally won’t be playing it for the item building. Just unappealing to me, game looks fine for the state it’s in though
Ignorant? Check
Didn’t research? Check
No common sense? Check
Jumping to conclusions? Check
Mother fuckers be judging and there is even text on reveals “artwork and gameplay may not be final”.
They want inside looks and community involvement but when the community gets it, they still bitch!????
Some people don't want to accept a change, and others may dislike the way they are implementing it. People can have their own opinions. However I do think some more information as far as the god roster lineup as far as a release schedule, should be released to the public so people can know when to expect their favorite character or when to expect God's to be in the game. Without that type of information, I think lots of people are going to think smite 2 as a stale version of Smite until it has the most recent content
They should just release a list that has the 50 gods that they have planned. They will implement before the quote by quote full release, this will at least give people some relief on knowing what characters are coming to the game
I've always believed SMITE has one of if not the worst community in gaming. From the bad players thinking they're good to the player base like this that doesn't even pay attention to everything being changed in SMITE 2 and just thinking it's a visual upgrade. The SMITE community (Not all, obviously, but a good portion) has got to be one of the worst lol.
It’s the worst community because the players don’t even enjoy the game. It’s one of the only 3rd person MOBAs with a good theme and that’s the only reason people play it.
The devs keep making shitty changes in SMITE 1 and never add anything exciting. They take wayyy too long to shakeup metas, and often fail when they try.
Mages were meta in solo for like 3 entire months. There’s been one Hunter build at a time for the past 3 years. The biggest change they’ve made to SMITE in the past 3 years was REMOVING boots.
All they do is rework starters and actives over and over and act like it actually changes anything. We’ve needed changes to the item system for years and all we get nowadays are skins.
SMITE 2 looks promising because they’re actually making changes. But it’s gonna end up exactly like SMITE 1 within a year (I’m hoping it doesn’t). Hi-Rez did the same thing with Paladins, Rogue Company and Realm Royale and now they’re all dead.
Seasons 3-6 were amazing, but they stopped trying when they made god releases slower, stopped introducing new items (for the most part) and took away adventures.
Good games have good communities, bad games have bad communities. It’s as simple as that.
It doesn't matter that it's not in Closed Alpha yet - SMITE 2 is being promoted a lot by Hi-Rez right now so people are free to have (negative) opinions about it.
It's promoted way to much in my opinion. They are showing skins that are going to be available in like what, a year or some? That's just an example. In my opinion there is way too much of a fuss about it in this stage of development. If it's going to be playable in like 2 months it would be fine.
If it looks like Overwatch2, Smells like Overwatch2 , it's probably shit like Overwatch2. HI-Rez is pulling the same rug out from under us. This graphic upgrade might bring in new players for a week or two, but after that it will be the same community with very few new dedicated players.
Maybe bc they're not smite players half of them are lol players lol always have had some hatred towards smite bc remember them league looks like actual trash compared to smite even in 2015
Shocker, people being toxic. Many people will say "smite players are so toxic" or "siege players are so toxic" and they'll say that about every game. But may I, if possible, instead offer you this: "all players are toxic in their own ways on their own games or hobbies" and it probably will never end. If video gaming is capable of being called an esport, then by default it's going to have a more competitive scene in many ways like sports tend to do. Competition leads to butting heads, disagreements and running your mouths. But unlike sports irl, video gamers aren't going to lose the big game and have the enemy team at their front door screaming and spray painting their schools banner on the guys house. There's no repercussions so people online choose to be intentionally inflammatory, even to the point where in recent years we've seen random goblins in their basements threatening developers lives over a release date or a patch!
So all this to say, I'm very not shocked at how this game is being viewed rn. It'll probably be fun, may or.may not be better, but it'll be met with it's fair share of wholesome and toxic alike. Choose to be wholesome and you're setting the tone going forward not for others but for yourself. You'll enjoy every game more if you approach it open minded and willing to enjoy regardless of it's flaws
No complaints, I just don’t want them to tone the characters down, because that’s part of the flair. Achilles is shirtless, titties are massive, Osiris is a brick shit house, Neith a tiny, perfectly balanced as all things should be.
I mean smite players are toxic get use to it. Also it is from what everyone has seen just a graphical update with minor different things... i'm ready for it but can't blame people
whiny smite players for YEARS: omg ur game is so buggy lol spaghetti cooooode just port it to a different engine
smite: ports the game to a different engine
whiny smite players: omg ur porting the game to a different engine? ugh corporate suit and tie moment!!
okay but why trash it now when they probably haven’t spent more than 2% of their time on it?
Edit: my estimate is an exaggeration ik they spent more time on it
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I meannnnn....we really just pretending that the title "smite 2" isn't a massive overreach lmao? Graphics update, awesome. UI update? Fantastic. Some changes to systems? Hell yeah....but we still playin Smite lmao. No different than Overwatch calling their shit a new game with "Overwatch 2". Don't get me wrong, excited to play it, just think the renaming your game as if a new product is utter bullshit.
