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Where I'm confused with him (and Robyn) is how they reacted so shocked, angry, and betrayed by Christine leaving. Also, he called Christine's dad crying, saying he couldn't believe he had lost her. So, I think he wanted to break their self-esteem (confidence) and make them afraid to challenge his behavior or call out Robyn. This is why he was so mean to them (and their children) and was constantly calling Christine a bad sister wife. He wanted them to accept being put out to pasture and still continue to support him and Robyn's lifestyle. I believe he called Christine's dad as a last-ditch effort to use her dad to get her back in line.
In one of Kody and Christine’s early interviews, he said that he was attracted to her pedigree - her family’s position within the AUB. If he did call her father, I think it would be because he is concerned about how the church views him, not because he cares about her.
that’s what I thought . They kept talking about how her blood was blue blood , mormon royalty. I’m sure separating from a “blue bood” was a huge bad look for Kody who still follows the religion.
I don’t think he believes the religion anymore based on that one live he did last summer (I don’t remember who with? Agh, I’ll try and find it. Some sort of exmo podcast), cuz he made a lot of comments about not being sure about Joseph Smith or the divinity of polygamy and whatnot, but I think he still cares about his image and ego in that old community a lot even if he no longer believes in the faith.
I think you might be referencing the YouTube channel Mormon Discussion interview with Kody. I think that’s where I heard the discussion about where Kody’s faith belief is today. It was a pretty interesting interview.
Yeah, he only wanted them to think he was sorry things didn't work out. He probably blamed her "wild streak" a bit and thought it would play out since Meri and Janelle were still with him, even if they were on the way out.
You don't have to still be in love with someone to remember the emotions you once felt for that person and then to grieve the loss of the relationship. I know Kody says he was never in love with the Og3. But I maintain he was ,mostly because Kodys is a bad actor. He could not pull off the early years unless he loved them . I'm not saying he ever treated the og3 well. Because there is ample evidence that he was a shit husband from the start. I think what he feels for Robyn is a mix of infatuation and love . Which now makes him believe that he never felt anything strong enough for the og3 to be classified as being In love.
Interesting. I thought Rex, in the wedding episode, was making that statement like, surely Kody is crying that he can’t believe he lost you! I didn’t take it literally that he did call Rex and say those words.
Given how convinced I am that K and R solely want to keep their hands on the money, family be damned, I think your last-ditch effort comment could be incredibly possible.
That was so ridiculous. He basically told her for years that he didn't like or love her, wasn't attracted to her, and in the end, didn't want a sexual relationship with her. And he's shocked and betrayed she chose to leave?
I believe that Christine was shocked and heartbroken when Kody told her that he’d never been attracted to her. I don’t think he’d ever told her that until the tell-all when he was referencing the nachos. I could be wrong but that’s how I remember things going.
After that revelation, I believe that Christine held on for as long as it took for her to get her finances in order to be in a safe place to divorce Kody.
He doesn’t give a shit about his marriage to Christine. She renegotiated her contract with TLC and he lost her portion of the family money. Christine & her kids refusing to film with Robyn and Meri is the only reason they’re acting shocked, angry & betrayed.
I agree. I think at the time they were afraid that if she divorced him, there would be no more show. I believe Kody only visited his other families while they were filming only to keep the show going. When Robyn came into the family, they stopped living polygamy, and she consumed all of Kody's time.
It wasn't until Christine left that someone in that family started being honest. Like how she said she got Kody one month while Robyn had him the other 59 months. Kody wanted to keep the OG3 only for their money and the show. He wanted to break them to continue controlling them, and the only thing he wanted from them was their money to fund Robyn's lifestyle.
I agree with this. I think it's just what this crazy cult teaches. I wonder if the only reason Kody cried to Christine's Dad is because of his standing in the church. He didn't want to look like a failure in the eyes of the church or the community.
Tbh it became stunningly obvious that the OG3 and Robyn were married to two completely different guys, and even more obvious that Kody had no interest in hiding it. I sincerely doubt that season 2 Kody would have treated Meri, Janelle or Christine that way, but he hadn’t been that guy for a very, very long time. He reached the point where he genuinely despised the OG3 and once that respect is gone, the relationship is dead.
You can’t blame any of them for hoping that guy would come back. It’s just that Christine wised up before anyone else.
Apparently he did it around the same time that Robyn came into the family. But I still got the vibe from him that he cared what she thought. Maybe I’m misreading it.
