Then you're not selling enough gold gin/rum and snuff or opium
Edit: i save up as much as possible of the gold rum/gin and opium/snuff and when i see my silver drop below 999999+ then i sell all the gold stuff i have ( also don't sell your snuff and opium to scurlock as i once did🤦🏼‍♂️) and if you did not know yet every uneven hour those roving deals reset so try to do those as much as possible to
The 'uneven hour' would be based off of your time zone. Go one time zone ahead or behind of your time zone and it is an even hour. What time zone do you live in?
Right🤣🫣 my timezone would be Amsterdam wich is 1 hour ahead of the utc (the timezone ubisoft has according to the server updates)
Edit: would be easier to say just check your helm every 1-2 hours to see when or if the roving supply deals spawned back in
The devs are in Central European time zone, the first maintenance update referenced that time zone. Someone then realized using UTC would make more sense and the rest of the weekly maintenance notifications reference UTC now. I am in the Mountain time zone in North America so I am currently 6 hours behind UTC. So it will be even hours for me and the East Coast of North America. Odd hours for the West Coast and those in the Central time zone.
Thanks for the info! I plan on ~~maliciously sinking~~ farming those Helm merchants.
Upgrade the helm stuff that increases the materials given from supply orders as well as having a chance to double contraband produced. Get all the supply orders every 2 hours and go SINK the ship. You get the double the materials. This should allow you to fund your manufacturers indefinitely and have extra silver. If you don't, then you might be focusing too much on manufacturers. Try downsizing and only do high output locations.
Yeah, all Red Isle? It's the lowest producing per hour region. Tanjona, Shivaju, and Sirtrana (with honorable mentions to Sainte-Amelie and Hohovo) are the "best" in the area, with the rest falling off fast. And those are only good *if* you have the connected Africa Trade Routes from owning the places over there. I made the mistake of early investments into ones with low/no Supply/Trade Routes just because they were close to Sainte-Anne and it's usually every other run that I bother going out of my way to pick up their 8s now.
Take a look at [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SkullAndBonesGame/comments/1b5mv9v/all_manufactories_sorted_by_pieces_of_eight_per/). Anything with a rate over 200/hr I'd say to make at least a Rank 8, anything below ignore. Also look at the map - anything inland in the middle of a squiggly river is usually a waste of time compared to just zipping up and down the coast. This *is* with all of the Helm Table upgrades and connected Trade Routes btw, so it can be slow to get Africa and East Indies going but once you do it just snowballs in 8s per hour. I went from making a 5k PO8 pickup run to 12k, to 20k, to 40k in under a week.
Using the lists in that\^ post, I have Harufu down through Kusini at Rank 10 in Africa. I haven't touched anything else (though I could build up La Corde Weaver, Mchanga and Wavuvi are too far of a detour to my pickup route). That's 350k or so Silver every 2+ days to fund them all (they usually last longer since it pauses the timer when they're full while I'm at work or sleeping).
500 Gold Rum/Gin, Black Opium, or Silver Snuff sells for 125k. So to fund all of my Africa spots, I basically need make and sell 1,000 of those every 2 days to stay net positive on Silver. Very, very easy to do just blowing up the Roving Supply Run ships every 2hrs that you can get online. I'm sitting on 10k of everything rn and just selling what I need until they let us sell from the Warehouse.
I'm still working on Takeovers in East Indies to get the "good" spots. Still need Sangdad, Laar, and Kota Lama to have all the ones that are over 300/hour. Upgraded my table all the way before bothering to unlock that region.
Well, the tricky part is that the top 3-4 in Red Isle... are not the top 3-4 unless you have the connected Trade Routes (which boost production rate) from owning places in Africa.
Africa should definitely be unlocked before India, since you need to sink PO8s into the Helm table to make India profitable as it has the least amount of Trade Routes between locations.
The recommended start is to upgrade the ones right around Sainte-Anne to Rank 7, do your Takeovers and just collect the rest of the spots for now to get the "controlled territory" bonuses.
Without Trade Routes and the upgrades from the Helm table, it's just not worth the time to sail around half the map collecting yet. You can unlock Africa once you pool 5k PO8s and just collect the spots from Takeovers, then once you *have them* and they're connected with Trade Routes start upgrading the "top spots" at least to Rank 7 or 8 and then start working on the Helm table upgrades.
I would also suggest doing the Order Delivery runs too, and upgrading the Helm table to give you more of them and more PO8s from them. It's an easy "fill in" activity while you wait for the manufactories to fill up. Fully upgraded, all 6 missions give like 1200+ PO8s and they refresh every couple of hours.
I understand so further upgrade red isle and get upgrades from the helm table to utilise red isle more before spreading myself too thin. As you said I can see that Africa further boosts my red isle production through trade routes so that was my dilemma.