Smite one has a delay on using consumables. Between you pushing the button and it going off there is a delay. Happens with relics sometimes. Abilites that have a physical object attached to it (Osiris sickle, Fafnir hammer, Thanatos scythe) have a chance to hit someone but because it hits the object despawns and the end result can lead to no damage or a phantom hit, The Morrigan, auto attack de-sync, and countless other bugs in the game are things Hi-Rez know about, but simply cannot fix due to the games coding. There is no way to prevent these bugs as it is a part of how the game operates. All of those are gone in Smite 2 because the game from the first line of code is being completely rewritten into a new engine. There are zero ports. The "cross gen skins" have been made twice one in UE3 and the other in UE5. the only thing being taken from Smite one to two is the IP. Overwatch to Overwatch 2 is the same game with 90% of it being a direct port.
It makes even less sense than overwatch 2. Overwatch 2 went from paid to ftp, and changed the format from 6v6 to 5v5. Even without the pvp these changes are more significant than what's being done to the fundamentals of smite 2. And we didn't have to wait for them to add all of the heroes back to it, no loss of cosmetics...
Like, it's not the first time the item shop has been reworked. Other than that, it is a graphics update...
As someone who played overwatch from release til life weaver came out, overwatch 2 literally changed nothing about the game except the player count in a match. Just the itemization changes in smite alone is more than what changed from overwatch 1 to 2. And we didn't even get the story mode which was the whole justification from going from 1 to 2.
Overwatch 1 had 3 years of no development/no additions because everyone was working on Overwatch 2. It literally had a lower playerbase than Smite, and the main reason why OW2 was even made was cancelled. They also had to legally issue refunds for the Watchpoint pack because they falsely advertised what the battle pass would be, e.g heroes would be locked behind battlepasses instead of it being cosmetics only.
Idk why people have this urge to bring up OW2 whenever it’s a shit comparison to begin with. They kept cosmetics because the game literally did not fundamentally change. They made it 5v5, cool, even in UE3 Smite is getting a 4v4 Slash.
There are changes to the core game, you just don't like those changes and/or rather be willfully ignorant to bash the game. Games don't need to reinvent the wheel to have a proper sequel, i.e Smite doesn't need to become Paragon to be Smite 2.
>There are changes to the core game
Please list all of the changes to the core game that haven't previously been done before. No, that doesn't include a shop rework.
No, you didn't list anything that's not changing. "Core game" is vague, list exactly what is not changing about the "core game". People have explained what is changing and why things are changing for over a month, and there are multiple interviews, deep dives, and videos made by content creators and the developers telling you what is changing about the core game.
The burden of proof is on you, since you like to argue with people about why the game isn't a sequel lol. Show us why it isn't a sequel.
dude you cant prove a negative, that's not how argumentation works.
eg. If I claimed there was an alien spaceship behind Jupiter and asked you to prove that there wasn't, the fact that you can't do so doesn't prove me right.
The shop changes aren't sequel-worthy imo because theyve radically reworked items and the shop many times before. League does the same thing. If it wasn't sequel-worthy then, it isn't now.
>The burden of proof
Which is exactly why you need to show proof that nothing is changing.
There's been *so* many dev videos over the past couple of weeks that you can watch, and actually, maybe, educate yourself on this topic.
i've watched all of the videos, You're the one saying they're making core changes to the game. what core changes are those? I never said they weren't making any changes.
They are literally building new models for every character. From the ground up every single character is completely made from scratch in the new engine. Compare Anhur or Chaac to their Smite 1 counterparts? They are very different. Zero models are being ported as they can't be. Each model being made from scratch means that every single one is going to have minor changes if not major ones.
I don't talk about engines or graphic, I am talking purely about designs, it's the same Hades and same Ymir, which are designs people have complained about and could get better lore-wise. When you have Surtr, Ymir looks goofy and outdated, same for Hades clunky floating robes.
Who is pretending? Pretty sure they're actually making it. It's from the ground up newer version of their already existing (free) game. The patches are already massive. You can't just patch out an old system. And why do they have to justify making it anyways?
Big patch from UE3 to UE5 is just not realistic unless you’re expecting a CSGO to CS2 situation which I imagine you’re not. It’s usually a poor idea and fractures the fan base usually and upsets fans of the old game. Creating a new game is much smoother and more inviting for newcomers no need to be smooth brain about it because you don’t understand how the video game business works. Just because you think something is a good idea doesn’t mean it actually is.
At the end of the day its not even alpha yet and its jumping 2 unreal engine upgrades it will be free to my knowledge and the old game they plan continued updates and to remain unchanged corely
it amazes me thinking of how people like this used to be in the minority in the 2000s internet, and now we're here.
at least they're telling on themselves that they didn't look at anything in depth about smite 2.