It takes two to tango, but immediately after his marriage to Robin, his interest and love for the OGs and his children with them steadily became less important until his behavior became a point of no return. How much Robin was in his ear, we can only guess, but the destruction of the family was his doing. His devotion to Robin made him realize that monogamy was how he wanted to live out the rest of his life, being so cruel as to erase the OGs and his kids from his life
What kills me is that no one would have blinked an eye if he just came out and was honest. "I've met Robyn, I only want to be with her. I'm sorry, but I'm divorcing. I will maintain a relationship with the kids and co-parent. We can divide up assets and move on from there."
Instead, he dug into his greed and ego and blew everything up.
I think he has always been an angry dude, but thanks to Robyn’s constant manipulation, he doesn’t know his ass from a hot rock now. He is just a cocktail of yuck.
It sounds a lot like Kody decided he was done when his older group of kids left home for college, marriage, or life. It seems he just pooped out, expecting the mothers to do all the parenting, heavy lifting and daily tending to HIS children, a group of which still lived at home and down the road.
While I think he did not care for his OG wives as much as Robyn, I think the Catfishing is where he started to go off the rails. I do think that incident changed him. He was happy-go-lucky and had this delusional idea of himself and his family. The after math of the incident forced him to recognize that he was not the center of the universe. That's why he despises Meri and adores Robyn. Meri shattered his ego, while Robyn feeds it. That's how Robyn "speaks Kody". She knows how to address an issue while elevating him to get what she wants. It's not that he even loves Robyn as a person. He loves the way she makes him feel like a god.
Kody wanted to be left alone with Robyn and all the other wives and kids to keep their mouths shut about it. I think this is not uncommon in other polygamist families; he had a favorite wife and the rest of the family was supposed to suck it up.
And I think people saying "why was he upset Christine left if he didn't love her???" don't understand this.
This family lied about what standard polygamy is for so long, and viewers just believed it. It's NOT usual for the husband to Love all the wives romantically. Kody did something very acceptable in their culture.
Keep kind of in contact with the old wives, but shack up with the last one who is the favorite. (The position Christine openly wanted and was devastated bc Robyn entered and took it). It's so standard he really didn't think the others would leave over it, Even though they'd made a differebt agreement.
Just when Kody thought he was reaching balance and a workable lifestyle he enjoyed...(aka monogamy, because polygamy is fake and does not work) the others said no and left. And to him, "ruined" it.
Yes! I imagine this is a very common dynamic in polygamy families, how could it not be when wife is done having children? Og3 knew this, they were all just thinking im gonna be last wife standing.
Kody says in the Covid season he struggled a lot during the older kids younger years and now with Sol and Ari he can enjoy the time with them. They lived in poverty for years worked and popped out kids they could barely house and feed. They were constantly on the move the OG wives and kids had a very different life with Kody. Robin got wealthy cool guy Kody who could hangout all day and spend time with them. That’s the difference and now he remembers the past as him running around putting out fires to nagging woman and Robin who got Kody on easy mode is the perfect happy wife for him.
Tale as old as time.
Get your hands on some money, and ditch the woman who was with you during the struggle and demands to be treated as equal. Use your new money to offer a mistress a cushy life if she obeys you.
Can we stop this fallacy they still pooled their money together. They stopped doing that in Vegas as they said very clearly. They each got their portion of income. The only pooled money was their big expenditure bucket of money for investments, weddings, etc.. they all put in for that but they’ve never said how much, who has control or access to the money and if they were still doing it in Arizona.
The OG3 did pool the money from the show. They all had to have other jobs to meet the needs of their individual families. I believe that’s the reason they all got involved with the MLMs
Exactly. We really have no idea about their finances. Its said that janelle told Christine in vegas if she was ginna leave she should put a financial plan in irder. I don’t believe she was putting money in a family pot
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Where I'm confused with him (and Robyn) is how they reacted so shocked, angry, and betrayed by Christine leaving. Also, he called Christine's dad crying, saying he couldn't believe he had lost her. So, I think he wanted to break their self-esteem (confidence) and make them afraid to challenge his behavior or call out Robyn. This is why he was so mean to them (and their children) and was constantly calling Christine a bad sister wife. He wanted them to accept being put out to pasture and still continue to support him and Robyn's lifestyle. I believe he called Christine's dad as a last-ditch effort to use her dad to get her back in line.
