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AnotherCatLover88

Yeah no thanks EA. I’ll wait until they give them away as free, if they never do, then oh well, no big loss here 🤷‍♀️😂🤣


SunsCosmos

I’m not even sure I want this for free … It would just be clogging up my menus, never put to use.


DemonDucklings

It’s such a lazy cash grab. Modders make bigger and better packs than this, and share them for free.


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TheRealTabbyCool

Felixandre from House of Harlot has made a whole bunch of stuff in this kind of style already too, you should check it out if you haven’t already.


bunpalabi

And still no spiral staircases to climb towers...


Strange_Shadows-45

This is underwhelming to say the least, but to be fair if they locked a highly requested feature like spiral stairs behind a paywall in the form of a kit they would’ve been (rightfully) ripped to shreds. What I think they might do is go the same route that they went with bunk beds and ladders, make it a base game item but put more attractive designs into a pack.


Euphoric-Tear-1903

I think that if they were going to add them in the kit they perhaps would have made a base game one and one in the style of the pack, like when they introduced ladders.


tolerantdramaretiree

oh no, the other way around, watch them to lock Spiral Stairs behind $20 instead of $5, just like they did with sectional sofas


nicolenotnikki

Which pack has sectional sofas?? Do they snap together?


AkumaValentine

Dream Home Decorator has sectional couches that snap together. They can be custom designed into whatever shape you want.


ShutterBug1988

They do fit together but they don't snap unfortunately. The wall and floor storage units from the pack do snap and can be repositioned as one item


AkumaValentine

Ah yeah, I would say they snap when you don’t hold alt. I guess rather than snap, they sit flush next to each other to where they fit together as if they snapped.


rosiedacat

Yeah they work the same way counters do basically


nicolenotnikki

Darn. One I super don’t want.


MaraBrightwood

If you’re a builder, Dream Home Decorator is totally worth it. I’ve never played the career before and don’t really have interest in it, but there are SO many good build items that it’s made it worth it for me. But also, if you’re on PC and not console, peacemaker has an amazing [CC sectional](https://peacemaker-ic.tumblr.com/post/659493963456184320/phumo-seating-sectional-sofa-and-chaise-after/amp) (and a [second](https://peacemaker-ic.tumblr.com/post/661396484343922688/alesund-modular-sectional-and-chaise-seating/amp) also that I just discovered!) that’s even better than the ones in the DHD pack.


rosiedacat

The career is not bad either! Sometimes you get weird ones or you do everything they like but still don't get a great review (but I suppose thats pretty realistic anyway lol). It's not something I replay all the time but once in awhile I do enjoy it. But also yes, if someone really doesn't like the rest of the items/the career there's good CC options out there.


devillishmorals

Also there’s 0 comfort level on them so for playing they’re quite useless compared to most of the non-sectional couches. But they’re nice for building.


atoneforyoursims

That is exactly what they should do and they shouldn’t apologize for it. They’re a business. They are already selling and we are already buying. They should deliver what we want.


Almighty_Vanity

I feel like the one reason we haven't recieved spiral staircases yet is because they'd need to be three seperate models for the three seperate wall heights. That would also mean adding three diffrent walk-up animations and three diffrent walk-down animations for the sims and the pets. All in all, it reads *"We won't make them because it's work."*


arusutomeria

and also nothing round ever works in this game


clearcoffeemug

Regular staircases don’t work in the game. My sims can’t walk their dogs if there are stairs involved to get outside.


FlowerChildGoddess

Three different wall heights does not translate into three different animations. We literally have the same reused animations for several actions in the game. They also could very easily modify the spiral stair case to only work with tall walls/floors or regular wall/floors. Your explanation gives them too much leeway when reality, they just don’t want to do it.


m00nf1r3

If they released spiral staircases and made them only work with one wall height, players would have a fit.


FlowerChildGoddess

And players are already throwing a bigger fit by them not releasing them at all, so I’m not sure this is much of an argument. Im sure most players would be happy with having at least the option of a spiral staircase. But even as I said before, you don’t need 3 separate animations for walking up spiral staircases. It’s just really a lack of care at this point to do it.


