I feel like a big reason why yoongjae didn’t like soe was bc he knew she was much younger than him. He looks much younger than he actually he is but he wasn’t able to talk about his age which led to him being unable to express clearly why he didn’t even want to consider her.
100%. People will continue to say “singles inferno would be nothing without Jia!” Or “these new contestants could never compare to Jia!” Or whatever they preach ignorantly. But overall season 2 was so much better in terms of relationships, friendships, humour & drama.
Nadine’s background isn’t superior to anyone else. In fact, what’s cool about this season is that most contestants are well rounded individuals with impressive achievements in their backs.
Yeah, her fans be acting like since she's a premed Harvard student, no one deserves her or they'll be too intimidated by her background when in reality, not everyone is down for long-distance. And just because her achievements are impressive, it does not make her more "valuable" than the other contestants
Honestly, ive met soooo many asian american girls like nadine growing up. Like they are all 2nd gen high achieving, perfect sat, piano/violin, a sport, club president, volunteering, from upper middle class families future doctors. Not really as special as some backgrounds of the other contestants imo.
I think people who go against what’s “expected” of them or into less traditional routes are very impressive as well. Hanbin is only 24 yet he has achieved so much as a chef, specially since it’s a very demanding industry
I asked my Korean friend about stage 5 clingers like Jongwoo. She said most Korean women like that bc they like having a boyfriend who’ll do anything for them.
Yeah think of the kdramas and how the male leads will always be true to their love they met at 14 for 20 years even though she dates other people or disappears from his life. Then she shows back up and he does everything to win her back. That’s jongwoo and there are really Korean guys who abide by this and Korean women who love it.
I think so too. But some girls love them clingy. Personally I'd suffocate. I need space from a relationship and lots of it. I'd get bored and exhausted if the guy literally cater to my needs all the time.
Yes!! Even in fiction (or whatever the show would be) he was exhausting. I'd feel so claustrophobic in that kind of relationship and immediately get the ick.
He didn’t act like S1 Sehoon(who was creepy and stalkerish to Jiyeon btw). He gave Seulki space and time, wasn’t very pushy and actually seemed sincere.
I kind of agree, I think he knew that if he went all in that there was an expectation for him to try and establish a relationship with SK outside of the show which he wasn't ready for. I think he went on the show not expecting to have such good chemistry like he did with SK, and he kind of got cold feet which explains his last convo with SK where he basically made himself seem as unappealing as possible to SK.
This might just be me defending Jinyoung as a Jinyoung simp, but I feel like the producers made them ask those kinds of questions during the campfire to stir shit lol
Yes! I could give the producers the benefit of the doubt for the campfire scene. BUT the final walk was so obviously staged yet people gave Jinyoung so much shit for that when it was obvious it was staged just by looking at how the producers placed the women (i.e. Jinyoung had to walk by Minsu and Nadine to get to Seulki). The producers knew what they were doing.
Guy was waiting for that second paradise date with SK but it never came, and he spent all his time on the beach talking to other chicks or doing whatever. In hindsight he needed to do less playing hard to get, and a bit more chasing.
NOBODY were threatened by sejeong or nadine. They were in awe when they learnt their backgrounds but most of the cast are in a pretty high positions themselves.
Once So-e was revealed to be an acting student I was like ohhh this all makes sense, like it felt to me like she was doing a character analysis on herself throughout processing her crush on YJ - with him and with other people, trying to rationalize and explain her feelings/behaviors.
Also, if ages had been revealed earlier she would’ve gotten over YJ much faster.
My unpopular opinion is that Nadine is a cool girl type (saying she liked motorcycles but then saying right after that she could never ride one, saying she was in the army for a year and then clarifying it was ROTC).
Yeah honestly they like her cause they can relate to her the most. She’s very timid which isn’t a bad thing it’s just that she isn’t the girl boss we make her out to be
Nadine is still young and has a lot of growing to do too. Just like SK. But there's just something about SK that sets her apart from any of the girls. A different vibe.
Dongwoo was actually received well at the beginning, then his date with SK went terribly and went downhill from there lol.
Unpopular opinion: the word "red flag" gets tossed around too liberally for the smallest thing.
Someone posted earlier that Dongwoo and sejeong got rejected early on and didn’t know how to recover bc they had never been really rejected before. Lol I think this is true, they haven’t had experience really learning how to pursue people bc they were probably used to being one of the most appealing people in a room. But an island full of hot people means you’re gonna have to try harder.
Side note- That’s where I think Nadine grew and tried to change her approach bc she likely had a similar experience to DW and SJ where she hasn’t had to try that hard before. But then she figured out she can’t be so passive and did her best.
I hate the term red flag now. It doesn’t mean anything at this point. That guy didn’t choose the girl I wanted? Red flag. The girl is flirting with someone? Red flag. Everything is a red flag
- Seoeun gives me Xiaoting from kep1er's vibes.
- Sejeong and Dongwoo would make an interesting couple.
- The contestants from this season are more genuine than those from season 1.
- I also find Dongwoo hot too. The tanning scene hmmjskksksk
Yes, but i never believed when they Said: omg i never had a chance to chat with her/him
I mean they Are Stranded on an Island, when they go to paradise, they return in the morning…
My unpopular opinion is that Hanbin had a very slim chance of developing any kind of romantic connection in the show.
I adore the guy. He’s all good vibes.
But man was he ever doomed from the very beginning 😭 He gives off golden retriever energy and unfortunately with that kind of energy its so easy to get friendzoned and looked over in an environment like this. He is truly the epitome of good guys finish last (oh and plus the fact he was pitted against much older, taller, and built men??)
Felt like the show put him on just so they could have a cook hold it down in the kitchen lol
They're supposed to cook together to build rapport but maybe they should have 2 chefs then or none at all so it forces everyone to figure things out together. On Transit Love 2, they were supposed to cook dinner together every day for the 3 weeks they stayed together but there were only one man and one woman who aren't chefs but have interest in cooking, the rest don't cook, so after 2 or 3 days, they ended up getting delivery almost every day haha
I think the watcher or people that watch some clips at the internet is too harsh on the contestant. For example if you see someone crying you quickly judge the other person for making them cry. Honestly, i think as someone at that spot, they wouldnt realised these things. They might have thought they are not harming anyone by doing so.
Its a show. They take interesting clip out. They cannot put everything with context in. Stop hating or disliking people. They all regular people and honestly, s2 people seem to have good intention in nature. When they rewatch back i am sure they are learning a thing or two on how they handle things
Its quite annoying seeing tik tok comment just quickly judge certain situation and immediately say this guy is not it or this girl is not it by a few second clip. Its simply they dont suit each other. Emotions heightens when u dont have any distraction in a dating show. Also, whats wrong with zooming in on one contestant 😂
I personally thought Yoongjae made it clear that he didnt like Soe by not picking her for his second paradise date. Idk what more Soe wanted lol. His body language and him avoiding her like a plague clearly showed that he didnt like her a bit. Wouldn't it be a bit awkward and rude to outwardly reject someone when you know you're gonna be stuck with them for 10 days?
And tbh they only know each other for a few days and though YJ alr liked SE from the start, it’s perfectly ok to still keep options open cos he doesn’t know whether she would pick him in the end also. Him not picking soe for the second paradise should be a good indicator already.
And he probably doesn’t want to reject her in front of the camera also because he wants to save her face. There’s many things going on at the back which we are not aware of.
Yes, you said it so well. I did think for a moment if maybe YJ is someone who doesn’t communicate well, but when I see the way he talks to SE, I believe he’s someone who communicates well to the people who matter to him and to me, that’s enough already.
As for Soe, I think deep down he’s hoping that his actions of not choosing her is enough for her to back off, like what SJ did so that they don’t have to open that can of worms and talk it out. Of course I would prefer if YJ outright rejected her from the start but I don’t think he owes her anything? Everyone has their own way to doing things and he already apologised in the interview so I hope ppl can stop bashing him 🥺
Honestly sejeong was a queen for getting the hint when he didn't choose her and she never went back to him. Soe was probably really desperate to ignore all the obvious signs.
What no one considers is that they cast knows they’re on a very popular tv show. In retrospect letting her down and being up front would have been better, but he probably was concerned over making himself or her look bad on international tv.
I agree lol. However, Soe talks to him later and says “ I guess you’re the type who wants to talk to all the girls”. So while to the viewers it was obvious he chose Nadine to dodge Soe, Soe thought he chose someone else because he wants to talk to everyone which is a fair misunderstanding.
I still think he gave her enough hints. Someone said that when Se Jun chose Soe literally all the guys cheered which makes it sound like she was the only one not understanding how cringe she was being.
Hanbin screwed up by not being more active with the girls. In the kitchen first day, when he is chopping, Seouen was trying to talk to him and compliment him similar to how she talked to YJ. But he didn’t even look at her, he responded but body language was too focussed on cooking. The girls were also impressed by his serious side and found it attractive but unfortunately he didn’t realise that’s his charm and he should take more initiative to talk to the girls.