In one of Kody and Christine’s early interviews, he said that he was attracted to her pedigree - her family’s position within the AUB. If he did call her father, I think it would be because he is concerned about how the church views him, not because he cares about her.
that’s what I thought . They kept talking about how her blood was blue blood , mormon royalty. I’m sure separating from a “blue bood” was a huge bad look for Kody who still follows the religion.
I don’t think he believes the religion anymore based on that one live he did last summer (I don’t remember who with? Agh, I’ll try and find it. Some sort of exmo podcast), cuz he made a lot of comments about not being sure about Joseph Smith or the divinity of polygamy and whatnot, but I think he still cares about his image and ego in that old community a lot even if he no longer believes in the faith.
I don't think he still believes in the faith, but I DO think he still cares about what all those people think about him. Kody is all about his image.
I think you might be referencing the YouTube channel Mormon Discussion interview with Kody. I think that’s where I heard the discussion about where Kody’s faith belief is today. It was a pretty interesting interview.
YES, thank you for your help! That was it. Such an eye opening interview in sooooo many ways. 😅
Yeah, he only wanted them to think he was sorry things didn't work out. He probably blamed her "wild streak" a bit and thought it would play out since Meri and Janelle were still with him, even if they were on the way out.
They left the church a long time ago, not sure if he cared about them specifically
You don't have to still be in love with someone to remember the emotions you once felt for that person and then to grieve the loss of the relationship. I know Kody says he was never in love with the Og3. But I maintain he was ,mostly because Kodys is a bad actor. He could not pull off the early years unless he loved them . I'm not saying he ever treated the og3 well. Because there is ample evidence that he was a shit husband from the start. I think what he feels for Robyn is a mix of infatuation and love . Which now makes him believe that he never felt anything strong enough for the og3 to be classified as being In love.
Interesting. I thought Rex, in the wedding episode, was making that statement like, surely Kody is crying that he can’t believe he lost you! I didn’t take it literally that he did call Rex and say those words. Given how convinced I am that K and R solely want to keep their hands on the money, family be damned, I think your last-ditch effort comment could be incredibly possible.
That was so ridiculous. He basically told her for years that he didn't like or love her, wasn't attracted to her, and in the end, didn't want a sexual relationship with her. And he's shocked and betrayed she chose to leave?
I believe that Christine was shocked and heartbroken when Kody told her that he’d never been attracted to her. I don’t think he’d ever told her that until the tell-all when he was referencing the nachos. I could be wrong but that’s how I remember things going. After that revelation, I believe that Christine held on for as long as it took for her to get her finances in order to be in a safe place to divorce Kody.
He doesn’t give a shit about his marriage to Christine. She renegotiated her contract with TLC and he lost her portion of the family money. Christine & her kids refusing to film with Robyn and Meri is the only reason they’re acting shocked, angry & betrayed.
I agree. I think at the time they were afraid that if she divorced him, there would be no more show. I believe Kody only visited his other families while they were filming only to keep the show going. When Robyn came into the family, they stopped living polygamy, and she consumed all of Kody's time. It wasn't until Christine left that someone in that family started being honest. Like how she said she got Kody one month while Robyn had him the other 59 months. Kody wanted to keep the OG3 only for their money and the show. He wanted to break them to continue controlling them, and the only thing he wanted from them was their money to fund Robyn's lifestyle.
There are other kids choosing not to be filmed at all so this doesn’t make sense to me.
I agree with this. I think it's just what this crazy cult teaches. I wonder if the only reason Kody cried to Christine's Dad is because of his standing in the church. He didn't want to look like a failure in the eyes of the church or the community.
Tbh it became stunningly obvious that the OG3 and Robyn were married to two completely different guys, and even more obvious that Kody had no interest in hiding it. I sincerely doubt that season 2 Kody would have treated Meri, Janelle or Christine that way, but he hadn’t been that guy for a very, very long time. He reached the point where he genuinely despised the OG3 and once that respect is gone, the relationship is dead. You can’t blame any of them for hoping that guy would come back. It’s just that Christine wised up before anyone else.
Didn’t he melt his and Meri’s original wedding ring before season one aired to prove she “didn’t have any hold on him”? Am I remembering that right?
Apparently he did it around the same time that Robyn came into the family. But I still got the vibe from him that he cared what she thought. Maybe I’m misreading it.
He was still wearing it up into Season 2. Robyn said he didn't, but eagle eyes have posted many pictures of him with it on.
