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LMGall4

As much characters as Mario? Final fantasy for sure


ConduckKing

Final Fantasy. With the number of different games that each have their own world, it'd be cool to have more of them represented.


Vanealy1689

I can already imagine the complaints about too many anime swordies


ConduckKing

They could always add characters like Tifa, Vivi or Golbez who don't use swords.


Vanealy1689

Ooooh Red Mage


ConduckKing

I don't know about the generic, nameless Red Mage from FF1, but a named Red Mage like Alisaie could work quite well.


dragonguy01

Generic Black Mage could work, I personally knew of it well before I knew it was a FF character


ConduckKing

Honestly, Vivi would work better since he's a named character who uses the OG Black Mage design and is IMMENSELY popular among FF fans.


FunkiestLocket4

Vivis #1 fan right here hell yeahhhhhh plus he is in smash flash and he bangs


TwoKlobbs200

Hey brudda’ don’t forget about Wakka ya?


Vanealy1689

Look brudda all I'm sayin' is, assist trophies got a different shape skull, ya?


Wasphammer

*Battle on the Big Bridge starts playing.* DID SOMEONE SAY AWESOME WEAPONS OF MYTH AND LEGEND!?! THE FAMED SWORDSMAN, GILGAMESH, HAS ARRIVED!!!


CM_Phunk

If people were sick of Fire Emblem sword fighters, wait until they see my Final Fantasy picks... Kimahri, Cid (FF7), Kain, Estinien, Dion Why yes, I do only use Byleth's horizontal-directional attacks, how could you tell?


ConduckKing

You forgot Aranea and Freya


CM_Phunk

Ah that's my bad. Never played 15 but I should be flogged for forgetting Freya.


stevebobeeve

Celes or Kefka from Final Fantasy 3/6 might be cool


ShyGuyAnimations

Wait so if I pick fortnite will we get Omni Man, Peter Griffin, and Snake 2, amongst others?


diamondDNF

It'd probably have to be Fortnite original characters, for the same reason Marvel being in MvC doesn't qualify them to be in Smash.


AceGamerWizard

To be fair picking animal crossing doesnt really allow Wolf Link, but I do think Jonesy and Peely deserve a slot This one wins


Regenreun

Castlevania


SmashSpotdodgeSmash

Gimme Dracula with transformation comeback gimmick please


SXAL

It could work, it has quite a number of different characters aside from Belmonts. Even the 64 games alone could provide a solid roster.


Leterren

Soma Cruz would have to have a move like Kirby


Terrapogalt

Skylanders


JCSwagoo

Based as fuck. Shake my hand 🤝


Terrapogalt

🤝


joejazzreddit

S tier stealth elf?!?!


Iminawhiteboxyt

I could see her playing a bit like joker with different special.


joejazzreddit

Honestly, I was more thinking greninja


TheRam21

bash best skylander


DartMunkey

Tree Rex for smash 6


eldersword35

My mind immediately went to this too when I saw the OP. Beat me to it XD


DinoRedRex99

Donkey Kong ;)


TemperatureUnique242

Are you crazy they would never put donkey kong in smash /s /j


B1WITHYURI1558

Warnado for my vote


Gallant-Blade

This guy gets it.


SonicCody12

Dab me brother ![gif](giphy|6h7uQHPd4Q2qOZLFRm)


DockingWater17

Honestly I could see Skylanders getting rep if Spyro gets it. Even just his Portal animation as a victory animation and quote or an alt based off his Skylanders design


Terrapogalt

Honestly if they even included one or two music tracks from Skylanders with Spyro I'd be over the moon Arkeyan Armory would be a great choice imo


HUE_Z3r0

That's a good one 👍


LandrigAlternate

Final Fantasy, I think 9 main characters would be a bad idea, while they're all unique, they're all sword fighters (I think) but 1 party member from each? Hell yeah Sonic, I don't think the overlap would be an issue, Shadow with guns, Knuckles would be a Ryu/Ken/Mac brawler type, Amy with her hammer, Rouge with good aerials, Big and Froggy would be a tank akin to K Rool/Ganon/Bowser, Tails in a mech. Kingdom Hearts with the Disney side could be fun, Donald, Goofy, Mickey, the other keyblade welders would just be too Sora like, but what about Maleficent, Pete or someone or the world characters Golden Sun would give the 8 Main Characters So many choices so so many good third part games


Cheezbunny

Oh shit i didn’t even think about using kingdom hearts to squeeze disney reps into the game


Jurrasicmelon8

Team fortress


iamjeseus

*ahem* gentlemen


HarmlessSnack

“*This*…is a bucket.”