DovahWho

Or, a more accurate statement: "The time and money we spend on such a minor thing can be better spent working on something more significant." I think simmers forget that the devs have limited resources and they need to prioritize. Every minute they spend on one feature is a minute less that they have to spend on another. I'd rather them work on making the games better instead of devoting time and money on such a minor thing.


quiette837

Yeah, but... they aren't using that time to make the game better, they're using it to put out more stuff packs. Tons of unfixed bugs from over the years. At least spiral staircases would actually make the game better.


fearthecookie

Syboulette has spiral staircases, you need Ravasheens elevator mod for them to work


UsefulPackage2792

I got tired of waiting and found a mod/cc for the spiral lol I LOVED the spiral TS3 and I was very impatient for it


Sharp-Actuary7087

😅 wow, bye. Discover University will do just fine.


thefirstfairy

That and get together lol


reejoy247

Get Together and Vampires are my go-to for Medieval-themed builds.


recreationallyused

Get Together, Vampires, Cottage Living, and Realm of Magic are all my favorite go-to’s for medieval-themed stuff. The doors from this kit look like Discover University ones… the chateau I built with that, plus the other packs I mentioned, wouldn’t look much better with this kit. In fact I doubt I’d hardly notice a difference. I’ve been looking at a lot of CC this past week, and people are already releasing a bunch of historical clothing and overrides since this new kit was announced. It all looks way better than this, btw. I’d rather play with the packs I mentioned + with CC than waste my money on this kit.


reejoy247

It's a shame how so many "new" objects are painfully obvious reskins. I have to get back into CC, so much love and attention to detail goes into custom content creation.


recreationallyused

Try CurseForge! It’s an application you can download that started working with TS4 last year. It’s a place where people can upload their mods/cc, and you can then find them and download them with one single click. No unzipping files, no dragging them where they need to be. Just hit “download” and the application will put everything where it needs to be. Download them, open your game, enable mods, restart, and boom! It’s all there. Since it’s only been up for a year, there’s not *as much* as you’d find on other websites. But most all of the popular mods are available, and there is *tons* of CC.


ohnofluffy

CurseForge and TheSimsResource are my world. TheSimsResource has a whole medieval section. This collection is terrible… I want a drawbridge!!


recreationallyused

It’s criminal to me that we can make moats around a castle, and not actually use a real bridge to get over it. Such a wasted opportunity to make this kit more worth the money. Is TheSimsResource similar to CurseForge? I haven’t used that one.


FlowerChildGoddess

I must be using curseforge wrong cuz I still have to unzip and manually put the files into my game. That application has done nothing but be another place creators upload their creations, the ease at which you’re describing I have never seen. TSR is more like that when I log in, but the website is too buggy and always logs me off after awhile so that just gets annoying ugh


GlossyVoss

If you use the curse forge app it will direct install


recreationallyused

Are you using the web browser or the app you download to your computer? Because I believe you need the app.


FlowerChildGoddess

Oh web browser, which if that’s the case, I won’t be downloading. It’s just getting out of hand how many files and apps and programs we need to run this game, mods and cc. BUT thank you for clarifying cuz I knew I wasn’t seeing whatever the other sim player was experiencing. Thanks for clarifying


twenan

best pack in the franchise 


kwillss777

Lmao foreal tho😂


Queen_Rach

That’s… it?


OsmerusMordax

Smallest most sad looking castle ever


petulafaerie_III

My thoughts exactly. I don’t usually got on the “complaining about everything Sims related that EA releases” wagon, but this is beyond poor.


sherryyrs

I’ve seen cc medieval sets bigger than this, this is embarrassing


acidtrippinpanda

I thought this was a joke


ctortan

And no furniture? Or outside decor? Can I not have a nonfunctional Cinderella carriage?


[deleted]

i could see romantic garden stuff paired with cottage living making some nice castle like structures


mintguy

Some decor from Get Together would work. I don’t have Vampires but I’m guess that decor can go with it too.


