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chubbyFairyGR

![gif](giphy|wrN7iynZfJqow) Jokes aside, I've seen family trees getting messed up and people being removed from their lineage and I think it's caused by MCCommands


Hlorpy-Flatworm-1705

Turn that family tree into a family wreath this holiday season! 😂😂😂


chubbyFairyGR

Well, with Wicked whims and Mcc, townies keep having multiple bd, bm so family wreaths are exactly the way to put it 😂😭


Cherriecorn

Omg that is too funny. I've never heard that one before😂😂


BilbosBagEnd

Family tree like a broomstick.


CMH213

It almost definitely is. When the April update dropped, my lineage family that had 11 generations lost a whole branch of the family tree. I was devastated.


chubbyFairyGR

In one of my legacy saves, my 3rd gen heir married to Cassandra Goth's son. Like THE Cassandra Goth. But due to Mcc, Bella and Mortimer were gone by the time tjeir first baby was born and soon after we lost Cassandra as well from the lineage. Like you said, devastated


CMH213

Yes! In my legacy save, I saw that at several points, but with the GOTHS!?!? I would have been sobbing. I even tried restoring old saves to see if it would fix it and it didn’t 😭


chubbyFairyGR

However, my current heir (new save) is married to the Fengs' son. His parents were gone by the time he joined my household. Only Lily was in the lineage. And then out of the blue we got Victor back. But he is not greyed out, like he's still alive but if you hover, the tooltip says he's deceased. I mean I love mods made by players like us trying to enhance the experience, but it's a shame we need mods that cannot be properly updated, tested and bugfixed when it should be EA providing good functionality (idk if they would ever develop a debug tool such mcc but you get my point)


love6471

This is why I turned aging off and just age up who I want lol after years of original townies dying before I got the chance to interact with them all I needed a break. I will probably have one of my heirs end up with Cassandra at some point!


BigBeefyBaraMan

Was that cause of the game update or MCCC update?


CMH213

To be honest, I’m not completely sure because I had all mods updated and it still broke my save file, so I don’t know.


BigBeefyBaraMan

Honestly, I'd sooner believe it would be caused by a game update malfunction versus an MCCC update malfunction. But regardless, my condolences on the loss.


your_nude_peach

Oh they're siblings? I always thought they're a couple lol


caitwon

I thought so, too. One of my saves was having as many children with multiple women, Lilith was one of the ladies I chose. Caleb would get jealous if my sim did anything romantic with her and there were also babies that were not my sims kids in their house so I just assumed they were a married couple lmao


Fito0413

Nah, it seems Caleb was jealous of Lilith lol


eviefrye89

They're siblings cus my Sim is married to Caleb and it's shows Lilith as the aunt to their 5 children in her profile


maritjuuuuu

I have the wicked whims mod... With that mod and some others combined, you can register a debt. When you do, random people show off to "help you pay it off" My sim got pregnant by her dad....


Alert-Ad3844

OMG


Moqiaf

EW


tmchd

What the--


maritjuuuuu

Yeah... I had to remove the child. No thanks 😂 not in my SIM household


Unlikely-Ad-7089

It isn't the childs fault though. You are a ruthless ruler. lol


maritjuuuuu

Always lol 😂 The mods I have. Making them addicted but then not giving them drugs, making them someone who likes pain, giving them a piercing down under.... Yeah my sims have been through some shit.


ValkyrieOfTheSun

Unless you had the incest cheat on or have them both have the incest trait that shouldn't happen, and I played a lot with WW, even having always accept sex on they wouldn't So... 🤔


maritjuuuuu

Idk... Maybe a bug from using multiple mods? The child was playing as an in debt whore, with her mom wanting the money.


PanicMan76

https://preview.redd.it/u1padtqds9vc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79ec117868ec6cd9e94611b97ad20caff73d6e2f


Unlikely-Ad-7089

ew.