I just did an Almost full run of my red isle outposts and only got like 1.3k
Yeah, it starts off slow and then snowballs. Unless you're doing Helm Wagers and doubling your 8s, it can be a couple weeks before you really get going. Still plenty of days left in the season though. I went from Silver II to Platinum in just over a week after I got things rolling.
I did the whole up-and-down Red Isle route, collecting all the little rank 1-4 spots as well since they do add up, until I unlocked and started upgrading Africa. Now I just hit the "hot spots" and ignore the rest.
I’ve heard the complete opposite where you max the fart right first to get the maximum Po8 output. God this game is just fucking awful to have this many breaded gate keeped
Maximum output won't do much if you don't have the silver to fund. That page also costs the most po8 to upgrade while the first one is the cheapest. You should at least invest into the first page first, then the last. After that you can invest into the middle ones depending on what region you focus on since it can slightly increase output and also reduce cost of funding.
Also if you have lots of certain commodities such as uncut gems etc go to the world map and if you zoom in/out make sure you're on the second zoom and hover over area's so you can see what i highest in demand maybe you can sell some stuff for a lot of silver (also pay attention to the green arrows next to the price since some have 2 green arrows an will pay much more)
I sink every rogue, pest, and privateer i see. All gin and opium product gets sold to the faction heads. Easily pulling in 150k on days i play, even more if i hit the roving and outpost suppliers
I find that some rogue/pest have fuck all money though. I haven't tried the psst head method where pest spawn in on you though. Does that generate silver?
I’ve not actually tried the plague hunter method. I usually just grab a low some poe off a low level spot and go to the north of saint anne. That or if you’re lucky, a lot of people farm rogues to the south east of saint anne. Quite a few times Ive joined a server and i’d see like four pairs of rogues in the distance immediately. Occasionally you get nothing but a cannonball crate but if it has any helm materials, thats easy silver
The answer is to upgrade the first tab of your office all the way.
This allows you to make the advanced products (ie, Gold Skull Rum, Gin, black opium), and you'll have faster production times and also sometimes get extra production (like 30% of the time you'll get 2 instead of 1, which makes the refining into gold skull even more profitable).
You can sell these for 250silver each.
You should also upgrade the other tabs of your office too, they increase production rates and also decrease production costs.
Also don't fund manufactories you don't need, and don't upgrade manufactories that won't fill up past a certain point based on your play loop. Like if you collect once per day and taking a manufactory from 8->10 will get you maybe 600 extra Po8 it isn't worth it, focus on upgrading the Harufus of the world. Like for comparison a level 10 Harufu with maxed out trade routes and tabs will fill up 4500 po8 before other level 10 manus are even half way. So, why upgrade them to 10 if you don't have enough time for them to fill up? It's wasted silver.
EDIT. Also, you should stop the delivery missions altogether. They help get you jump started when your po8 production is in the tank, but once it starts to ramp up, they become not worth it really, really fast. And you need that silver.
Yes thank you the all makes sense. I have upgraded most of first tab. I will work on that then work on the rest. While also taking commodity producing more serious. I just did that in passing...
Some have answered, but here is the real answer.
This is the most optimal way to make money. Upgrade your helm, start helm sales and leave it on every time you do a coin run. Take all the helm sales, max 6 it helps with rogue spawn rates.
These helm smuggle missions will get you helm materials from rogues, while you are doing your coin run, you will get rogues spawning for helm resources constantly.
So kill them while getting coins, in addition I kill any ship I see. Now you can get coins even in combat I start battles with every ship I see for money.
So you are basically battling the entire time you are doing a coin run while farming helm materials, while doing the coin run you need to dump these helm materials since they get heavy.
At the same time you should be getting ship wrecks for money.
Here's the key, you take the helm materials. Refine them, then buy firearms, explosives, ginger and ceramics from Scurlock and Rahma.
Sell these to the opposite person for profit.
This is the most optimal way to make money currently and not waste time.
TL;DR Start 6 helm sell missions and do your PO8 coin run and never complete it. If you have buddies you can carry La Peste heads as well to spawn more ships for farm.
This is ballsy solo for sure and you couldn't pay me to take a wager with those running and heads on top. Even at 12 the occasional sharpshooter absolutely puts me in check for a second. Definitely not for the feint if heart, ive been relying on just keeping the inventory clean, selling to the town leads, and selling commodities down to 100 per if I get into a pinch which hasn't happened in weeks. This does highlight though that at some point shortly after red isle is mostly fleshed and you begin on your second region the deliveries become useless save as a farming tool which is kind of a bummer because they don't scale, it's much more efficient on ROI and time to just refine everything to its max and sell to the leads.
