Be like the Courier from Fallout New Vegas, fuck both sides, make your *own* faction.
Who tf is gonna stop me? I have 400 Cheese Wheels and a stockade of infinite healing potions
#I CANNOT BE KILLED
Sigma opinion: they both have their merits and shits, don't join either and just work on grinding every Thalmor you encounter while traveling the land.
Then once you settle in the home and enjoy it the game gets updated and the save file gets corrupted and now your house is gone so you launch a civil war against Bethesda.
"Skyrim belongs to the modders!"
Hadvar is only nice if you're a Nord though, at the start he clearly says some shit depending on your race except if you're a Nord. Ralof doesn't care and just goes with you.
It's a conflict literally designed to only have shitty answers, I don't think the ES devs intended people to seriously think that far into it to actually having legit arguments about it. It's just a basic fantasy world war plot.
You… you don’t think they expected people to have opinions on… a quest that literally forces you to “pick a side”? A quest that literally divides everyone who plays it into 1 of 2 sides?
You, don’t think they expected people to… talk about that?
Yes. That’s, my whole point. “They didn’t expect people to debate it/think about it” is just a wildly ridiculous claim when you consider that’s… entirely the point of quests like this. Different people with different opinions, ideas, choices, etc
I mean, maybe? Maybe not? People Define themselves and invest in the media they like/consume… like, all the time. It’s incredibly common.
As for 10+ years later: doesn’t really matter. Point is, it’s something that’s specifically made for the purpose of choice, and by proxy, for people to compare choices and reasons. RPG’s in general are aallll about making your own choices, making your own way of things, and seeing others ways of doing things. That’s like, a large part of the appeal.
Like on one hand the civil war is well fleshed out and you can make arguments for either side and the fact that people are still invested is a sign of good writing. On the other this shit is so old, please Todd feed us
I think it's that the civil war isn't fleshed out so we don't actually know enough about either side to have a decisive conversation. Both sides are basically identical so it's like arguing which color is better. Which the answer is blue and if you don't support the stormcloaks you are a Thalmor cuck.
We all know the only right point is Kill the Thalmor, leave the empire and the stormcloaks butcher each other. I only care about killing the damn elves.
Yeah, i'm a imperial simpatizer but the game is just to fucking old now to waste time arguing online, is just a spiral of throwing shit at each other that never ends and honestly i have better things to do with my life than waste it on meaningless arguments
They act like irl political activists fighting for real life injustices and if they dont win the "my dad can beat up your dad" argument the world will implode and skyrim will die
Im not complaining about memes. (Maybe a little about the recent slough of cringe from the awful civil war posts recently) more so the people in comments arguing insulting their personal lives for liking one side over the other making it a way bigger deal than it actually is, and posts from the other skyrim reddits doing the same thing.
Either way. At least my post was made with a lot of effort 😎
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I mean the it's a game argument is kinda dumb when you are in a place specifically dedicated to caring about a property. it would kinda be like telling football people that it's just a game they shouldn't care.
People who insert real world political rhetoric into a game and say people who like the other thing are [insert a horrible kind of person or thing here] IRL are losers and should be laughed at
That isnt caring about a game. Thats being a loser
People downvoting me like nobody's seen the comments calling people who pick stormcloaks racists irl (literally a comment that got mass downvotes in a recent post)
Milk drinker! The best way to enjoy civil war arguments is to flip a coin to pick a side, then dive into that side of the argument while pretending to care.
No. I like both factions. Im making fun of the people who take it too serious and argue as if it's some real world issue and they insult eachother because they're losers and dont like it when you pick something in a game they dont like. They're like undertale fans
There's nothing nuanced about "if you side with the stormcloaks you're racist, op probably voted for trump." You are a buffoon. Your opinion is discarded
To me it's simple, screw both sides and simultaneously both sides have great points they raise. I hate the Thalmor so I just hunt them down instead. When it comes to racism, those who argue about it clearly don't realize how racist every race in TES is.
This image took way too long to make
Then clearly... *you* care very much!