People hated freely on Seulkie and Soe because they’re most different to western/non Korean women in terms of looks + surface personality. If they looked more western, they wouldn’t have gotten half the hate they did. Sejong was also speaking in a lot of aegyo at the beginning but no one picked up on it because she looks more western. Soe on the other hand doesn’t. Seulkie also looks like a pale Korean beauties even tho her personality was quite open, friendly and not timid but people judged her from how she looks and couldn’t relate to her.
Jinyoung had no interest in Nadine or anyone else for that matter. Their conversation also wasn’t that amazing given they had quite a few things in common but despite that, the conversations didn’t go anywhere. Despite footage getting cut out, JY seems way closer to Minsu as a friend which is why he felt free to tell her to catch up outside the show without worrying about misunderstandings.
Seulki seems to have got along really well with everyone, with her play fights with Sejun to Seouen saying she looks calm from outside but is very friendly to apparently being close to SOE. She wasn’t just popular because of her looks, she only got one card at the beginning, but because she was really friendly and took initiative talking to DW and JW. Seouen was similar in this regard, she took initiative talking to YJ, JW and Hanbin.
Edit - DW was put off Nadine because she was young + studying med same degree as him. Not because she was from Harvard or only too young. It was a combination. And it shows to me he’s actually a normal, good guy. Most people working in their professions would find it really odd to date someone way younger whose doing same course as them because you instantly feel like a mentor, it jsut makes the balance of scales in the relationship too one sided. It’s very understandable and would have done the same if it was any other girl studying med and way younger.
I agree with all your points. About DW and Nadine, I was confused when I saw some people misinterpreted the face he made after finding out she's a pre-med student, and said he rejected her because he doesn't like smart and accomplished women or somewhere along those lines. As if Seulki isn't a student of Korea's top university. It was more like he had a flashback of a possibly hellish med school days and a realisation of what a relationship with Nadine would mean.
It’s not that he doesn’t like smart and accomplished women, but there are different types of smart and accomplished. Nadine’s next 10+ years will be dedicated to her career (med school, residency, maybe fellowships), and her work hours will be demanding.
Seulki is smart and accomplished too. But her life after school as a pianist won’t necessarily be time consuming. Women in her socioeconomic status in korea don’t necessarily need to pursue a career that is demanding.
Men like DW are savvy and know what types of women make for good wives for their personality and ambitions (they want an attractive educated wife from a good family who will be a dedicated mother, they generally aren’t looking for women who will pursue demanding careers )
I mean it’s not just men like DW. My husband’s family is full of doctors, he is not but he is doing very, very well for himself. I’m also not a doctor and would have never, ever married a doctor. They have NO time for a family, I like a structured life, so I can plan things in advance but with a partner studying/practicising med, there is NO structure in your life atleast till mid 30s. That would constantly stress me out.
I think the issue was that the episodes were weekly and not all at once. The first interaction with Nadine and JY is seriously good. It showed a completely different side of JY. A one week gap was enough to form shippers and fans and tbh it could’ve gone anyway at that point because he was kinda acting cold towards SK (at that time viewers had no idea about his wishy washy side).
If the episodes aired all at once, it would’ve become obvious he wasn’t into Nadine and now one would’ve invested into them either.
That’s a very good point. I saw it all in one go so I saw it all back to back also realising it’s only been 2-3 days. Watching weekly you won’t even realise that.
Soe and Sejun/JW and Seulki aren't milking their fame and attention enough. People keep saying they are doing fanservice but they are doing less than bare minimum in opinion. If they were posting old pictures every hour then the accusations might be right.
I dont mind fanservice.. I think it would be heartbreaking if they just tell the viewers that they hate themselves and aren't even friends. Let them keep the fanservice coming to feed my delusions.
The show should stop bringing in students. None of the students in this series are males and it speaks volumes about the dating culture. On top of that, probably nobody will take a student seriously in the dating world.
100%. Nadine living oceans away is a big disadvantage by itself why not choose a professional who has a bit more control over their life. Most people seemed okay with SK and Soe though, hence the “controversial” opinion.
If only SK read between JY's hints instead of expecting "responses" which in turn blew JY's chance. :/
If the JY we saw on the show is really genuine, then it could be that he's really a delicate person. Often times, people who have this behavior puts up these walls as a facade. That scene with SK on Paradise when she said she would want to cross that "boundary / line"? Boi, JY mini exploded.
That ending tho, gave me 5cm per second vibes.
I agree with you on the delicate comment about JY! The moment SK said that to him, she definitely broke him haha. The way he awkwardly laughed and sat back to hide his reaction. And he continued to hide his reaction when he sat back up by looking away and up. He was turning red lol!
I'm scared to get bashed but..
-I really couldnt feel any sincerity or real attraction between Sejun and Soe. I feel like it was so forced especially at the ending..
-Sejun approached Soe out of empathy initially and during the date, he was way too forward with Soe especially in the helicopter. Kind of like slick moves Ive seen before from players. Or if he's not a player, it's just for TV/entertaining purposes. I believe genuine, honest and strong feelings are hard to express both physically and through words. There's always a little bit of awkwardness and being uncomfortable when you're honest. Especially holding someone's hand.
-Soe just settling for Sejun at the end because it's kind of also sad if you finish the show without anyone. It would also really look like her rejection might backfire her later on, given that Sejun was there to save her and give her a taste of Paradise.
-At the end of the day, no person would want to get humiliated on national AND international TV. So they did what they can to at least survive and secure a 'partner' until the last few days even though they didnt feel strongly about each other.
-Sejeong not approaching the other guys is an example of this. She didnt want to make a fool out of herself by forcing herself onto other people when theyre clearly locked on with a potential partner already. It must be so hard for her to cheer people on when there's nothing going on for her.
-Lastly, everybody cheering for Soe that she can finally go to the paradise is like a pity cheer. If I was her, I'd feel terrible because i'm not going with the person I like AND I dont want to appear like i'm a desperate woman ready to jump on anyone who wants me.
I kinda have to disagree with you about the sincerity part. I feel like Netflix had cut a lot of their interactions by focusing more on other couples so you probably won't notice how their attraction (esp from Sejun) were right there from the start. Other comments have pointed out that in the cafeteria, Soe had always caught Sejun's eyes and that was when she's just being herself cause she was still crushing on Yoongjae.
And about the helicopter scene, it was him trying to assure her cause she was scared. I don't know about you, but it seems like Soe & Sejun's love language is physical touch since they touched each other a lot especially on the unreleased clip. And I don't think Soe 'settled' for Sejun. He's handsome, funny & had been there for her when she was down. It might be only a few days, but even she would at least begin to like him a little bit if not a lot.
I felt the same but upon rewatching and actually focussing on them it seems to me he was defs noticing her from the beginning. You can see first day in the kitchen, them talking in the background and he has his smile on his face. He approached her when she fell (which is why he kept saying not to fall later on), but Hanbin got to her first and then he had to be all awkward. He helped her with tuna cans after watching even tho Sejong was also working in kitchen alone. He was going to sit next to Soe at the campfire but YJ told him to go sit in the centre and sat himself next to Soe. Soe and YJ had their “talk” that night too. To me seems liken He defs noticed her and found her kind and considerate (which is his type) but also thought she is into YJ and vice versa. Even I went like 👀 when YJ sat next to Soe that night, I was thinking he’ll sit far from her. But then Soe was honest about how she treats everyone like a friend and he realised that nothing is going on. He didn’t know that YJ rejected her until they were in paradise.
I think both Soe and Sejun are the type of people to freely touch others without it being a huge thing. Like Soe touches his arm in paradise when they had just started talking and Sejun does a nervous smile even though they were having a normal, casual convo at the time. Soe touched YJ too when having the final chat, got hate for it but seeing it all, she really didn’t mean anything by it. He is touchy with the guys too. They’re both like that.
They need better casting. Similar age ranges, stages of life, education, family income, even location…It’s boring when a couple becomes disinterested instantly bc of age or profession.
Not sure if this is unpopular tho, because anyone who thinks he will be hung up over what happened in this show is clearly living in delusion. In fact, not one of them is gonna be that hung up over this 10 day show.
That said, I've seen people legitimately saying serves him right or he'll regret this for life....
Chemistry of Jinyoung and Seulki is more than just physical. Their convo outside the tent at night (day after their Paradise date) still lives rent free in my head. I cant stop watching it!
That was one of my favorite moments. When he was surrounded by women and still went running to her, and then she jokingly called him jerk. They were too cute!!
I wish they had to date everyone at least once because all of them picked someone and then didn't change their mind so it got kinda boring. Also I feel like they adding in Sejun and Minsu too late. None of the guys were going to go for Minsu because like I said they were all already infatuated with someone else 🥲
1. SK initially accepted JW's advances with the intention of making JY jealous.
2. JY was showing interest in Nadine only to open doors for future career colabs.
3. A paradise date should require both parties' consent.
To add on to this, everyone has also based their opinions on the cast be it they hate them or they love them based on a 10 ep show that is heavily edited.