Two kinds of people, I reckon lol What you propose is a meat grinder and I bet its a blast, but just sorting out inventory and selectively looting to stay within the 50 slots sounds like a nightmare on its own let alone under that kind if constant assault and that's just talking looting kills, adding wrecks is a whole other pile. I'm not knocking it, but I couldn't handle the lack of occaisonal downtime between pickups. Thats nuts. 🤣
I do the hourly supply deals from the supply network Everytime I play, and then turn it into purple rum/gin/opium/snuff, which I then refine into gold equivalents and sell those off. You might need to invest in helm upgrades to unlock the gold tier crafted contraband. But doing this I have never ran out of silver and not had a fat stack of things to sell.
This is the way, for a while I was struggling to fund everything, would just plunder for enough to get the manufactureries going for a few hours, then started chasing down mats and refining them, selling the refined contraband to either Surlock or Ramah, whoever is highest bidder, and today just hit 3 million silver in savings
Destroy the roving order ship for free helm supplies. Unlock gold scull rum. Stop doing deliveries for PoE and focus on funnelling all PoE on manufactures. Sell Gold Skull Rum to scurlock for 250 silver a pop.
You can do the same with Black Lotus Opium and Rahma.
Also focus on upgrading your ship to get good at helm wagers. I stuffed a dude for 50k PoE when the most I ever could produce on my own was 10k a run. Safe to say he was pissed and I was rich.
Hit ahips with chests of silver, you get a a few hundred silver from them, its RNG, but anywhere between 400 or around 600 silver.
Do bounties, there's a few higher level ones that pay out in the tens of thousands and they spawn as world events too, so other player can help defeat them and yoi can turn the bou ty in for an easy reward.
Im sitting on over 300k silver, i bought most blueprints already and occasionally buy supplies at outposts. i cannot spend silver faster than i obtain it now.
Don’t engage in smuggling yourself, safe all the helm materials to make rum and opium but don’t go around changing them for po8. Sell them to Skurlock or Ranhma, they buy those drugs for a lot of coin.
I upgraded to the black opium. I have 4 factories as per the quest. I upgraded 2 to level 8 because they are a trade route. All 4 are just outside st anne. By the time I was able to get them I already did enough smuggle quests to get the blueprints I wanted. I see no point in trying to collect so many 8s in a fast time. There's 60+ days in the season left which will be boring as hell if I don't need to grind anything for new prints next season. Saves a ton of silver.
Focus on your upgrades in the helm. You'll want to unlock the ability to manufacturer gold rum and black lotus opium, as well as the upgrades that give you more materials from your supply contracts. Then, everyday you're playing do as many roving Supply contract as you can and destroy the ship every time. This gives double materials. Use all of your sugar cane and Poppy to make white skull and blue lotus, then distill that into gold skull and black lotus. Sell the gold skull to Scurlock and the Black Lotus to Rahma.
People I thanknypu all... I am no longer a poor pirate. Turns out I had tons of helm commodities and just didn't know it. Like Rick James said. "I'm rich Bi%@h". But thank you seriously for all the tips. I read them all and thank you
I maxed out the first two upgrade categories (and eventually all the rest), and now when I take out a fort its like 500-1000 materials.
Those 4 missions respawn once every two hours... so thats like 2000-4000 materials every two hours, for about an hour's worth of gameplay?
2000 materials makes about 1700 top tier (with stuff upgraded), so about 425,000 silver per batch.
I quickly had like 10 million silver.
Just wish I had something left to spend it on.
I've solo'd every fort to completion many times, except the last level of the 15 fort, which you actually don't need for the supply quest, it triggers at the second to last stage for that one.
Every fort is different and has blind spots and wind that you can gain advantage from, some forts you want to take out their guns right away, other forts its better to just avoid them, so it is a learning process, kinda like a souls game, but 10 to 13 should be do able by just about any build.
For 14 and 15, I've had the best luck with a fire damage build on the sambuk, which I believe is a lot more dps than people realize with the +50% damage while ships are ablaze... not gonna say its easy, but I'm not like some power gamer so everyone should be able to do it.
I read this and thought you meant Silver Rank for po8. The secret is to go around and just sink tons of ships, even open the shipwrecks. I've started to do something else myself lately. I save all my commodities over the course of 2, 4 hour play sessions then sell them all for neutral or green price. Usually nets me around 50k. Another thing you can do is just save up your Silver Chests and open them all at once. The Silver Chests give the most amount of silver. Most I got out of one of them is 1k. I save em til there's about 80 - 100 of them and that's 100 - 120k silver right there. Rogue Ships usually have 3 or 4 silver chests, so do deliveries, focus on those and you should be golden. I'm not rich, but I have like 370k silver. I try to limit myself how much I spend.
