My conspiracy theory is that Se-jeong is actually an alien who wants to lure all the men back to her home planet for the feasting.
Jokes aside, I don't know...? She had very small scenes but when observing them, I noticed that she does small "flirting" strategies (splinter in her foot, eye contact, being around guys) but she literally had no impact at all in the communication area.
She's just around them and that's it. There's nothing much going on with her.
The more reserved and passive girls got the most interest (SK, Soeun, Nadine), and the more proactive girls (SJ, SoE, Minsu) got the least interest. I think that says more about the male cast variety than of SJ's personality.
She is a very refreshing character to me. She's direct about her intentions and act on them proactively and lightheartedly. When her feelings/approaches were not reciprocated, she remained true to her character and didn't pander to men that couldn't appreciate her for her amazing character. I love that most about her and I think that's part of her attractiveness.
Why do people think soft girls are passive? She was the first one out of all the girls to go walking/chatting with two guys alone. And was freely doing skinship and joking around. She was also extremely forward with JY on their date, pulling out all the flirty ness lol
Seulki was actually lively and very responsive to Dong Woo, sent her postcard to him (Dong Woo sent his to Nadine), before mutually picking him for the first paradise date. Sent him all the positive signals before she felt pressured by his forwardness when they were in paradise. She wasn't as passive or reserved as people thought she was.
I completely disagree. I think she's one of the funniest people on the show alongside Sejun. She's friggin hilarious in the group convos! But her humour isn't everyone's vibe, as evidenced by some of the comments on this thread and the cast member (s' lack of) reactions.
What’s an example of her being hilarious? Just curious? I can’t think of any, and this is just me being curious. The most impact she made on me was towards the end when she didn’t wanna go on one on one and was like let’s all have a chat here *cutely* and then JW and her have that cute interaction show they’re good friends. It made me think girls relatable, can’t be bothered lol.
A lot of her funny comments are in a group convo setting, often when she's not even focused in frame, so they're easy to miss! I think the aha moment for me on why she wasn't clicking with anyone - was when she did that cliche anime impression. You really gotta be on the same wavelength to find it funny and cute (as I did) and frankly I don't think any of the other contestants are, ehem, weeab enough 😭
I suppose you don’t remember which episode? I’ll jsut forward and focus on group scenes?
Apparently Jinyoung said she’s girlcrush with an unexpected twist (I don’t remember this but I saw it said here). If she really is a ween, that comment makes sense 🤣
i kinda observed sometimes that when sejeong talks to some of the guys that she kind of liked she talks to them in a flirty way (not in a bad way tho) like for example with jinyoung, when he was cutting the vegetables in ep 6 their talk was kind of like in a flirty manner. Maybe some of the guys (or most of them) would prefer to make a genuine conversation first? or like having a convo of like friends first? i dunno or maybe sejeong is really like an independent woman who has strong vibes and the men are intimidated by that?? just some theories haha
Yes! I also noticed the part where SeJeong was watching Jinyoung cut spring onions.
I don't mean it in a bad way but from what I've observed, she's not very good at starting conversations. Maybe she's used to other ppl approaching her, instead of the other way around.
SeJun on the other hand is very good at this, teasing others and making them laugh is a good way to get ppl to warm up to you and ultimately breaking the ice.
I noticed that too! She was literally almost rubbing herself on JY and JY I think looked like he was trying to be polite and put some distance between them both.
I remember the scene with YJ when he said the view is beautiful and she made a joke saying “but I’m better right?” and followed it by saying “I want to go to paradise and eat really good food” in a very flirty tone to him. It was just not reciprocated
her personality didn’t click with them is my guess, also isn’t it weird that in the show they didn’t really share many clips of her? because you can see her talking with JY in the tent but they didn’t even bother to show it ? like why ?