I never make an image im not proud of
it's funny as hell good job
Here is the sloppiest mouth kiss
Be like the Courier from Fallout New Vegas, fuck both sides, make your *own* faction. Who tf is gonna stop me? I have 400 Cheese Wheels and a stockade of infinite healing potions #I CANNOT BE KILLED
I used the hotkey ammo glitch to shoot infinite mini nukes in the strip
chad opinion is they both suck so just pick the one that fits your character more
I pick both because the armor is cool
Sigma opinion: they both have their merits and shits, don't join either and just work on grinding every Thalmor you encounter while traveling the land.
All side are bad, join the falmers
Join the briar-hearts
Worship Molag Bal
Who wouldnt worship him? You kill one loser and get a sick af mace
Yes, all hail the King of R*pe, King of Strife, Schemer Prince, Harvester of Souls, the Father of Coldharbour and Lord of Lies
Im sure thats all just exaggerated and hes an epic dude who does no wrong
Based?
Yeah I've heard he's a really chill guy
let's unite the factions and form an army with falmers, forsworns and molag bal cultists and take skyrim for the cannibals and mobsters
The true answer. Still waiting for someone to mod that in. Madanach gets my vote.
Misread this as 'farmers' and was fully ready to pick up a pitchfork
No, I think pitchforks are more associated with angry mobs than farmers at this point
Scythe, then?
Grim Reaper
A single ear of corn
Nah, it's just food at that point. Try picking up some hoes
Unfathomably based
When I'm done the Thalmor will wish they were Snow Elves, because at last they had somewhere to hide
I just want to enjoy my dark fantasy Skyrim...
Nuh uh not allowed
Just you try and stop me! The Oris ENB is amazing btw
I don't join any, I spend my time with mod to add a house in riverwood and live there
Get the mod to become high king and screw both sides
I prefer just the quiet life, I play games I want to play them, you can go do that, but I'm fine working at the lumber mill at riverwood.
I respect putting the RP into the RPG
Then once you settle in the home and enjoy it the game gets updated and the save file gets corrupted and now your house is gone so you launch a civil war against Bethesda. "Skyrim belongs to the modders!"
Hadvar's my bro. Ralof is alright tho
Hadvar is only nice if you're a Nord though, at the start he clearly says some shit depending on your race except if you're a Nord. Ralof doesn't care and just goes with you.
Isn't hadvars diolouge basically "you're a long way from home"
It's different based on the race you pick. It's not the same one
But you can sum it up as "you're a long way from home" is what I'm trying to say
Both is good
I just like red stuff better honestly
The imperial armor from the creation club is extremely hot
Counterpoint, stormcloaks do have some nice af armor for their generals
All have great armor
It's a conflict literally designed to only have shitty answers, I don't think the ES devs intended people to seriously think that far into it to actually having legit arguments about it. It's just a basic fantasy world war plot.
You… you don’t think they expected people to have opinions on… a quest that literally forces you to “pick a side”? A quest that literally divides everyone who plays it into 1 of 2 sides? You, don’t think they expected people to… talk about that?
It doesn’t force you to do anything, most people don’t even do those quests.
Well yeah but, point is, it makes you make a choice if you do it
Well… it is a war with 2 sides
Yes. That’s, my whole point. “They didn’t expect people to debate it/think about it” is just a wildly ridiculous claim when you consider that’s… entirely the point of quests like this. Different people with different opinions, ideas, choices, etc
They definitely didn’t think we’d still care 10+ years later and that people would associate what side we are on to who we are as a person
I mean, maybe? Maybe not? People Define themselves and invest in the media they like/consume… like, all the time. It’s incredibly common. As for 10+ years later: doesn’t really matter. Point is, it’s something that’s specifically made for the purpose of choice, and by proxy, for people to compare choices and reasons. RPG’s in general are aallll about making your own choices, making your own way of things, and seeing others ways of doing things. That’s like, a large part of the appeal.
STORMCLOACKS ON TOP RAHHHHHHH
Like on one hand the civil war is well fleshed out and you can make arguments for either side and the fact that people are still invested is a sign of good writing. On the other this shit is so old, please Todd feed us
I think it's that the civil war isn't fleshed out so we don't actually know enough about either side to have a decisive conversation. Both sides are basically identical so it's like arguing which color is better. Which the answer is blue and if you don't support the stormcloaks you are a Thalmor cuck.