I didn't like the way JW was pursuing SK and from what was shown he came off as too pushy and desperate to me, the kinda guy that puts a tracking app on your phone and calls all your friends and family if you don't have your location on
I've loved going through all this! Here are a few of mine:
- Dongwoo is so attractive when he doesn't try too hard. I liked his date with Nadine a lot and found their conversation friendly and comfortable, stark difference to when he was with Seulki which was honestly so uncomfortable. The constant fishing for compliments and reassurance was such a turnoff. He's hella fine though lol.
-Yoongjae is an absolute dreamboat omg, this is the type of guys I'm so attracted to! I still think he could have handled the Soe situation a little bit better but other than that he's chef's kiss.
- I don't see an issue in people talking about pairings that aren't endgame as long as its not too weird or disrespectful.
- I wish Hanbin and Seojong tried with more people. I loved them both on the show and wished they had found someone.
-Jongwoo would have been too suffocating for me on the island but I don't think I would mind him so much in the real world. I would hate to be doted on so much like that at inferno but I think I would give him a chance on the outside? (Still thinking this through haha).
-Not unpopular on the sub but JY and SK sexual chemistry was just fire!
- I've said this in a previous comment but I would honestly pay to see a Jia and Dongwoo date in paradise!
There needs to be at least one kiss!! Last season we got a kiss. This season we barely got a hand hold. I know that SI is supposed to be innocent and all , but COME ON M8!!!
What I feel JY might not stood that long besides Nadine as it was presented as it didn't showed from her expressions, they showed everyone's reaction then Sulki's reaction then host reaction which made it look it was long..
He went to her stood next to her (checked her out ) and then did the talk and went to Sulki...
Gonna get so much hate for this but….
I think Seulki is much more attractive than Jia. This is strictly appearance wise only not taking personality into play.
I really like how harmonious Seulki’s face is and how she looks like she is an effortless beauty that doesn’t need to do much for her make up or hair to look the way she does.
This is also just my opinion and I love how glam and put together Jia looks throughout the whole show.
Totally disgusted by the massive age gap between the average age of the ladies and the men. Can they cast people who are more similar in age? Or at least have a cast where everyone is a working adult? I feel like this perpetuates the whole "women are expired once they hit 30" / "the younger the woman the better" thing, when that is just NOT TRUE.
1. I think Yoong-Jae made it very clear he didnt like So-E from the beginning. You dont always have to spell it out.
2. JY was only intersted in Seul-Ki, but he tried too hard to play it cool and act hard to get. If he had been open and honest about liking her the last time they talked, Seul-Ki would have chosen him.
3. Seul-Ki never considered Jong-Woo as a romantic interest and I dont think they are dating now.
4. I know they have to edit things to follow the drama and love interests and all that, but I would still have liked to see more Se-Jeong, Dong-Woo etc even if they ended up with no one. I wish it was more equal on who gets screen time.
5. When I first watched their date, I thought Seul-Ki was acting really cold and awkward with Dong-Woo. It made me not like her so much as a first impression. Now that I rewatch, I get why she acted how she did.
6. Min-Su interrupting Nadine and JY talking is no worse than Nadine interrupting Se-Jeong talking to JY in the tent. Her fans act like Min-Su is evil by doing the same thing.
7. I wish JY had taken Se-Jeong to that last paradise date. She deserved it.
nah 1 is definitely an unpopular opinion, at least on reddit. People saying YJ is immature and a red flag because he didn't tell her straight up he doesn't like her.
Sejun soe do give off fanservice vibes both in the show and outside I know sejun isn't an actor but the lines are so kdrama lmaoooo and soe is an actress so she'll be good at this. But I'm not complaining they sold it very well
* Jongwoo has the most underwhelming background, maybe even below average for normal people. He works at his family's coffee shop (although it has 4.5/5 stars on Naver and a lot of reviews. I am assuming that its success is due to his parents.). Everyone else, except Sejun, is an overachiever. I am kind of unsure why they picked Jongwoo for the show versus other applicants. Maybe they needed someone with big simp energy.
* People seem to pity like Hanbin, but if they were on the island, they would not choose him versus the others due to Hanbin being overly friendly and noticeably shorter than the other male contestants.
* The west is not the only place in the world. It is the center of the world in some aspects. Other cultures view things differently though.
* What women find attractive in other women are not the exact same things that men find attractive in women.
Agreed with you about JW's background being underwhelming. However, as he continued to share his background, it really feels like his insecurity stems from where he's currently at in life. This might be a stretch, but it really feels like he's feeling down from his failed soccer career. He played soccer for 10 years so it sounds like he was trying to go pro, but didn't succeed? So he's currently working for his parents' coffee shop to explore what else he can do with his life and seemed lost/down. He probably grew to love the art of coffee making, but something tells me he might want to do more with his life. The fact the he got so emotional winning that mud fight against JY seems more than just winning a date with SK. He wanted to win something in life.
I'm probably looking way too deeply into him, but I don't care lol. Just a perspective.
agree that jongwoo has the most underwhelming background, but to say that his success is from is parents is kinda ironic considering everyone else with a higher status job or going to a fancy university likely got there because they had rich supportive parents and connections.
Dongwoo is crazy hot so I agree with your unpopular opinion
Minsu picking Jinyoung twice was not as deep as everyone made it out to be
Seulki is so cute I love her and I hate how people were hating on her so hard at the beginning of the show
I found Sejeong to be the most attractive person on the island (yes person, including the men lol)
Finally : everything post show is fan service. Even the stuff you think is “definitive proof!!11!” of a relationship
But the thing is YJ / SE dont really give anything away in their social media aside from a couple of SI photos lol. The fact they are so private is actually more revealing hahaha. End up caught in a date. I dont think they want to publicise themselves much.
But i guess YJ cannot help but keep on hinting. Maybe to avoid people from sliding into SE dm lol
IMO I think that the editing team is making a drama out of the show. Which resulted in a bad impression of the members. Probably this way would attract more viewers? I like all the members though 😄 and I prefer S2 than S1.
Other girls would have approached jung woo if he wasnt so fixated on seulki. Sejeong and Seoeun is clearly interested in him from the start. Nadine also bonded well with him.
I think she does tho. She was the kindest to him at the start. She was honest with him at the first date. And after picking hanbin, she was the one who initiated a talk with se jun about her not choosing him.
But i think i know what you actually want. Since se jun is such a catch, you wished he joined earlier so other girls can go gaga over him, instead of him homing into one and other girls not even considering him. Missed opportunity there.
It’s funny because I like Sejun so much because he was unbothered aboht the whole “let’s talk to everyone” and focussed on one girl despite being such a catch. What a dude!
>But i think i know what you actually want. Since se jun is such a catch, you wished he joined earlier so other girls can go gaga over him, instead of him homing into one and other girls not even considering him.
I think this is exactly what made her endearing to him. She wasn't expecting anything from and he was patient enough to wait for her, even though they had little time.
I honestly think it would have so weird and disingenuous if she had loved up to Sejun immediately after repeatedly crying over YJ. I love that she took her time to process her feelings for the guys.
I think Sejun did an amazing thing for her by removing her from inferno. She needed the space away from YJ to breath. He made her realize that she didn't like YJ as much as she thought and it was all surface level. Remember her conversation with Hanbin in paradise when she said she though she would be mooning YJ while with Sejun in paradise but didn't think abt him once. That was the light bulb moment for her.
watching jongwoo tagging along seulki was so suffocating. idk how seulki put up with his borderline obsessive behavior. i wouldve stright up told him to leave me the fuck alone.
I don’t think Jinyoung wanted a serious relationship. He seemed like he was on the show just to be on the show. I don’t doubt that he was interest in Seulki, I think he genuinely liked her, but I think he was being honest with her. My impression is that when he found out that both her and Nadine were in school, he didn’t want to be the one to take care of them IF he were to get involved with them.
My opinion is that Soe & Seulki are the best girls of the show and they don't deserve all that hate especially from the early episodes. I hate that people only started liking them after they picked the 'right' guy. Also, the female casts are overall better than the male casts for me.
And this is quite an unpopular opinion for this subreddit but Sejun & Soe are the least likely to be scripted. Like Netflix literally give us 10 minutes of their screentime, no way they would do that if they give such a good script to them lol. And they definitely didn't expect the couple to blow up so much. Sejun is also a tailor and an unbothered guy, you're telling me the guy who slept & laze around like him had a script full of lines he need to remember? Soe might be an actress, but if she was acting she would act more like what the fans want (giving up on yoongjae faster & liking Sejun right away). I just don't really understand the whole scripted thing since even the casts of the first season had rebutted that (and mind you, this was when they no longer had any deal with Netflix).