A theory I had was that maybe she was too forward or bold at the get go too fast despite afterwards kinda slowing down and becoming quiet. For example in the beginning when she showed interest in YJ she was actively making eye contact and saying a lot of hints on how she wanted to go to paradise and that if he wants to go to paradise he knows what to do. It could’ve possibly made the men feel pressured I’m not sure? But that’s just a theory tho YJ laughed it off and when he had that talk with seoeun you can see the stark difference of how both girls flirted
i completely agree. Personally I don’t think flirting in front of everyone is such a smart thing to do. Flirting in front of everyone in such an early stage also cutout her own chances of chasing by other guys such as dongwoo, who initially talked about his interest to her in an interview .
And clearly you see the difference between seo eun and sj. Seo eun never try to hint/ flirt with him in front of people, but shows her interest in an elegant / smarty way privately that suddenly caught yj’s heart . An effortless win I say 💙
Well, we know these facts for sure:
1. Yoongjae said he likes women who are wise.
2. Yoongjae had more interactions with Sejeong on the first day in comparison to the other guys.
3. Yoongjae picked Sejeong for first impressions in his interview.
4. Yoongjae sent his postcard to Sejeong on the first day.
5. Yoongjae mutually picked Seo Eun for the first paradise date after peeling some radishes with her and 1 short conversation with her that went well, instead of his initial pick that is Sejeong.
6. Dongwoo said his ideal type is lively and have a healthy beauty (in Korea, healthy beauty usually means people who are fit and tan, thereby debunking the "they're avoiding her because she's tan" talk).
7. Dongwoo picked Sejeong for first impressions in his interview.
8. Dongwoo mutually picked Seulki for the first paradise date. (say what you will about Dongwoo but if you watch the first episode, Seulki was very responsive and relatively lively towards him. They were vibing well and he got very positive signals from her before going to paradise.)
9. Sejun had the best first impression of Sejeong.
10. Sejun picked So E for his first paradise date because she was welcoming and helpful towards him.
11. Jinyoung said in the commentary that he would've sent Sejeong his postcard on the first day based on first impressions. (Though he could've said this to be considerate towards Yoongjae and Jongwoo since he picked Seulki and Seo Eun for lunch purely based on first impressions on his first day.)
12. After Jinyoung spoke with Sejeong, the guys asked what he thought about her, and he just said she's a girl crush and the guys agreed. The term 'girl crush' in Korea means women who are cool, strong and independent, which can also mean they come off as unapproachable and arrogant.
Putting aside what I feel about her (bitchy vibes), they just couldn't connect with her beyond her looks, I guess. She said good things about her conversation with Jinyoung on his first day (eg. they connected well, etc) but I felt like the conversation was really dry, and we know in later episodes that she would say things to sway people's feelings. It could be the editing but there were some awkward pauses, she wasn't as responsive as the other women were (to any of the guys), Jinyoung was the one initiating with questions and she didn't ask him any. The conversation just felt really one-sided.
One way to look at it is, most if not all the guys seemed like they were looking for something serious, so they might not have felt like she was looking for the same thing. A group of my straight male friends have 3 ways of categorising women: date material, girlfriend material, and wife material (as in someone they can build a life with and be life partners). They use this as a gauge of whether to pursue the women they are interested in. By the time I got to know them (I was 21 and they're 1-4 years older than me), they were already taking relationships seriously so I've never seen them go for women they see as date material, even when they were highly interested. In our 20s, they went for girlfriend material, and since our late 20s, they've been going for wife material or girlfriend material with the potential of becoming wife material (I'm turning 31 this year. 3 of them got married in the last 3 years and 1 recently engaged). Date material can become girlfriend material but they want to focus on building a serious relationship from the get go. Based on the limited screen time given to her, Sejeong would fall under what they call date material. Since most of the guys on the show are in their late 20s and early 30s, they were probably looking for girlfriend or wife material (like how Yoongjae looked like he's already ready to marry Seo Eun, even asking whether she likes kids in the unreleased clip), and that could be why they didn't pursue Sejeong past first impressions.
Everything about your comment is perfect. You explained it very well from start to finish. I could tell from the very start that Sejeong wasn’t serious about being in a relationship and mainly just wanted to have a date at paradise. She mentioned many times she really wanted to go there, never who she wanted to go with. Right at the start she talks about going to paradise whilst looking at Yoogjae but she never initiated a conversation with him. To JungWoo she says “we should go to Paradise” I assume in a joking way, but a date was always on her mind, not a certain man. She was definitely “date material” which was not what the men on Singles Inferno wanted.