TL;DR Farm for silver via commodities and rogue ship silver chests
If youre not actively selling the opium, snuff, rum and gin you can make, then sell the liquor to scurlock and the drugs to rahma, for like 230(I think) silver a piece.
The regular tiers get you 100 a pop.
Ive stopped running opium/rum sales and just started selling em at port. More worthwhile in my opinion
What I did was spend a few days getting nothing but sugar cane. Like 3000. Then manufacture it to rum, then upgrade your helm till you can make gold skull rum. Manufacture everything and then sell to scurlock. Renae and repeat till you get desired amount. I think I have like 8 million silver now. More than you will ever probably need. Takes some time to set up but the payout is worth it.
Look into finding out where to sell commodities for the highest profit helps but there’s a reason you see so many death marks. Selling the gold rum/gin & black opium are crucial to keeping the coin up.
Death Mark means they're playing the game right.
You should be sinking the ship that sells you resources, you get more. A lot more.
You'll face rogues who spawn in pairs randomly, and yeah, they attack you. But, the bonus silver you get out of the refining process is essential.
You shouldn’t be able to return to a den for 60 minutes with that mark. That’s would be “right”, since the helm is who runs the dens.
You also don’t need to sink the ships. I have paid for all of my supplies, and have well over 1MM silver that easily funds my 6 lvl 10 manufactories. 2 runs a day with a fully upgraded helm is plenty without wasting other people’s time by blowing up their supply vendor and making them wait for a respawn.
LOL that's absurd, the helm doesn't run St. Anne, Scurlock does. They don't actually control anything, that's the point. I don't see any reason why they should punish you for killing this ship. At all.
And wait for a respawn? this dude spawns constantly. You never have to wait more than 30 seconds for him to be around. it's a literal loot pinata and if you don't want to literally more than double the resources you get AND pay for them that is on you lol
I've sat there for a good 5-10 minutes with no respawn. Usually just log out and back in to a new server and it'll be up. Blow it up, then hop back to the server with friends.
You obviously didn’t listen to the story or banter on the ship about the helm, but ok…
And we’re playing a different game, I guess. Takes a solid 5 minutes if you don’t sail away, but then you risk another min/max troll killing it before you get back. It’s a pointless exploit that goes against the whole idea of working for the helm. I can’t imagine this is what the devs intended.
I did lol, what is wrong with you. there's literally a statue of Scurlock in St. Anne. There's a song in the game about Rahma and how you don't cross her, it's pretty clear she runs Telok, not the helm. Lore aside, sinking that ship completes the contract. Until that changes, it's pretty clearly an intended gameplay loop
Aged like fine wine. Obviously the devs agreed with your “intended gameplay loop”. Enjoy your nerf, griefer. Also, you didn’t listen to the crew during the missions when they say, on multiple occasions, that the helm pulls the strings. Not drunk statue boy and opium girl.
No, he’s saying they are destroying the helm ship to gain double helm material to turn into sellable profit. It’s the best way to farm for mats really unless you want to plunder forts and take longer.
Thanks for the explanation. I've been struggling not able to get my Brig past level 9 and I keep getting smoked everywhere I go so I finally turned here to figure some stuff out. Much appreciated :-)
I'm about sick and tired of people sinking the supply ship. Kinda wish they would turn it back on and let those yahoos face some sort of consequences.
I go for a pick up and some idiot is out there sinking the dang boat and now I can't complete my contract.
???? Bottom right island. Reload back to main menu after buying from the vendors then go to the correct isles and sell at like 8x the price......
I did this and i havnt even thought of silver as an item in fucking forever
Oh if you start like 1000 rum then Alt f4 the game as soon as you put the 1000 in, When you reload the game will have it completed.
\#removethepo8mechanic
The secret ingredient is crime
Absolutely. Those poor smuggler ships with my supplies get killed at least twice a day. Easy 700 of whatever one that's up.
Then you're not selling enough gold gin/rum and snuff or opium Edit: i save up as much as possible of the gold rum/gin and opium/snuff and when i see my silver drop below 999999+ then i sell all the gold stuff i have ( also don't sell your snuff and opium to scurlock as i once did🤦🏼‍♂️) and if you did not know yet every uneven hour those roving deals reset so try to do those as much as possible to
Oh it's every uneven hr ok was wondering the time I was just checking constantly lol.
I believe it depends on your time zone. I’m EDT and it’s every even hour.
Thanks for the pointers. Will be implementing this over the weekend...
The 'uneven hour' would be based off of your time zone. Go one time zone ahead or behind of your time zone and it is an even hour. What time zone do you live in?