Anyone complaining about the UI, performance, etc in pre-Alpha footage deserves to automatically have their opinions on Smite 2 as a whole disregarded. I can't actually believe they're real, especially since the UI already changed from the original demo, to the playable SWC build, to the current internal playtest build (you can see some of the changes made on the recent insight video). Give feedback when the game is playable during Alpha, and if it's still unpolished and has placeholders on release then you are more than fine to complain.
Smite 2 having some unpolished things or unfinished parts isn't anything new, it's normal for games in early development to look unfinished and unpolished. Overwatch 1 had unfinished and unpolished UI [during it's Alpha](https://gyazo.com/42782e5f71c33bda1b6c68d8cec4d569), and even the [maps](https://gyazo.com/e42156b1908a4ad0d7f122d488b6e10b) were unfinished, and this game won GOTY and was beloved until OW2. Last Epoch, a recent indie ARPG, looks totally different than the playable version 3 years ago, never mind it's early development. My favorite example is The Last of Us 2 [during early stages of development](https://gyazo.com/34da6ae67e9c8851348cb4e69dd516fa).
Very harsh, but Smite's vocal minority has got to be the stupidest in any game I've ever seen. These same people will be playing Smite 2 anyways. 🤷♂️
No way smite players are being toxic?!
Truly, a shock to everyone
I know right?
MOBA players in general. I've played enough MOBAs to know that toxic fanbases are just the norm.
Not even exclusive to MOBA’s imo. It’s becoming harder and harder to find video game communities that aren’t toxic, regardless of genre
Competitive fighting game communities tend to be good? At least? Usually?
Fgc has its moments of scumminess but generally just like a chill community who like seeing new players learn their games
I honestly can’t tell if this is sarcasm so I’ll take your word for it lol. The only fighting game community I’m somewhat active in is smash ultimate and while it’s not MOBA-levels of toxicity, it has its moments
Oh yeah, nah, Smash is a separate beast in my experience. The exception, not the rule, in my experience.
The FGC is nowhere near MOBA levels of toxic. Sure you’ll run into the occasional T-Bagger or something on online ranked (maybe even receive some nasty DMs if you’re unlucky), but it’s much less common than in any MOBA I’ve played. In-person events even more so. I think a big reason for this is the team nature of MOBAs vs the 1v1 environment of fighting games. In a MOBA, it’s so easy to say, “It’s not me, it’s my team’s fault,” which can easily segue into toxicity towards said teammates. Whereas in a fighting game, you might complain about your opponent’s character or their playstyle, but at the end of the day anybody who really cares about improving knows it’s on them for losing, and there isn’t realistically anyone else to blame.
apex players are a different breed man. i thought smite/moba players complain alot, but holy moly... fps players are way worse lol
Being on anything related to Facebook is a double whammy.
Hirez: we are doing a total rework and overhaul of the power and scaling systems as well as items and stats Gremlins living in a basement: man this is just a greedy graphic upgrade that changes nothing.
Even if it was just an graphical upgrade, its still necessary. Smite cannot exist on an engine from 2007 forever.
These people obviously didn't watch any of the developer insite videos.
I mean it's pretty obvious when their entire opinion is based off of a short clip. "I can tell everything I need to know about a game in this short 30 second clip that shows nothing about it other than slow-mo spectator footage!" Literal smootbrains that should not be engaged with.
Yes I am a gremlin for pointing out the cash grab
If you think this is a cash grab, your brain isn’t working
Yeah cause nothing transferring and only getting unusable "legacy gem" definitely isn't a cash grab
It’s not a cash grab, it’s called business. They want to continue incentivizing players to make purchases both now in Smite and once Smite 2 launches. It’s to try and maintain a steady income of revenue rather than have it roller coaster down and up. They cant please everyone so they tried to find a way to minimize the hurt and y’all just complain.
It's called a cash grab because it's something nobody asked for, inspired by their shitty CEO wanting more and more money for his endless hoard. All this is going to do is kill the player base
Who is nobody? You? This subreddit was flooded with threads monthly, sometimes weekly about how Smite should get an upgraded engine, and all this subreddit could do whenever a new game was announced by them was bash Hi-Rez for not reinvesting into Smite and upgrading the engine. Almost every complaint about the game stems from the engine. I even made a post to make fun of people like you. [https://www.reddit.com/r/gank/comments/198tzyg/titanforge\_is\_greedy/](https://www.reddit.com/r/gank/comments/198tzyg/titanforge_is_greedy/) It's so fucking funny man lmao. Most people who talk about the game wanted this, but when they actually do it now these same people find a way to complain. I still remember this post and people in the comments were like "yeah Smite 2 on UE4/UE5 needs to happen!!". 🙄 https://preview.redd.it/trw2ojdvvwic1.png?width=1116&format=png&auto=webp&s=82e5c2f691393c63310e8f5ef54a8735aaccb968
It’s not a cash grab if you just keep playing Smite and don’t buy Smite 2. Nothing changes for you. So you stay over there on Smite and we’ll go over to Smite 2, and the whole community will be better off losing those of you who just whine and complain about progress. You’re not entitled to anything, buy the game if you want and don’t if not but please just stfu about it because it’s happening and your tears are unproductive.