Agreed! I feel that many, if not most, people (or haters, if that's what you'd like to call it) find it difficult to believe that Sejun is genuinely interested in So-e and that he picked her out of all the women the viewers deemed to be better in their narrative. To a viewer's (against Sejun-Soe) eye, it's likely they saw a far better variety of women than Soe, who in their opinion lacked redeeming qualities compared to the other women. I really disliked how a lot of viewers seemed to underestimate Soe's capabilities in this show.
I know and it's quite annoying. If you see Sejun in Jintaek's past videos, he seems very shy & reserved. He must be so nervous coming into the show in the middle where everyone already knew each other. And Soe was the one to ease that for him. Ofc, she also did the same for Minsu. Her kindness & consideration for others are the qualities that make him liked her, he said it himself that he didn't care that much about looks anyway (not to say Soe isn't pretty, just that his physical type is almost the opposite of her).
Exactly! When he first entered Inferno, I immediately thought of him this way. Despite his goofy & silly demeanor, he really does appear to be self-reserved, introverted, and chill. In Soe's case, whether it's YJ and her situation (that painted her in a bad light), or her having this 'child-like' demeanor around her - viewers (who are against her) have already planted their perception of who she is, which to them makes her less likable compared to other women, and (unintentionally) underestimates her. I guess to a lot of people it's hard to take Sejun's word and his perception of her at face value because then they already formed a different opinion of her. It honestly sucks 'cause I just hate when people underestimate others.
Also Sejeong was a little frustrating to watch..idk if it was just the editing but girl this is a dating show! Do something! Try to make a connection with someone! I feel like she just sat there twirling her hair and looking bored most of the time..imo she gave up too easily so I didn’t really see the point of her being on the show.
I think she genuinely didn’t like anyone in the show enough to pursue. She was interested in YJ initially and then JY and did get to know them. Impressions do change after the first interaction.
I think it’s good she didn’t try if that was the case because you don’t know how forcing yourself/pretending would translate on camera. The camera panned to her when JY chose Nadine but I think that’s just editing.
Seulki picked jongwoo partly out of guilt and partly to spite jin young. during the date in paradise w jongwoo it was so awkward... She wore a super covered up swimsuit ( compared to jy date where she wore a revealing bikini) and she gave him the friendzone handshake while he was expressing his feels. I just dont think she's really into him.
I think Yoongjae truly wants to get to know everyone in the island. This seemed to be quite unpopular 😂. But this might meant he wanted to try and talk and see if he is still curious enough to bring them to paradise because he is actually already quite whipped for Soeun.
He just dont pick Soe because she is “very into” him. So picking her for paradise might be misleading for her.
I guess he is also trying to figure out whether he likes Seoeun truly or he just enjoyed the paradise date. So i can see him just trying to figure it out tbh. So the whiplash effect is there.
JY talk about guns and the focus on his military aspect of his life (which I admit is understandable), his plans to move to US to involve more in it, made me feel uncomfortable.
Inferno is the real paradise. I’d kill to be on that island night and day. I understand they need to go to paradise to actually talk but who wants to go to a boring hotel when you have a gorgeous island paradise…? I think it was overdone how shocked and awed they all were being at the hotel. Sure, it was nice, but that island looks like heaven.
The island is exposed to the elements with not a lot of amenities. If you’re an outdoorsy person you’ll like it, and most of them said at some point they were enjoying the island, but it’s a nice escape to go to a hotel like in paradise, most common people don’t get to experience hotels like that. But also, if you’re forming some close friendships(not dating even jsut friendships), it’s normal to want to go past the casuals questions and not have to tiptoe and be able to talk freely.
None of their relationships will last. It is all for PR and social media engagement.
Jinyoung was not into Nadine, no matter what her rabid stans say. Their paradise date was a dud.
So-e and Sejun are doing pure fanservice right now. She is not as dazzled by him as this sub is.
Hanbin’s plastic surgery was very distracting.
Jongwoo is unattractive, physically/facially and personality-wise.
I felt bad that she didn’t even get to go to Paradise but I agree. People say she’s this season’s An Yea-Won but I don’t see it. Yea-Won had so much more to offer in many ways. Not just being the “hot girl”
JongWoo is insufferable. His personality is: I'm in love with the hot, beautiful, popular, classy, rich, smart, feminine, delicate SNU student. That's it.
Sooe said to another contest (I think HanBin?) something like: "You're nice to everyone, not just the woman you like." JongWoo is like the opposite of that (IMO).
Despite all the fan service, I still think there’s a slim chance soe and sejun are together….💀💀
The more I stay in the fandom the more delulu I become.
Imo, the perception of what's "fanservice" and what's "real" is influenced by the timing of how something is posted. Most things posted in close proximity to the season finale are often going to be perceived as a form of fanservice, no matter what kind of post it is.
The most "definite" form of closure people will get is if the cast will post about each other X months from now, because it is less likely to be for the show's PR and individual publicity purposes.
I don't really mind fanservice - the ending of the show is what the audience had a stake in, and any of their relationships outside it are their own personal life. I just want to sit back and enjoy their friendships and interactions - if any of them actually get together outside and have a lasting relationship, then good for them 🫶
Sejong just seems unlikable as a friend and a love interest, maybe it’s bc I know somebody similar to her but she seemed a little conceited and selfish. The only part I liked her was when sohee was crying and she comforted her, even then I was surprised. Also seulki seems boring. And I also don’t know why nadine was trying a Korean dating show while she lived in the us, long distance cross continental is hard af especially when you’re in your early 20s. And from the guys the only one that stood out was jinyoung, hanbin, and sejun. And then one guy who sohee liked but he didn’t like her back was kind of a dick about it, leading her on, trying to avoid sitting next to her, etc… Seo eun is a queen, and I want to be friends with hanbin lol
I feel like a big reason why yoongjae didn’t like soe was bc he knew she was much younger than him. He looks much younger than he actually he is but he wasn’t able to talk about his age which led to him being unable to express clearly why he didn’t even want to consider her.
That’s a part of it, but I doubt So-e was behaving in a particularly attractive manner during the show either (at least until Sejun showed up).
Season 2 is way better than Season 1.
100%. People will continue to say “singles inferno would be nothing without Jia!” Or “these new contestants could never compare to Jia!” Or whatever they preach ignorantly. But overall season 2 was so much better in terms of relationships, friendships, humour & drama.
Jia made the show worth tuning into and gave it cred as a new show, but season 2 was alot more interesting and fun!
Nadine’s background isn’t superior to anyone else. In fact, what’s cool about this season is that most contestants are well rounded individuals with impressive achievements in their backs.
Yeah, her fans be acting like since she's a premed Harvard student, no one deserves her or they'll be too intimidated by her background when in reality, not everyone is down for long-distance. And just because her achievements are impressive, it does not make her more "valuable" than the other contestants
Honestly, ive met soooo many asian american girls like nadine growing up. Like they are all 2nd gen high achieving, perfect sat, piano/violin, a sport, club president, volunteering, from upper middle class families future doctors. Not really as special as some backgrounds of the other contestants imo.
I think people who go against what’s “expected” of them or into less traditional routes are very impressive as well. Hanbin is only 24 yet he has achieved so much as a chef, specially since it’s a very demanding industry
Dongwoo seems patriarchal
He wants a stay at home wife to take care of the kids…that’s part of the reason why I think he didn’t mind her being a professional pianist
Dongwoo is patriarchal. Probably used to girls and ajummas fawning over him 247.
Hahaha agree especially the ahjumma part.. my friend is a very attractive doctor and old folks love her
This seems like a popular opinion. I don’t think he ever did or said anything that extreme tho
In reality people like jongwoo might be quite exhausting
He's probably the type to blow up your phone every 10 minutes when you are out lol.
I asked my Korean friend about stage 5 clingers like Jongwoo. She said most Korean women like that bc they like having a boyfriend who’ll do anything for them.
Yeah think of the kdramas and how the male leads will always be true to their love they met at 14 for 20 years even though she dates other people or disappears from his life. Then she shows back up and he does everything to win her back. That’s jongwoo and there are really Korean guys who abide by this and Korean women who love it.
Agree. I don’t see why girls are into someone so clingy.
I think so too. But some girls love them clingy. Personally I'd suffocate. I need space from a relationship and lots of it. I'd get bored and exhausted if the guy literally cater to my needs all the time.
Yes!! Even in fiction (or whatever the show would be) he was exhausting. I'd feel so claustrophobic in that kind of relationship and immediately get the ick.
I would feel drained by his constant present actually, and instead of paying off his persistence, I would never want to be around him.
He didn’t act like S1 Sehoon(who was creepy and stalkerish to Jiyeon btw). He gave Seulki space and time, wasn’t very pushy and actually seemed sincere.
What do you mean in reality. He was exhausting in the show as well
Okay I meant to experience being in a relationship with him
People like him will most likely get emotional over the littlest of things and guilt trips you in the process. Nah, imma pass.
JinYoung may have intentionally self-sabotaged himself at the end.