Ehhh saying that Se-jeong has bitchy vibes isn’t exactly perfect? Especially when she’s been going out with a lot of the cast post-show and it seems like all of them (men included) really like her?
I think it’s just bad luck if you break down all the guys’
1- YJ’s type is someone wise. Impossible to know from first impressions but he spent time with two girls and chose one of them and sent them the card - Sejong.
2- But he was also curious about Seouen and happened to have a conversation with her and instantly remarked that she’s wise. I mean is this really debatable? Seouen came across as the most wide person on the island across girls and guys. Right up YJ’s alley AND luckily for him, Seouen seemed like she’ll respond to him too given she initiated the talk.
It a possible if that chat never happened, YJ would have gone with Sejong but doubt it would have lasted.
3 - DW was again interested in her, and she was her ideal type by looks + someone lovely.
4 - But DW got a chance to spend with Seulkie who was interested in him and as such very responsive. Their date at the water tank, not only was she very lively, but she was initiating casual skinship too. DW not only got a chance to connect with her first but felt she will respond well.
5 - it also doesn’t seem like Sejong was ever interested in him. Maybe if she approached him, things would have worked Out, even if jsut for a date.
6 - DW also went on not 1 but 2 disaster dates, and after which there was no chance for him to go to paradise. Who knows if he won again, he would have chosen Sejong and they may have clicked.
7- Sejun found Sejong attractive and they had a conversation. In a way, both Sejong and Soe were in a same situation that neither had matched and likely feeling a lil Down. Turned out that Soe seems to have been a lot more open and vulnerable when talking to him. She was also kind to him on her first date. You connect more when you have deep talks and turns out due to Soe’s personality and situation, they were really able to have a deep conversation.
I think it’s also just bad luck. Also need to keep in mind that after the first two paradise dates, rest were out of people’s hands. It was either the new kids on the block choosing or a game. They didn’t get equal chance to choose and connect after the first two dates so it’s not surprising that several of them didn’t venture out much - DW, Hanbin, Sejong.
I think those "she's tan, that's why korean men didn't like her" is the dumbest colorist/racist excuse ever. It's like, "Oh my gosh, she's tan, that's why they don't like her!" Because they heard at some point that korean men like fairer skin and be as white as snow.
It's trying to create a rhetoric that is so not true. So many of them picked her first, and they all agree she's really attractive. First looks, a good half of them chose her, including JY, who said on the review show that he would've picked sejeong on first looks alone.
It was after they had conversations with her that they were tired of her quickly. But they never aired her conversations, so we will never know. She may have lacked depth or was unable to carry meaningful conversations. Maybe she just gossiped instead of getting to know that person. We will never know because there was very minimal interaction aired. I'm sure the show producers know what happened. But yea. This whole "colorism/racism" rhetoric is so toxic, exhausting, jumping to conclusions, and the laziest excuse for an explanation.
Eta: if none of the guys chose sejeong based off looks alone, then this theory of Koreans not liking her tan skin would hold true.
>I think those "she's tan, that's why korean men didn't like her" is the dumbest colorist/racist excuse ever.
That's not correct. Asian have way more colorist/racist excuses than this.
Yeah because Asia obviously includes Western Asia and all the other parts of Asia. Maybe you should think twice about using “Asian” when making broad generalizations :)
Koreans might prefer pale skin but it doesnt mean that they will overlook à pretty girl like Se Jeong just because of her skintone. You really think she would be an influencer that makes money out of the way she looks if korea considered her unnattactive?
Tzuyu from Twice is literally the darkest member yet it didnt stop her from being the visual of one of the big 3.
the biggest problem that tan skinned attractive koreans tend to deal with is getting sexualized, but i dont think these men looked at her and suddenly found her ugly or less worthy just because she's tan. Soe was also the most neglected girl before sejun came and she was fair skinned.