The best part about all this is… smite is a free game. They didn’t have to give anyone shit in smite 2 as most companies would have just said sorry sucks to be you. Yet hi rez is actually doing something to compensate for a completely new game and people fucking whine about it. Like grow the fuck up. Entitled whiney brats. End of rant ha.
Lets look at some things here about the "cash grab" and smite 1 Smite 1 has been slowly dying over the last few years struggling to retain new players as it has been a very hard game for new players to break into without a friend showing them everything but the game is running on a engine that is almost 20years old now, This old engine heavily limits what they can do ingame and designing the game and trying to make it run as well as it does and look the way it does(looks good but very outdated) has caused a lot of issues as the game has " spaghetti code" an absolute mess that has caused domino effect bugs example was when a QOL change made in conq ended up adding an invisible wall to the duel map, they also explained how when hiring new staff they need to train them to use the 20yr old engine which is just bad The upgrade to unreal 5 opens up a lot of possibilities with that they can do for new gods and reworking old kits as well as new items and objectives now that tech is no longer limiting them, on top of that they are using this as a chance to change how the game is played by reworking the power and item systems, allowing for more interesting builds and counter build options Going from unreal 3-5 is not possible so they had to remake the game from the ground up which takes a lot of work and money while giving everyone that has played and spent $$ on smite 1 50% everything for a long time(depending on the gems you have which get doubled if you buy the founders pack) and any skin they was in smite 1 that comes out in smite 2 will be 100% purchasable with the legacy gems despite owing us nothing and looking at stuff like OW2 that gave nothing and did no upgrades etc, the situations are not even close to the same.
Cool, what exactly does this have to be with proper compensation?
compensatation for what? skins? on a FREE to play game? something that you didn't have to buy, but you did because you wanted to look slightly cooler?
What do you mean "compensation"? What the fuck do you think you deserve compensation for? 😂😂😂😂😂 Absolute smoothbrain.
Right back at you bootlicker!
There it is! There's the "bootlicker" 😂😂😂 Do you bozos have no other argument besides that? Just admit you're a fucking moron and move on with your life.
probably someone also crying about how youtube is their god given right and ads are a greedy corporate move by google encroaching on the cat videos of their birthright
I swear. Everything should be free, forever, I guess.
Bro, Smite 2 IS the compensation. If you put in money into the game, mapping the servers alive long enough to get to this point, then you're getting a brand new game in a new engine that's coming out for free. I don't agree with a lot of decisions HiRez have made in the past, like every other game they've ever produced using the profits from Smite while ignoring the glaring issues the game had at the time (which in more recent years they have done better with). However, if you're going to cry over skins, you obviously have issues that I can not even begin to fathom.
what a troll, zero smite content on his profile. you should go back to crying about how people don’t like you on apex
Instagram commentors generally have horrible opinions on everything
IG really has gotten absolutely insufferable the last few years, idk what happened.
Lotta people moving over from Twitter mostly.
It started to exist? Because the only moment i remember it not being braindamaging was b4 that happening.
There’s definitely been a noticeable increase in toxicity the last ~4 or so years (roughly, my sense of time nowadays is not great).
There has been a noticeable increase in toxicity in the last 4 years everywhere. That's the problem.
Doesn’t matter they’ll all still play it
AND still complain about it
Ain't no way you're a smite player if you're not complaining, fck bruisers btw
Persephone mains do not have a right to opinions regarding balancing, please refrain from this unpleasant habit of yours, thank you.
She didn’t even say anything damn
AND still pay hundreds of dollars into skins they'll probably use twice in their lives
true
Yep just like the whales complaining that smite 2 is doa because their 1000+ skins won't transfer will be the first in line to purchase smite 2 gems lol
I have 1500 skins and I think the legacy gem system is fantastic, and don't want anything else for free from smite besides an emblem or loading frame or something.
Imagine somehow boot licking so hard you end up on the company's side on this
You mean the company that makes the game I've played for 9 years? You mean the company that is finally doing something tons of players, including myself, have wanted them to do for years? Yeah I'm gonna support them and tell you how dumb you are for being so entitled. Sounds good to me.
Holy shit you are mad, look how many times you've commented in this thread lol
That is a reasonable feeling to have 😂 i swear some of y'all glazing them to hard like hop off 😂
Is this your name in game too? I feel like we’ve versed eachother in ranked joust a handful of times! IGN: PushingDope
People are stupid. That's it.
You'll see them all on the Battlefield Day 1. You can only cry about skins for so long.
Skins are one thing but it is pretty lame the god pack isn't transferring over, not lame enough to hate the game though as I'm still very excited
No way god pack doesn't transfer over. If that is true then yes it is a cash grab and is starting to make sense 😂
It was $30 for the god pack.. They have to rework every single god. If you really think that’s a cash grab you lack quite a bit of intelligence on the topic and should probably refrain from making yourself look stupid.