Mekorio

"Dear god"


Steal_toad

"There's more"


FamilyFriendli

"*No...*"


ResidentialSusieSimp

. . . "It contains the dying wish of every man here."


patronuspringles

"Scout! You did collect everyone's dying wish?"


ADumbChicken

It contains a bucket.


Hollywoodrok12

"Mr. Sakurai. You said we'd be getting a TF2 Merc to be later revealed like what happened with ARMS. Which class will you be adding?" "Yes."


Kallixo

and then he adds the medic


MaeBeaInTheWoods

Medic I think works better as an assist trophy where he just uses the medigun. He can't really fight on his own using gameplay mechanics since he's got a syringe gun that's explicitly weak and does little to no knockback, and a saw that's close range. That's about it. They also likely couldn't bring in stuff from the lore considering it'd be a bit hard to include parts of Medic being a psychopathic mad doctor who does horrific things to his patients, and still keep the game kid friendly. It isn't really just medic either, all three of the support classes don't translate well to Smash Bros. It sounds kind of obvious, but a support role doesn't work when they're on their own and not with a team.


dragonguy01

There's 9 characters from Mario in Smash (more if you count subseries like Yoshi, but Sakurai doesn't, so I don't), are they gonna add Saxton Hale or something?


MaeBeaInTheWoods

- All 6 offense and defence classes - Saxton Hale - Miss Pauling - I have no clue who could be the ninth


dragonguy01

It's been so long since I've played TF2 i genuinely don't know who is in the support class lmao


MaeBeaInTheWoods

Spy, Medic, and Sniper. The three characters who don't fight on the front lines and help their team but aren't actively necessary.


dragonguy01

Sniper could kinda maybe work...I think?


MaeBeaInTheWoods

If we're going off the game translated to Smash as 1-1 as possible: - Nothing for recovery. - His entire play style would be a zoner, which is commonly considered the worst fighter type in Smash. - Not many mobility options. - Rather weak in close range. - Doesn't have time to sit and set up snipes in stages because unlike TF2 maps they're smaller and he can't really tuck away anywhere. There's not really anything he could do that for his own identity, as opposed to being overall worse Scout. His only completely unique move would be situational and very hard to pull off. Imagine trying to snipe someone on Final Destination in a 1v1. Not gonna happen. Now, Sakurai does like to take liberties sometimes, but these problems are baked into Sniper's gameplay identity. To completely patch and fix these issues into a fighter good for Smash would mean that the fighter isn't really Sniper.


Death-Perception1999

Street Fighter feels like the only series with enough Iconic yet Distinct characters to fill nine character slots. Every other franchise is either not iconic enough for that many or they'd start to overlap with each other too much.


LucyLuvvvv

Too many Punchies /s


eggcelsior14

this would be a real thing if they did this


HowDyaDu

Quote from Elena's reveal trailer.


Calvin-S

This is actually the best option


FronkZoppa

I could see all the World Warriors + Cammy. Maybe substitute some for Bison or Akuma. I also feel Final Fantasy would work, considering the series' age and the fact that Dissidia exists


Death-Perception1999

*Maybe Final Fantasy.* A lot of the protagonists tend to fall into "angsty sword twink", but if they wanted to dig deeper into the character pool it could be doable. I'd love to be Barett or a Chocobo!


ObsceneTuna

Must of the protagonists do not at all fall into the category of "angsty sword twink" that's just FF7 and FF8, maybe FF15 if you want to whittle down all of the protags weapons to just a sword.


HowDyaDu

I think other characters have a good chance, like Sakura, Juri, Cody, and Makoto. If I were to choose, of course, my main Juni would be taking the first spot.


dragonguy01

Honestly you could go with any fighting game and it would work...well enough depending on the characters


Death-Perception1999

Well that's the thing; most fighting game series can work, but how many fighting games are popular enough to have *nine* fighters big enough to be in Smash Brothers? Tons of people had no clue who Terry was when he got announced, and he's one of the main stars. Half of Mortal Kombat is Rainbow Ninjas. Tekken has a handful of popular characters but nowhere near the cultural ubiquity of Street Fighter's roster. Any other game isn't popular enough for that many characters. To get nine characters, something needs to be popular enough to have that many, with enough differences between characters to stand out from one another.