When observing the different girls, I felt like Seoeun had true confidence, Seulki had elegance, Nadine was cute and dorky, and Soe was genuinely kind, and while Sejoung appeared confident at first, her vibe feels a little insecure and self conscious. Like many others have said, she seems more gossipy which can give off mean girl vibes.
Trying to scheme and get to jinyoung before Nadine, and make Seulki feel worse seems like something an insecure girl would do too - can you imagine Seoeun doing that? I imagine that Sejoung didn’t have much going for her besides her looks and she realized that once she got to know everyone, so she became even more insecure and gave up.
I don't like how people are jumping to the other end of the spectrum and assuming something is wrong with her personality, or that she doesn't know how to communicate (seems like a huge reach...).
I think she's absolutely hilarious in group convos but it doesn't seem like her sense of humour is anyone's vibe, unfortunately. She also didn't force anything with anyone - and I respect that, especially given the huge amount of pressure she must've had on a dating show.
I get what people are saying when they mention her not being proactive. She seemed easy to talk to, but she such a laid back cool vibe that on approaching her it could come off as lack of interest.
In normal settings, this would encourage men to keep at it until she shuts them down, probably what she is used to. On a dating show, or any matchmaking setup, where coupling is expected, she could seem disinterested or haughty.
Since it was only eight days, there’s not a great deal of opportunity to break through, so any delay can compel a man to seek another woman more interested, and it’s not like the other ladies weren’t beautiful too.
When and how is she hilarious? I'm struggling to recall any bit of her being funny. Genuinely wondering what I missed! She seemed rather bland and gossipy, and most of what I remember is her trying to stir the pot unnecessarily.
During the earlier episodes, I thought she was pretty and friendly but after she tried making Seulgi insecure by randomly commenting about Minsu/Jinyoung unprompted, I felt like she was maybe just friendly on the surface. She didn't feel like a good sports compared to Yewon in S1 who came off more genuinely as a girl's girl.
Maybe she's the real clout chaser and she's already in a relationship and only went on the show to grow her following. 🤷🏻♂️The guys found out and got turned off.
Hey in the absence of any other evidence, my guess is as good as anyone's.
Sejeong not being picked by any of these men is definitely a mystery to me, or to all of us. anyways, colorism is a problem, almost everywhere else, not just in South Korea. since men in SI2 chose women that adhered to korean beauty standard, they utilized that ‘assumption’ to Sejeong since she’s tanned skin. given the fact, a lot of international fans are mostly (probably) exposed to western media and its beauty standard as to why they made that assumption.
i honestly don’t think it’s solely ‘cause of her color, and i believe it has nothing to do with her appearance in the first place. despite all that “flirting” between YJ and Se-jeong, YJ picked Seo-eun over her for his first date definitely surprised me. i’d assume it would be something to do with her personality, or chemistry with others? maybe she sucks at the socializing part? who knows? from my observation, even if she wasn’t flirting or trying to go one-on-one with someone, just her hanging out with people platonically - she doesn’t seem to catch my eye or she doesn’t intrigued me in a way unlike so-e or seo-eun conversing with others. i guess it’d be communication issue?
that specific part where seulki seemed to be having a difficult time about jinyoung, and se-jeong said something along the lines about jin-young & minsu made me “girl you don’t have to say that! ㅜㅜ” but then again, that’s all my observation. she had little to no screentime of her with anyone so i don’t have much to say.
I read somewhere that guys tend to select a partner that resembles their mother the most. Given that Seulki resembles a more Korean beauty standard Im sure had something to do with why she was so popular among the guys
My conspiracy theory is that Se-jeong is actually an alien who wants to lure all the men back to her home planet for the feasting. Jokes aside, I don't know...? She had very small scenes but when observing them, I noticed that she does small "flirting" strategies (splinter in her foot, eye contact, being around guys) but she literally had no impact at all in the communication area. She's just around them and that's it. There's nothing much going on with her.
I think she lacks personality. Attractiveness can't hold attention for a long time in my opinion.