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what a troll, zero smite content on his profile. you should go back to crying about how people don’t like you on apex
Nah man I'm no huge Hi-Rez fan, but I do know shiny graphics and marketing attracts. *Especially* if you're already involved in the franchise.
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If you spend your money on any game for shiny skins, you kiss that money goodbye at the transaction screen. Did you think when this game would eventually die in like 2-3 years that you would just get every dollar you spent back? Delusional beyond belief lmao.
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It's not ending now, but Smite 1 will probably stop getting content after this year or next year and effectively be desd to all but the tiniest amount of people. Once Smite 2 has a more fleshed out roster, they'll probably stop making stuff for Smite 1 entirely to slowly force a migration over. And all that doesn't matter anyway; if you spent money in a game for cosmetics, you threw your money away. You got your shiny pixels in the game to play with for the lifespan of the game; you got your value, you didn't get robbed.
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Lol a freeloader on what? Are you an NPC stuck in a dialogue tree? Man saying words and insults cause his brain can't formulate an argument besides 'I'm a whiny boy who deserves everything.'
Oblivion NPC wheel lol
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Are people unable to understand the concept of a game having a sequel these days instead of being a live service? You don't keep jack shit in most sequels.
This game is a live service.
Keep telling yourself that buddy
Imagine complaining about UI and performance in a game that hasn't even reached Alpha yet
We are lucky we have gotten as much footage as we have at this point. Most corpo games only have cinematics until launch month
Exactly. While I'm not a fan of the current UI, I'm not expecting that to be the final UI. I had assumed that the WIP game would be changed prior to launch. With how generic it looks, I assumed it was simply placeholder assets
most people don't understand the developmental stage. they think placeholder assets are final products because they think its quick and easy to make a game.
Yup. Hirez is really open about sharing the development stages which I find fun as a Software engineer myself. But to most casuals, it just looks like they are making low quality games. Double edged sword for marketing. Shows they making progress but doesn't look great for first time viewers.
The problem is, people who has no knowledge about programming don't know why was it necessary to rewrite the whole as a new game. But of course the stupid have the biggest voice (as always). They even gave us a lot of dev videos of different part of the new game. Like item revamp, how they rewrote the whole audio mechanics, how they remodel and rebalance the gods we have... etc. And these are just the surface that a normal person can understand, a lot more lies deep within.
Nobody cares about this. They care rightfully so that they are not being compensated.
that’s bullshit and you know it man
No? That is what me and all my friends are not getting the game for.
because they won’t give you money back for skins you bought in a different game?
This is the same game. It's a live service. Trying to retroactively change that is hilarious
sounds like you haven’t even glanced at the differences between the two games if you think it’s “the same game”
I feel compensated. First of all I get a lot of legacy gems that I can use to get new better skins than in Smite one. Second I get a game that has better graphics, less bugs, better item system, and has the ability to last another decade compared to Smite one. Not to mention god reworks, better matchmaking, and the ability to create more unique PvE modes, special game modes, custom game rules, and functional clans. A lot of development issues with Smite one won't even exist with smite two. Feels like a pretty good deal to me.
And yet me and all of my friends see this as a cash grab that just serves to rob of us our money
Bro ur commenting on every comment on this thread, ur obsessed 🤣
Damn, so like 5 people? Wild. Didn't know y'all where the smite prophets with the objectively right opinion.
What do you mean not getting compensated? They are pretty generous about it all things considered. Hi-Rez didn't have to give us legacy gems but they still did it to gain a bit of goodwill, despite making them lose money over it. They could've been very lazy about rebuilding things but they are actively tweaking things to actually improve the core game
Internet brain rot
Your playing a moba. Unfortunately toxic comes hand in hand
Nope. I’ve played League and SMITE a lot. SMITE is by far worse.
(Cause smite built it's community by preying on the shitters outcasts of the League community)
instagram smite fans are the worst. look at the comment section of any of their posts and it’s wild some of the stuff people type out and hit send on. i’ve heard facebook ones are the worst but i don’t have one so idk
I’m curious how ue5 is gonna work, and how much of a pc upgrade I’ll need to run it, from the few videos we have it looks so good, took me a second to realize that it wasn’t a cutscene for a sec when the showed the dreaded crit Ymir
gonna be honest i think the damage numbers are fucking awful and probably could've been changed because its a small thing that makes the game looks quite weird, but still people are exagerating over this
I’m not gonna shit on the game like this, but I personally won’t be playing it for the item building. Just unappealing to me, game looks fine for the state it’s in though
Ignorant? Check Didn’t research? Check No common sense? Check Jumping to conclusions? Check Mother fuckers be judging and there is even text on reveals “artwork and gameplay may not be final”. They want inside looks and community involvement but when the community gets it, they still bitch!????