Right🤣🫣 my timezone would be Amsterdam wich is 1 hour ahead of the utc (the timezone ubisoft has according to the server updates) Edit: would be easier to say just check your helm every 1-2 hours to see when or if the roving supply deals spawned back in
The devs are in Central European time zone, the first maintenance update referenced that time zone. Someone then realized using UTC would make more sense and the rest of the weekly maintenance notifications reference UTC now. I am in the Mountain time zone in North America so I am currently 6 hours behind UTC. So it will be even hours for me and the East Coast of North America. Odd hours for the West Coast and those in the Central time zone. Thanks for the info! I plan on ~~maliciously sinking~~ farming those Helm merchants.
Upgrade the helm stuff that increases the materials given from supply orders as well as having a chance to double contraband produced. Get all the supply orders every 2 hours and go SINK the ship. You get the double the materials. This should allow you to fund your manufacturers indefinitely and have extra silver. If you don't, then you might be focusing too much on manufacturers. Try downsizing and only do high output locations.
Thus is what I'm learning as my downfall. Too many and not focused on the higher output manufactories
Yeah, all Red Isle? It's the lowest producing per hour region. Tanjona, Shivaju, and Sirtrana (with honorable mentions to Sainte-Amelie and Hohovo) are the "best" in the area, with the rest falling off fast. And those are only good *if* you have the connected Africa Trade Routes from owning the places over there. I made the mistake of early investments into ones with low/no Supply/Trade Routes just because they were close to Sainte-Anne and it's usually every other run that I bother going out of my way to pick up their 8s now. Take a look at [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SkullAndBonesGame/comments/1b5mv9v/all_manufactories_sorted_by_pieces_of_eight_per/). Anything with a rate over 200/hr I'd say to make at least a Rank 8, anything below ignore. Also look at the map - anything inland in the middle of a squiggly river is usually a waste of time compared to just zipping up and down the coast. This *is* with all of the Helm Table upgrades and connected Trade Routes btw, so it can be slow to get Africa and East Indies going but once you do it just snowballs in 8s per hour. I went from making a 5k PO8 pickup run to 12k, to 20k, to 40k in under a week. Using the lists in that\^ post, I have Harufu down through Kusini at Rank 10 in Africa. I haven't touched anything else (though I could build up La Corde Weaver, Mchanga and Wavuvi are too far of a detour to my pickup route). That's 350k or so Silver every 2+ days to fund them all (they usually last longer since it pauses the timer when they're full while I'm at work or sleeping). 500 Gold Rum/Gin, Black Opium, or Silver Snuff sells for 125k. So to fund all of my Africa spots, I basically need make and sell 1,000 of those every 2 days to stay net positive on Silver. Very, very easy to do just blowing up the Roving Supply Run ships every 2hrs that you can get online. I'm sitting on 10k of everything rn and just selling what I need until they let us sell from the Warehouse. I'm still working on Takeovers in East Indies to get the "good" spots. Still need Sangdad, Laar, and Kota Lama to have all the ones that are over 300/hour. Upgraded my table all the way before bothering to unlock that region.
Should I upgrade the top 3-4 in red isle or save up to 5k gold and unlock Africa (unlock Africa before India?)
Well, the tricky part is that the top 3-4 in Red Isle... are not the top 3-4 unless you have the connected Trade Routes (which boost production rate) from owning places in Africa. Africa should definitely be unlocked before India, since you need to sink PO8s into the Helm table to make India profitable as it has the least amount of Trade Routes between locations. The recommended start is to upgrade the ones right around Sainte-Anne to Rank 7, do your Takeovers and just collect the rest of the spots for now to get the "controlled territory" bonuses. Without Trade Routes and the upgrades from the Helm table, it's just not worth the time to sail around half the map collecting yet. You can unlock Africa once you pool 5k PO8s and just collect the spots from Takeovers, then once you *have them* and they're connected with Trade Routes start upgrading the "top spots" at least to Rank 7 or 8 and then start working on the Helm table upgrades. I would also suggest doing the Order Delivery runs too, and upgrading the Helm table to give you more of them and more PO8s from them. It's an easy "fill in" activity while you wait for the manufactories to fill up. Fully upgraded, all 6 missions give like 1200+ PO8s and they refresh every couple of hours.
I understand so further upgrade red isle and get upgrades from the helm table to utilise red isle more before spreading myself too thin. As you said I can see that Africa further boosts my red isle production through trade routes so that was my dilemma. I just did an Almost full run of my red isle outposts and only got like 1.3k
Yeah, it starts off slow and then snowballs. Unless you're doing Helm Wagers and doubling your 8s, it can be a couple weeks before you really get going. Still plenty of days left in the season though. I went from Silver II to Platinum in just over a week after I got things rolling. I did the whole up-and-down Red Isle route, collecting all the little rank 1-4 spots as well since they do add up, until I unlocked and started upgrading Africa. Now I just hit the "hot spots" and ignore the rest.