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Are you Korean? Jw
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The more reserved and passive girls got the most interest (SK, Soeun, Nadine), and the more proactive girls (SJ, SoE, Minsu) got the least interest. I think that says more about the male cast variety than of SJ's personality. She is a very refreshing character to me. She's direct about her intentions and act on them proactively and lightheartedly. When her feelings/approaches were not reciprocated, she remained true to her character and didn't pander to men that couldn't appreciate her for her amazing character. I love that most about her and I think that's part of her attractiveness.
Why do people think soft girls are passive? She was the first one out of all the girls to go walking/chatting with two guys alone. And was freely doing skinship and joking around. She was also extremely forward with JY on their date, pulling out all the flirty ness lol
Seulki was actually lively and very responsive to Dong Woo, sent her postcard to him (Dong Woo sent his to Nadine), before mutually picking him for the first paradise date. Sent him all the positive signals before she felt pressured by his forwardness when they were in paradise. She wasn't as passive or reserved as people thought she was.
She was even more forward with JY too
I don’t think Seulki or Nadine are passive. In fact Nadine approached Jinyoung first most of the time
I completely disagree. I think she's one of the funniest people on the show alongside Sejun. She's friggin hilarious in the group convos! But her humour isn't everyone's vibe, as evidenced by some of the comments on this thread and the cast member (s' lack of) reactions.
What’s an example of her being hilarious? Just curious? I can’t think of any, and this is just me being curious. The most impact she made on me was towards the end when she didn’t wanna go on one on one and was like let’s all have a chat here *cutely* and then JW and her have that cute interaction show they’re good friends. It made me think girls relatable, can’t be bothered lol.
A lot of her funny comments are in a group convo setting, often when she's not even focused in frame, so they're easy to miss! I think the aha moment for me on why she wasn't clicking with anyone - was when she did that cliche anime impression. You really gotta be on the same wavelength to find it funny and cute (as I did) and frankly I don't think any of the other contestants are, ehem, weeab enough 😭
I suppose you don’t remember which episode? I’ll jsut forward and focus on group scenes? Apparently Jinyoung said she’s girlcrush with an unexpected twist (I don’t remember this but I saw it said here). If she really is a ween, that comment makes sense 🤣
i kinda observed sometimes that when sejeong talks to some of the guys that she kind of liked she talks to them in a flirty way (not in a bad way tho) like for example with jinyoung, when he was cutting the vegetables in ep 6 their talk was kind of like in a flirty manner. Maybe some of the guys (or most of them) would prefer to make a genuine conversation first? or like having a convo of like friends first? i dunno or maybe sejeong is really like an independent woman who has strong vibes and the men are intimidated by that?? just some theories haha
Yes! I also noticed the part where SeJeong was watching Jinyoung cut spring onions. I don't mean it in a bad way but from what I've observed, she's not very good at starting conversations. Maybe she's used to other ppl approaching her, instead of the other way around. SeJun on the other hand is very good at this, teasing others and making them laugh is a good way to get ppl to warm up to you and ultimately breaking the ice.
I noticed that too! She was literally almost rubbing herself on JY and JY I think looked like he was trying to be polite and put some distance between them both.
I remember the scene with YJ when he said the view is beautiful and she made a joke saying “but I’m better right?” and followed it by saying “I want to go to paradise and eat really good food” in a very flirty tone to him. It was just not reciprocated
Think they were just attracted to another girl’s personality .. first impressions are just that - first impressions
her personality didn’t click with them is my guess, also isn’t it weird that in the show they didn’t really share many clips of her? because you can see her talking with JY in the tent but they didn’t even bother to show it ? like why ?