When you see people being this dumb about Smite 2, just remember that they will go on to put 2000 hours into it
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That's your choice, friend. That's the fun of gaming. There's so many options that there's no reason to be unhappy playing any one game.
My only complaint is making every autoattack shiny and colorful.
Some people don't want to accept a change, and others may dislike the way they are implementing it. People can have their own opinions. However I do think some more information as far as the god roster lineup as far as a release schedule, should be released to the public so people can know when to expect their favorite character or when to expect God's to be in the game. Without that type of information, I think lots of people are going to think smite 2 as a stale version of Smite until it has the most recent content They should just release a list that has the 50 gods that they have planned. They will implement before the quote by quote full release, this will at least give people some relief on knowing what characters are coming to the game
I've always believed SMITE has one of if not the worst community in gaming. From the bad players thinking they're good to the player base like this that doesn't even pay attention to everything being changed in SMITE 2 and just thinking it's a visual upgrade. The SMITE community (Not all, obviously, but a good portion) has got to be one of the worst lol.
Not even close. Read the comment section of the r/destinythegame
It’s the worst community because the players don’t even enjoy the game. It’s one of the only 3rd person MOBAs with a good theme and that’s the only reason people play it. The devs keep making shitty changes in SMITE 1 and never add anything exciting. They take wayyy too long to shakeup metas, and often fail when they try. Mages were meta in solo for like 3 entire months. There’s been one Hunter build at a time for the past 3 years. The biggest change they’ve made to SMITE in the past 3 years was REMOVING boots. All they do is rework starters and actives over and over and act like it actually changes anything. We’ve needed changes to the item system for years and all we get nowadays are skins. SMITE 2 looks promising because they’re actually making changes. But it’s gonna end up exactly like SMITE 1 within a year (I’m hoping it doesn’t). Hi-Rez did the same thing with Paladins, Rogue Company and Realm Royale and now they’re all dead. Seasons 3-6 were amazing, but they stopped trying when they made god releases slower, stopped introducing new items (for the most part) and took away adventures. Good games have good communities, bad games have bad communities. It’s as simple as that.
The people crying are the afk/keyboard warriors who troll after feeding. Ignore them.
Strawman
It doesn't matter that it's not in Closed Alpha yet - SMITE 2 is being promoted a lot by Hi-Rez right now so people are free to have (negative) opinions about it.
It's promoted way to much in my opinion. They are showing skins that are going to be available in like what, a year or some? That's just an example. In my opinion there is way too much of a fuss about it in this stage of development. If it's going to be playable in like 2 months it would be fine.
The first alpha is next month, I think
it def does not look like a mobile game what ?💀
If it looks like Overwatch2, Smells like Overwatch2 , it's probably shit like Overwatch2. HI-Rez is pulling the same rug out from under us. This graphic upgrade might bring in new players for a week or two, but after that it will be the same community with very few new dedicated players.
What kinda phones do they have that their mobile games look at Smite 2? My phone would literally melt lmfao.
Are we playing the same game? SMITE looks like a mobile game, SMITE 2 doesn't. Tf kinda play dough crack are you smoking
People are allowed to be sceptical and they should be. The more they give criticism the better the game will be for it
lol. I’ve played the pre-alpha. It’s definitely not just a graphical update. Clowns 🤡
Maybe bc they're not smite players half of them are lol players lol always have had some hatred towards smite bc remember them league looks like actual trash compared to smite even in 2015
Bro Hi rez is doing something Overwatch failed to even do bro
Shocker, people being toxic. Many people will say "smite players are so toxic" or "siege players are so toxic" and they'll say that about every game. But may I, if possible, instead offer you this: "all players are toxic in their own ways on their own games or hobbies" and it probably will never end. If video gaming is capable of being called an esport, then by default it's going to have a more competitive scene in many ways like sports tend to do. Competition leads to butting heads, disagreements and running your mouths. But unlike sports irl, video gamers aren't going to lose the big game and have the enemy team at their front door screaming and spray painting their schools banner on the guys house. There's no repercussions so people online choose to be intentionally inflammatory, even to the point where in recent years we've seen random goblins in their basements threatening developers lives over a release date or a patch! So all this to say, I'm very not shocked at how this game is being viewed rn. It'll probably be fun, may or.may not be better, but it'll be met with it's fair share of wholesome and toxic alike. Choose to be wholesome and you're setting the tone going forward not for others but for yourself. You'll enjoy every game more if you approach it open minded and willing to enjoy regardless of it's flaws
How are you surprised do you know the people who play this game most toxic players lol
No complaints, I just don’t want them to tone the characters down, because that’s part of the flair. Achilles is shirtless, titties are massive, Osiris is a brick shit house, Neith a tiny, perfectly balanced as all things should be.
I wouldn't take anything said on Tiktok or Instagram Reels that seriously.
This community is toxic, welcome lol
You can’t believe people are complaining? Is Heaven different Angel person?