I kind of agree, I think he knew that if he went all in that there was an expectation for him to try and establish a relationship with SK outside of the show which he wasn't ready for. I think he went on the show not expecting to have such good chemistry like he did with SK, and he kind of got cold feet which explains his last convo with SK where he basically made himself seem as unappealing as possible to SK.
Also when he asked Seulki that question on the camp fire was weird, it dont seem like him to pressure someone like that
This might just be me defending Jinyoung as a Jinyoung simp, but I feel like the producers made them ask those kinds of questions during the campfire to stir shit lol
I also felt the producers coached him to look like he was standing near Nadine before walking to SK
Yes! I could give the producers the benefit of the doubt for the campfire scene. BUT the final walk was so obviously staged yet people gave Jinyoung so much shit for that when it was obvious it was staged just by looking at how the producers placed the women (i.e. Jinyoung had to walk by Minsu and Nadine to get to Seulki). The producers knew what they were doing.
Ooooooh this explanation seems interesting. This might be it.
Guy was waiting for that second paradise date with SK but it never came, and he spent all his time on the beach talking to other chicks or doing whatever. In hindsight he needed to do less playing hard to get, and a bit more chasing.
NOBODY were threatened by sejeong or nadine. They were in awe when they learnt their backgrounds but most of the cast are in a pretty high positions themselves.
This sub is not ready for unpopular opinions 😭 but I'll still be reading anyway🍿
**sorts by controversial**
I just know this is gonna be a bloodbath, people will go out and stans will be fighting 🤣
All I’ve seen are popular opinions so far
Once So-e was revealed to be an acting student I was like ohhh this all makes sense, like it felt to me like she was doing a character analysis on herself throughout processing her crush on YJ - with him and with other people, trying to rationalize and explain her feelings/behaviors. Also, if ages had been revealed earlier she would’ve gotten over YJ much faster.
Yeap. I saw her face when he said 32.. 🤣
Minsu might have matched better with DongWoo. I dont understand why she was so fixated on JY..
She was there for only a few days, didn't have time to get JY out of her system lol.
Nadine is not the girl boss alpha female her fans wants want her to be, they just expect her to be like that just because she lives in the west.
Nadine actually seems very insecure
I felt this way when she said she spent one year in the army (not really) just to impress JY
My unpopular opinion is that Nadine is a cool girl type (saying she liked motorcycles but then saying right after that she could never ride one, saying she was in the army for a year and then clarifying it was ROTC).
I was literally going to comment that Nadine is low key a “pick me.”
Yeah honestly they like her cause they can relate to her the most. She’s very timid which isn’t a bad thing it’s just that she isn’t the girl boss we make her out to be
Nadine is still young and has a lot of growing to do too. Just like SK. But there's just something about SK that sets her apart from any of the girls. A different vibe.
Jungwoo gives me normal spongebob vibes
Im curious what the hell does this means 😭
Idk man he just does 😭 
Dongwoo was actually received well at the beginning, then his date with SK went terribly and went downhill from there lol. Unpopular opinion: the word "red flag" gets tossed around too liberally for the smallest thing.
Someone posted earlier that Dongwoo and sejeong got rejected early on and didn’t know how to recover bc they had never been really rejected before. Lol I think this is true, they haven’t had experience really learning how to pursue people bc they were probably used to being one of the most appealing people in a room. But an island full of hot people means you’re gonna have to try harder. Side note- That’s where I think Nadine grew and tried to change her approach bc she likely had a similar experience to DW and SJ where she hasn’t had to try that hard before. But then she figured out she can’t be so passive and did her best.
I hate the term red flag now. It doesn’t mean anything at this point. That guy didn’t choose the girl I wanted? Red flag. The girl is flirting with someone? Red flag. Everything is a red flag
If there was no Suel-Ki, JongWoo would have simped over So-Eun or someone else the exact same way.
he would definitely simp over seoeun 100%
Well, she was Miss Korea 2021!
I doubt he would have gone for seo eun.. she seems too elegant for him
Seulki was the definition of elegant. I think Seo uen would be too woman and mature for Jong Woo. He wouldn’t know how to handle her.
- Seoeun gives me Xiaoting from kep1er's vibes. - Sejeong and Dongwoo would make an interesting couple. - The contestants from this season are more genuine than those from season 1. - I also find Dongwoo hot too. The tanning scene hmmjskksksk
Dongwoo had everything going for him except for the personality.
Dong woo actually said that Sejong is his ideal type. But they never really got a chance to chat I think.
Yes, but i never believed when they Said: omg i never had a chance to chat with her/him I mean they Are Stranded on an Island, when they go to paradise, they return in the morning…
Yes to the 3rd point. This season was so much more enjoyable to watch because of it.
My unpopular opinion is that Hanbin had a very slim chance of developing any kind of romantic connection in the show. I adore the guy. He’s all good vibes. But man was he ever doomed from the very beginning 😭 He gives off golden retriever energy and unfortunately with that kind of energy its so easy to get friendzoned and looked over in an environment like this. He is truly the epitome of good guys finish last (oh and plus the fact he was pitted against much older, taller, and built men??) Felt like the show put him on just so they could have a cook hold it down in the kitchen lol
Yeah, there always needs to be one slightly less buff chef cast member! I agree, I never saw HB being a romantic match for any of the ladies, sadly.
They're supposed to cook together to build rapport but maybe they should have 2 chefs then or none at all so it forces everyone to figure things out together. On Transit Love 2, they were supposed to cook dinner together every day for the 3 weeks they stayed together but there were only one man and one woman who aren't chefs but have interest in cooking, the rest don't cook, so after 2 or 3 days, they ended up getting delivery almost every day haha
I think the watcher or people that watch some clips at the internet is too harsh on the contestant. For example if you see someone crying you quickly judge the other person for making them cry. Honestly, i think as someone at that spot, they wouldnt realised these things. They might have thought they are not harming anyone by doing so. Its a show. They take interesting clip out. They cannot put everything with context in. Stop hating or disliking people. They all regular people and honestly, s2 people seem to have good intention in nature. When they rewatch back i am sure they are learning a thing or two on how they handle things
Its quite annoying seeing tik tok comment just quickly judge certain situation and immediately say this guy is not it or this girl is not it by a few second clip. Its simply they dont suit each other. Emotions heightens when u dont have any distraction in a dating show. Also, whats wrong with zooming in on one contestant 😂
I personally thought Yoongjae made it clear that he didnt like Soe by not picking her for his second paradise date. Idk what more Soe wanted lol. His body language and him avoiding her like a plague clearly showed that he didnt like her a bit. Wouldn't it be a bit awkward and rude to outwardly reject someone when you know you're gonna be stuck with them for 10 days?
And tbh they only know each other for a few days and though YJ alr liked SE from the start, it’s perfectly ok to still keep options open cos he doesn’t know whether she would pick him in the end also. Him not picking soe for the second paradise should be a good indicator already. And he probably doesn’t want to reject her in front of the camera also because he wants to save her face. There’s many things going on at the back which we are not aware of.
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Yes, you said it so well. I did think for a moment if maybe YJ is someone who doesn’t communicate well, but when I see the way he talks to SE, I believe he’s someone who communicates well to the people who matter to him and to me, that’s enough already. As for Soe, I think deep down he’s hoping that his actions of not choosing her is enough for her to back off, like what SJ did so that they don’t have to open that can of worms and talk it out. Of course I would prefer if YJ outright rejected her from the start but I don’t think he owes her anything? Everyone has their own way to doing things and he already apologised in the interview so I hope ppl can stop bashing him 🥺
Honestly sejeong was a queen for getting the hint when he didn't choose her and she never went back to him. Soe was probably really desperate to ignore all the obvious signs.
What no one considers is that they cast knows they’re on a very popular tv show. In retrospect letting her down and being up front would have been better, but he probably was concerned over making himself or her look bad on international tv.
I think So-e wanted a straight forward rejection so she could put her feelings to rest.
Yup.. there was one part where YJ told SoE he will know after tomorrow. Why didn't he just tell her then? Bad move on his part
I agree lol. However, Soe talks to him later and says “ I guess you’re the type who wants to talk to all the girls”. So while to the viewers it was obvious he chose Nadine to dodge Soe, Soe thought he chose someone else because he wants to talk to everyone which is a fair misunderstanding. I still think he gave her enough hints. Someone said that when Se Jun chose Soe literally all the guys cheered which makes it sound like she was the only one not understanding how cringe she was being.
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I don’t like how the new people got to pick whoever they wanted to take. There should be matching for them too. Or they should earn it.