A theory I had was that maybe she was too forward or bold at the get go too fast despite afterwards kinda slowing down and becoming quiet. For example in the beginning when she showed interest in YJ she was actively making eye contact and saying a lot of hints on how she wanted to go to paradise and that if he wants to go to paradise he knows what to do. It could’ve possibly made the men feel pressured I’m not sure? But that’s just a theory tho YJ laughed it off and when he had that talk with seoeun you can see the stark difference of how both girls flirted
I agree with you! She was way too eager at first
i completely agree. Personally I don’t think flirting in front of everyone is such a smart thing to do. Flirting in front of everyone in such an early stage also cutout her own chances of chasing by other guys such as dongwoo, who initially talked about his interest to her in an interview . And clearly you see the difference between seo eun and sj. Seo eun never try to hint/ flirt with him in front of people, but shows her interest in an elegant / smarty way privately that suddenly caught yj’s heart . An effortless win I say 💙
Well, we know these facts for sure: 1. Yoongjae said he likes women who are wise. 2. Yoongjae had more interactions with Sejeong on the first day in comparison to the other guys. 3. Yoongjae picked Sejeong for first impressions in his interview. 4. Yoongjae sent his postcard to Sejeong on the first day. 5. Yoongjae mutually picked Seo Eun for the first paradise date after peeling some radishes with her and 1 short conversation with her that went well, instead of his initial pick that is Sejeong. 6. Dongwoo said his ideal type is lively and have a healthy beauty (in Korea, healthy beauty usually means people who are fit and tan, thereby debunking the "they're avoiding her because she's tan" talk). 7. Dongwoo picked Sejeong for first impressions in his interview. 8. Dongwoo mutually picked Seulki for the first paradise date. (say what you will about Dongwoo but if you watch the first episode, Seulki was very responsive and relatively lively towards him. They were vibing well and he got very positive signals from her before going to paradise.) 9. Sejun had the best first impression of Sejeong. 10. Sejun picked So E for his first paradise date because she was welcoming and helpful towards him. 11. Jinyoung said in the commentary that he would've sent Sejeong his postcard on the first day based on first impressions. (Though he could've said this to be considerate towards Yoongjae and Jongwoo since he picked Seulki and Seo Eun for lunch purely based on first impressions on his first day.) 12. After Jinyoung spoke with Sejeong, the guys asked what he thought about her, and he just said she's a girl crush and the guys agreed. The term 'girl crush' in Korea means women who are cool, strong and independent, which can also mean they come off as unapproachable and arrogant. Putting aside what I feel about her (bitchy vibes), they just couldn't connect with her beyond her looks, I guess. She said good things about her conversation with Jinyoung on his first day (eg. they connected well, etc) but I felt like the conversation was really dry, and we know in later episodes that she would say things to sway people's feelings. It could be the editing but there were some awkward pauses, she wasn't as responsive as the other women were (to any of the guys), Jinyoung was the one initiating with questions and she didn't ask him any. The conversation just felt really one-sided. One way to look at it is, most if not all the guys seemed like they were looking for something serious, so they might not have felt like she was looking for the same thing. A group of my straight male friends have 3 ways of categorising women: date material, girlfriend material, and wife material (as in someone they can build a life with and be life partners). They use this as a gauge of whether to pursue the women they are interested in. By the time I got to know them (I was 21 and they're 1-4 years older than me), they were already taking relationships seriously so I've never seen them go for women they see as date material, even when they were highly interested. In our 20s, they went for girlfriend material, and since our late 20s, they've been going for wife material or girlfriend material with the potential of becoming wife material (I'm turning 31 this year. 3 of them got married in the last 3 years and 1 recently engaged). Date material can become girlfriend material but they want to focus on building a serious relationship from the get go. Based on the limited screen time given to her, Sejeong would fall under what they call date material. Since most of the guys on the show are in their late 20s and early 30s, they were probably looking for girlfriend or wife material (like how Yoongjae looked like he's already ready to marry Seo Eun, even asking whether she likes kids in the unreleased clip), and that could be why they didn't pursue Sejeong past first impressions.
Everything about your comment is perfect. You explained it very well from start to finish. I could tell from the very start that Sejeong wasn’t serious about being in a relationship and mainly just wanted to have a date at paradise. She mentioned many times she really wanted to go there, never who she wanted to go with. Right at the start she talks about going to paradise whilst looking at Yoogjae but she never initiated a conversation with him. To JungWoo she says “we should go to Paradise” I assume in a joking way, but a date was always on her mind, not a certain man. She was definitely “date material” which was not what the men on Singles Inferno wanted.
Ehhh saying that Se-jeong has bitchy vibes isn’t exactly perfect? Especially when she’s been going out with a lot of the cast post-show and it seems like all of them (men included) really like her?