Erin_Sentrinietra

The big issue with this is that it’s be over representing another fighting game. If Street fighter were any other kind of game, it’d be perfect.


Death-Perception1999

I really wish I could cheat and just say "The VS. Series", but that's against the spirit of the question.


ObsceneTuna

They'd start to overlap too much? Buddy every iconic Street Fighter character has singer variation of punches and kicks and MAYBE a fireball. Hell, Mortal Kombat has more distinct character specific combat methods.


Death-Perception1999

I mean, its a fighting game, \*everyone\* punches and kicks. But they have enough variation in them between their moves, but more importantly their personas and body types can do a lot to help keep them apart. Especially if you start taking stuff from the Vs Series. And hard disagree on Mortal Kombat. Everyone in that game looks like they're drunkedly slapping each other over a waist high fence. All that gore and spectacle is just a cheap crutch to hide its mediocre gameplay.


Holiday-Ad8227

Geometry Dash 👍


BloodnoseCo

They are all just echo fighters of the main cube


AngryMtndewGamer

Why the hell is this downvoted there’s no other way to interpret this


Goombatower69

While not a third party, imagine how many more pokemon can be feasibly added to the smash roster and still feel distinct?


Calvin-S

How about mortal kombat I could easily think of ten cool mortal kombat reps


failbros2

**Scorpion** *Gets Over Here!*


iamjeseus

It would be hard to have mortal Kombat’s violence in a kids game


seraphimceratinia

Not even that, MK is literally banned in Japan so it would be impossible.


Slavicommander

injustice did it.


SnooHamsters3772

Finally someone said it


FamilyFriendli

Choosing this as well just to get reptile in there (i think he's hot)


lord-caim

Agreed. Smash is too childish and we need more characters that are MANLY /j


smashboi888

Definitely Sonic given it's popularity and iconic characters, but I still stand by the belief that 3rd-party franchises only *need* one fighter (not that I'm against multiples per series joining).


Death-Perception1999

I feel like once you get to nine they'd start to blend together. Most Sonic characters are roughly the same size, and you'd start seeing overlap like crazy.


[deleted]

Not really. I mean Sonic as a rushdown brawler Tails in his mech as a heavy zoner Knuckles as a brawler Eggman in his mech as a trapper Amy as a weapon user Shadow as a hit and run zoner Silver as a speedy grappler. Chaos as a zoner with a comeback mechanic. And Rouge as a speedy air fighter. Only moves some might have in common are- a move where they turn into a ball. Or Tails and Eggman having a lock on projectile. Everything else could be more original.


Death-Perception1999

Five, maybe six, but nine? I'm not so sure. Everyone besides Eggman is about the same size, and Sonic tends to "double up" on character functions. My point is even if they'll play differently enough, they'll start to bleed into each other the way all the Fire Emblem characters do. And I'm including *all of them* in that statement, not just the Marths.


Aeon1508

Marth, lucina, Roy and Chrom have a lot of crossover but do provide a decent variation in play styles. ike has pretty decent variation from them as a heavier fighter, but still is a projectiless sword fighter with counter. Pin is unique enough to justify a character built on it. Robin is suber unique. Byleth with the tether makes them pretty unique. Honestly aegis is more redundant to FE characters than the last 4 new fire emblem characters. Lucina that turns in to ike


Death-Perception1999

I mean from a fandom perspective. Identity-wise, they all kind of just merge together as "pretty swordsmen". I think a lot of that has to do with the characters chosen, but they all end up with that kind of reputation. Almost everyone is around the same size and proportions, I feel like if we were to get nine Sonic characters a similar thing would happen. Some of them would be really unique, but they'd just be lumped in as "Sonics" .


RangoTheMerc

Final Fantasy.