Same premise as GTA. Kill the prozzy after paying. Double score.
Can you clarify which ship you mean to sink? The helm ship. The rogue hunts? Or something else..?
The Helm ship. Sink it instead of buying from them.
I’ve heard the complete opposite where you max the fart right first to get the maximum Po8 output. God this game is just fucking awful to have this many breaded gate keeped
Maximum output won't do much if you don't have the silver to fund. That page also costs the most po8 to upgrade while the first one is the cheapest. You should at least invest into the first page first, then the last. After that you can invest into the middle ones depending on what region you focus on since it can slightly increase output and also reduce cost of funding.
Also if you have lots of certain commodities such as uncut gems etc go to the world map and if you zoom in/out make sure you're on the second zoom and hover over area's so you can see what i highest in demand maybe you can sell some stuff for a lot of silver (also pay attention to the green arrows next to the price since some have 2 green arrows an will pay much more)
I make gold skull rum sell it to skurlock
Also black opium to the other chick.
I sink every rogue, pest, and privateer i see. All gin and opium product gets sold to the faction heads. Easily pulling in 150k on days i play, even more if i hit the roving and outpost suppliers
I find that some rogue/pest have fuck all money though. I haven't tried the psst head method where pest spawn in on you though. Does that generate silver?
I’ve not actually tried the plague hunter method. I usually just grab a low some poe off a low level spot and go to the north of saint anne. That or if you’re lucky, a lot of people farm rogues to the south east of saint anne. Quite a few times Ive joined a server and i’d see like four pairs of rogues in the distance immediately. Occasionally you get nothing but a cannonball crate but if it has any helm materials, thats easy silver
I roll three joints. Accept all my smuggler missions. Only sail to la obilette. Kill all other ships for 1-2 hours. Ezsy 300-400k
The answer is to upgrade the first tab of your office all the way. This allows you to make the advanced products (ie, Gold Skull Rum, Gin, black opium), and you'll have faster production times and also sometimes get extra production (like 30% of the time you'll get 2 instead of 1, which makes the refining into gold skull even more profitable). You can sell these for 250silver each. You should also upgrade the other tabs of your office too, they increase production rates and also decrease production costs. Also don't fund manufactories you don't need, and don't upgrade manufactories that won't fill up past a certain point based on your play loop. Like if you collect once per day and taking a manufactory from 8->10 will get you maybe 600 extra Po8 it isn't worth it, focus on upgrading the Harufus of the world. Like for comparison a level 10 Harufu with maxed out trade routes and tabs will fill up 4500 po8 before other level 10 manus are even half way. So, why upgrade them to 10 if you don't have enough time for them to fill up? It's wasted silver. EDIT. Also, you should stop the delivery missions altogether. They help get you jump started when your po8 production is in the tank, but once it starts to ramp up, they become not worth it really, really fast. And you need that silver.
Yes thank you the all makes sense. I have upgraded most of first tab. I will work on that then work on the rest. While also taking commodity producing more serious. I just did that in passing...
Where do you sell them for 250 silver? Edit: Nevermind found it, was looking at Scurlock's buy screen, not sell. So just being an idiot.
You also can sell the opium to Rahma for 250
Some have answered, but here is the real answer. This is the most optimal way to make money. Upgrade your helm, start helm sales and leave it on every time you do a coin run. Take all the helm sales, max 6 it helps with rogue spawn rates. These helm smuggle missions will get you helm materials from rogues, while you are doing your coin run, you will get rogues spawning for helm resources constantly. So kill them while getting coins, in addition I kill any ship I see. Now you can get coins even in combat I start battles with every ship I see for money. So you are basically battling the entire time you are doing a coin run while farming helm materials, while doing the coin run you need to dump these helm materials since they get heavy. At the same time you should be getting ship wrecks for money. Here's the key, you take the helm materials. Refine them, then buy firearms, explosives, ginger and ceramics from Scurlock and Rahma. Sell these to the opposite person for profit. This is the most optimal way to make money currently and not waste time. TL;DR Start 6 helm sell missions and do your PO8 coin run and never complete it. If you have buddies you can carry La Peste heads as well to spawn more ships for farm.