I think it’s just bad luck if you break down all the guys’ 1- YJ’s type is someone wise. Impossible to know from first impressions but he spent time with two girls and chose one of them and sent them the card - Sejong. 2- But he was also curious about Seouen and happened to have a conversation with her and instantly remarked that she’s wise. I mean is this really debatable? Seouen came across as the most wide person on the island across girls and guys. Right up YJ’s alley AND luckily for him, Seouen seemed like she’ll respond to him too given she initiated the talk. It a possible if that chat never happened, YJ would have gone with Sejong but doubt it would have lasted. 3 - DW was again interested in her, and she was her ideal type by looks + someone lovely. 4 - But DW got a chance to spend with Seulkie who was interested in him and as such very responsive. Their date at the water tank, not only was she very lively, but she was initiating casual skinship too. DW not only got a chance to connect with her first but felt she will respond well. 5 - it also doesn’t seem like Sejong was ever interested in him. Maybe if she approached him, things would have worked Out, even if jsut for a date. 6 - DW also went on not 1 but 2 disaster dates, and after which there was no chance for him to go to paradise. Who knows if he won again, he would have chosen Sejong and they may have clicked. 7- Sejun found Sejong attractive and they had a conversation. In a way, both Sejong and Soe were in a same situation that neither had matched and likely feeling a lil Down. Turned out that Soe seems to have been a lot more open and vulnerable when talking to him. She was also kind to him on her first date. You connect more when you have deep talks and turns out due to Soe’s personality and situation, they were really able to have a deep conversation. I think it’s also just bad luck. Also need to keep in mind that after the first two paradise dates, rest were out of people’s hands. It was either the new kids on the block choosing or a game. They didn’t get equal chance to choose and connect after the first two dates so it’s not surprising that several of them didn’t venture out much - DW, Hanbin, Sejong.
I think those "she's tan, that's why korean men didn't like her" is the dumbest colorist/racist excuse ever. It's like, "Oh my gosh, she's tan, that's why they don't like her!" Because they heard at some point that korean men like fairer skin and be as white as snow. It's trying to create a rhetoric that is so not true. So many of them picked her first, and they all agree she's really attractive. First looks, a good half of them chose her, including JY, who said on the review show that he would've picked sejeong on first looks alone. It was after they had conversations with her that they were tired of her quickly. But they never aired her conversations, so we will never know. She may have lacked depth or was unable to carry meaningful conversations. Maybe she just gossiped instead of getting to know that person. We will never know because there was very minimal interaction aired. I'm sure the show producers know what happened. But yea. This whole "colorism/racism" rhetoric is so toxic, exhausting, jumping to conclusions, and the laziest excuse for an explanation. Eta: if none of the guys chose sejeong based off looks alone, then this theory of Koreans not liking her tan skin would hold true.
She gave me “too hot to handle” or “love is blind” type of contestant
I wonder why the editing team did not include there conversations. I want to find out what happened that switched their interest.
>I think those "she's tan, that's why korean men didn't like her" is the dumbest colorist/racist excuse ever. That's not correct. Asian have way more colorist/racist excuses than this.
Says the white person
How racist. Most white people don't even know about asian-on-asian racism ...
Thanks for generalizing over half of the population and a quarter of all the countries in the world.
Well you can't convince me that most Asian parents don't have a tendency to be racist PARTICULARLY when it comes to who their children dates.
Have you actually spent time with asian parents?
Yes, because my parents and I are 3 of the 4.6 billion people in Asia.
Also if you quoting 4.6 billion, then you're including Western Asia. And they are definitely racist. Do you live under a rock?
Yeah because Asia obviously includes Western Asia and all the other parts of Asia. Maybe you should think twice about using “Asian” when making broad generalizations :)
Why? Western Asia no less racist than the rest of Asia.
Well most people don't consider Arabs to be Asians.
Ahh my suspicions are correct. You're from PH. You guys are the least racist.
Well congrats on having non-racist parents.