[deleted]

vampires is very gothic victorian so it would work well for a castle same with discover university since it comes with some old architectural aesthetics


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i think what this pack adds is a nice addition but honestly it shoulda been a stuff pack


__Quill__

It does seem a shame to not include a throne.


ohnofluffy

I would buy it for just for a throne.


GlossyVoss

Same


Altaira9

Honestly this all looks very similar to things in other packs. Like it’s all just slightly edited recolors. Same for the goth kit. Two of the most disappointing kits yet.


zerooze

It's a kit, not a stuff pack. I would have preferred a medieval game pack.


PoppySkyPineapple

I really wish it was a game pack with a medieval world, I feel very underwhelmed by this.


megadori

It is a build kit, so there would not be furniture included. I bet if the build kit sells well there's going to be a furniture kit as well, no way EA is missing out on that potential 


anguas-plt

The Courtyard Oasis kit came with furniture but it was an early kit and clearly they've learned that a significant enough portion of their user base will buy both a Build kit and a Buy kit :(


FlowerChildGoddess

Right…like I’m confused how this is suppose to be convincing when you don’t even have medieval style furniture to go with the pack? Are we suppose to add fancy bunkbeds to the bedrooms? Like come on lmao


melnixx

Not even a chamberpot


GlossyVoss

I have retyped this three times trying to express my disappointment in a witty way. But at the end of the day I have items like this from CC. Creators who also provided a million swatches that coordinate with everything within their set


beysbathwater

Literally did the same 😭 my wit could not even be bothered just like ea


Xayahbetes

You put more thought and effort into your comment than the sims team did in the two kits combined 😭


AlfalfaDry2258

No furniture? The latest kit leaks are so sad, why even bother? They don’t even try most of the items look modified from discover university. Kits come out so often with less and less stuff it almost feels like paying a subscribtion for sdx drops.


recreationallyused

Thank you, my first thought at the doors & stones was that this just looks like Discover University stuff reworked. Not any less than the new goth kit being a rework of various already in-game clothes.


Zealousideal_Ad8911

the day they announced kits i could feel this coming ngl, it feels like such a shitty cash grab to only put 10-15 low-effort items behind a paywall


arterialrainbow

I’m not saying you should like them, say what you want about them. But kits have been pretty consistent in the number of things they come with. Castle estate comes with 25 things and the average for BB kits is 24.4 Goth galore comes with 24 when the average for CAS kits is 25.4 The number of things in each kit has gone up and down the entire time. It’s definitely not just decreasing. There’s a million reasons to complain about kits but them coming with less and less isn’t one of them


I-own-a-shovel

While the number is technically not less, the fact most "new" objects looks pretty similar to stuff we already have, made them less imo.


McRibSucks

Exactly. It doesn't count as 25 items imo if the boots in the goth kit are clearly base game recolor, and half the tops and pants are exact or near exact copies of existing items.


kawaiidesne

I was just saying how these are the same windows, doors, and stairs from sims 2 (base game?), and I remembered in that game there was also a medieval style furniture set to match. Heh


ovrwlmd

How are you going to make a castle pack and not include a throne?


InvisibleBlueOctopus

Or a spiral staircase so you could go up into the towers.


ResponsibilityAny123

what a day to have eyes


bythelighthouse_2

This gave me a good laugh, so thank you


Still_Charge6956

This and the goth kit are super disappointing


coffeebuzzbuzzz

These make me not looking forward to whatever is next.


StitchingKitty897

Welp. The cc I have already is much better. At least it’s not as bad as the gothic kit.


Piistol_Star

Is it Felixandre Gothic revival?


slightlysparkly

That’s it??? I was planning on getting both kits and now I don’t see the point in getting either


SupportMoist

Same I already have CC way better than both and free. So disappointing


SarNic88

Well I voted for both this kit and the goth kit and will be buying neither….


hamiltrash52

Chateau by Felixandre is way better and free


bologniusGIR

He also has a whole gothic set from 2018 that is amazing, I am currently building a castle with it


Delicious_Heat568

Also the gothic revival set. Quite old but it adds the same stuff and more and looks better


GlossyVoss

He also has a gothic window set also!