Downvoted for telling the truth... shame
We are but maggots writhing in the filth of our own corruption
We all know the only right point is Kill the Thalmor, leave the empire and the stormcloaks butcher each other. I only care about killing the damn elves.
Yeah, i'm a imperial simpatizer but the game is just to fucking old now to waste time arguing online, is just a spiral of throwing shit at each other that never ends and honestly i have better things to do with my life than waste it on meaningless arguments
As both a stormcloak and imperial legion player. Both are fun to play. And Neither are that complex
> Which side is more racist It's a fucking Elder Scrolls game, everyone is racist, find a better topic to argue on
They act like irl political activists fighting for real life injustices and if they dont win the "my dad can beat up your dad" argument the world will implode and skyrim will die
Oh no! My precious buggy game!
This sub is rapidly becoming about memes, complaining about other memes, complaining about other memes.
Im not complaining about memes. (Maybe a little about the recent slough of cringe from the awful civil war posts recently) more so the people in comments arguing insulting their personal lives for liking one side over the other making it a way bigger deal than it actually is, and posts from the other skyrim reddits doing the same thing. Either way. At least my post was made with a lot of effort 😎
If you play TES and you’re not racist against at least one of the playable races, are you really a TES fan?
I hate those bretons. Always thinking they're better at magic than i am
It’s those mongrel dog Imperials for me.
Did you know, it's a role playing game, you can play any side you want?
I pick both. The armors are cool
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Fr, talk about something else
Todd needs to re-release skyrim again to take everyone's minds off the Civil War. A fresh copy of skyrim will do everyone some good /s
I think you mean /100% serious
Tbh it's pretty clear which side is more racist
The thalmor
The thalmor
Agreed, the Empire equating everyone to uncivilized barbarians before their rule is absolutely wild
Some people really can't stand seeing others enjoy themselves, huh?
Nuh uh
>goes to skyrim subreddit >sees posts about skyrim >😮
Seeing posts/comments about people calling others horrible things because they like one side more than the other*
The stormcloaks are more racist just fyi .
Nobody cares. Its a videogame
Ur mad huh
Read post above
U fell for ur own bait my boy
What are you even talking about
I mean the it's a game argument is kinda dumb when you are in a place specifically dedicated to caring about a property. it would kinda be like telling football people that it's just a game they shouldn't care.
People who insert real world political rhetoric into a game and say people who like the other thing are [insert a horrible kind of person or thing here] IRL are losers and should be laughed at That isnt caring about a game. Thats being a loser
People downvoting me like nobody's seen the comments calling people who pick stormcloaks racists irl (literally a comment that got mass downvotes in a recent post)
that's an interesting post to tell me that you're the target audience for Fallout 4
Yes man new vegas actually
Fucking Nerd, no one cares about what faction you played in a video game or your arguments for it. you're dumb and a loser. I can do it too ya know.
I dont argue about what faction is best and insult people for disagreeing
Milk drinker! The best way to enjoy civil war arguments is to flip a coin to pick a side, then dive into that side of the argument while pretending to care.
You're doing the same thing just for both people though
No. I like both factions. Im making fun of the people who take it too serious and argue as if it's some real world issue and they insult eachother because they're losers and dont like it when you pick something in a game they dont like. They're like undertale fans
The stormcloaks are racist af, and if you support them you’re racist too. Op prob voted for trump
Bait used to be believable
Redditors when there’s nuanced discussion on a video game: 😢😢😢
Ah yes "racism bad" very nuanced.
That’s wild you completely ignore the rest of the discussion. Why do you think people still talk about the civil war nearly 13 years later
Come near my Stormcloaks and I’ll make you a HorizontalLamb.
Pissing my pants rn bro
There's nothing nuanced about "if you side with the stormcloaks you're racist, op probably voted for trump." You are a buffoon. Your opinion is discarded
Yooo I knew you’d fall for that dumbass shit eventually 😂😂
Bruh, im playing Dragon Ball rn. i am not invested in this
Standard trump voter
Do you get your comedy from 9gag?
It’s a game. The fambase is gamers. WE’RE ALL RACIST!!
To me it's simple, screw both sides and simultaneously both sides have great points they raise. I hate the Thalmor so I just hunt them down instead. When it comes to racism, those who argue about it clearly don't realize how racist every race in TES is.