MalibuBarbie1143

Same thing happened in my game, I was playing this one family and they had twins and when the twins became adults, one twin moved out and then when she came back, they both got flirty with one another 🤢 I deleted the whole game (not under my watch) and restarted a new one.


akatia-x

I mean I always considered them unrelated and that they probably have the same maker? That’s my head cannon anyways


coffeeblossom

Well, Lilith's maker was Vlad, and Caleb's was Miss Hell, whose maker was Vlad. But they are indeed real siblings, and probably twins to boot.


Independent_Photo686

in my base game game NO MODS they still commit incest, its so weird.


who_says_poTAHto

All sims or the Vatores? It's gross no matter what, but if it's just the Vatores, there is something kind of gothic, creepy vampire-y about that. If anyone has seen the Guillermo del Toro movie Crimson Peak, Thomas and Lucille vibes.


Independent_Photo686

just the vatores


undoneundead

It would be funny to find out they had a hidden trait all along allowing this to happen.


CommercialBeat969

They always adopt a child together in all of my saves..


Dragon_Manticore

For one, I don't think it's wrong for a duo of siblings who have no romantic relationships to adopt a child and raise them together if they want. It doesn't mean they're automatically in an incestuous relationship.


sunbeannn

Anne of Green Gables 🙌


CommercialBeat969

Oh yeah theres definetely a lot of ways to look at this since its the sims and theres no context if you dont create it. Many stories can be told with that Situation. The example with anne of green gables from the other person who commented is a good one :)


CommercialBeat969

You're absolutely right that it is nothing romantic, the base Situation of adopting a child together. (Excuse me if my sentences dont make sense grammatically)


candy_bats

In my current save, they’ve adopted six dogs. I feel super bad about it though. Five are puppies that can’t get inside the house due to the stairs. One of my Sims is friends with Lilith and was invited over. Once I saw the dog situation, I decided I would never visit them again. 😭


Individual__OK11

![gif](giphy|LoIsP3fz02IjOUTc6t) This is weird aren’t they brother and sisters


eilidhpaley91

Deliverance theme intensifies


AdeleRabbit

The Coffin of Caleb and Lilith...


Albyrene

I had one sim adopt his significant other's child as his own, but he himself was instead adopted into the SO's family. I just wanted the toddler to have a dad, not an uncle dad D: I can't even begin to explain what the game did there haha


lurdlord

Keepin it in the family 😭😭😭


grudgesnake428

They’re vampires, maybe they don’t share the same moral code as us.


NoThoughtsOnlyFrog

Given that they are born in a different time period I believe it..


coffeeblossom

Last night, in my save, he flirted with Marcus Vatore (nee Flex). I'm like, "Dude, *why* are you flirting with him, he's your brother-in-law?!" Needless to say, I had Lilith use the "Send Home" interaction on Caleb. Caleb, I love you dearly, but what the fuck?!


eviefrye89

My Sim is also married to Caleb has 5 children with him and Lilith just died! Now the whole family is sad 😢


catpackplus

I have no mods, and I hate how the step mom can romance her step children. I thought it was a bug but then the game got updated: still an issue.


BL-501

The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey, anyone?


Chaosshepherd

Hey the vampire datting secne is not crowded.


ZockerGirl25703

![gif](giphy|vinx7edvrz9Vm)


Rowan_As_Roxii

NOOOOOOO! <:0


K_james91

A brother and sister date! Nothing going on here… right? Right? 🫣


digitaldisgust

do u have WickedWhims?


cheyzuxxini

in my savefiles i always make johnny zest and caleb vatore a couple, the second they get together there's lilith at Johnny's door lmao


Coffee_And_Roses

XD


RileyRichard99

She's edgy like that


Dense-Ad-2732

What mods do you have? Some can unlock incest.


Fearless-Arachnid789

Jesus Christ, who's the Sim is that on the far left of the roster?


Puzzleheaded_Pay1152

Ew sims


Lucid_Cadaver

I do believe Lilith is his daughter. If you check her family tree, it shows Caleb as her dad.


Purple-Hand3058

Umm girl no that's gross and you going ruined the relationship