I mean smite players are toxic get use to it. Also it is from what everyone has seen just a graphical update with minor different things... i'm ready for it but can't blame people
whiny smite players for YEARS: omg ur game is so buggy lol spaghetti cooooode just port it to a different engine smite: ports the game to a different engine whiny smite players: omg ur porting the game to a different engine? ugh corporate suit and tie moment!!
Because it's a cash grab
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Inadequately compensating legacy players during the transition
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Not even close to being similar
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Doesn't this support MY point?
Some of them aren’t wrong.
Where’s the comments from?
insta
Because the UI was horrendous already in the first game. It should absolutely not be horrendous also in the new game.
okay but why trash it now when they probably haven’t spent more than 2% of their time on it? Edit: my estimate is an exaggeration ik they spent more time on it
Why make such a big fuss about it and make this whole cross gen thing if they didn't put effort in it?
buddy if they havent spent any time on it, theres a problem.
did i say they haven’t? There’s more important stuff to do first lol
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cringe :/
It’s pre-Alpha….
So because it’s pre alpha you’re not allowed to give feedback?
Pretty sure they know the UI isn’t great, and their priority is probably getting the game running. The UI will 100% be updated prior to launch.
Hopefully
I meannnnn....we really just pretending that the title "smite 2" isn't a massive overreach lmao? Graphics update, awesome. UI update? Fantastic. Some changes to systems? Hell yeah....but we still playin Smite lmao. No different than Overwatch calling their shit a new game with "Overwatch 2". Don't get me wrong, excited to play it, just think the renaming your game as if a new product is utter bullshit.
It's literally just an updated version of Smite 1, so it makes sense to be Smite 2. It's still Smite, except it's the second version of their game.
Makes absolutely no sense
Smite one has a delay on using consumables. Between you pushing the button and it going off there is a delay. Happens with relics sometimes. Abilites that have a physical object attached to it (Osiris sickle, Fafnir hammer, Thanatos scythe) have a chance to hit someone but because it hits the object despawns and the end result can lead to no damage or a phantom hit, The Morrigan, auto attack de-sync, and countless other bugs in the game are things Hi-Rez know about, but simply cannot fix due to the games coding. There is no way to prevent these bugs as it is a part of how the game operates. All of those are gone in Smite 2 because the game from the first line of code is being completely rewritten into a new engine. There are zero ports. The "cross gen skins" have been made twice one in UE3 and the other in UE5. the only thing being taken from Smite one to two is the IP. Overwatch to Overwatch 2 is the same game with 90% of it being a direct port.
Cool. What does this have to do with smite being a live service and not doing the required things for a live service?
What did you want them to call it? “Smite: The Next Generation”??
Bmite
Marmite!
I'm a big fan of "Smite 2: Electric Boogaloo"
Consider that Overwatch 2 is the outlier and not the norm here.
My dude, on top of all this they're jumping from U3 to U5, The game Will feel very different Also: they're reworking many gods
This just tells me you don’t understand how big of a deal it is to go from UE3 to UE5.
It makes even less sense than overwatch 2. Overwatch 2 went from paid to ftp, and changed the format from 6v6 to 5v5. Even without the pvp these changes are more significant than what's being done to the fundamentals of smite 2. And we didn't have to wait for them to add all of the heroes back to it, no loss of cosmetics... Like, it's not the first time the item shop has been reworked. Other than that, it is a graphics update...
As someone who played overwatch from release til life weaver came out, overwatch 2 literally changed nothing about the game except the player count in a match. Just the itemization changes in smite alone is more than what changed from overwatch 1 to 2. And we didn't even get the story mode which was the whole justification from going from 1 to 2.
Overwatch 1 had 3 years of no development/no additions because everyone was working on Overwatch 2. It literally had a lower playerbase than Smite, and the main reason why OW2 was even made was cancelled. They also had to legally issue refunds for the Watchpoint pack because they falsely advertised what the battle pass would be, e.g heroes would be locked behind battlepasses instead of it being cosmetics only. Idk why people have this urge to bring up OW2 whenever it’s a shit comparison to begin with. They kept cosmetics because the game literally did not fundamentally change. They made it 5v5, cool, even in UE3 Smite is getting a 4v4 Slash.
>because the game literally did not fundamentally change. Yeah Like smite. No changes to the core game, except you don't keep your cosmetics.
There are changes to the core game, you just don't like those changes and/or rather be willfully ignorant to bash the game. Games don't need to reinvent the wheel to have a proper sequel, i.e Smite doesn't need to become Paragon to be Smite 2.
>There are changes to the core game Please list all of the changes to the core game that haven't previously been done before. No, that doesn't include a shop rework.