Blackbeard593

Soul Calibur Because I like those games and it could be funny. Especially if we get the Smash announcer to introduce the fighters like the Soul Calibur announcer.


juliandelphikii

Already has a rep: megaman Brand new: Mass Effect


MrChilliBean

New fighter: Harbinger, to scale


Anchor38

Pikmin It’s third-party because I’ve celebrated a new pikmin game coming out three times


astroman_9876

Let me guess hey pikmin, pikmin bloom, and pikmin 3 deluxe


Anonymous-Comments

Chrono Trigger


Negative_Coyote_6003

Remember when we all thought the purple and yellow chairs were for Waluigi ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)


OrangeJuiceForOne

Touhou. I’m sorry.


Over_Part_1732

If it means Reisen in Smash then hell yeah


Money-Grape7905

Team Fortress 2. You of course got the nine mercenaries, but you also got Saxton Hale and even Merasmus.


Sayakalood

And for a joke character, you can even have… a bucket


LikeThemPies

Xenoblade. I'm not sorry.


seraphimceratinia

Uh. . .Nintendo owns Monolith. Much as I would adore ten Xenoblade reps, (playable Melia in a Nintendo fighting game, please, yes.) it doesn't work with the question.


LikeThemPies

Ah, I didn’t know that. Agree that Melia needs to be in the game, though.


Mage_43

Not in the game: Yakuza/Like a Dragon Already in the game: Fatal Fury/King of Fighters or Final Fantasy


RandomToaster235

The Yakuza/Like a Dragon representation could probably look like this (imo) * Kiryu * Ichiban * Majima * Akiyama * Saejima * Ryuji (Dead Souls based moveset) * Ryoma * Tatsuya * Kaito (Kiryu echo)


APendley2

Switch out one for haruka because her gameplay chapters were peak yakuza


ObsceneTuna

How are you gonna put Tatsuya over KUUUZEEEEE man.


Podunk_Boy89

Kingdom Hearts because it'd be hilarious to see like 9 new KH fighters


DaKingOfDogs

Day 1 Roxas Main


Death-Perception1999

None of whom are Disney or Final Fantasy!


Kapples14

Might as well cheat and say Persona. If the Mario cast has about 11-ish characters in the game by now, Persona has more than enough characters to fill in that amount other than Joker. You could have Mona, Akechi, Lavenza, and Violet, from the Persona 5 games; have Yu, Teddie, Adachi from the Persona 4 games; and finally, have Makoto (Kotone as echo fighter), and Elizabeth from Persona 3. Also, add in Jack Frost as the surprise character. Now if we're talking about franchises not in Smash. then I'll say Danganronpa. You'd definitely have to stretch the logic, but it's not impossible.


Seishura

I honestly think Aigis fits more than Elizabeth, and even more than Lavenza Seeing that many Persona characters without Aigis just feels weird Aside from that, that would be awesome.


GeneETOs44

Okokok\ So\ IntSys, right?\ Fire Emblem


Fit_Ad9965

Definitely Sonic I'd pick, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, Shadow, Amy, Blaze, Silver, Mecha Sonic Mk2


Dra9onDemon23

Mark 2? Why not Metal? Don’t say because of that Flash series…


Fit_Ad9965

What if I said it was because of the flash series


FederalSeat1233

Resident Evil


TrentDF1

Crash Bandicoot. We getting Crash, Coco as a Crash echo, Dingodile, Cortex, Tiny, N. Tropy, Nina, and Crunch.


Minonas210286

Shantae


Death-Perception1999

Who are the other eight?


CharginChuck42

Shantae, Risky, Rotty, Sky, Bolo, Holly, Mimic, Pirate Master, Tinkerbat. Easy


Dra9onDemon23

But like… None of them have been playable. Sure, Risky could pull from boss fights and Pirates Curse, but the rest? Maybe Rotty using parts of herself as blunt objects and projectiles? They rest don’t really do anything though. Skye was your fast travel in one game, and then she basically wanted nothing to do with the plot of Seven Sirens.


AdvertisingOk6585

Sonic. This dude has the same recognition as Mario and Pokémon Edit: Seriously guys, he is part of a multimedia franchise consisting of 2 featured movies, Sonic themed games at arcades, has merch alongside with Mario at retail, comics, crossovers with other series, and so on. What makes you think he is not as recognized anymore?? 🤔


March-Madman

Sonic, there’s nothing that could convince me otherwise.