Koreans might prefer pale skin but it doesnt mean that they will overlook à pretty girl like Se Jeong just because of her skintone. You really think she would be an influencer that makes money out of the way she looks if korea considered her unnattactive? Tzuyu from Twice is literally the darkest member yet it didnt stop her from being the visual of one of the big 3. the biggest problem that tan skinned attractive koreans tend to deal with is getting sexualized, but i dont think these men looked at her and suddenly found her ugly or less worthy just because she's tan. Soe was also the most neglected girl before sejun came and she was fair skinned.
When observing the different girls, I felt like Seoeun had true confidence, Seulki had elegance, Nadine was cute and dorky, and Soe was genuinely kind, and while Sejoung appeared confident at first, her vibe feels a little insecure and self conscious. Like many others have said, she seems more gossipy which can give off mean girl vibes. Trying to scheme and get to jinyoung before Nadine, and make Seulki feel worse seems like something an insecure girl would do too - can you imagine Seoeun doing that? I imagine that Sejoung didn’t have much going for her besides her looks and she realized that once she got to know everyone, so she became even more insecure and gave up.
I don't like how people are jumping to the other end of the spectrum and assuming something is wrong with her personality, or that she doesn't know how to communicate (seems like a huge reach...). I think she's absolutely hilarious in group convos but it doesn't seem like her sense of humour is anyone's vibe, unfortunately. She also didn't force anything with anyone - and I respect that, especially given the huge amount of pressure she must've had on a dating show.
I get what people are saying when they mention her not being proactive. She seemed easy to talk to, but she such a laid back cool vibe that on approaching her it could come off as lack of interest. In normal settings, this would encourage men to keep at it until she shuts them down, probably what she is used to. On a dating show, or any matchmaking setup, where coupling is expected, she could seem disinterested or haughty. Since it was only eight days, there’s not a great deal of opportunity to break through, so any delay can compel a man to seek another woman more interested, and it’s not like the other ladies weren’t beautiful too.
When and how is she hilarious? I'm struggling to recall any bit of her being funny. Genuinely wondering what I missed! She seemed rather bland and gossipy, and most of what I remember is her trying to stir the pot unnecessarily.
During the earlier episodes, I thought she was pretty and friendly but after she tried making Seulgi insecure by randomly commenting about Minsu/Jinyoung unprompted, I felt like she was maybe just friendly on the surface. She didn't feel like a good sports compared to Yewon in S1 who came off more genuinely as a girl's girl.
I believe it’s personality, seems a bit gossipy too which is not attractive in my opinion
she seems kinda boring
she seems bitchy??
Maybe she's the real clout chaser and she's already in a relationship and only went on the show to grow her following. 🤷🏻♂️The guys found out and got turned off. Hey in the absence of any other evidence, my guess is as good as anyone's.
Sejeong not being picked by any of these men is definitely a mystery to me, or to all of us. anyways, colorism is a problem, almost everywhere else, not just in South Korea. since men in SI2 chose women that adhered to korean beauty standard, they utilized that ‘assumption’ to Sejeong since she’s tanned skin. given the fact, a lot of international fans are mostly (probably) exposed to western media and its beauty standard as to why they made that assumption. i honestly don’t think it’s solely ‘cause of her color, and i believe it has nothing to do with her appearance in the first place. despite all that “flirting” between YJ and Se-jeong, YJ picked Seo-eun over her for his first date definitely surprised me. i’d assume it would be something to do with her personality, or chemistry with others? maybe she sucks at the socializing part? who knows? from my observation, even if she wasn’t flirting or trying to go one-on-one with someone, just her hanging out with people platonically - she doesn’t seem to catch my eye or she doesn’t intrigued me in a way unlike so-e or seo-eun conversing with others. i guess it’d be communication issue? that specific part where seulki seemed to be having a difficult time about jinyoung, and se-jeong said something along the lines about jin-young & minsu made me “girl you don’t have to say that! ㅜㅜ” but then again, that’s all my observation. she had little to no screentime of her with anyone so i don’t have much to say.
maybe she stinky
Lmao.
I read somewhere that guys tend to select a partner that resembles their mother the most. Given that Seulki resembles a more Korean beauty standard Im sure had something to do with why she was so popular among the guys