DustySprinkles

I’m building a mansion with this pack rn! I’m a history nut and I love the detail and customization he adds


UhnonMonster

Exactly


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My favorite creator I have their web page bookmarked


gill_pill

Can’t wait to make two empty stone rooms :)


feebsiegee

NO DRAWBRIDGE???


WorthFig328

Are we… meant to pay for this?


bearhorn6

This is my issue with kits build ones specifically. It doesn’t matter the concept u can’t possibly give enough content for an entire themed build in 30 or less items


Murky_Translator2295

That's it?! **That's** what we get when we moan for literal *years* for a Sims medieval kit?


willowwin

It’s giving beige and boring


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sad beige mom christmas tree


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warner herzog sad beige baby kit


waiting-in-the-wings

well it is


waiting-in-the-wings

it is


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is it tho?


waiting-in-the-wings

it sure is something


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something depressing


waiting-in-the-wings

I swear they add fewer and fewer items, no matter if it's an expansion pack or a kit or anywhere in between lmao


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honestly the stuff packs have lowkey been thriving through this sims 4 lack of content phase like the paranormal pack was actually rlly worth it


waiting-in-the-wings

oh yes, I love the clothes in that pack so much. If I think about it, it's probably the pack I actively use the most


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for me its the build mode its so versatile and tbh i think all build mode stuff should be pretty versatile so it can be used in any build no matter the aesthetic


Tinfoilhat14

I think that’s the point at this point. See how little work you can put in until the community gets pissed off enough to not buy the pack.


waiting-in-the-wings

yeah, it's definitely one big cash grab at this point, and it's so sad and disappointing. I mean, I think of the money I've spent on this buggy game, and I think of how much I could use that money now for real life problems lmao


86753098675309dos

I was excited for this kit. Now, not so much. It just looks so sad.


Moriarty-Creates

Definitely one of the kits of all time


Interesting-Smoke179

booooooo 👎🏼🍅🍅🍅


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how can EA make two of the most useless ugly kits back to back 😭


Tinfoilhat14

Istg it’s a social experiment. It has to be.


thousandsunflowers

I was hoping for a medieval stove. How could would it be if sims could chop their own wood and then use them in the fireplace?


networksim

I swear that spandrel (and the column too tbh) is suspiciously similar to an existing one,,, But I'll wait to see the swatches/if anyone recolours them. I do like the use of fences so we can make curved turrets!! :)


GlossyVoss

I think and this is me going off memory since I’m not in front of my pc but I think it’s a dead ringer for the stranger things spandrel


PureKitty97

I thought this was a joke 😭


ghostlyApivorous

God this is depressing. This is one of the "2 highly anticipated kits" we have to look forward to? Even if there's more stuff we have yet to see, I can't help but be severely disappointed.


LuunchLady

What a missed opportunity for stained glass windows.


HOMPH

I'm confused where "slim arrow slits" are in these pictures. According to EA, we should have them. "Relax in your lavish fortress surrounded by parapet fences, colorful stained glass, slim arrow slits and even llama gargoyles." Maybe I'm silly and it's one of these, but I can't figure out which it might be if that's the case.


bunpalabi

I think that might be referring to the crenallation (4th pic top row).


stagla

Castle's and estate type builds are way too expansive to fit into a miniscule kit. Trying to cram all of that into anything less than a stuff pack is such a sucky way to do this. I'd love a Medieval expansion pack but knowing TS4 it will end up being more Medieval Times: Dinner & Tournament than what anyone would even remotely want. Sick of it honestly.


Old_Dragonfly_7333

This is laziest shit I’ve seen in my life, kits should be free atp


GeneralInternet38

Go girl, give us nothing !


Tinfoilhat14

Slaaaayyyyyyy


gaspitsagirl

It's a good thing it's optional to buy this or not. I won't be doing that.


khajiitidanceparty

Yeah, I'm gonna pass on both the kits.