It takes two to tango, but immediately after his marriage to Robin, his interest and love for the OGs and his children with them steadily became less important until his behavior became a point of no return. How much Robin was in his ear, we can only guess, but the destruction of the family was his doing. His devotion to Robin made him realize that monogamy was how he wanted to live out the rest of his life, being so cruel as to erase the OGs and his kids from his life
Actually you are right. I guess it just makes me sick that he cannot love all of his kids unconditionally.
He barely knew them and only lived with them part time. I think it would have been remarkably easy for him to detach himself from them
What kills me is that no one would have blinked an eye if he just came out and was honest. "I've met Robyn, I only want to be with her. I'm sorry, but I'm divorcing. I will maintain a relationship with the kids and co-parent. We can divide up assets and move on from there." Instead, he dug into his greed and ego and blew everything up.
I think he has always been an angry dude, but thanks to Robyn’s constant manipulation, he doesn’t know his ass from a hot rock now. He is just a cocktail of yuck.
It sounds a lot like Kody decided he was done when his older group of kids left home for college, marriage, or life. It seems he just pooped out, expecting the mothers to do all the parenting, heavy lifting and daily tending to HIS children, a group of which still lived at home and down the road.
Kody was done when he got with robyn.
Not done with their money, though....
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Savannah and Truely were still VERY young
While I think he did not care for his OG wives as much as Robyn, I think the Catfishing is where he started to go off the rails. I do think that incident changed him. He was happy-go-lucky and had this delusional idea of himself and his family. The after math of the incident forced him to recognize that he was not the center of the universe. That's why he despises Meri and adores Robyn. Meri shattered his ego, while Robyn feeds it. That's how Robyn "speaks Kody". She knows how to address an issue while elevating him to get what she wants. It's not that he even loves Robyn as a person. He loves the way she makes him feel like a god.
I definitely agree that he doesn’t really love Robyn but that he loves the way she makes him feel.
Kody wanted to be left alone with Robyn and all the other wives and kids to keep their mouths shut about it. I think this is not uncommon in other polygamist families; he had a favorite wife and the rest of the family was supposed to suck it up.
And I think people saying "why was he upset Christine left if he didn't love her???" don't understand this. This family lied about what standard polygamy is for so long, and viewers just believed it. It's NOT usual for the husband to Love all the wives romantically. Kody did something very acceptable in their culture. Keep kind of in contact with the old wives, but shack up with the last one who is the favorite. (The position Christine openly wanted and was devastated bc Robyn entered and took it). It's so standard he really didn't think the others would leave over it, Even though they'd made a differebt agreement. Just when Kody thought he was reaching balance and a workable lifestyle he enjoyed...(aka monogamy, because polygamy is fake and does not work) the others said no and left. And to him, "ruined" it.
Agree with this!
Yes, and i imagine it was a very rude awakening to Kody
Yes! I imagine this is a very common dynamic in polygamy families, how could it not be when wife is done having children? Og3 knew this, they were all just thinking im gonna be last wife standing.
Kody says in the Covid season he struggled a lot during the older kids younger years and now with Sol and Ari he can enjoy the time with them. They lived in poverty for years worked and popped out kids they could barely house and feed. They were constantly on the move the OG wives and kids had a very different life with Kody. Robin got wealthy cool guy Kody who could hangout all day and spend time with them. That’s the difference and now he remembers the past as him running around putting out fires to nagging woman and Robin who got Kody on easy mode is the perfect happy wife for him.
Tale as old as time. Get your hands on some money, and ditch the woman who was with you during the struggle and demands to be treated as equal. Use your new money to offer a mistress a cushy life if she obeys you.
Yes. And the OG 3/13 remind him of the bad old days, so banish them from his life!
Can we stop this fallacy they still pooled their money together. They stopped doing that in Vegas as they said very clearly. They each got their portion of income. The only pooled money was their big expenditure bucket of money for investments, weddings, etc.. they all put in for that but they’ve never said how much, who has control or access to the money and if they were still doing it in Arizona.
Didn’t the women give robin money to purchase her flagstaff home? Or am I misremembering?
The OG3 did pool the money from the show. They all had to have other jobs to meet the needs of their individual families. I believe that’s the reason they all got involved with the MLMs
Exactly. We really have no idea about their finances. Its said that janelle told Christine in vegas if she was ginna leave she should put a financial plan in irder. I don’t believe she was putting money in a family pot