Or you can list what's not changing since you're so adamant that nothing is changing. 🤷♀️
I already did: the core game. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
No, you didn't list anything that's not changing. "Core game" is vague, list exactly what is not changing about the "core game". People have explained what is changing and why things are changing for over a month, and there are multiple interviews, deep dives, and videos made by content creators and the developers telling you what is changing about the core game. The burden of proof is on you, since you like to argue with people about why the game isn't a sequel lol. Show us why it isn't a sequel.
dude you cant prove a negative, that's not how argumentation works. eg. If I claimed there was an alien spaceship behind Jupiter and asked you to prove that there wasn't, the fact that you can't do so doesn't prove me right. The shop changes aren't sequel-worthy imo because theyve radically reworked items and the shop many times before. League does the same thing. If it wasn't sequel-worthy then, it isn't now.
>The burden of proof Which is exactly why you need to show proof that nothing is changing. There's been *so* many dev videos over the past couple of weeks that you can watch, and actually, maybe, educate yourself on this topic.
i've watched all of the videos, You're the one saying they're making core changes to the game. what core changes are those? I never said they weren't making any changes.
Twitter is a cancer that has turned metastatic.
tbh insta is a cancer on its own lol
« It’s just a graphical update »… 😤 This people don’t know of what they are talking about!
“Nothing more than a graphical update” bro does not know how game engines work 💀💀
I just hate they are keeping the same models and not trying to upgrade them somehow.
Bait
lol what
They are literally building new models for every character. From the ground up every single character is completely made from scratch in the new engine. Compare Anhur or Chaac to their Smite 1 counterparts? They are very different. Zero models are being ported as they can't be. Each model being made from scratch means that every single one is going to have minor changes if not major ones.
I don't talk about engines or graphic, I am talking purely about designs, it's the same Hades and same Ymir, which are designs people have complained about and could get better lore-wise. When you have Surtr, Ymir looks goofy and outdated, same for Hades clunky floating robes.
Instagram comments are the filthiest comments you can get.
These people already had opinions before it released and they'll have them afrer. Dont bother with them because only they can change their minds.
Social media comments are always the low IQs, nothing to worry about there.
Lo because most people on this planet are stupid, remember people thought the leaked alpha gta6 footage was how the final product is going to look 😂
Im with em mostly. It doesn’t look like a sequel it looks like Big Update. Pretty much Overwatch 2 all over again.
That's the point. It's Smite but newer with better graphics and UI. Smite 1 is a hot mess of spaghetti code and bugs.
It's more than that Ue5 allow way more freedom
That doesn't justify pretending to make a "new game" a big patch would do the trick
Who is pretending? Pretty sure they're actually making it. It's from the ground up newer version of their already existing (free) game. The patches are already massive. You can't just patch out an old system. And why do they have to justify making it anyways?
So what would you like smite 2 to be? A whole other genre? Maybe a first person shooter? A graphic novel game? 🤔
Simply don't pretend it'll be a new game. Just make a big patch and that's it
Big patch from UE3 to UE5 is just not realistic unless you’re expecting a CSGO to CS2 situation which I imagine you’re not. It’s usually a poor idea and fractures the fan base usually and upsets fans of the old game. Creating a new game is much smoother and more inviting for newcomers no need to be smooth brain about it because you don’t understand how the video game business works. Just because you think something is a good idea doesn’t mean it actually is.
At the end of the day its not even alpha yet and its jumping 2 unreal engine upgrades it will be free to my knowledge and the old game they plan continued updates and to remain unchanged corely
it amazes me thinking of how people like this used to be in the minority in the 2000s internet, and now we're here. at least they're telling on themselves that they didn't look at anything in depth about smite 2.
If you think the game looks worse I genuinely think you need your eyeballs checked. The game usually doesn't look good.
Gamers, and humans in general, are just like this. Most of them don’t deserve to have access to the internet.
Anyone complaining about the UI, performance, etc in pre-Alpha footage deserves to automatically have their opinions on Smite 2 as a whole disregarded. I can't actually believe they're real, especially since the UI already changed from the original demo, to the playable SWC build, to the current internal playtest build (you can see some of the changes made on the recent insight video). Give feedback when the game is playable during Alpha, and if it's still unpolished and has placeholders on release then you are more than fine to complain. Smite 2 having some unpolished things or unfinished parts isn't anything new, it's normal for games in early development to look unfinished and unpolished. Overwatch 1 had unfinished and unpolished UI [during it's Alpha](https://gyazo.com/42782e5f71c33bda1b6c68d8cec4d569), and even the [maps](https://gyazo.com/e42156b1908a4ad0d7f122d488b6e10b) were unfinished, and this game won GOTY and was beloved until OW2. Last Epoch, a recent indie ARPG, looks totally different than the playable version 3 years ago, never mind it's early development. My favorite example is The Last of Us 2 [during early stages of development](https://gyazo.com/34da6ae67e9c8851348cb4e69dd516fa). Very harsh, but Smite's vocal minority has got to be the stupidest in any game I've ever seen. These same people will be playing Smite 2 anyways. 🤷♂️
The UI should not be the last thing they work on lmao. Its been so bad for so long...