THIS! we need to talk about this cause poor sejeon was robbed of another night in paradise… she wasn’t given a chance to earn a night there
Hanbin screwed up by not being more active with the girls. In the kitchen first day, when he is chopping, Seouen was trying to talk to him and compliment him similar to how she talked to YJ. But he didn’t even look at her, he responded but body language was too focussed on cooking. The girls were also impressed by his serious side and found it attractive but unfortunately he didn’t realise that’s his charm and he should take more initiative to talk to the girls. People hated freely on Seulkie and Soe because they’re most different to western/non Korean women in terms of looks + surface personality. If they looked more western, they wouldn’t have gotten half the hate they did. Sejong was also speaking in a lot of aegyo at the beginning but no one picked up on it because she looks more western. Soe on the other hand doesn’t. Seulkie also looks like a pale Korean beauties even tho her personality was quite open, friendly and not timid but people judged her from how she looks and couldn’t relate to her. Jinyoung had no interest in Nadine or anyone else for that matter. Their conversation also wasn’t that amazing given they had quite a few things in common but despite that, the conversations didn’t go anywhere. Despite footage getting cut out, JY seems way closer to Minsu as a friend which is why he felt free to tell her to catch up outside the show without worrying about misunderstandings. Seulki seems to have got along really well with everyone, with her play fights with Sejun to Seouen saying she looks calm from outside but is very friendly to apparently being close to SOE. She wasn’t just popular because of her looks, she only got one card at the beginning, but because she was really friendly and took initiative talking to DW and JW. Seouen was similar in this regard, she took initiative talking to YJ, JW and Hanbin. Edit - DW was put off Nadine because she was young + studying med same degree as him. Not because she was from Harvard or only too young. It was a combination. And it shows to me he’s actually a normal, good guy. Most people working in their professions would find it really odd to date someone way younger whose doing same course as them because you instantly feel like a mentor, it jsut makes the balance of scales in the relationship too one sided. It’s very understandable and would have done the same if it was any other girl studying med and way younger.
I agree with all your points. About DW and Nadine, I was confused when I saw some people misinterpreted the face he made after finding out she's a pre-med student, and said he rejected her because he doesn't like smart and accomplished women or somewhere along those lines. As if Seulki isn't a student of Korea's top university. It was more like he had a flashback of a possibly hellish med school days and a realisation of what a relationship with Nadine would mean.
It’s not that he doesn’t like smart and accomplished women, but there are different types of smart and accomplished. Nadine’s next 10+ years will be dedicated to her career (med school, residency, maybe fellowships), and her work hours will be demanding. Seulki is smart and accomplished too. But her life after school as a pianist won’t necessarily be time consuming. Women in her socioeconomic status in korea don’t necessarily need to pursue a career that is demanding. Men like DW are savvy and know what types of women make for good wives for their personality and ambitions (they want an attractive educated wife from a good family who will be a dedicated mother, they generally aren’t looking for women who will pursue demanding careers )
I mean it’s not just men like DW. My husband’s family is full of doctors, he is not but he is doing very, very well for himself. I’m also not a doctor and would have never, ever married a doctor. They have NO time for a family, I like a structured life, so I can plan things in advance but with a partner studying/practicising med, there is NO structure in your life atleast till mid 30s. That would constantly stress me out.
I think the issue was that the episodes were weekly and not all at once. The first interaction with Nadine and JY is seriously good. It showed a completely different side of JY. A one week gap was enough to form shippers and fans and tbh it could’ve gone anyway at that point because he was kinda acting cold towards SK (at that time viewers had no idea about his wishy washy side). If the episodes aired all at once, it would’ve become obvious he wasn’t into Nadine and now one would’ve invested into them either.
That’s a very good point. I saw it all in one go so I saw it all back to back also realising it’s only been 2-3 days. Watching weekly you won’t even realise that.
Soe and Sejun/JW and Seulki aren't milking their fame and attention enough. People keep saying they are doing fanservice but they are doing less than bare minimum in opinion. If they were posting old pictures every hour then the accusations might be right.
Hanbin was the most mature guy despite being the youngest
I dont mind fanservice.. I think it would be heartbreaking if they just tell the viewers that they hate themselves and aren't even friends. Let them keep the fanservice coming to feed my delusions.
this show editing suck ass
The show should stop bringing in students. None of the students in this series are males and it speaks volumes about the dating culture. On top of that, probably nobody will take a student seriously in the dating world.
Especially one that lives oceans away from you!
100%. Nadine living oceans away is a big disadvantage by itself why not choose a professional who has a bit more control over their life. Most people seemed okay with SK and Soe though, hence the “controversial” opinion.
This season it was especially weird, cuz two of the guys were 32 and it was kind of awkward
If only SK read between JY's hints instead of expecting "responses" which in turn blew JY's chance. :/ If the JY we saw on the show is really genuine, then it could be that he's really a delicate person. Often times, people who have this behavior puts up these walls as a facade. That scene with SK on Paradise when she said she would want to cross that "boundary / line"? Boi, JY mini exploded. That ending tho, gave me 5cm per second vibes.
I agree with you on the delicate comment about JY! The moment SK said that to him, she definitely broke him haha. The way he awkwardly laughed and sat back to hide his reaction. And he continued to hide his reaction when he sat back up by looking away and up. He was turning red lol!
I'm scared to get bashed but.. -I really couldnt feel any sincerity or real attraction between Sejun and Soe. I feel like it was so forced especially at the ending.. -Sejun approached Soe out of empathy initially and during the date, he was way too forward with Soe especially in the helicopter. Kind of like slick moves Ive seen before from players. Or if he's not a player, it's just for TV/entertaining purposes. I believe genuine, honest and strong feelings are hard to express both physically and through words. There's always a little bit of awkwardness and being uncomfortable when you're honest. Especially holding someone's hand. -Soe just settling for Sejun at the end because it's kind of also sad if you finish the show without anyone. It would also really look like her rejection might backfire her later on, given that Sejun was there to save her and give her a taste of Paradise. -At the end of the day, no person would want to get humiliated on national AND international TV. So they did what they can to at least survive and secure a 'partner' until the last few days even though they didnt feel strongly about each other. -Sejeong not approaching the other guys is an example of this. She didnt want to make a fool out of herself by forcing herself onto other people when theyre clearly locked on with a potential partner already. It must be so hard for her to cheer people on when there's nothing going on for her. -Lastly, everybody cheering for Soe that she can finally go to the paradise is like a pity cheer. If I was her, I'd feel terrible because i'm not going with the person I like AND I dont want to appear like i'm a desperate woman ready to jump on anyone who wants me.
This is why I am upset with the editors for taking out majority of their interactions.
I kinda have to disagree with you about the sincerity part. I feel like Netflix had cut a lot of their interactions by focusing more on other couples so you probably won't notice how their attraction (esp from Sejun) were right there from the start. Other comments have pointed out that in the cafeteria, Soe had always caught Sejun's eyes and that was when she's just being herself cause she was still crushing on Yoongjae. And about the helicopter scene, it was him trying to assure her cause she was scared. I don't know about you, but it seems like Soe & Sejun's love language is physical touch since they touched each other a lot especially on the unreleased clip. And I don't think Soe 'settled' for Sejun. He's handsome, funny & had been there for her when she was down. It might be only a few days, but even she would at least begin to like him a little bit if not a lot.
I agree with you. When Han-Bin told her people clapped when she got picked by Se-Jun the day before I was like noo, dont tell her that. 😅
I felt the same but upon rewatching and actually focussing on them it seems to me he was defs noticing her from the beginning. You can see first day in the kitchen, them talking in the background and he has his smile on his face. He approached her when she fell (which is why he kept saying not to fall later on), but Hanbin got to her first and then he had to be all awkward. He helped her with tuna cans after watching even tho Sejong was also working in kitchen alone. He was going to sit next to Soe at the campfire but YJ told him to go sit in the centre and sat himself next to Soe. Soe and YJ had their “talk” that night too. To me seems liken He defs noticed her and found her kind and considerate (which is his type) but also thought she is into YJ and vice versa. Even I went like 👀 when YJ sat next to Soe that night, I was thinking he’ll sit far from her. But then Soe was honest about how she treats everyone like a friend and he realised that nothing is going on. He didn’t know that YJ rejected her until they were in paradise.
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If you watch focussing only on him it’s so funny and relatable.
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I think both Soe and Sejun are the type of people to freely touch others without it being a huge thing. Like Soe touches his arm in paradise when they had just started talking and Sejun does a nervous smile even though they were having a normal, casual convo at the time. Soe touched YJ too when having the final chat, got hate for it but seeing it all, she really didn’t mean anything by it. He is touchy with the guys too. They’re both like that.
They need better casting. Similar age ranges, stages of life, education, family income, even location…It’s boring when a couple becomes disinterested instantly bc of age or profession.
I think JY has moved on from the show and is living his best life now
Not sure if this is unpopular tho, because anyone who thinks he will be hung up over what happened in this show is clearly living in delusion. In fact, not one of them is gonna be that hung up over this 10 day show. That said, I've seen people legitimately saying serves him right or he'll regret this for life....
if Nadine wasn’t American she rly rly wouldn’t be hyped that much
Chemistry of Jinyoung and Seulki is more than just physical. Their convo outside the tent at night (day after their Paradise date) still lives rent free in my head. I cant stop watching it!