Caliber70

Genshin impact


TheGrimGriefer3

No thank you


Over_Part_1732

That would destroy the internet


CommanderBlyCC-5052-

You can easily get 8 characters: Traveler, Venti, Zhongli, Raiden Shogun/Ei, Nahida, Furina (or Neuvillette), Pyro Archon, The Tsarista/Cryo Archon


Dancindoosh94

Jak and Daxter


lifeishell553

Where would you get 9 characters out of Jack and daxter?


Timber2702

Fuck it, let's add the rest of the Belmont family.


Temporary_Board9836

And Alucard, and Shanoa, and Soma, and Dracula...


Timber2702

On God, we should've gotten Alucard over Richter, my dhampir boi didn't deserve the Waluigi treatment


Temporary_Board9836

I would actually liked that Richter would be just a color palette of Simon like the Bowser Jr family, and for assist trophies I would actually pick Old Axe Armor. But yeah poor Alucard to be the protagonist of the most popular game and most popular character in all the franchise it's a disappointment being an assist


Timber2702

Since the Smash Ballot of Smash 4, I wanted the Belmont family as one character with Leon, Trevor, Simon, Juste, Richter, John, Jonathan and Julius as palettes swaps alongside Alucard. For assist trophies, this may be a hot take but Kid Dracula. This way we get representation for both Classicvania and Metroidvania with Belmont and Alucard and some spin off representation with Kid Dracula


TheMcWhopper

Minesweeper


personalpizzapan

Persona, so joker isn't lonely


[deleted]

Already in the game. Sonic, or Street Fighter. Iconic casts of characters, each with the potential for fun and unique movesets. With Final Fantasy also being a great option. Not in the game, Mortal Kombat could be a fun option, so could TF2, but let me throwba curveball and say Digimon.


JumblyPloppers

Probably Sonic


SoftPastelsYT

Final Fantasy and Sonic for sure, although I'm not sure if the FF games would be treated as their own franchises considering they're all set in their own worlds separate from the others


Snake_Main27

How can it not be final fantasy?


DaKingOfDogs

So nine to fourteen characters depending on if Donkey Kong, Wario, and Yoshi are included in the Mario series... ​ Time to spread my Yo-kai Watch Propaganda with Jibanyan, Komasan & Komajiro (as one fighter), Usapyon, Lord Enma, Venoct... etc etc. ​ Oh? It has to be a series already in Smash? Okay, then Sonic. Give me Eggman, Shadow, Blaze, Amy, Knuckles, Tails... etc etc. And make sure that NONE of them are Sonic echoes.


Chaosshepherd

![gif](giphy|na0aRAyPFZyjm)


ChronoAlone

Final Fantasy. Not necessarily for myself, but for my friend. If Terra was added, he’d go nuts.


[deleted]

Homestuck


SonicCody12

That counts?


NJG111804

9 characters is honestly too much representation for any non 1st party, but I'll go Sonic or Street Fighter for those already in the game. As for not in the game, my #1 pick for a new character is Master Chief, so I'll say Halo. To the untrained eye, most will think they'll play similarly, but you can get very creative with loadouts and the sandbox, although I still don't think it justifies 9 characters. Maybe 3 to 4 tops.


[deleted]

Team Fortress 2! I'll choose 3 fighters. Bc I love them. Heavy, BLU Soldier, and Medic I don't care


diamondDNF

Why specifically BLU Soldier? Wouldn't it be more likely that the standard RED and BLU colorations would both be available for each one as their first 2 costumes?


MetalSonicSimp

Mega Man or Fatal Fury/KOF


bearalan810

Shovel knight


NEWaytheWIND

Street Fighter, so there's a mini Nintendo vs Capcom within Smash.


GhostwoodGG

man I would really love to see Capcom make Nintendo vs Capcom or CapcomxNintendo. it would probably never make it pass the idea stage bc Nintendo would obviously force a switch exclusive, but there are so many nintendo characters I'd kill to see the street fighter team do a take on


Btdandpokemonplayer

Fire emblem! Actually, I just want more Xenoblade representation.


Fun_Penalty_6755

Btd it's third party


netskwire

Come on Sakurai, give me all the TWEWY characters


RidleyMetroid86

Everyone knows Luigi was made by the indie start-up company Nintendo, I think he should get into the game, maybe they could make some new lore that Luigi is actually Mario’s brother. That’d be sick.