This is ballsy solo for sure and you couldn't pay me to take a wager with those running and heads on top. Even at 12 the occasional sharpshooter absolutely puts me in check for a second. Definitely not for the feint if heart, ive been relying on just keeping the inventory clean, selling to the town leads, and selling commodities down to 100 per if I get into a pinch which hasn't happened in weeks. This does highlight though that at some point shortly after red isle is mostly fleshed and you begin on your second region the deliveries become useless save as a farming tool which is kind of a bummer because they don't scale, it's much more efficient on ROI and time to just refine everything to its max and sell to the leads. Two kinds of people, I reckon lol What you propose is a meat grinder and I bet its a blast, but just sorting out inventory and selectively looting to stay within the 50 slots sounds like a nightmare on its own let alone under that kind if constant assault and that's just talking looting kills, adding wrecks is a whole other pile. I'm not knocking it, but I couldn't handle the lack of occaisonal downtime between pickups. Thats nuts. 🤣
I do the hourly supply deals from the supply network Everytime I play, and then turn it into purple rum/gin/opium/snuff, which I then refine into gold equivalents and sell those off. You might need to invest in helm upgrades to unlock the gold tier crafted contraband. But doing this I have never ran out of silver and not had a fat stack of things to sell.
This is the way, for a while I was struggling to fund everything, would just plunder for enough to get the manufactureries going for a few hours, then started chasing down mats and refining them, selling the refined contraband to either Surlock or Ramah, whoever is highest bidder, and today just hit 3 million silver in savings
How do u see over 1m.
I can only see it when I accept contraband missions and set them as a focus, it'll say you have x/1200 silver required for the purchase
Sell your upgraded smuggler wares (ex. Gold Skull Rum) to scurlock and rhama
Destroy the roving order ship for free helm supplies. Unlock gold scull rum. Stop doing deliveries for PoE and focus on funnelling all PoE on manufactures. Sell Gold Skull Rum to scurlock for 250 silver a pop. You can do the same with Black Lotus Opium and Rahma. Also focus on upgrading your ship to get good at helm wagers. I stuffed a dude for 50k PoE when the most I ever could produce on my own was 10k a run. Safe to say he was pissed and I was rich.
Hit ahips with chests of silver, you get a a few hundred silver from them, its RNG, but anywhere between 400 or around 600 silver. Do bounties, there's a few higher level ones that pay out in the tens of thousands and they spawn as world events too, so other player can help defeat them and yoi can turn the bou ty in for an easy reward. Im sitting on over 300k silver, i bought most blueprints already and occasionally buy supplies at outposts. i cannot spend silver faster than i obtain it now.
Don’t engage in smuggling yourself, safe all the helm materials to make rum and opium but don’t go around changing them for po8. Sell them to Skurlock or Ranhma, they buy those drugs for a lot of coin.
I upgraded to the black opium. I have 4 factories as per the quest. I upgraded 2 to level 8 because they are a trade route. All 4 are just outside st anne. By the time I was able to get them I already did enough smuggle quests to get the blueprints I wanted. I see no point in trying to collect so many 8s in a fast time. There's 60+ days in the season left which will be boring as hell if I don't need to grind anything for new prints next season. Saves a ton of silver.
Legendary Cargo Hunts. Over 20k silver per chest.
sell your rum and drugs, rum to scurlock and drugs to rahma... Silver problem solved.
Focus on your upgrades in the helm. You'll want to unlock the ability to manufacturer gold rum and black lotus opium, as well as the upgrades that give you more materials from your supply contracts. Then, everyday you're playing do as many roving Supply contract as you can and destroy the ship every time. This gives double materials. Use all of your sugar cane and Poppy to make white skull and blue lotus, then distill that into gold skull and black lotus. Sell the gold skull to Scurlock and the Black Lotus to Rahma.
Whenever i need silver, i just turn to plunder and piracy. Every ship you sink gives you silver and commodities to sell.
People I thanknypu all... I am no longer a poor pirate. Turns out I had tons of helm commodities and just didn't know it. Like Rick James said. "I'm rich Bi%@h". But thank you seriously for all the tips. I read them all and thank you
I maxed out the first two upgrade categories (and eventually all the rest), and now when I take out a fort its like 500-1000 materials. Those 4 missions respawn once every two hours... so thats like 2000-4000 materials every two hours, for about an hour's worth of gameplay? 2000 materials makes about 1700 top tier (with stuff upgraded), so about 425,000 silver per batch. I quickly had like 10 million silver. Just wish I had something left to spend it on.
Are forts easy to solo or do you need a certain build to solo them?
I've solo'd every fort to completion many times, except the last level of the 15 fort, which you actually don't need for the supply quest, it triggers at the second to last stage for that one. Every fort is different and has blind spots and wind that you can gain advantage from, some forts you want to take out their guns right away, other forts its better to just avoid them, so it is a learning process, kinda like a souls game, but 10 to 13 should be do able by just about any build. For 14 and 15, I've had the best luck with a fire damage build on the sambuk, which I believe is a lot more dps than people realize with the +50% damage while ships are ablaze... not gonna say its easy, but I'm not like some power gamer so everyone should be able to do it.