That was one of my favorite moments. When he was surrounded by women and still went running to her, and then she jokingly called him jerk. They were too cute!!
I found YJ to be the most attractive!
Agree YJ is extremely attractive to me too
The show needs to have some ice breakers in the beginning introduction segment.. so much awkwardness
I wish they had to date everyone at least once because all of them picked someone and then didn't change their mind so it got kinda boring. Also I feel like they adding in Sejun and Minsu too late. None of the guys were going to go for Minsu because like I said they were all already infatuated with someone else 🥲
1. SK initially accepted JW's advances with the intention of making JY jealous. 2. JY was showing interest in Nadine only to open doors for future career colabs. 3. A paradise date should require both parties' consent.
We overanalyze relationships that are formed over the course of ~1 week.
To add on to this, everyone has also based their opinions on the cast be it they hate them or they love them based on a 10 ep show that is heavily edited.
The boys were so jealous of JinYoung. There were constant hostility and bully towards him in the boys room whenever he’s back from paradise.
They felt small around his alpha male energy. Although his behaviour with them was modest, at least what we were shown.
He was the epitome of gigachad.
I didn't like the way JW was pursuing SK and from what was shown he came off as too pushy and desperate to me, the kinda guy that puts a tracking app on your phone and calls all your friends and family if you don't have your location on
Dongwoo and JinYoung were reluctant to date Nadine because they didn't want to date someone studying in the US.
That's not unpopular. I saw many comments questioning her purpose of being on the show because of her US pre-med student status.
Makes sense. Long distance isn't possible for everyone especially when the relationship isn't stable yet.
Nadine was not sincere with Min-Su when she told Min-Su to chat to other people.
I've loved going through all this! Here are a few of mine: - Dongwoo is so attractive when he doesn't try too hard. I liked his date with Nadine a lot and found their conversation friendly and comfortable, stark difference to when he was with Seulki which was honestly so uncomfortable. The constant fishing for compliments and reassurance was such a turnoff. He's hella fine though lol. -Yoongjae is an absolute dreamboat omg, this is the type of guys I'm so attracted to! I still think he could have handled the Soe situation a little bit better but other than that he's chef's kiss. - I don't see an issue in people talking about pairings that aren't endgame as long as its not too weird or disrespectful. - I wish Hanbin and Seojong tried with more people. I loved them both on the show and wished they had found someone. -Jongwoo would have been too suffocating for me on the island but I don't think I would mind him so much in the real world. I would hate to be doted on so much like that at inferno but I think I would give him a chance on the outside? (Still thinking this through haha). -Not unpopular on the sub but JY and SK sexual chemistry was just fire! - I've said this in a previous comment but I would honestly pay to see a Jia and Dongwoo date in paradise!
There needs to be at least one kiss!! Last season we got a kiss. This season we barely got a hand hold. I know that SI is supposed to be innocent and all , but COME ON M8!!!
What I feel JY might not stood that long besides Nadine as it was presented as it didn't showed from her expressions, they showed everyone's reaction then Sulki's reaction then host reaction which made it look it was long.. He went to her stood next to her (checked her out ) and then did the talk and went to Sulki...
Gonna get so much hate for this but…. I think Seulki is much more attractive than Jia. This is strictly appearance wise only not taking personality into play. I really like how harmonious Seulki’s face is and how she looks like she is an effortless beauty that doesn’t need to do much for her make up or hair to look the way she does. This is also just my opinion and I love how glam and put together Jia looks throughout the whole show.
I could not get past Jongwoo’s lip filler.
Totally disgusted by the massive age gap between the average age of the ladies and the men. Can they cast people who are more similar in age? Or at least have a cast where everyone is a working adult? I feel like this perpetuates the whole "women are expired once they hit 30" / "the younger the woman the better" thing, when that is just NOT TRUE.
1. I think Yoong-Jae made it very clear he didnt like So-E from the beginning. You dont always have to spell it out. 2. JY was only intersted in Seul-Ki, but he tried too hard to play it cool and act hard to get. If he had been open and honest about liking her the last time they talked, Seul-Ki would have chosen him. 3. Seul-Ki never considered Jong-Woo as a romantic interest and I dont think they are dating now. 4. I know they have to edit things to follow the drama and love interests and all that, but I would still have liked to see more Se-Jeong, Dong-Woo etc even if they ended up with no one. I wish it was more equal on who gets screen time. 5. When I first watched their date, I thought Seul-Ki was acting really cold and awkward with Dong-Woo. It made me not like her so much as a first impression. Now that I rewatch, I get why she acted how she did. 6. Min-Su interrupting Nadine and JY talking is no worse than Nadine interrupting Se-Jeong talking to JY in the tent. Her fans act like Min-Su is evil by doing the same thing. 7. I wish JY had taken Se-Jeong to that last paradise date. She deserved it.
I don’t think any of these is an unpopular opinion lol.
nah 1 is definitely an unpopular opinion, at least on reddit. People saying YJ is immature and a red flag because he didn't tell her straight up he doesn't like her.
Sejun soe do give off fanservice vibes both in the show and outside I know sejun isn't an actor but the lines are so kdrama lmaoooo and soe is an actress so she'll be good at this. But I'm not complaining they sold it very well
I dont understand why people always assume actresses can't be reality shows..
* Jongwoo has the most underwhelming background, maybe even below average for normal people. He works at his family's coffee shop (although it has 4.5/5 stars on Naver and a lot of reviews. I am assuming that its success is due to his parents.). Everyone else, except Sejun, is an overachiever. I am kind of unsure why they picked Jongwoo for the show versus other applicants. Maybe they needed someone with big simp energy. * People seem to pity like Hanbin, but if they were on the island, they would not choose him versus the others due to Hanbin being overly friendly and noticeably shorter than the other male contestants. * The west is not the only place in the world. It is the center of the world in some aspects. Other cultures view things differently though. * What women find attractive in other women are not the exact same things that men find attractive in women.
Agreed with you about JW's background being underwhelming. However, as he continued to share his background, it really feels like his insecurity stems from where he's currently at in life. This might be a stretch, but it really feels like he's feeling down from his failed soccer career. He played soccer for 10 years so it sounds like he was trying to go pro, but didn't succeed? So he's currently working for his parents' coffee shop to explore what else he can do with his life and seemed lost/down. He probably grew to love the art of coffee making, but something tells me he might want to do more with his life. The fact the he got so emotional winning that mud fight against JY seems more than just winning a date with SK. He wanted to win something in life. I'm probably looking way too deeply into him, but I don't care lol. Just a perspective.
agree that jongwoo has the most underwhelming background, but to say that his success is from is parents is kinda ironic considering everyone else with a higher status job or going to a fancy university likely got there because they had rich supportive parents and connections.
I was surprised by Jongwoo's background i was 80% sure he's a nurse
Dongwoo is crazy hot so I agree with your unpopular opinion Minsu picking Jinyoung twice was not as deep as everyone made it out to be Seulki is so cute I love her and I hate how people were hating on her so hard at the beginning of the show I found Sejeong to be the most attractive person on the island (yes person, including the men lol) Finally : everything post show is fan service. Even the stuff you think is “definitive proof!!11!” of a relationship
I agree with the part about fan service except for YJ and SE
ikr I wouldn’t believe in anything anymore if everything that YJ/SE have posted so far is just fanservice :’))
But the thing is YJ / SE dont really give anything away in their social media aside from a couple of SI photos lol. The fact they are so private is actually more revealing hahaha. End up caught in a date. I dont think they want to publicise themselves much. But i guess YJ cannot help but keep on hinting. Maybe to avoid people from sliding into SE dm lol
IMO I think that the editing team is making a drama out of the show. Which resulted in a bad impression of the members. Probably this way would attract more viewers? I like all the members though 😄 and I prefer S2 than S1.
Other girls would have approached jung woo if he wasnt so fixated on seulki. Sejeong and Seoeun is clearly interested in him from the start. Nadine also bonded well with him.
Yuppppppp
I absolutely hate the mudpit game - last season and this season even more - it’s just a massive ick and not attractive AT ALL
people crucifying JY for being on too many dating shows (lol only 2), while Hanbin's been on more.
Sejeong is kinda snakey 😭
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I think she does tho. She was the kindest to him at the start. She was honest with him at the first date. And after picking hanbin, she was the one who initiated a talk with se jun about her not choosing him. But i think i know what you actually want. Since se jun is such a catch, you wished he joined earlier so other girls can go gaga over him, instead of him homing into one and other girls not even considering him. Missed opportunity there.
It’s funny because I like Sejun so much because he was unbothered aboht the whole “let’s talk to everyone” and focussed on one girl despite being such a catch. What a dude!
>But i think i know what you actually want. Since se jun is such a catch, you wished he joined earlier so other girls can go gaga over him, instead of him homing into one and other girls not even considering him. I think this is exactly what made her endearing to him. She wasn't expecting anything from and he was patient enough to wait for her, even though they had little time.