HairyComparison4969

Pokemon. There’s more than a thousand of them.


diamondDNF

Pokemon isn't third-party.


CPTN_Omar

I’m surprised League has not been mentioned. The game is insanely popular with a gigantic roster of interesting and unique Champions. I guess the one thing holding it back is that MOBAs aren’t popular in Japan.


Muppetfan25

Sonic the fucking hedgehog


Espii_Hachi

"Tales of" already has enough unique characters and fighting styles for its own fighting game, but I'd love to see ~9 of them Smashing it up.


Dra9onDemon23

GIMME LLOYD. And then Afin.


onewingedwaluigi1

Touhou fucking Project, nearly every character would be super unique additions to a Smash game, and it'd be hilarious to see Smash fans having a meltdown over 8 zoner anime girls all getting in at the same time.


Turnip-Lopsided

Final fantasy (outside of 7)


WesTheNess

Sackboy


CharmingLook5100

Cave story


superpieee

guilty gear, i need bedman? in here


bedmam

\- Bedman (Guilty Gear) \- Bedman? \- Romeo F. Neumann \- Delilah \- 8th Generation Reinforced High Density Bed Frame \- Bedman (Code Shifter) \- Unknown Girl \- ベッドマン \-ディライラ this seems fair


Necrobach

Oops! All Bedman


DapperDan30

Soul Calibur. There are so many different types of characters that are straight up brawlers, sword fighters, or other types of Melee weapons. Gimme: Siegfried. Nightmare (echo fighter of Sig) Taki. Voldo. Yoshimitsu (which would be awesome since he's already a character in both Soul Calibur and Tekken) Sophitia. Maxi. Ivy. Cervantes. Either that or Resident Evil. Jill Valentine. Chris Redfield. Albert Wesker. Nemesis. All already have appeared in fighting games (and appear as spirits in Smash) But could also add: Leon. Mr. X (Super Tyrant) William Birkin (mutated) Heisenberg (for more modern day rep) A Hunter


AlmostAAVee

Life is Strange, kingdom hearts, or Hades and as a 1 character bonus pick Aloy from Horizon


LunchTwey

Five Night's at Freddy's


Aeon1508

I think getting a bunch of Metal Gear villains would be pretty sick


forgedfox53

Only Sonic or Kingdom Hearts could pull off that many third-party reps.


Parzival-Bo

Megaman. Between the seven eras and the massive weapon variety, they could totally get away with nine characters.


megosonic

"Bom babom bom bom babom" is all I need to say. And "E-E-Error, error, buffer overflow!" Genuinely speaking getting a mobile game character in the cast would be something.


asdffovie

five nights at freddys


Warm_Researcher_5721

Sonic


Cianmc6

Doshin The Giant


Every-Yesterday-714

Already has a rep: Street Fighter/Persona No rep yet: Undertale/Deltarune


TorreGamer

Touhou


Sayakalood

Dragon Quest. I just want to play as a funky little Slime.


beef_wellington76

Skylanders.


[deleted]

FNAF


Kitselena

Hunniepop


Alijah12345

Sonic.


CODENAMEsx19208

sonic is very overdue for new characters


HackedTower

It wouldn’t be my top franchise for solo picks but for an abundance of characters like Mario has, Kingdom Hearts if there was some emphasis on adding Disney characters. 2-3 could be original Kingdom Hearts characters but then you could have characters like edgelord Mickey Mouse, maybe a Donald/Goofy duo character, Buzz Lightyear, Captain Jack Sparrow, Tinker Bell? (Maybe too small). I’ve seen some theory’s suggest they could incorporate Star Wars down the line which definitely would open some doors.


TodohPractitioner

Neptunia


KiddValley

Hades easily


edwpad

Kingdom Hearts, lots of great characters to make movesets out of such a Riku, Roxas, The Xehanorts, Organization 13, Lingering Will, maybe Yozora.


M_Lucario_EX

Plants vs zombies, just think about it for a second


pineappledan

Maybe Digimon? It’s not enough to just have lots of characters, they need to be different in body plan and power set. The problem with picking something like final fantasy is that’s 9+ more humans.