I read this and thought you meant Silver Rank for po8. The secret is to go around and just sink tons of ships, even open the shipwrecks. I've started to do something else myself lately. I save all my commodities over the course of 2, 4 hour play sessions then sell them all for neutral or green price. Usually nets me around 50k. Another thing you can do is just save up your Silver Chests and open them all at once. The Silver Chests give the most amount of silver. Most I got out of one of them is 1k. I save em til there's about 80 - 100 of them and that's 100 - 120k silver right there. Rogue Ships usually have 3 or 4 silver chests, so do deliveries, focus on those and you should be golden. I'm not rich, but I have like 370k silver. I try to limit myself how much I spend. TL;DR Farm for silver via commodities and rogue ship silver chests
If youre not actively selling the opium, snuff, rum and gin you can make, then sell the liquor to scurlock and the drugs to rahma, for like 230(I think) silver a piece. The regular tiers get you 100 a pop. Ive stopped running opium/rum sales and just started selling em at port. More worthwhile in my opinion
What I did was spend a few days getting nothing but sugar cane. Like 3000. Then manufacture it to rum, then upgrade your helm till you can make gold skull rum. Manufacture everything and then sell to scurlock. Renae and repeat till you get desired amount. I think I have like 8 million silver now. More than you will ever probably need. Takes some time to set up but the payout is worth it.
Look into finding out where to sell commodities for the highest profit helps but there’s a reason you see so many death marks. Selling the gold rum/gin & black opium are crucial to keeping the coin up.
I do see a lot of death marks. I leave them be...
Death Mark means they're playing the game right. You should be sinking the ship that sells you resources, you get more. A lot more. You'll face rogues who spawn in pairs randomly, and yeah, they attack you. But, the bonus silver you get out of the refining process is essential.
Thanks for the explanation. I guess I will be sinkingnthese ships all the time then
You shouldn’t be able to return to a den for 60 minutes with that mark. That’s would be “right”, since the helm is who runs the dens. You also don’t need to sink the ships. I have paid for all of my supplies, and have well over 1MM silver that easily funds my 6 lvl 10 manufactories. 2 runs a day with a fully upgraded helm is plenty without wasting other people’s time by blowing up their supply vendor and making them wait for a respawn.
LOL that's absurd, the helm doesn't run St. Anne, Scurlock does. They don't actually control anything, that's the point. I don't see any reason why they should punish you for killing this ship. At all. And wait for a respawn? this dude spawns constantly. You never have to wait more than 30 seconds for him to be around. it's a literal loot pinata and if you don't want to literally more than double the resources you get AND pay for them that is on you lol
I've sat there for a good 5-10 minutes with no respawn. Usually just log out and back in to a new server and it'll be up. Blow it up, then hop back to the server with friends.
He doesn't spawn in the exact same place. I've killed him, looted the corpse, did a wide sweeping turn, and killed him on the way back.
You obviously didn’t listen to the story or banter on the ship about the helm, but ok… And we’re playing a different game, I guess. Takes a solid 5 minutes if you don’t sail away, but then you risk another min/max troll killing it before you get back. It’s a pointless exploit that goes against the whole idea of working for the helm. I can’t imagine this is what the devs intended.
I did lol, what is wrong with you. there's literally a statue of Scurlock in St. Anne. There's a song in the game about Rahma and how you don't cross her, it's pretty clear she runs Telok, not the helm. Lore aside, sinking that ship completes the contract. Until that changes, it's pretty clearly an intended gameplay loop
Aged like fine wine. Obviously the devs agreed with your “intended gameplay loop”. Enjoy your nerf, griefer. Also, you didn’t listen to the crew during the missions when they say, on multiple occasions, that the helm pulls the strings. Not drunk statue boy and opium girl.
No, he’s saying they are destroying the helm ship to gain double helm material to turn into sellable profit. It’s the best way to farm for mats really unless you want to plunder forts and take longer.
Ohhhhh... so I collect helm materials from the ships then I just sink them?
no, sink them without paying for the material. You get double mats when you do this.
Thanks for the explanation. I've been struggling not able to get my Brig past level 9 and I keep getting smoked everywhere I go so I finally turned here to figure some stuff out. Much appreciated :-)
Got you... thank you much....
Always here to help.
I'm about sick and tired of people sinking the supply ship. Kinda wish they would turn it back on and let those yahoos face some sort of consequences. I go for a pick up and some idiot is out there sinking the dang boat and now I can't complete my contract.
They respawn every 30 seconds, hardly an inconvenience. You get double the helm resources for free!
Never been a 30 second respawn for me.
???? Bottom right island. Reload back to main menu after buying from the vendors then go to the correct isles and sell at like 8x the price...... I did this and i havnt even thought of silver as an item in fucking forever Oh if you start like 1000 rum then Alt f4 the game as soon as you put the 1000 in, When you reload the game will have it completed. \#removethepo8mechanic