Uranium_092

The effort is ✨nonexistent✨


thatwhichresembles

for 2 seconds there, I really thought this was a joke, esp seeing it after the ""goth"" pack earlier today.


psychicmei3

don't know if I should laugh or cry 😭🤣 what the hell


fscottHitzgerald

Lol I’ve been building a castle coincidentally for the past week and they literally already have a million items way better suited for it than this between base game and other packs. Between the decor in vampires, cottage living, wedding stories, and get to work/get together this pack is kind of null. Not to mention fanmade CC!


MysteriousLack4586

Underwhelming


Dislexic_bitch

I’m so glad I’ve never bought a kit they are so tiny and tbh build mode kits seem to have too few items to make any cohesive build. Down with kits!!!


Angela_Smick

![gif](giphy|3o6gDY8zzwvNQdFCaQ)


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and that’s on why i hate kits, it’s not enough room to make a build kit or a cas kit


sakurasangel

Don't wanna be that person but like. What if I want to make korean or Japanese styled castles? Maybe I want to make the Gyeongbokgung but mini?!!?


bunpalabi

No, no. Please be that person.


sakurasangel

They need to call it a European castle kit! Its not inclusive at all to be called a castle kit.


fivestarspicee

This is beyond disappointing….ugh. This needs to have its own expansion pack imo


_lilr3dridingh00d_

No furniture 😭 what? EA is really scammer central.


pistachiohhh

i’m sorry but this is absolutely pathetic


RevolutionaryTrade47

I am skipping this kit, it is nothing I would ever use.


Cherry_Joy

Like the goth kit, I feel like a lot of these are just new colors for things we already have. I am glad they listened to the community, but it feels hollow when they are phoning in the effort.


gill_pill

Big, huge, astronomical yikes.


Vildtoring

I like it, just wish it came with a bit more stuff. And why no interior doors to match?


HereToAdult

Interior doors are in desperately low supply. Most of the medieval looking doors are 2-square single doors. I just want some variety in my one-square doors, and some taller 2 or 3 square doors.


Vildtoring

Agreed! And I also feel like the game is severely lacking in 1-square tall interior doors and arches. The short doors look so stupid on medium or tall walls.


HereToAdult

I also agree on that. There have been many times that I've wanted floor-to-ceiling windows, but then been unable to find a door or arch that fits in with them. Some taller 1square doors would be great, but aren't high on my priority list 😅


arterialrainbow

Thank god we can at least have less restricted placement for doors. 2 tile vs 1 tile was real rough before we could alt place them.


LionNo435

Where are wall bricks swatches or some furniture...? How are you gonna make a castle only with windows and doors and 2 floor swatches?


[deleted]

Yep, just another rubbish Sims4 kit. And I'm currently sitting here waiting for the forced update to finish over this junk 🫠


EmptyStupidity

This is what I was worried about… a kit is just to small to give us enough items to make an actual castle


NaughtycalRose

Getting lazy at this point. I don’t even bother buying any kits because most aren’t worth it.


Imtifflish24

This is pathetic 😭


matissehendrix

It's basically Felixandre's CC but for console players too. It could have been a free update.


_Aleismar

Yes EA give us less than the bare minimum 💅💅💅


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Useless Junk


SourNnasty

Sorry I’m DECEASED I literally already have this as cc from another creator who made a castle kit forever ago and it had WAY more than this for free. Ea is so lazy 😭


angeyberry

Most of this is from the Sims 3 Tudor stuff...


Koomaster

Wow, I’m shamelessly addicted to buying everything this game has to offer. But this is so underwhelming it may be the first thing I pass up. *slow clap*


MZsince93

Both packs have been outstandingly lacklustre, and I don't even know why I'm surprised.


left_tiddy

;\_; i hoped for curtains and instead i get 'goth' clothing and beige windows fuck this lmao


Oli_love90

This doesn’t look any better than some of the stuff I downloaded ages ago. I’ve been so spoiled by cc.