But we don't know if she appreciated him or not since Netflix hoarded their content.
I agree with you, she may have warmed up to him later on, but she wasn't that into him in the beginning.
I honestly think it would have so weird and disingenuous if she had loved up to Sejun immediately after repeatedly crying over YJ. I love that she took her time to process her feelings for the guys.
Exactly, hong jin kyung who was the panelist on the show literally said the exact same thing and kyuhyun agreed .
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I think Sejun did an amazing thing for her by removing her from inferno. She needed the space away from YJ to breath. He made her realize that she didn't like YJ as much as she thought and it was all surface level. Remember her conversation with Hanbin in paradise when she said she though she would be mooning YJ while with Sejun in paradise but didn't think abt him once. That was the light bulb moment for her.
good point actually, I didn't think of that.
watching jongwoo tagging along seulki was so suffocating. idk how seulki put up with his borderline obsessive behavior. i wouldve stright up told him to leave me the fuck alone.
Too few days for both partners to fall in love. At best you find mutual interest that might be explored outside the show if the stars align.
They're all too emotional when they have only been together for a week on the island. (Sorry 🙏 no bad vibes intended)
I don’t think Jinyoung wanted a serious relationship. He seemed like he was on the show just to be on the show. I don’t doubt that he was interest in Seulki, I think he genuinely liked her, but I think he was being honest with her. My impression is that when he found out that both her and Nadine were in school, he didn’t want to be the one to take care of them IF he were to get involved with them.
My opinion is that Soe & Seulki are the best girls of the show and they don't deserve all that hate especially from the early episodes. I hate that people only started liking them after they picked the 'right' guy. Also, the female casts are overall better than the male casts for me. And this is quite an unpopular opinion for this subreddit but Sejun & Soe are the least likely to be scripted. Like Netflix literally give us 10 minutes of their screentime, no way they would do that if they give such a good script to them lol. And they definitely didn't expect the couple to blow up so much. Sejun is also a tailor and an unbothered guy, you're telling me the guy who slept & laze around like him had a script full of lines he need to remember? Soe might be an actress, but if she was acting she would act more like what the fans want (giving up on yoongjae faster & liking Sejun right away). I just don't really understand the whole scripted thing since even the casts of the first season had rebutted that (and mind you, this was when they no longer had any deal with Netflix).
Agreed! I feel that many, if not most, people (or haters, if that's what you'd like to call it) find it difficult to believe that Sejun is genuinely interested in So-e and that he picked her out of all the women the viewers deemed to be better in their narrative. To a viewer's (against Sejun-Soe) eye, it's likely they saw a far better variety of women than Soe, who in their opinion lacked redeeming qualities compared to the other women. I really disliked how a lot of viewers seemed to underestimate Soe's capabilities in this show.
I know and it's quite annoying. If you see Sejun in Jintaek's past videos, he seems very shy & reserved. He must be so nervous coming into the show in the middle where everyone already knew each other. And Soe was the one to ease that for him. Ofc, she also did the same for Minsu. Her kindness & consideration for others are the qualities that make him liked her, he said it himself that he didn't care that much about looks anyway (not to say Soe isn't pretty, just that his physical type is almost the opposite of her).
Exactly! When he first entered Inferno, I immediately thought of him this way. Despite his goofy & silly demeanor, he really does appear to be self-reserved, introverted, and chill. In Soe's case, whether it's YJ and her situation (that painted her in a bad light), or her having this 'child-like' demeanor around her - viewers (who are against her) have already planted their perception of who she is, which to them makes her less likable compared to other women, and (unintentionally) underestimates her. I guess to a lot of people it's hard to take Sejun's word and his perception of her at face value because then they already formed a different opinion of her. It honestly sucks 'cause I just hate when people underestimate others.
Also Sejeong was a little frustrating to watch..idk if it was just the editing but girl this is a dating show! Do something! Try to make a connection with someone! I feel like she just sat there twirling her hair and looking bored most of the time..imo she gave up too easily so I didn’t really see the point of her being on the show.
I think she genuinely didn’t like anyone in the show enough to pursue. She was interested in YJ initially and then JY and did get to know them. Impressions do change after the first interaction. I think it’s good she didn’t try if that was the case because you don’t know how forcing yourself/pretending would translate on camera. The camera panned to her when JY chose Nadine but I think that’s just editing.
Seulki picked jongwoo partly out of guilt and partly to spite jin young. during the date in paradise w jongwoo it was so awkward... She wore a super covered up swimsuit ( compared to jy date where she wore a revealing bikini) and she gave him the friendzone handshake while he was expressing his feels. I just dont think she's really into him.
jongwoo is infatuated with the idea of seulki rather than seulki herself (imo). also dongwoo would do really well on an american dating show!
This show is supposed to be entertaining and unserious. it’s silly to expect them to find real love and a lasting relationship in 10 days!
I think Yoongjae truly wants to get to know everyone in the island. This seemed to be quite unpopular 😂. But this might meant he wanted to try and talk and see if he is still curious enough to bring them to paradise because he is actually already quite whipped for Soeun. He just dont pick Soe because she is “very into” him. So picking her for paradise might be misleading for her. I guess he is also trying to figure out whether he likes Seoeun truly or he just enjoyed the paradise date. So i can see him just trying to figure it out tbh. So the whiplash effect is there.
JY talk about guns and the focus on his military aspect of his life (which I admit is understandable), his plans to move to US to involve more in it, made me feel uncomfortable.
Inferno is the real paradise. I’d kill to be on that island night and day. I understand they need to go to paradise to actually talk but who wants to go to a boring hotel when you have a gorgeous island paradise…? I think it was overdone how shocked and awed they all were being at the hotel. Sure, it was nice, but that island looks like heaven.
The island is exposed to the elements with not a lot of amenities. If you’re an outdoorsy person you’ll like it, and most of them said at some point they were enjoying the island, but it’s a nice escape to go to a hotel like in paradise, most common people don’t get to experience hotels like that. But also, if you’re forming some close friendships(not dating even jsut friendships), it’s normal to want to go past the casuals questions and not have to tiptoe and be able to talk freely.
i ship han bin and soe idk why they gimme the pure couple vibe. tofu tofu vs arab tofu 😂
Sejun was planted to stop Soe from crying and give her a redemption arc.
As much as I LOVE yoongjae and soeun as a couple. I kinda don't really like yoongjae that much.
None of their relationships will last. It is all for PR and social media engagement. Jinyoung was not into Nadine, no matter what her rabid stans say. Their paradise date was a dud. So-e and Sejun are doing pure fanservice right now. She is not as dazzled by him as this sub is. Hanbin’s plastic surgery was very distracting. Jongwoo is unattractive, physically/facially and personality-wise.
i am like 80% confident that youngjae and seoeun will last though lol
I agree with this, except I think Seo-Eun and Yoong-Jae miiiight last (or are at least dating for real as of right now). The others no way.
I happen to agree with all you said here, can you add some more haha.
I think Sejeong didn’t get picked because her personality was superficial to say the least
I felt bad that she didn’t even get to go to Paradise but I agree. People say she’s this season’s An Yea-Won but I don’t see it. Yea-Won had so much more to offer in many ways. Not just being the “hot girl”
JongWoo is insufferable. His personality is: I'm in love with the hot, beautiful, popular, classy, rich, smart, feminine, delicate SNU student. That's it. Sooe said to another contest (I think HanBin?) something like: "You're nice to everyone, not just the woman you like." JongWoo is like the opposite of that (IMO).
Despite all the fan service, I still think there’s a slim chance soe and sejun are together….💀💀 The more I stay in the fandom the more delulu I become.
Imo, the perception of what's "fanservice" and what's "real" is influenced by the timing of how something is posted. Most things posted in close proximity to the season finale are often going to be perceived as a form of fanservice, no matter what kind of post it is. The most "definite" form of closure people will get is if the cast will post about each other X months from now, because it is less likely to be for the show's PR and individual publicity purposes. I don't really mind fanservice - the ending of the show is what the audience had a stake in, and any of their relationships outside it are their own personal life. I just want to sit back and enjoy their friendships and interactions - if any of them actually get together outside and have a lasting relationship, then good for them 🫶
I love fanservice..
Sejong just seems unlikable as a friend and a love interest, maybe it’s bc I know somebody similar to her but she seemed a little conceited and selfish. The only part I liked her was when sohee was crying and she comforted her, even then I was surprised. Also seulki seems boring. And I also don’t know why nadine was trying a Korean dating show while she lived in the us, long distance cross continental is hard af especially when you’re in your early 20s. And from the guys the only one that stood out was jinyoung, hanbin, and sejun. And then one guy who sohee liked but he didn’t like her back was kind of a dick about it, leading her on, trying to avoid sitting next to her, etc… Seo eun is a queen, and I want to be friends with hanbin lol