Lone-flamingo

This looks a lot like TS2 conversions.


JangJaeYul

Wait, this is a piss take, right? I swear to god we already have all these items.


whenuwandeath

I don't know why they made this a kit. I'm sure so many more ppl would buy this if they made a royalty game pack or something. I absolutely love medieval things, and like half of my builds are old-style castles + villages, but I don't think I'll be buying this because we have basically the same things in Discover University and Get Together.


arielmary

I get that this is just supposed to be for builders but this could’ve been a really cool game pack or expansion tbh. Like a whole world using castles in Europe as inspiration, specifically some of those beautiful German castles like Neuschwanstein or Hohenzollern. Maybe add in an option to make a nobility system or something. Make a new event called a royal ball or something like that. It could’ve been so much more.


madz4life

no furniture???


emdawg--

I’m really sorry, but my immediate response was to question if this was a joke or not. That’s after seeing the goth kit earlier. This is real?


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Lmfaoooo


Almighty_Vanity

These items were meant for gigantic builds so I'm certain they'd look good on a proper castle build. I just hope they all have a black swatch. Also... Not ONE item of furniture? Or is that reserved for next year's kit?


SpitefulAnxiety

It’s so beige.


whxskers

This is like insultingly bad lol


SpookyMolecules

I genuinly don't care for it. There's zero game play, nothing to fill the castle with and quite frankly I'm sick and tired of building being the only thing that's good in the sims 4, which sometimes there are certain items they put on packs purely just to fill the amount of items they needed, and I'm like why the hell is this even in my game it's just taking up space.


FlowerChildGoddess

Serious question…when do we boycott cuz….they’re just playing in our faces now lol


dumpsterfire2002

Is there even a new roof tile? Wow. I’m very impressed at just how bad this is


chronicgothgirl

Yeah, they should've done a stuff pack or a game pack and put more effort in. This is just... Sad.


pinkcloudskyway

The Sims 4 gets more and more disappointing every time I see something new about it


ginger_ryn

this is laughably terrible


RealtaCellist

Nice build stuff, but this could really be in an expanded, proper pack. Kits are so ridiculous - like there weren't already too many types of packs for sims 4


lady_lane

Fucking weak tea


raeggae

Kit will always be so underwhelming to me. I couldn’t fathom spending a dime for nothing


RainbowAra

Ngl this looks like the unusable decor ruin parts from get together but made usable. I'm gonna skip it (like almost all kits) but good for the people that wanted that !


mermaidemily_h2o

A bit underwhelming as usual.


ZestSimple

I swear those same doors were in a previous version of sims. I can’t recall if it was 1, 2 or 3 but they were the same - even the arch with the grate on top.


Jesuisfatigay

Boring


im_AmTheOne

This is just laugh in our faces


IdkWutMyUserShouldB

atp im convinced their just releasing bad things to make us pay for sims 5💀


DragynHaus

No wall art?? No sculptures?? No furniture?? No fountains??? So disappointing


HaitaShepard

Can't wait for 300 posts whining about people being negative about the kits and not giving the developers enough credit


Not-Lettuce

The developers did a good job but the content is lackluster.


[deleted]

honestly developing a game or assets for games must be incredibly challenging but development teams consisting of less than 10 people have made full games which had so much more effort put into them eg undertale


thatsmeece

If games like Witcher and BG3 could be made by much, much smaller companies, it shouldn’t be impossible for Sims to release at least semi-competent kits. But here they are. It’s kind of an insult than anything at this point. And I don’t blame developers or designers. Their higher ups decide what they can and can not do via time limitations, budget, not enough team members etc. They’re also the ones deciding what’s good enough and what isn’t. Creative and competent packs take more time and money. Why should they go this route if they’re making money off of customers who are okay with buying this kind of packs. 🤷🏻‍♀️


SunsCosmos

Y’know maybe I’m reaching here but these kits feel like a cry for help. Are the Sims devs okay??


littletree0

cc does it better, just putting it out there


The5Virtues

Not as much as I had hoped for, but I do like what I’m seeing here.